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[Q] Buying a Samsung Galaxy S 4 Duos (i9502) from China to be used in Europe

I would really love getting the dual SIM version of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 as it would allow me to carry one less phone with me. But in the end I'm not sure if the pros outweight the cons.
Pros:
- Able to use two SIMs in the same phone
- Exynos 5 Octa, which will see very limited availability in Europe
Cons:
- China Unicom specific version
- No international warranty outside of China
- UI may not be available in English?
- Will be stuck with the stock Chinese firmware as the ROMs for i9500 / i9505 will not work on this
Is anyone else considering buying an i9502 to be used outside of China?

liviuv said:
I would really love getting the dual SIM version of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 as it would allow me to carry one less phone with me. But in the end I'm not sure if the pros outweight the cons.
Pros:
- Able to use two SIMs in the same phone
- Exynos 5 Octa, which will see very limited availability in Europe
Cons:
- China Unicom specific version
- No international warranty outside of China
- UI may not be available in English?
- Will be stuck with the stock Chinese firmware as the ROMs for i9500 / i9505 will not work on this
Is anyone else considering buying an i9502 to be used outside of China?
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I would like to have i9502 and I have the same questions and worrying about the warranty outside of China. I'm gonna wait till it is available on eBay. I hope that some companies could give at least 12 months international warranty for this device.

I am thinking of buying one for use world wide. I assume no one will be developing a custom ROM for this version.
Is there a way to install the Play Store and Gapps?

As the S4 should be highly popular, we might see more developing for the exynos chipset. Once they come out with the aosp base for it, developing for the variants should be easier.
Since i9502 is China based, we should see a MIUI Rom for it soon
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I thought samsung released their official rom for this phone? Doesn't it therefore mean that we can root this without any bugs? I remember the Note 2 dual sim custom rom had bugs on the map and caller id.
Can someone verify that once using the official rom, play store and Google apps will be available?

http://www.hotfile.com/dl/204614115/9393a40/I9502ZNUAMDG_I9502CHUAMDG_CHU.zip.html
Looks like there is one out there

paulsalem said:
I am thinking of buying one for use world wide. I assume no one will be developing a custom ROM for this version.
Is there a way to install the Play Store and Gapps?
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The only way to install Play Store and Google apps is to root the phone. Unfortunately, there's no available rooting method yet for Galaxy I9502. But I'm hopeful that it will be available in the future. Like the Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7102 Dual Sim variant, a working rooting procedure was eventually made available.
I have ordered my Galaxy I9502 and can't wait to get my hands on it.

[email protected] said:
I have ordered my Galaxy I9502 and can't wait to get my hands on it.
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Where did you order it from?

liviuv said:
Where did you order it from?
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China. ..
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda premium

nniicckkss said:
China. ..
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I meant to ask from which website you've ordered it. Thanks in advance!

liviuv said:
Where did you order it from?
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I ordered from taobao.com thru an agent in my country. Just need to choose a trustworthy seller. Or you can order from etotalk.com but the price is a little higher and payment method is not safe.
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nniicckkss said:
China. ..
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Unfortunately that's the only place to get it from right now. But hey, it's legit and dual sim. I'm happy

[email protected] said:
Unfortunately that's the only place to get it from right now. But hey, it's legit and dual sim. I'm happy
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So you're gonna live with the fact that you don't have Play Store? Or do you have a work around?

merkava74 said:
So you're gonna live with the fact that you don't have Play Store? Or do you have a work around?
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No, I'm optimistic a rooting tool will be available once this phone is released.

[email protected] said:
I ordered from taobao.com thru an agent in my country. Just need to choose a trustworthy seller. Or you can order from etotalk.com but the price is a little higher and payment method is not safe.
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Unfortunately that's the only place to get it from right now. But hey, it's legit and dual sim. I'm happy
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hey there. would u mind saying, where do u live?! are u sure that china version is gonna work in your country?
I live in europe and really curious if i can use it here...

asheg said:
hey there. would u mind saying, where do u live?! are u sure that china version is gonna work in your country?
I live in europe and really curious if i can use it here...
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Based on offical specs, I'm very sure an unlocked SGS4 I9502 will work in my country and Europe too.
Here's why:
SGS4 I9502 Supported Network Frequency:
WCDMA 850/900/1,900/2100MHz
GSM 850/900/1,800/1900MHz
GSM Coverage:
GSM 900 / GSM 1800 MHz are used in most parts of the world: Europe, Asia, Australia, Middle East, Africa.
Reference: www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
3G Coverage:
In general, the various UMTS bands are deployed as follows:
Band I (W-CDMA 2100) in Europe, India, Africa, Israel (Cellcom, Orange, Pelephone[4]) Asia, Australia (metropolitan Optus and Vodafone), New Zealand (ITU Region 1, 2degrees Vodafone NZ), Thailand (TOT (Thailand)), and Brazil (part of ITU Region 2)
Band II (W-CDMA 1900) in North America and South America (ITU Region 2).
Band IV (W-CDMA 1700 or Advanced Wireless Services) in the United States (T-Mobile USA), Canada (WIND Mobile, Mobilicity, SaskTel, Vidéotron) and Chile (VTR Movil, Nextel Chile)
Band V (W-CDMA 850) in Australia (Telstra NextG, Vodafone), Hong Kong (SmarTone), Thailand (True move and DTAC), New Zealand (XT Mobile Network), Brazil, Canada, the USA, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Dominican Republic (Claro),Venezuela, other parts of South America, Israel (Pelephone,[4] Cellcom[5]), parts of Asia (ITU Region 2 and ITU Region 3), Poland (Sferia)
Band VIII (W-CDMA 900) in Europe, Asia, Australia (Optus and Vodafone regional/country 3G networks), New Zealand (2degrees, Vodafone NZ), Thailand (Advanced Info Service), Dominican Republic (Orange Dominicana), Venezuela (Digitel GSM), Poland (Play and Aero2 HSPA+ Internet only[6])
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands

I bought mine in China and used it with China Mobile and my US T-Mobile SIM cards installed at the same time. When I landed back on US soil, it automatically switched to use my T-Mobile SIM. I haven't had any problems so far.

Does that mean you have Google apps and play store?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2

liviuv said:
I would really love getting the dual SIM version of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 as it would allow me to carry one less phone with me. But in the end I'm not sure if the pros outweight the cons.
Pros:
- Able to use two SIMs in the same phone
- Exynos 5 Octa, which will see very limited availability in Europe
Cons:
- China Unicom specific version
- No international warranty outside of China
- UI may not be available in English?
- Will be stuck with the stock Chinese firmware as the ROMs for i9500 / i9505 will not work on this
Is anyone else considering buying an i9502 to be used outside of China?
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The UI is available in Chinese, Korean and English on the i9502.

Mindbeats said:
I haven't had any problems so far.
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Can I ask if you have Play Store working?

merkava74 said:
Can I ask if you have Play Store working?
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I'm working on that now. Stock there was go Gapps; you get the Chinese version of their app store 沃商店.

Pin Unlocked Code From Brazil

Last month I bougth one Galaxy S5 in San Francisco's BestBuy, I ask for the Unlocked version for Brazil and Ask for the seller this mobile work in Brazil ? The seller say: Yes.
When I arive in my country I tested my sim card and this SIM card doens't work.
I call for the Samsung in Brazil and the USA Samsung.
I Call for my carrier in Brazil(VIVO)
After I found my guide and discovered that it was a North Africa and Middle East Version.
The model is SM-G900H.
I don't know about the my mobile carrier.
I don't know what to do.
Thank you.

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fffft said:
Best Buy in San Francisco sold you a 900H phone? That is rather strange as there are no US carriers that use the 900H. I can only presume that they resold a used trade in phone that originated in some other country. You should look under the battery and confirm that you really have a 900H model. AFAIK, Brazil carriers use the 900M variant. Which means that if you really have a 900H it will probably have gaps in it's coverage with your carrier in Brazil.
Confirm that you really have a 900H model.
Ask your Carrier (Vivo) what frequency bands they use in their network
Go to the Samsung website and look up the specs for the 900H phone and see what bands the model supports.
If the phone is missing any Vivo bands, then you will be subject to more congestion and dropped calls than you would with the correct model. And if you are in a smaller town where less frequencies are in use, you may find no coverage at all.
As to the "pin lock", you didn't really describe what you mean.. but it's probably a SIM (carrier) or region lock, rather than lock screen pin. If so then you need to purchase an unlock code from a third party vendor on Ebay or other online site to unlock it for use with Vivo.
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This model is right, I checked in my phone. SM-900H. But the VIVO Can't help me. I don't know what I do can I buy one pin code on cellunlocker or another website ?

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fffft said:
You should first ask Vivo what frequency bands their system uses. If the 900H phone won't work well on the Vivo system, everything else is moot.
As to unlocking, you would have to get a SIM unlock code AKA IMEI unlock code (PIN) from Ebay or another online unlocking site. Not Vivo. Also consider if you want to make a claim against Best Buy or not? Do you want to try returning the phone because they sold you the wrong model or not?
Good luck.
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Vivo: GSM 850 MHz , Work ?

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fffft said:
A cursory Google search finds
You should confirm that information with Vivo. Then go to the Samsung web page and see if the 900H supports all of those Vivo frequencies or not.
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I found this on internet.
Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900H have Yes Card Slots,Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900H support all GSM Based network providers. Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900H mobile device support 2G Band Frequency at GSM 850,GSM 900,GSM 1800,GSM 1900 and Hight Speed 3G Network Band at HSDPA 850,HSDPA 900,HSDPA 1900,HSDPA 2100,Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900H also support LTE based 4G Networks Support at Frequency level LTE 2100,LTE 800,LTE 1800,LTE 2600,LTE 850,LTE 900,comes with network handling support with Network settings and work offline with flight Mode.
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fffft said:
VIVO (unverified)
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS 850/2100
LTE FDD B7
900H (unverified /unknown variant)
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS 850/1900/2100
LTE N/A
Did you actually talk to Vivo to confirm their information?
A full model number would clarify the latter i.e. what region your phone originates from may determine which bands are accessible.
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What should I ask for a VIVO ?

Leib said:
What should I ask for a VIVO ?
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Did you see any notice about 'region lock' on the box?

vndnguyen said:
Did you see any notice about 'region lock' on the box?
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I didn't see any notice in the box.
Can I buy one unlock code for my mobile ? Can you give me a reliable website ?

Leib said:
I didn't see any notice in the box.
Can I buy one unlock code for my mobile ? Can you give me a reliable website ?
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Sorry I don't know.
However you can try to get it for free, ask the OP in this thread for the details.

Today I recive this e-mail
Gabriel,
It seems you may still not be receiving our responses.
Often, the unlocked phones require a 5 minute phone call be made with a North American SIM card before they're fully functional throughout the world.
Is there someone in San Francisco you can send the phone to? They could then bring it in to us and we could attempt to unlock it for you. If we cannot, I will refund the item.
Thanks,
Dustin
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I need the North American SIM card for active my phone.
Can I buy Unlock code anyway ?

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Malaysian - Get Your Oneplus One

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*OnePlus One 4G LTE 16GB smartphone for RM1,059
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Please let one of the moderators know when this offer expires so that this thread can be closed.
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Is this the Global or Chinese version?

adzroc said:
Is this the Global or Chinese version?
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I think Global? It comes with CM11S based on their spec info.

yes it's a CM11S firmware not the ColourOS

It'll be the Chinese version but with CM11S flashed on it. You can only buy the international version directly from OnePlus.
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i think it's the china variant, even the unit i got was flashed with CM11s out of the box, same with some of my friends that have gotten the china variant

darren486 said:
i think it's the china variant, even the unit i got was flashed with CM11s out of the box, same with some of my friends that have gotten the china variant
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Coming from "somewhere in Malaysia" you might be the best info source.

Nburnes said:
Coming from "somewhere in Malaysia" you might be the best info source.
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LOL, as the china variant is compatible with all the telco in malaysia, and the OP doesn't directly ship here, i think 90% of the OPO sold here are the china variant.

Yup. Positive its a china version. Btw did anyone using the china ver manage to get lte in malaysia?

feeq13 said:
Yup. Positive its a china version. Btw did anyone using the china ver manage to get lte in malaysia?
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Unable using ALTEL provider,
unlocked baseband and add ALTEL APN but to no avail.
Sent from my One using Tapatalk

fredzen14 said:
Unable using ALTEL provider,
unlocked baseband and add ALTEL APN but to no avail.
Sent from my One using Tapatalk
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As read on lowyat.net forum, some guy claims that they could get working LTE on celcom and digi. I've tried on umobile at subang which has LTE coverage but still no luck. Tried with multiple radio. Still no luck

My LTE works fine on DiGI
have you replaced your sim card? to a LTE sim?

Great deal, but unfortunately shipping only on Malaysia no international shipping.

brought mine from DirectD SS15 (RM1318 64GB), the box already opened. Most likely it came with ColourOS and they flashed it with CM11S.

mine is china version and LTE was working fine with Maxis. Turn off anyway since 3G is enough for me so far.

LTE works,both on my maxis and my celcom. Try around other custom ROM. PA,Omni,.. Still get LTE..

All the OPO you can find in Malaysia are the Chinese variant. I can confirm that. The "open box" is because they open it and flashed CM11S onto it. However, good news for all Malaysians looking to buy the OPO is that all LTE bands currently available from the local Telcos are working, including the newer ones like DiGi, where the LTE band used is B7 (2600)

feeq13 said:
As read on lowyat.net forum, some guy claims that they could get working LTE on celcom and digi. I've tried on umobile at subang which has LTE coverage but still no luck. Tried with multiple radio. Still no luck
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you might wanna contact the service provider and change your sim, i have to change my digi sim as well before i can get LTE

[Q] International version 6P in USA

Can somebody plz tell me how to get hold of an International version of 6P in USA (specifically in Phoenix)..
Actually, will those versions available in USA

vikram66778 said:
Can somebody plz tell me how to get hold of an International version of 6P in USA (specifically in Phoenix)..
Actually, will those versions available in USA
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They are all the same version, if you are referring to the gold version there is no way maybe eBay but it will be very expensive, which in my opinion is stupid just for a color.

Even if you do obtain one somehow, warranty service might be extremely painful.

dislplin01 said:
They are all the same version, if you are referring to the gold version there is no way maybe eBay but it will be very expensive, which in my opinion is stupid just for a color.
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No, , Huawei has made a version for North America which support overall some less LTE bands and has some 1 or 2 specific LTE bands for USA carriers.. Whereas international version support all the available LTE bands so that you can use any sim...
sharpehenry said:
Even if you do obtain one somehow, warranty service might be extremely painful.
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I don't think that will be a problem for me... I never claimed a warranty for any of my devices till now :angel:

Carrier compatibility.

Hello! My question I've nexus 6p 32gb Unlocked purchased from New Jersey.. But I'll be using it in India. So will it be compatible with all the carriers present here?
Thanks!

Depends what kind of bands your carriers use in India

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Depends what kind of bands your carriers use in India
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Thanks for replying. ..Does the unlocked version contain both the American and Global bands? Coz I see there are few bands missing in American version which are there in global and vice versa.
Thanks!

No it does not, the American version is missing the global bands

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No it does not, the American version is missing the global bands
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Okk..thanks...Got my Jio sim...Signal looks solid...for the first few minutes... but then it started fluctuating very much .. maybe changing bands every now and then coz jio operates on 3 bands 3,5and40. But as 40 is not present in American model, it switches between band 3(1800) and 5(850)very frequently...I got to know this from an app... So should I lock the band on 3/5 any of them(from network signal guru app) ? Will it stop fluctuating then?
Thanks!

What's the name of the app you use?

Sab3elbromba said:
What's the name of the app you use?
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Jio NetVelocity.. though it will not show the frequency band in other carriers except jio...

This should cover it.
US Version
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/xwzHaD/google-nexus-6p-h1511/india
International Version
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/Xz8cjq/google-nexus-6p-h1512/india

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This should cover it.
US Version
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/xwzHaD/google-nexus-6p-h1511/india
International Version
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/Xz8cjq/google-nexus-6p-h1512/india
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Thanks... There are few issues I'm facing.... Got two more Sims voda and bsnl ... Voda gives no signal as soon as I insert it and bsnl is working well but most of the times I cannot place/get calls.... And according to that link these two are fully compatible with American model..:crying:
I've noticed in bsnl that as soon as I toggle the mobile data ON, then I can get/make calls but as soon as I put if Off, again problem starts.