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U.S. WiFi vs. UK 3G Comparison

So I said I’d post the differences between the U.S. Wi-Fi 32GB (7510) I got in August and the UK 3G 32GB (7500) I got last week. The U.S. G-Tab is running KME and the UK KG1.
Display
The 7500 was built in October and definitely has a different display than the 7510. When you look at it sideways you can see a very subtle texture under the glass. When you press the 7510’s display it makes an oil slick for a few seconds before returning to normal. That doesn’t happen with the 7500’s display. The contrast is better on the 7500 and the colors are more natural. It’s especially noticeable at higher brightness. I like the 7500’s display a lot better. I’ve attached some pics for comparison but the difference is more noticeable in person.
Hardware
The 7500’s back is matte black while the 7510’s is metallic grey faux-steel. The black looks more expensive and doesn’t show finger prints as badly. They also changed the connector port. The 7510 has two small steel circles on each side of the port and the 7500 doesn’t. I’ve attached pics.
Software
The only real difference is Polaris Office is substituted for QuickOffice. I have Polaris on my SGS2 and the other office suites are better. I have a Documents to Go license so I’m using that. The messaging app is a tablet version of the one on the SGS2. A lot of the Google apps like Reader and Video aren’t pre-loaded and you can’t use Media Hub on a device with a CSC outside the U.S. I was hoping it would have AllShare but it doesn’t. Other than that, they’re the same.
Performance
KG1 is a lot smoother than KME. There’s the occasional stutter but it’s noticeably more fluid when scrolling and in transitions. Wi-Fi is about 20% faster side-by-side using the same router. I don’t know if it’s KG1 or a different radio that combines Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and 3G. I can connect my SGS2 via Bluetooth on the 7500 whereas I couldn’t on the 7510. I’m in an area that AT&T hasn’t upgraded and I get 3MB+ down consistently. I was in TX over the weekend and easily got 8MB down there. I leave 3G on all the time and it’s a negligible hit to battery life. Unlimited data and messaging is $20 a month.
On the subject of performance, I made a quick video of navigating around the screens, opening apps, and playing a YouTube HD video. There have been a lot of complaints about performance and I’d be interested to see if everyone else’s G-Tab performs like mine. Like I said, I only get the occasional stutter or lag so overall I’m satisfied with the performance.
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YouTube Performance Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdcZWpxlkKI

From your photos there is nothing I could judge regarding the screen or colors. Basically they are totally crappy for this purpose.

Thanks for the comparison. But one thing to mention my uk 3g galaxy tab comes with polaris office not quick office. And is the wifi version back a real metal or a coated plastic
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hoss_n2 said:
Thanks for the comparison. But one thing to mention my uk 3g galaxy tab comes with polaris office not quick office. And is the wifi version back a real metal or a coated plastic
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The U.S. Tabs get QuickOffice vs. Polaris. The back of the U.S. Tab is metallic grey plastic with a graining pressed in to it. It looks better from a distance than up close.

Xiaomi MI-2

http://asia.cnet.com/xiaomi-mi2-quad-core-android-smartphone-announced-62218345.htm
http://miuiandroid.com/community/threads/first-photos-of-the-xiaomi-mi-2.17591/
I think I just found my new phone, upgrading from SGS2. The specs blow away any phone right now.
* Qualcomm 8064 CPU (Quadcore)
* 2GB RAM
* 16GB ROM
* Graphics processing comparable to the XBOX 360 (Adreno 320 graphics chip)
* 2000 mAh 3000 mAh battery upgrades
* 4.3 inches high PPI retina screen, 1280x720 resolution. The touch screen to do (the OGS / TOL), the single glass fit technology, Ultra Narrow design to protect the glass.
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Not sure if it has expandable storage. But by currency conversion it works out: $315/£200!!
Should be released in October. Hope it works in UK

Nice phone! If only we could get it for under $400 shipped in USA. Hopefully works for T-Mobile....

even anand is blown away
Xiaomi Mi-2 - the worlds fastest smartphone with xbox 360 graphics
Impressive specs
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...nnounces-miui-phone-mitwo-with-apq8064-inside
http://www.xiaomi.com/mi2
90fps

I wonder if this will have solid rom AOSP/ROM support... you might imagine so considering it's running MIUI out of the box.
Also, battery life.

Will it have an english MIUI available though?

Great specs, especially love the option for 3000mAh albeit with an extra 2mm thickness. But no mention of an SD card slot?? 16GB inside is fine but not enough for me on the whole.

I want one so bad! Hopefully we can manage to get them here in the US for under $400... It's beautiful.

MicShadow said:
Will it have an english MIUI available though?
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Yes it will.
Just wondering if it will work in the UK

Based on what I've read, don't expect to get your hands on it until the specs are no longer a wow factor.
Apparently this company has some very interesting marketing strategies, the price is apparently more so an initial head turner and far from permanent. Supply is also iffy.
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Only missing feature is NFC, but hard to complain about at that price with those specs. Even if it comes in at $450 or so in the end that's around the Xperia P range so not out of sorts. We'll see if they release the goodies for the devs to tinker with.

Has this gone on sale in China? Maybe one of the Chinese users could clear our queries with regards to this phone. I'm chiefly concerned about the following things:
1. English support (should mostly have)
2. AOSP support (almost certainly might have)
3. Build quality and spares!!
Damn it I live in India and we are China's neighbours. Start selling you phones here guys!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30418051#post30418051

lnfound said:
Based on what I've read, don't expect to get your hands on it until the specs are no longer a wow factor.
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Disagree, for that price it will be a wow factor at that time of release and a few months after release

you can get it here & also post & ask some questions, looks like a reliable dealer
http://www.androidforcheap.com/xiao...creen-wifi-gps-android-40-os-phone-p-464.html
I'm giving this a try :silly:
http://www.androidforcheap.com/note...3-os-wcdma-3g-gps-wifi-smart-phone-p-310.html
or this
http://www.androidforcheap.com/i930...-pixel-camera-micro-sim-card-phone-p-453.html
amazing what they can produce here :cyclops:

don't expect aosp support as they will probably never release the kernel source. the first one was okay... many of my friends have them but.although they get updates every week they still seem to be only about 75 stable.. the new one has me interested from a cheap hardware angle but I like beingable to choose my own Rom

@joshofbass
what do you mean by "they still seem to be only about 75 stable"?
reboots? freeze? I need a dual sim so that i don't have to lug around 3 phones

NFC??
Does anyone know if the MI-2 supports NFC technology?
I have seen many websites which write the specs and other useful information,but none is mentioning whether or not it has a nfc chip.

NFC is not listed in the specs on the official homepage. Neither is microsd support, btw ...

the best phone!

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you can get it here & also post & ask some questions, looks like a reliable dealer
http://www.androidforcheap.com/xiao...creen-wifi-gps-android-40-os-phone-p-464.html
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Already sold out

Battery is for being "capable".

Why people buy phones with disgustingly crap batteries? Because manufacturers make them and people just accept it?
I am sick of hearing about phones weights differences in few grams, (our phone is thinner by 1 mm!!! -how sad) , about screens quality, about processors speeds, etc, and on.. Just because this is where all attention is?
What is use of it all if then users have to carry chargers wherever they go, they have to disable network modes, tweak performance, buy and run monitoring softwear, a lots of hassle JUST BECAUSE those manufacturers are jerks! Like there is problem to give proper large battery option to chose and we will see how market reacts?
I got phone from China with larger battery than you can get on any European market and I am finally happy, I don't worry about anything anymore.
On purpose I set everything to look nice, bright, run fast and never worry about any tweaks unless I suspect unhappiness from performance being somehow compromised, I do play games, I do use internet, I do stream and do other things without fear of not having more power for a call I may need to make. At end of day I have still 50% which will last next day easily.
BATTERY IS CRUCIAL PART OF THE PHONE. MUST NOT BE REDUCED IN PERFORMANCE IN ANY WAY (reducing size).
This is why we have smartphones to do many things quickly at any time instead switch all those cool features off, like everyday life was emergency situation for saving battery -ON DAILY BASIS?
P.S. some brands thinks I will carry second battery with me like I have a pocket and good will to open my phone and swap batteries??? really??? or taking ugly external USB-battery, swinging on cable while I am using my phone or looking ugly like second half of nadset to damage my USB socket with a time and have a patience to keep it charged -like a second device?
How ridiculous...

Battery performance actually did advance with processing technology over the years. It's not just sheer capacity that tripled, but efficiency became better. A top-end phone of today easily has 10 times more performance than a smartphone of 4 years back with so much bigger and higher-res screen not to mention extra antennas and extra ongoing processes, yet when HW/SW is properly balanced, it can last the same full day. Samsung and HTC are doing it right lately while Apple is particularly power-efficient, to expect anything more there has to be a battery tech revolution.
Much bigger manufacturer BS is storage capacity. A 64GB module hardly costs more than $20 for them and all gadgets should start with that going up to 256GB, but at least HTC is skipping the 16GB variant and you get a healthy space for starting price. You see they can't really put significantly bigger battery in a phone where they could put more storage in it, they just don't want to.

Are you specifically moaning about the HTC one or just phones in general? The one, in reviews, has been shown to perform admirably.

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Along with battery, everything moved on and needs more resources.
Still, batteries could give us more freedom, especially now, when 4G is in use.
Their size should not be reduced.

No.

mass.w said:
Along with battery, everything moved on and needs more resources.
Still, batteries could give us more freedom, especially now, when 4G is in use.
Their size should not be reduced.
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hey - in all seriousness, i found what you need.
phone

it is general experience of few handset of different brands I had within last few years

you may believe I need your response more?

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it is general experience of few handset of different brands I had within last few years
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so why are you posting it in the HTC ONE FORUM
a phone that is not released, not thoroughly reviewed and YOU DO NOT OWN

by mistake, sorry.
however your replies were not even funny.
i suppose sure htc is not a leader regarding battery-exeperience

OnePlus One Review: 5 months later

I know there has been a lot of these but maybe I can help with someone's decision, so here we go.
The OPO has served me great for the past couple months and it's almost a perfect phone. :fingers-crossed:
Background:
One of the things I liked most about this phone was the unboxing experience. It was just simply amazing, amazing quality. As soon as I unboxed it, I installed adb drivers and unlocked the bootloader. I flashed twrp and rooted. Then I installed some of my favorite root apps such as greenify, AdBlockPlus, xposed framework (Boot-manager, App Settings, YouTube AdAway etc.), Avast (Firewall Features), Orbot (For using the TOR network), and SuperSU, and ADBD Insecure. I also made a custom boot animation and changed it, as well as the boot logo. I made a few changes to the file system and installed a few binaries.
My device has about 6 pages of apps from over the months. I use a lot of them and some of them I just have because "it might be helpful". One more thing to mention, I also installed the Amazon App store so I can get some apps from there. Now lets talk about themes: I have about 6 different themes each applied to a certain part of the ui and honestly it looks amazing. I'm spending too much time at the intro so lets cut to the chase...
Performance:
The snapdragon 801 makes everything liquid smooth and I have had no issues with performance what so ever. One thing I should mention is that my AnTuTu benchmark score dropped from when I first got it to now, this was expected as I am running a couple heavy apps in the background (ex. Xposed, Avast, Greenify, 5 messaging apps, Sync, Smart news etc.). The performance dropped a little over the months but the UI is still liquid smooth.
Screenshots:
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The battery performance is very, very good and I have had no issues with it. I usually get about 2-3 days on a single charge with medium to heavy use. That being said, I turn off my phone at night... which probably has a major impact on screen-on time. Charging takes about 1-2 hours for me using the stock cable and power brick which is pretty average for any smartphone. The device battery is good and it is enough to power the beast inside.
Display and Touch:
The OPO display is good but nowhere as amazing as OLED. The 401 PPI makes everything look really sharp and I have had no issues with clarity. Also to mention, my device does not have the yellow tint problem although the colors look a bit warm. This is expected of course as it is an IPS LCD screen. The viewing angles are amazing and the ability to change between software and hardware keys is great. The touch is probably one of the most disappointing parts of this phone. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. The screen is over sensitive and it leaves ghost touches behind making it very hard to type fast. But the auto-correct works like a charm and balances out the effects. Hopefully in CM12 this will be improved.
Software:
Just the plain ol' cyanogenmod experience which is one of the main reasons I bought this phone. I'm just hoping I can get the CM12 ota before the partnership completely fades away. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Camera:
It sucks. Just really really bad. Now that said, I believe it is a software fault rather than a hardware one. The Color OS camera app is much much better and that might solve the issues for some of you. Granted I have been able to get some amazing shots when I applied medium-heavy post processing they turned out just like one from a DSLR. (Will be uploading examples soon)
Design:
The design is nice especially the sandstone textured back, It provides a lot of grip as well as "looks". The metal ring around the display gives it a more premium feel, but I would not have minded paying more for an all metal phone. The bamboo back cover looks promising and I am looking into getting one.
Will be adding more in the near future... Ran out of ideas

I have been using it for a month now. Its an amazing phone considering the price. No lags or anything. Additionally the camera is quite good and very fast. The build quality is also very good. One thing I particularly like - how short the charging time is (less than 2 hours from empty to full).
The only thing that I am worried about the future of official software support. I certainly hope that the OxygenOS from OnePlus will be a clean iteration (like AOSP), not something like FlymeOS or MIUI; and that OnePlus will continue to provide essential updates till the end of 2015 (assuming that CM will stop supporting it after CM12s).

I agree!

i just ordered one 64gb for my wife, her Galaxy S2 just died (almost died, i must find her efs backup, then repair it), can't wait to receive and play with it
i hope the +1 will be too big for her little hands, so i can give her my Nexus 5
many thanks for the review

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto G7 Power, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto G7 Power is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I've only had my G7 Power for a couple of days now but I'm pretty happy with it so far. I'm coming from a Note 4 -> OnePlus 5 ->Note 4 (OP5 screen died). The lack of screen resolution hasn't bothered me much yet. I'm really a fan of the screen size, though. I miss the larger phablet form factor. I really needed the longer battery life because of my job(s). I bought a thick, tough-ish case for it already.
The only other phone that I've been considering since my OP5 died is whatever they come out with for the OP7 since I really like the idea of the under-screen fingerprint sensor since there are very few front-facing sensors these days. I don't really dig the location of the sensor on this phone. But overall, this is a great phone for what would probably be half the cost of what the OP7 will most likely cost.
I enjoy having the latest Android version on it. The fluidity from having a near stock Android experience is unparalleled.
The only feature that it's really missing is the NFC sensor. But I'm not majorly bothered by it because I almost never used Android Pay.
Given how budget friendly this phone is but having some common modern smartphone features, I rate it 7.5/10. It's not for everybody, though. It's really only for people that value battery life over most other phone features

I'm coming from an LG V30. I bought the G7 Power for two reasons:. Superior battery and LTE band 71.
I am pleasantly surprised how nice the display is. Reading reviews you'd think it has a blurry and grainy screen. Honestly though, the screen is perfectly fine. Brightness is phenomenal and clarity is solid.
Battery life is the best you will find and having dual SIM capability and and an sdcard compensates for only 32GB of internal storage.
The size and shape of the phone makes for easy usage and the phone never seems excessively large.
The OS runs smoothly, no stuttering or lag is noticeable.
It's just a really solid phone, that combined with it's price makes it an unbelievable bargain.
The only people that should not consider this phone are hardcore gamers.
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I'm coming from an LG V30. I bought the G7 Power for two reasons:. Superior battery and LTE band 71.
I am pleasantly surprised how nice the display is. Reading reviews you'd think it has a blurry and grainy screen. Honestly though, the screen is perfectly fine. Brightness is phenomenal and clarity is solid.
Battery life is the best you will find and having dual SIM capability and and an sdcard compensates for only 32GB of internal storage.
The size and shape of the phone makes for easy usage and the phone never seems excessively large.
The OS runs smoothly, no stuttering or lag is noticeable.
It's just a really solid phone, that combined with it's price makes it an unbelievable bargain.
The only people that should not consider this phone are hardcore gamers.
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How's the camera? I have a Moto E5 Plus, considering switching to Metro for the G7 Power. Only thing I really don't like about my E5 Plus is the camera and it seems like it's the same one in the G7 Power. It's not terrible, you just have to have a ton of light and be close up to something.

Three pics, three separate camera apps:
GC - GCamera
SC - Stock Camera
OC - Open Camera
Overcast skies, no direct sun, early am.
I'd break it down better, but I'm turkey hunting right now.
GCamera
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