We find each time more models on the market, since the manufacturers have as goal to cover every single segment on the market, no matter what your budget is...there is a smartphone for you.
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During these past summer months, two of the big Chinese manufacturers have introduced an update for two of their most popular models. We are talking about the Meizu m2 Note (end of June) and the Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 (August).
The truth is that the only point they probably share is a FullHD 5,5” screen and low-medium segment they are both addressed.
Lets see the specifications:
Prices: Meizu m2 Note -> From $139 with Flash sales
Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 -> From $169.99 with current promos
As you can see, with this update Xiaomi has make much more emphasis on the “power” than his competitor. In addition, the version I’m trying is the Prime (2,2Ghz and 32GB of RAM) so the difference seems even more evident.
Appearance
Looking at the design, first thing to mention is that m2 Note is made on a single piece, meaning mainly a more “solid” terminal, or at least feels more resistant on the hand. It is slightly shorter and narrower than the Redmi Note 2, although thicker. The Redmi Note 2 on its side, has rear cover and removable battery.
Anyway, both are quite similar on size and weight, but they are figures difficult to notice on a daily basis.
Looking at them from the front, both show at first the imposing 5,5” screen, even though they use different technologies for it (I’ll talk about it later). Above the screen, Meizu’s one shows the speaker and the secondary camera. Xiaomi model adds also a LED for notifications (Meizu model also has a LED but it’s not as useful or evident, and not as customizable as the Xiaomi LED). Both cameras have 5Mpx.
Below the screen, Meizu only has a physical central button, with 3 different functions depending if we touch, press or hold it. The Xiaomi has the 3 typical Android haptic buttons, although they work in a different way because they can be customized (that’s pretty cool) so we can decide what they’ll do when we press or hold each button.
For the rest, on the Meizu we have the buttons for volume and lock on the left side and the slot for SIM and microSD on the right side. The secondary microphone (for noise cancelation) is on the top side, together with the Jack 3.5 plug, so the micro USB plug and the main speaker are on the bottom side.
The Xiaomi is quite similar, but having all the buttons on the right side, not having anything on the left side and adding the infrared port on the top...the rest all the same.
When flipping it, the main camera (13Mpx) and the flash, which is dual LED on the Meizu and single LED on the Xiaomi. The camera is completely flat for the Meizu and protrudes slightly on the Xiaomi. This last also includes the main speaker on this rear side. Both have the logo on the bottom.
The perception of the finishing is high quality for the two models, and with both I had the impression of sliding from my hand at the beginning. However, once you get used to their shape, size and weight... they fit very comfortable on the hand.
Screen
The 5,5” screens on these models deliver FullHD resolution and excel 400ppi of density with a incredibly good quality of image. The only one difference is then, that Meizu chose IZGO technology and Xiaomi opted for the commonly used IPS LCD panel.
After using both daily, my impression is that Meizu screen offers better quality and dims more, which is very nice for reading during the night for example. Said that, both screens have a very good quality and have the option to adjust the color temperature.
There are some complaints about IZGO screens showing yellowish when it should be white, but I haven't noticed that effect at all.
Use and multimedia
Both models come with Android Lollipop 5, nonetheless each one has a very different and complete customization layer.MIUI is much more known than FlymeOS, although the people from Meizu is doing a great job with continuous improvements on the ROM. The goal surely is to make it each time more popular and compatible with more models, something that has worked very well in the favour of MIUI in the past years.
An important part of this customizations is the way we use the buttons and interact by using gestures.
Since I'm now comparing those two smartphones, I'm not going deeper on the ROMs (MIUI and FlymeOS) used, since it would make an endless review.
What I must say is that both will require a (small) adaptation time even for those coming from Android. In my case it was easier and faster with FlymeOS than with MIUI. Maybe also because MIUI has even more personalization options.
Something that I dislike from both is the number of things (apps, screens, messages) in Chinese, it's not excessive, but they simply appear sometimes and you don't have any other option. It's easier to avoid them in Meizu, since in Xiaomi their AppStore cannot be entirely disabled, and will continue suggesting you updates, which in some cases will just change the language of your apps... to Chinese.
Something good from MIUI (Xiaomi) on this point is that the account creation can be made in English (or other languages) and then it's later integrated with many other apps like their cloud app (called MiCloud... does it remember you something?) coming with 5GB for free and working pretty well for pictures, contacts, messages and some more things which look very similar to Apple iCloud.
As an extra in this section, Xiaomi Redmi Note 2, features an infrared port, and Xiaomi's MiHome app detects it automatically and helps quite good to control different devices at home (TVs, air conditioned, satellites,…). It could seem some silly thing, but it works pretty well.
This Redmi Note 2 also includes radio (digital and FM options), which is something I missed a lot on the Meizu, it works well, with good sound quality.
Regarding the proprietary apps, each one has some strengths and weaknesses. FOr example Meixu's weather app doesn't work for cities outside China, while you can select any city with Xiaomi one. The music app for both allow to browse their extensive catalogue ready to download, but for Xiaomi it's quite complicated to find international (non asiatic) artists. On its side, Meizu's app works very well, it's completely translated and have lots of international artists.
We will find a voice assistant in both smartphones, and both very similar to Apple's Siri, but in Chinese, so in any case it's really useful or something to highlight. The day any of them translates it to make it available internationally (English at least) it will be a good point I guess.
Camera
Here the competition becomes even more interesting (if possible). The pictures I've taken with both smartphones show very good quality, they focus very fast and you can do burst shoot, which is something I cannot say about most of smartphones (not talking about first brands).
So this part is surprisingly satisfying for both competitors.
With the Redmi Note 2, I was surprised by the face detection on the selfies, which in addition is capable of identifying sex and age very accurately :-O
With the main camera, the results are very good even with low light where the flash works very precisely.
Talking about the Meizu m2 Note... I sincerely have the impression that it can compete hand to hand with my iPhone 5 and recording video (1080 @ 30fps) can probably beat him.
Some samples taken with each one, always first the Meizu then the Xiaomi (If you want to see real size pics, I could just upload them to my spanish blog -> http://dabarsocialmarketing.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/meizu-m2-note-vs-xiaomi-redmi-note-2.html):
Some samples of video
Meizu -> https://youtu.be/Epl1fUwMrjQ
Xiaomi -> https://youtu.be/ZePaimXFL3U
Battery
Not much to say in here. The manufacturers have bet for a size that covers perfectly the expectations, meaning around 3000mAh and 1 day of standard use.
We can find tools for managing the energy in both cases allowing us to choose between power, balance or power saving modes. We can even select if the power saving mode should be automatically enabled when reaching a percentage.
We can say that the Meizu m2 Note, having a less powerful processor and managing better the screen bright, wins by little this battle.
Conclusions
If I had to choose which one to keep, it would really be a hard decission.
A priori, the Redmi Note 2 is more powerful comes with some very interesting and useful extras (radio, infrared,…), however the user experience is more satisfying with the m2 Note and I like more the camera.
A table with pros and cons of each one would be like that:
As you can see, I find some more advantages on the Meizu, despite having less power. Specially strong in the camera, which is one of today's main uses for our smartphones.
In the present case, in addition, I'm using the Xiaomi's Prime version meaning an internal storage of 32GB and 2,2Ghz CPU's speed.
Personally, the FM radio is a very strong point, since I missed it a lot on the Meizu and one of the downside of iPhones for example, since you need data to listen to radio.
FlymeOS use is a little bit more agreeable, although you also get used to MIUI in some days.
For the power and the extras, I choose the Xiaomi as winner on today's competition.
Nevetheless, if you're not planning to play a lot of games, and so you don't require as much power, and you count on using one SIM and a microSD card, I recommend you the Meizu.
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Agreed my wife has the redmi note and I had the m2 note, I personally preferred the meizu,battery life doubled my wife's redmi issue,she's currently struggling to get over two hours sot, I'm pretty sure this is a os problem
sutty86 said:
Agreed my wife has the redmi note and I had the m2 note, I personally preferred the meizu,battery life doubled my wife's redmi issue,she's currently struggling to get over two hours sot, I'm pretty sure this is a os problem
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Whoa, what? I'll hit 5 hours of SoT with 28 hour up-time now. Currently on 14%. And that's with 2 SIM cards active.
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what miui are you running? thanks
sunbriel said:
Whoa, what? I'll hit 5 hours of SoT with 28 hour up-time now. Currently on 14%. And that's with 2 SIM cards active.
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Which miui version installed? I run the latest (.24) and my SoT is max 3h00'-3h15" with 45% screen brightness and 3G data connection
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what miui are you running? thanks
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Which miui version installed? I run the latest (.24) and my SoT is max 3h00'-3h15" with 45% screen brightness and 3G data connection
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Xiaomi.eu dev 5.9.24. With brightness set to 25-45%, WiFi on and connected during the day and from 2AM-7AM WiFi off with 2G/3G on.
Great post!
So, the perfect phone would be the combination of these two
Maby I'll wait for a month or two.
I do want to correct the OP. M2 Note does have a LED for notifications. I didn't read the rest, but looking on the table, your pros and cons are somewhat subjective and depend on which version of OS you're running. For example, the Chinese bloat on RN2 can be easily dealt with and as far as I know, when Xiaomi releases RN2 globally, the ROM will be clean.
Other corrections: Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 supports 1080 video recording from front facing camera. It also supports touch-to-focus during video recording (back camera) but you must enable it from settings
So tables are not correct
sunbriel said:
I do want to correct the OP. M2 Note does have a LED for notifications. I didn't read the rest, but looking on the table, your pros and cons are somewhat subjective and depend on which version of OS you're running. For example, the Chinese bloat on RN2 can be easily dealt with and as far as I know, when Xiaomi releases RN2 globally, the ROM will be clean.
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Yeah, Meizu has the LED, but only in white color. So You cant set different colors for few apps.
And Xiaomi with MIUI has a lot of updates and fixes. Meizu not .. Thats why i will buy Xiaomi.
xiaomi redmi note 2 and meizu m2 note are really the best rivals, but i like xiaomi redmi note 2 more, because it has better performance and price. there is one problem about xiaomi redmi note 2, we really don't know the shipping time. many Chinese sellers just presells it, so can anyone give me the idea about when the international version of Xiaomi redmi note 2 released?
galakty said:
Yeah, Meizu has the LED, but only in white color. So You cant set different colors for few apps.
And Xiaomi with MIUI has a lot of updates and fixes. Meizu not .. Thats why i will buy Xiaomi.
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Are you sure? I can check it this weekend when I'll have access to an M2N. But somehow I can't recall the LED flashes white only.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
sunbriel said:
Are you sure? I can check it this weekend when I'll have access to an M2N. But somehow I can't recall the LED flashes white only.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
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I watched two reviews and they said that. But if You can check it, will be great
FumiJ said:
xiaomi redmi note 2 and meizu m2 note are really the best rivals, but i like xiaomi redmi note 2 more, because it has better performance and price. there is one problem about xiaomi redmi note 2, we really don't know the shipping time. many Chinese sellers just presells it, so can anyone give me the idea about when the international version of Xiaomi redmi note 2 released?
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There won't be an international version of xiaomi's devices.
Buy from a reseller with a spedition from Europe/USA
SkiFire13 said:
There won't be an international version of xiaomi's devices.
Buy from a reseller with a spedition from Europe/USA
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ok, too sad for me!
Meizu has a notification LED, better battery, better design, proper software and camera. Xiaomi has a better chipset but a lame battery life so if you're buying it get yourself a power bank just in case[emoji23]
Redmi Note2 has a notification LED as well, the battery is replaceable and battery times are rather good on 5.9.18 - .24 had some problems with that.
I think I also like Redmi's post processing more than the Meizu, as seen here (look at the clouds for example, they're hideous). Redmi also has the bonus of being able to use dualSIM + µSD, while in Meizu's Note 2 µSD uses SIM2.
Also, I can't seem to find any TWRP/custom ROMs for m2 note, while there are some for Redmi, plus an official dev ROM with root. That's clearly an advantage for me.
Hi all, I've been some weeks out and couldn't check here. Some comments.
1- it's true that Meizu m2 Note had Led for notifications, but it's much less customisable and evident than the one in the Xiaomi. It's more discrete.
2- I was really tired of Chinese intrusion on the Xiaomi (really horrible, it started to install apps without asking me through the Chinese AppStore), so I tried to manually disable that store... Not a good idea, since it went soft bricked :[email protected] some hours later I found a new, European ROM. I lost some of the interesting aspects like the music downloads, but HUGE IMPROVEMENT in terms of battery life, much more hours of use with screen on, watching movies for example. This version is Xiaomi.EU 5.9.24 (still beta) based on Android 5.0.2
100% recommendable. The MiHome app works slightly worse.
3- I've tried but I cannot record 1080p video with the front camera, maybe because of the ROM.
4- I could change the video focus to "Tap" so I guess not I can focus when and where I want.
5- With the video in HD (720p) it's possible to use Slow-Motion and Time-Lapse. However, when selecting FullHD quality, only Time-Lapse is available.
Summary, after changing to this new ROM, this device (Redmi Note 2) has earned a few more points. So very happy and good feelings
Not everything is great, it's still a beta so I guess this is one of the bugs pending: sometimes when I take it and press unlock button... The phone doesn't responds, the screen remains black :-/ only option is to remove the battery and boot it again. This happens randomly.
mdabar said:
Hi all, I've been some weeks out and couldn't check here. Some comments.
1- it's true that Meizu m2 Note had Led for notifications, but it's much less customisable and evident than the one in the Xiaomi. It's more discrete.
2- I was really tired of Chinese intrusion on the Xiaomi (really horrible, it started to install apps without asking me through the Chinese AppStore), so I tried to manually disable that store... Not a good idea, since it went soft bricked :[email protected] some hours later I found a new, European ROM. I lost some of the interesting aspects like the music downloads, but HUGE IMPROVEMENT in terms of battery life, much more hours of use with screen on, watching movies for example. This version is Xiaomi.EU 5.9.24 (still beta) based on Android 5.0.2
100% recommendable. The MiHome app works slightly worse.
3- I've tried but I cannot record 1080p video with the front camera, maybe because of the ROM.
4- I could change the video focus to "Tap" so I guess not I can focus when and where I want.
5- With the video in HD (720p) it's possible to use Slow-Motion and Time-Lapse. However, when selecting FullHD quality, only Time-Lapse is available.
Summary, after changing to this new ROM, this device (Redmi Note 2) has earned a few more points. So very happy and good feelings
Not everything is great, it's still a beta so I guess this is one of the bugs pending: sometimes when I take it and press unlock button... The phone doesn't responds, the screen remains black :-/ only option is to remove the battery and boot it again. This happens randomly.
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For use 1080p in front camera you must open camera, select video mode, select front camera, open settings and set 1080p.
The ROM you have choosed has many bugs. Please, download other ROM from xiaomi.eu like 5.10.8 and i suggest to do a wipe data. If you don't want to wipe data try if wipe dalvik and cache may be enough.
Download from here miuif.celogeek.com/5.10.8/
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jack_21 said:
For use 1080p in front camera you must open camera, select video mode, select front camera, open settings and set 1080p.
The ROM you have choosed has many bugs. Please, download other ROM from xiaomi.eu like 5.10.8 and i suggest to do a wipe data. If you don't want to wipe data try if wipe dalvik and cache may be enough.
Download from here miuif.celogeek.com/5.10.8/
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Thanks for the advice, the true is I'm very happy with the general working (specially the battery) although the random blockades and those options you mention... (now I have no way to go to settings when I select the front camera).
I'll try that ROM as soon as I can and share my comments
Have a nice one!
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Letv has just launched a 5.5-inch higher-end mobile Le 1s in, both in volume and appearance has a lot of progress. Specifications with a 5.5-inch screen (1920x1080) with eight processor MTK 2.2GHz Helio X10 64bit, ROM 32GB and Ram 3GB memory, equipped with 5 million front camera and 13 million as the back camera, battery capacity is 3000mAh, and running Android 5.0.2 and EUI 5.5 systems. This small series in person in Beijing to start to try this next-generation Super phone.
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Le 1s integrated body design, the fuselage on the radio microphone and camera lens set is modelled on balance.
Screen ultra thin border design is also used, although Le 1s with a 5.5-inch screen, with 5-inch screen phone similar in size.
Le 1s is a dual SIM phone, two card slots support 4G network.
Although letv le 1s is not the flagship phones, also has fingerprint readers as Le Max , but this generation of the fingerprint reader to unlock more sensitive response than previous generations.
Le 1s equipped with fingerprint recognition, after the user sets up the fingerprint, just put his finger on the fingerprint reader, the screen will automatically turn on. In addition, the fingerprint capture functionality is the fingerprint reader into a shutter button, users turn on camera after a fingerprint reader can make the shutter key.
13MP Camera like F2.0 lens, ISO Cell sensitive components same as Galaxy S6
Body thickness is only 7.5mm
Still using USB Type-C 3.1, and fast charge technology! In addition, part of the fuselage with speakers
3.5mm headphones in the top part
Television keys and volume plus or minus keys on the right side of the fuselage
Systems, using the latest EUI 5.5 system
In the mirror there are variety of situation model of the software for users to choose
Le 1s 4K shooting
EUi 5.5 shortcut key to open with other Android phones vary, users just press the buttons on the left will be opened easily.Opens and you can set their own shortcuts in one picture, music player and cleanup functions
In addition to the application interface, Letv video interface, and provides powerful Letv content
Film entertainment phone needs is a rich color and smooth image, so you can see in the set TV plus 1S have set for image enhancement, similar to the film features of the Sony Bravia.
Older, need larger interface? Letv 1S are not just general phone even magnify words, some appropriate changes to zoom like iPhone, no picture appears endearingly.
I looked up the system information, TV plus 1S remained on the Android 5.0 level and system versions of the EUI the EUI 5.5 is the latest, but due to informal sales version in the hands of, the system should not be authentic, just ....
32GB ROM, actual available after boot is 24.62GB, because the system ROM 4.5GB, prove letv 1S is by no means "food".
3GB RAM, then started up about 1.3GB can be used. This is possible.
If you press the "most recently used programs" (Recent App) keys, different from ordinary phones are commonly used Quick App shortcuts will appear as 1S, Music Player Control Panel, fast set set, and so on. Excellent in all.
"Fingerprint" is TV plus 1S new fingerprint recognition, and unlock the reaction just 0.15 seconds
Letv 1S results
Taken by interface see, letv 1S does not seem to be too many fancy design, function or solid-bashing. Photos the maximum pixels for 13 million pixels.
Support the ability to display special effects when shooting, users can preview before they are shot.
While filming for up to 4K videos.
Support if slow motion video twice times and 4 times in two sets.
Shooting proofs:
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Conclusion
Letv 1s is the best competitor of XIAOMI mi4c and Oneplus X.
great phone and beautiful too how much?
<Mod Edit - Link Removed.> seems to be the only one selling it so far - $242.49$225.99US. Expected ship date of Nov 20. The Le 1 was pretty well reviewed, hope this one is just as good.
wow, it looks nice, i am expecting to get one to show you.
hey guys, I just made a preview video of the Letv Le 1s. All you need to know in 2 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7tSxKFJgZo
Out of curiosity, isn't 45k quite low for an Antutu score with this processor? My K3 note with an MT6752 hits 45k. I'd expect this to be up in the 50's, at least.
Edit: I stand corrected. Apparently this is indeed approximately where this processor benchmarks.
I've order this phone yesterday from spemall.com. They send me info that it should be shipped before 10th november So I'm waiting
Mine was shipped today
qualin said:
I've order this phone yesterday from spemall.com. They send me info that it should be shipped before 10th november So I'm waiting
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wow, nice to hear that, but it's not so reliable in that shop, just be careful.
FumiJ said:
wow, nice to hear that, but it's not so reliable in that shop, just be careful.
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Which shop do you suggest??
Just ordered mine from geekbuying for $199.99
Beast Phone
Just got mine, I've got the gold one
Build quality is awsome!
I hope they release an international rom without the chinese bloatware..
Also Nova Launcher crashes, most likely its just incompatibility, there's no option on settings to set default launcher. I wish they update this ASAP
I buy one too.. If someone find a international (multilangauge) rom or a way to root the phone please post it here..
kramnod said:
Just got mine, I've got the gold one
Build quality is awsome!
I hope they release an international rom without the chinese bloatware..
Also Nova Launcher crashes, most likely its just incompatibility, there's no option on settings to set default launcher. I wish they update this ASAP
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Looks great mate! Can't wait to get mine. I'll be keeping an eye out for any development on this for sure. Hope some good roms are released soon!
Ordered mine and its flying its way to me as we speak
Although I hope it has Play Store when it arrives?
And I guess we need a "Root" guide now too
If nothing else then to remove all the crappy Chinese bloatware!
I buy my on Aliexpres and i ask to uninstal all chinese apk and root them and install Google play, so we will see what i got at the end.. Only one thing i dont like is just english and chinese language.. Hope LeTv realese internetional rom quickly.
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Ordered two days ago from Gearbest in gold version. Anyone know how to install multilanguage??? I've see one video from youtube the x500 with multilanguage and Google Apps installed.
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Ordered two days ago from Gearbest in gold version. Anyone know how to install multilanguage??? I've see one video from youtube the x500 with multilanguage and Google Apps installed.
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I think you got multilanguage and google play if you buy them from gearbest..
from my F1
srale2511 said:
I think you got multilanguage and google play if you buy them from gearbest..
from my F1
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Yes, I think it's possible, but I hope they sent it to me with stock EUI, because usually with gapps the Chinese stores install some Chinese bloatware and frequently malware apps....
Inviato dal mio Z1 utilizzando Tapatalk
We will se.. I read somwhere about how much phone is sold from now and its 11 milion of 1s.. I hope some good developer buy him too..
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Hi All,
I've bought both the Xiaomi Mi5s (miui 8 global) and the OnePlus 3T (oxygen OS 4.03 Android 7) and am trialling both for a few before I send the loser (if you could possibly call one of these great phones a loser) back. I'm finding it very difficult to chose.
Either phone is a huge upgrade from my previous and very safe and stable iPhone 5s. I hope you can help me resolve my conundrum.
My thoughts so far on the comparison:
Software and interfaces:
Both phones have great software but for me the xiaomi swings it on being more customisable in terms of the interface, being able to easily change themes. As nice as changing themes is however, a lot of the themes are like those Kodi skins with weird phrases like "seize the moment" plastered on the home screen. It is a nice to have though and some of them have added some clever navigation features for app sidetray access.
It has a couple of other features that are nice to haves like 'force touch' and recording calls as a standard option but both of these features I would rarely use and can live without. Miuis second space feature is a bit surplus to requirements considering fingerprint locking is all you need for security I'm not sure why I'd need to hide apps etc on another part of the phone, I also found it a bit slow to switch spaces.
Hardware:
Here the OnePlus wins, more ram more speed, not that noticeable in day to day operations but the fingerprint sensor on the Xiaomi has been disappointing, even after rescanning my thumb a couple of times it still either fails to unlock or takes a long time to unlock. The OnePlus 3T is super quick on the fingerprint unlock like the speed of light and very reliable for me. Screen sizes on both are nice, I prefer the larger OnePlus though. I would also say the microphone sensitivity on the OnePlus 3T is better in picking up the "OK google" commands. Both seem to be quite quiet on phone calls with the earphones plugged in, if you make regular conference calls this is quite annoying and there are lots of complaints on the xiaomi forums regarding this for the global rom.
Camera:
This is where the big let down is on the 3T and probably the reason I am still hanging on to the xiaomi . Despite impressive specs on paper I've found shots low in detail compared to the Xiaomi and poor when shooting moving objects. Low light performance is not great on both but overall I feel the Xiaomi Mi5s is the better camera. Video recording I can't comment, both seem to very similar. I'm not a huge photographer and don't post lots of pictures to social media so maybe I can live without it. I'm hoping something can be done with the OP3T camera to resolve some of the above issues.
Athetics and buttons etc:
I like the feel of the OP3T better but the Xiaomi is easier to hold on accounts of is size.
Anyway I hope you can help me with some thoughts here, would love to keep both but I ain't that rich, ideally I'd merge the two but it just can't happen.
No offense but starting your review (and the software aspect) talking about themes is ..... meh.
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No offense but starting your review (and the software aspect) talking about themes is ..... meh.
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OK so maybe you could suggest what's more important for you personally? Am I too hung up on the themes aspect?
Xiaomi Mi5s has a rear camera sensor with 1.55 um pixels (IMX 378 - As in the G Pixel), yet low light performance is not great? How come?
"Despite impressive camera specs on paper for 3T" - The Mi5S has more impressive specs on paper.
Because sensor is not everything my friend
Hi, I'm planning to upgrade Redmi K20 after using A1 for almost 2 years. Is it a good choice considering my requirements of a great build quality with glass back, good camera (including a wide angle camera) and a Amoled screen. Internal specs doesn't really matter that much till it can drive my daily apps smoothly.
Why not.
If i would be buying, i would check if any recognised ROM developer getting that phone. If there isn't a good developer base in XDA, you have to entirely rely on Xiaomi; for updates, for ****ty camera updates etc.
Mi A3 is available, good specs for around 200 bugs
I was waiting for A3, but that subpar display is a big show stopper for me (HD + pentile matrix [emoji2961]). I will wait a bit and if there are no news about proper Android One successor (A3 "pro"), I am going to risk MIUI on 9T. Maybe I'll get used to it with root and some modifications..who knows [emoji846]
Has everyone forgot about treble support by default on newer devices?
Devs will be trying to make GSIs, which will result in much better ROM availablity. And newer kernel isn't a big deal like it was few years back.
So go buy any phone you want.
Hriddhi said:
Hi, I'm planning to upgrade Redmi K20 after using A1 for almost 2 years. Is it a good choice considering my requirements of a great build quality with glass back, good camera (including a wide angle camera) and a Amoled screen. Internal specs doesn't really matter that much till it can drive my daily apps smoothly.
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I just purchased my Mi 9T 2 days ago. The difference between Stock and MIUI is night and day. I miss being able to pull down the notification shade using the fingerprint scanner.
And although the navigation buttons on A1 take up screen real estate, the gesture navigation on the 9T just feels clunky. I hate the swipe left/right on screen to go back.
It was also a headache to remove the bloat apps, as I use mostly Google apps. And I haven't had any experience of Xiaomi Ads, but removing those were the first thing that I did.
In all fairness tho, for the price, it was worth the upgrade because of the camera, Snapdragon 730 and the gorgeous Amoled Screen. I'll probably swap MIUI w/ Lineage OS soon.
Recently famous tech review channel "Unbox Therapy" posted a first impressions unboxing video of the Note 20 and Note 20 Ultra.
While comparing the 2 devices he happened to noticed when comparing the 2 models that the display of the ULTRA was way LESS vivid and LESS bright than the STANDARD Note 20.
He confirmed both were set to 100% brightness, both had adaptive brightness OFF, both were set to Vivid Screen Mode, and both had the white point in the center.
You can view the video and see the difference yourself in the video here....
Time stamp 8:50 if you just want to jump right when he realizes the display difference between them, and starts to troubleshoot this strange difference.
I was planning on potentially preordering the Note 20 Ultra so this really bothered me since I prefer a Vivid display. It shows on video he checked every setting except "Adaptive Color Filter" and "Enhanced Video."
My Testing and Results
So I knew I had to go to the store to see for myself and I went to Best Buy today and they had both the Note 20 & Note 20 Ultra on display.
Bad news... SAME exact results that Lew from Unbox Therapy had. See the pictures of all settings and testing I did below.
In all pictures the Note 20 Ultra is on the Left, the Standard Note 20 on the Right.
Brightness at Max for both displays, and Adaptive Brightness disabled for both devices, and Blue Light Filter disabled for both devices, and both devices set to Vivid mode.
Display Settings
Adaptive Color was also disabled on both devices.
Adaptive Color Filter
Notice the Standard Note 20 on the right has a brighter white point.
White Balance Comparison
This is a 4K UHD wallpaper I downloaded onto both devices. It's the exact same image from the same website. Notice that the Standard Note 20 on the right has more Vivid looking colors with better contrast.
Color Comparison
CONCLUSION:
After spending literally 30+ minutes standing there playing around with both phones, it seems the brightness is pretty close to the same on both. But the Standard Note 20 did seem to have a slight edge on 100% brightness. However the main big difference is the Standard Note 20 has more Vivid colors and Higher Contrast.
I do not think this is because the Note 20 Ultra display is not able to produce colors and contrast as Vivid as the Regular Note 20. I believe it just has to do with the display calibration in the hard coded software of the Ultra that is causing the colors to be more Natural than Vivid.
I came to the conclusion it was a software issue when I was watching the same YouTube video on both displays (Video Enhancer was disabled for both devices), and when playing the video the Ultra suddenly kicked into a more Vivid mode making it look nearly identical to the Regular Note.
Then when closing out of the video and to the YouTube home page it went back to a more Natural color and less contrast mode. Of course that was strange since video enhancer was disabled for both devices.
So this proves the display is capable of being Vivid with High Contrast, but just something in software that Samsung needs to calibrate in the Ultra model. Or maybe worse... potentially this was intentional by Samsung to help preserve battery since it is a 120hz display?
So Samsung needs to.... 1.) Crank up the Vividness of the Vivid mode to at least be Equal to the Standard Note and 2.) Fix video enhancement from turning on during YouTube videos when it's disabled in settings.
So I'm holding off to make a decision on whether to preorder or not since there is still about 12 days left. Meanwhile I hope that they push out a early release software update to fix the Vivid color profile on the Ultra. This is technically preproduction software so it COULD change with a software update, but there's of course no guarantee Samsung will fix this.
So if you prefer a Vivid display that Samsung is typically known for, then it is up to us as consumers to bring this to the attention of Samsung and popular Tech Reviewers, because Samsung doesn't know to fix this color calibration in software unless we make noise to let them know we want a Vivid display.
What is everyone's thoughts on this? Would this be a deal breaker for you on a $1,300 phone if the Vivid Colors and Contrast is noticeably less when compared to your Note 10+ or your S10/S10+ or S20/S20+? or do you prefer a more natural less vivid display?
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Sidenote.....
Hopefully also @dylanraga does a detailed display test on the Note 20 Ultra just like the awesome job he did with the OnePlus 8 Pro right here. That way we can see the actual technical results to further our evidence to bring to Samsung's attention.
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Further Confirmation of This Issue....
I asked Hayato Huseman (videographer/reviewer at Android Central) if he could check his Note 20 Ultra device. He did not have a regular Note 20 to compare, but confirmed the Note 20 Ultra is LESS Vivid than the S20 Ultra.
So that means people upgrading from a previous Galaxy will potentially be upgrading to a Less Vivid display in the Note 20 Ultra.
Very interesting and disappointing results for me personally. So now Unbox Therapy, and now Hayato from Android Central, and my personal testing have all confirmed the Note 20 Ultra isn't as Vivid as standard Note or Galaxys. I'm hoping a software update gets pushed out to resolve this.
Here is the Tweet where Hayato confirms this comparison if anyone wants to check it out.
https://twitter.com/hayatohuseman/status/1292588939195318273?s=19
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New Update!!! Some Note 20 Ultras might have dimmer and less vibrant display than other Note 20 Ultras.
This entire post was originally dedicated to the Note 20 Ultra having a less bright and less vivid display than the standard Note 20, and even the Note 10 Plus, Note 9, Note 8, S20/S20+/S20 Ultra, and OnePlus 8 Pro.
However this issue just took a more crazy turn for the worse. Now it has been discovered that some Note 20 Ultra phones have dimmer less vibrant displays than other Note 20 Ultra phones. Thats right... 2 of the same phones with [different looking displays. This was discovered thanks to Zack at JerryRigEverything YouTube channel when he was testing the 2 different processors.
Check out his video here
At time stamp 4:05 he says... "You might have also noticed the screen color is a bit different with both phones. I'm pretty sure I have the brightness turned up all the way on each. But it makes you wonder if there are other components that don't match up between the variants as well."
I have also attached a picture on page 6 of a post to show the difference. My Note 20 Ultra is a US Snapdragon variant and my display looks like the display on the left (Zach's exynos). I also noticed today that adaptive brightness is NOT fully turning off. I thought a few times over the past couple weeks I saw my display suddenly get brighter or dimmer. But I figured it was just my imagination because I always keep the adaptive brightness off.
However I am able to consistently reproduce it. If I put the brightness at 100% with adaptive brightness Off, then open chrome, the phone immediately dims 1 second after. Then brightens back at the home screen. Try it on your phone. Maybe the out of wack adaptive brightness is a separate issue, or maybe this could be the culprit to these dimmer less vivid displays. So I wanted to mention it too.
I also was able to reproduce it in a different scenario by putting my phone inches away from a bright light in my bathroom while on 100% manual brightness, notice it get brighter without me touching anything, then take it away from the light quickly, then see it dim right in front of my face. Looks like its dropping a solid 20% brightness but the slider doesn't change position. Still shows 100%!
Please test those 2 scenarios on your phone let everyone know if it happens to you too. Also if someone happens to have 2 Note 20 Ultras or know someone who does, then please compare the displays and post 2 pictures. One showing the 2 displays on the google.com homepage in chrome and 1 showing the display section in settings.
Anyone who had a noticeably dimmer display than 1 of your previous Samsung phones made in the past 2 years, then please contact Samsung support and report this. I will be contacting them for the first time about this issue and pushing them for a resolution. Even if that means exchanging for another Note 20 Ultra.
I prefer a more natural looking display like my iPhone LOL.
However, I agree, if someone WANTS inaccurate oversaturated colors then it should be available to them.
That is why stereos have bass and treble controls.
Honestly not real worried about it. Unless you have both side by side shouldn't ever notice. Now if it doesn't look better then my note 10+ then we will have a problem
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At 60hz it's more easy to calibrate the screen colour than a 120hz since there is more variables. That's why Pixel 4 XL has problems at lower brightness at launch since it wasn't calibrated.
Did you disable enhanced video mode on both of them?
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Did you disable enhanced video mode on both of them?
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Yep! I mention that in my original post. Read in the conclusion section.
Also the picture of me comparing colors is not a video. That is a downloaded a wallpaper. So even if it was turned on, that setting should not affect pictures to my knowledge.
cpufrost said:
I prefer a more natural looking display like my iPhone LOL.
However, I agree, if someone WANTS inaccurate oversaturated colors then it should be available to them.
That is why stereos have bass and treble controls.
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Yes! Exactly!! Everyone has different preferences. The option should be there for those who want. Plus what's the point of having a vivid display option when it's not that vivid? That kind of defeats the purpose of the setting existing.
Plus Samsung says on their website that the Ultra is the most Vivid display on any Galaxy. Clearly that's not the case when comparing it to the standard Note 20. Since their website claims it's supposed to be the most vivid, that indicates the Ultra display is not supposed to be this way and something might be messed up in the software that is preventing it from being as vivid as they claim it should be, so they just need to roll out an update to fix it.
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Honestly not real worried about it. Unless you have both side by side shouldn't ever notice. Now if it doesn't look better then my note 10+ then we will have a problem
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It's definitely not more vivid than my S10+ but I didn't take any pictures of that. It seems to be about the same Vividness as my S10+ which is strange.
Not sure about the Note 10+ but probably same results since it wasn't more Vivid than my S10+. I highly recommend going to compare it to your Note 10+ in person.
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At 60hz it's more easy to calibrate the screen colour than a 120hz since there is more variables. That's why Pixel 4 XL has problems at lower brightness at launch since it wasn't calibrated.
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Good point! I actually did briefly put the Note 20 Ultra into 60hz then compared again. I got the same results. Still not as Vivid as the Standard Note 20. I just didn't mention it in my original post because results were the same as using 120hz from what I could tell.
Could it be as simple as pre-release software, or unlikely?
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Could it be as simple as pre-release software, or unlikely?
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Yes, that could definitely be the problem. That it's a bug in their pre-production software that Samsung have not yet noticed.
If you read my conclusion section in my original post I talk about why my testing indicated it seemed to be a software calibration problem and not a problem with the physical display panel.
So that's good, it means they could push out an update to fix it later. Of course there is no guarantee. They will likely only do that if several consumers complain about this issue of the Ultra not being very Vivid in the Vivid display mode.
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Yes, that could definitely be the problem. That it's a bug in their pre-production software that Samsung have not yet noticed.
If you read my conclusion section in my original post I talk about why my testing indicated it seemed to be a software calibration problem and not a problem with the physical display panel.
So that's good, it means they could push out an update to fix it later. Of course there is no guarantee. They will likely only do that if several consumers complain about this issue of the Ultra not being very Vivid in the Vivid display mode.
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I did read your whole post, I just needed it dumbed down for myself.
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I did read your whole post, I just needed it dumbed down for myself.
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Lol! Okay fair enough! Although what I worry about the most is they are doing this limit on Vividness to save battery. In which case means they would not fix it.
The only reason I don't think that it's on purpose is because they claim on their website the Ultra display is the most Vivid Galaxy ever.
I assume it's the flat screen? Or maybe not the 2x? I don't know what that means on the ultra
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I asked Hayato Huseman (videographer/reviewer at Android Central) if he could check his Note 20 Ultra device. He did not have a regular Note 20 to compare, but confirmed the Note 20 Ultra is LESS Vivid than the S20 Ultra.
So that means people upgrading from an S20 or S10 will potentially be upgrading to a Less Vivid display in the Note 20 Ultra.
Very interesting and disappointing results for me personally. So now Unbox Therapy, and my in store comparison testing, and Hayato from Android Crntral have all confirmed the Note 20 Ultra isn't very Vivid. I'm hoping a software update gets pushed out to resolve this.
Here is the Tweet where Hayato confirms this comparison if anyone wants to check it out.
https://twitter.com/hayatohuseman/status/1292588939195318273?s=19
I saw that review from Unbox Therapy (He is really my favorite reviewer - funny but very informative)
Anyway - like virtually all of the Samsung Devices I have ordered pre-orders for (virtually every single major release since the S4 I think) I have gotten sort of used to these little faux pas on their major releases - the last phone, Galaxy 20 Ultra had the notorious problems with Auto Focus....and just about every other phone they launched had something that eventually was fixed - so anyway, I kind of expect something to happen each time a new samsung phone is released - while I am not super happy that this appears to be going to happen again with the new note, it seems like it should be relatively easy to fix with an update, once Samsung figures it out...and I do expect they will find and fix it pretty soon.
Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be as big as the battery issues of the Note 7 or the Auto Focus of the S20....Fingers Crossed it gets fixed soon after release...
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I assume it's the flat screen? Or maybe not the 2x? I don't know what that means on the ultra
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No, a flat screen would not make a display more Vivid if that is what you're wondering. There has been many curved Samsung displays that were Vivid.
I don't know what you mean by "the 2x" what are you referring to? Where did you see that?
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No, a flat screen would not make a display more Vivid if that is what you're wondering. There has been many curved Samsung displays that were Vivid.
I don't know what you mean by "the 2x" what are you referring to? Where did you see that?
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Straight from Samsung website. I thought maybe it meant twice the refresh but then it still says 120 hz so idk
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I saw that review from Unbox Therapy (He is really my favorite reviewer - funny but very informative)
Anyway - like virtually all of the Samsung Devices I have ordered pre-orders for (virtually every single major release since the S4 I think) I have gotten sort of used to these little faux pas on their major releases - the last phone, Galaxy 20 Ultra had the notorious problems with Auto Focus....and just about every other phone they launched had something that eventually was fixed - so anyway, I kind of expect something to happen each time a new samsung phone is released - while I am not super happy that this appears to be going to happen again with the new note, it seems like it should be relatively easy to fix with an update, once Samsung figures it out...and I do expect they will find and fix it pretty soon.
Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be as big as the battery issues of the Note 7 or the Auto Focus of the S20....Fingers Crossed it gets fixed soon after release...
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I love how optimistic you are! I hope you're right! Still gonna hold off on the preorder until reviews start to come out over the next few days. Then make my final decision.
Hopefully a reviewer with close connections to Samsung brings it to their attention, so then we can get confirmation they are aware of the issue and working to fix it. Then I will feel better about pre-ordering. I really hope it is fixed, because it seems like the perfect phone in every other way besides this.
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Straight from Samsung website. I thought maybe it meant twice the refresh but then it still says 120 hz so idk
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Ah Okay I see. I'm not really sure either. I searched that on Google and the display on the S20 Ultra was also called that. I think it's Samsung's way of saying like version 2 of their Dynamic AMOLED. But not sure either. Couldn't really find any explanation.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
It's not only the best phone I've ever used, I think it's clearly far & away the best in class for a phone today and I genuinely want it to raise bars for what's possible with the hardware. As a package, it's remarkable. Best in class overall & in many areas.
I just love it. Nothing is a disappointment. Getting on the xiaomi.eu ROM negated the ill effects of importing a deGoogled phone. It's reliable, charges in ludicrously quick time, is a fantastic camera, seems unofficially pretty splashproof. Feels good, looks good, sounds good, works with everything
Yes, it gets five snowflakes
A few weeks in I have an update!
I'm in the UK. I switched to EE as they confirmed what I figured out: band 20 is not their only 4g band for rural areas. All the old 3g bands are now 4g bands.
So I get 4g everywhere. I live in semi rural Cheshire. If you didn't tell me this had no band 20 I wouldn't know.
And the phone is running Xiaomi.eu rom. As no root yet I also run Blockada. The combination of both means no web ads and no app adverts either.
I feel like I've solved 75% of the software problems. Between this and the flawless hardware I think it's a flawless phone. As long as you're not a lazy user who never reads threads or works things out.
No notification light? TrueEdge works a dream for edge lighting customisable by app or even contact
Headphones quiet? Not with the EU ROM, no stupid warning either
Google maps? Working. I can see where I was yesterday
Everything else is just gravy. I can manage over a day between charges but it's a struggle. This can only go up with root, Greenify works without root to an extent but I do miss lspeed.
I would like to say. You're still importing a phone built for China. I cannot recommend this if you're too lazy to read the EU thread and put on that ROM which makes it westernised and with Google. You'll end up with a phone stuck in Chinese you leave to waste.
In that sense it's not a full recommendation. However if you're on XDA you should at least be open to the idea of modifying your phone for the best performance.
But it's my daily phone now. I use it for work and play. For music , video, streaming to Chromecast, amazing photos (seriously. Plus you can set it to RAW)..
If you buy it and never want to modify it you're either a fool or live in China.
If you buy it and want to unlock it welcome to XDA! You are reading a review of the best phone I've ever used (and I've been modifying phones since jailbreaking my iPhone 3g)
I miss my stereo speakers on the mi 10 pro and that's it!
If this phone had the same speakers this would be untouchable!
Build quality is amazing. I got the silver 16gb ram with 512 memory and I can't be more happy. Some websites like gsm arena state the silver model is actually ceramic not glass. Can't confirm
Antipecterial screen protector and case in the box are a wonderful touch by xiaomi
Screen is fantastic. Haptic feedback is too notch. Great hardware from all aspects
Speakers are good. Samsung level I believe but no where near the amazing ones on the mi 10 pro!
Battery is good. this beast just changed how I use my phones. Now I don't leave it overnight to charge it worry if I run out of juice. Between the 120w charger at home. 100w car charger and 55w wireless on my desk it is never below 80% at any given time on a busy day
Camera is good. Wide-angle videos looks like a GoPro. This is the first xiaomi I don't install gcam on.
I had a Mi 11 Ultra in 2021 but it broke after 2 months and requested a refund.
Last month I bought Mi 10 Ultra used for 320€. Very good deal, but.. taking consideration of being a used phone let me says these thoughts..
Cons first:
The fingerprint sensor doesn't work Calibration missing, suspected that it had a screen replaced, bought the 4 in 1 Calibration tool RL-071B(Yellow striped instead, wonder if thats the issue) and i cant manage to calibrate it on CTI menu, tried dozens of times, white paper black paper, diferent positions of the finger, diferent fingers, disabled dark mode, bright room, dark room, replaced twrp persist.img from stock and custom roms, tried diferent roms, official, xiaomi.eu. only havent rooted the device yet.
It's 3 step calibation, "Put flesh flat", "Put black flat" and "Put flesh chart horizontaly", and most of the error is "1505 bad point cluster".
I saw tones of videos of people succeding it but I grow tired of this and almost lost hope, most local repair shops in my city don't even know these workarounds.
So i'm only using pattern and facial unlock sadly. If anyone want to help me find another solution for the fingerprint, PM me.
The camera while using either Xiaomi.eu or oficial china stock miui 13.0.4.0/13.0.5.0, Miui 12/A10 12.0.9.0 have camera focus issues. Just tonight on 13.0.5.0 xiaomi.eu recorded a video at night and it keeps loosing focus and take too long to recover with objects more then at 3 meter distance.
Sometimes even close objects and specially in low light.
The battery charges from 5% to 100% in 40min with 120w charger (i have a 120w chinese charger and a 120w european charger both bought by the previous user) in 13.0.4.0/13.0.5.0. Read somewhere that from 12.0.6.0 to 12.0.9.0 Xiaomi started to cut down on charging speed. making the 120w useless. This is mostly a 67w charger time like the Mi 11 Ultra. Maybe to avoid damaging the battery since its a Li-polimer and not a Si-O2 like the Mi 11/12 Ultra.
I have the Xiaomi 80W wireless charger adapter when i bought the mi 11 ultra but i don't like cause it makes abit of noise while chargind by blowing fans to it to keeping the device cool down. Charging times are around 1hour 30min more or less.
Display autobrightness during low light is too low but this is a simpthom of most Xiaomi devices. (fixed by flashing a fix but might lead to bootloop on certain roms)
Sadly, only way to use stock navigation gestures with third party launchers like my Nova launcher was to use a Android 10 rom, now i have to resort to keep navigation buttons and use 3rd party navigation gestures like "My Gestures" if i want to use Nova launcher. This is fixed in Samsung devices including my Galaxy Note 10+ Android12. Damn you Xiaomi..
I don't use Android 10 cause Bluetooth might glitch as it happen to me where i couldnt turn it on on miui 12, if you dont update Bluetooth and the update only happens in miui 13 to my knowledge. Fixed it by flashing miui 13/A12 again.
Longest wait i ever had on unlocking bootloader, 360 hours, my Mi 11 Ultra was around 168 hours back then.
Pros now:
Excelent detail of cameras ofc. Specialy during day shots the automatic swtich to ultrawide for macros is great (Missing that option on Mi 11 ultra back then)
The ultrawide lens is so wide that need to have special care not to put my fingers in front of them. xD
And the Zoom lens has OIS and its good. But there were alof of misconceptions that it was a 10x zoom but it ain't its 120mm so its closer to 5x, the good thing it's a 48mp zoom so it can binn zoom shots for extra detail.
The curve display is not that curved, like some curved smartphones, which is a good thing to avoid acidental touches and the Miui setting also helps on that.
The display brightness outdoor during sunlight is also good.
I had a Galaxy Note 10+ and i liked the Vivid colors option and for the mi 10 ultra to have the same kind of colors they need to be in "saturated option, Warm temperature".
My used battery is showing excelent quality in settings and it's lasting a good ammount. I have everything turn on (120hz, Dual Wifi(see bellow), Bluetooth on with Honor magic watch 2 connected and Health app with no battery optimization, location on, dark mode on, NFC on, Always on display with mountain superwallpaper on, exception is mobile data off).
With accubattery is showing bettween 7hour20min use and now recently with xiaomi.eu 13.0.5.0 it's showing 8hours30min but it's probably still updating to my use since i flashed it)
The sound is loud (not as loud as Mi 11 Ultra is i recall) and has a good balance between stereo speakers.
The Equalizer options with Bluetooth earbuds and probably work with usb-c are amazing. Lets you Amp those your earbuds to levels i rarely see in other phones, and lets you choose Xiaomi earbuds presets even if they are not Xiaomi earbuds like my Soundcore Life A2 NC. It's an amazing feature to be honest. The virtual surround option there is mostly a gimmick and adds abit of eco.
Wifi range is trully wonderful, i had several phones, Sony, Samsung and a Vivo Nex S xD and none compare to the MI 10/11 Ultras, My opinion is probably based by the restrictions of Specific Absorption Rate(SAR) that in Europe and the US has, that limits wifi and network quality and on China these must be diferent. This is the radiation that the phones produce. If i ever get cancer you can say i told you so... just kiding really.
My Galaxy note 10+ was always leaving me in a bad spot when it comes to that where i couldn't show my friends a proper youtube video cause it was always loading.
Despite not metting my country requirments for 5g and 4g networks, missing 4g B20 and 5G N78 i still have good signal quality and 5g connects alot of times in my city. Never done a speed test cause my traffic is very limited but no problem watching a 1080p youtube video, and i had issues with my 4g Galaxy Note 10+.
Haptic feedback motor is also very good, not as good as Mi 11 Ultra, but it only works for MIUI UI and not youtube videos or games for example to my knowledge.
There are hidden options that can be recalled using the App called Miui Hidden settings from NetVor.
These hidden settings include Dual Wifi that was only Mi 11 Ultra and connect to a 2.4g and 5G wifi at same time to have better speeds and stable connection, or have 2 diferent wifi at home and stay connected to them all the time. At my home i have 1gb speeds and im getting 550-720mb wifi speeds but with dual wifi 2.4gz+5ghz i get 850mb.
They let you enable better HDR videos if that works (not sure) and also enable the never enabled tecnology called MEMC for smoother videos (also not sure it works properly).
That's it.
Despite some mishaps it's a wonderful device, if one day i grow tired of it and want to buy another phone it's going to be hard to sell if fingerprint is not working properly.