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what's the difference between VillainROM and Lite'ning Rom

Hello, I am a new guy for andriod. Now I am using the lastest offical rom which is KE7.I consider to flash a custom rom while two popular custom roms making me hard to choose, which is VillainROM and Lite'ning Rom. Is there anyone could tell me what's the differfence between these two? what is the advantage of each one? cheers

This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!

thank u for ur suggestion
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ruskprick said:
This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!
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This really in the past all Android phones I have owned have been dire out the box and the roms always made them better but apart from running an alternative launcher I think its pretty much perfect rom.

littlepig877 said:
Hello, I am a new guy for andriod. Now I am using the lastest offical rom which is KE7.I consider to flash a custom rom while two popular custom roms making me hard to choose, which is VillainROM and Lite'ning Rom. Is there anyone could tell me what's the differfence between these two? what is the advantage of each one? cheers
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If you're happy with stock, there's little point in using a custom ROM.
If you want the kind of tweaks I do to ROMs, like removing silly battery warnings, or letting you send longer SMSs to more people, then use VR1.1.
TBH there's no need to use a custom ROM on this phone unless you want these kinds of tweaks, as tbh this phone is good enough out the box

pulser_g2 said:
If you're happy with stock, there's little point in using a custom ROM.
If you want the kind of tweaks I do to ROMs, like removing silly battery warnings, or letting you send longer SMSs to more people, then use VR1.1.
TBH there's no need to use a custom ROM on this phone unless you want these kinds of tweaks, as tbh this phone is good enough out the box
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Does the Villain Tweasks work on the offical firmware? cuz I intall it but does not work on my phone in terms of 'prevent the notification when full charged'.

Just try them both, how long is that really going to take?, I have and prefer Villain simply because I am not big on lightnings theme.

Heh, it's funny how we all have different tastes. I love Litening's theme and it's the only reason I use it. As Pulsar said his opens up so extra tweaks. If you don't have a pressing reason to flash, stick with stock, but maybe root if you need to.

Honestly, Samsung has indeed made a really good work with android 2.3.3. But I took Lightning because I like when there's a theme behind all the software. Like same color, or the similar design which make it good-looking.

I haven't tried Villain, since Litening 1.4 is my first romflashing experience. However, compared to the stock unrooted rom in my Galaxy S II, I think Litening has added significant value to my phone. This includes, but is not limited to:
SMB-shares using Samba
Allows you to access your phone's internal memory and SD card over your WiFi as a shared folder. That way you'll never have to connect your phone by USB to manage files.
Vastly improved sound quality on video recordings
Potatoman has a released a modified version of the camera app, which increases the audio resolution on video recordings from 16 KHz to 44 KHz resulting in clearer and cleaner audio. His mod also allows you to silent the camera (disabling shutter sounds and clicks) and increase the video bitrate (although the effect is negliable).
Improved batterylife
Litening will root the phone, allowing you to get rid of Samsungs bundled apps. Once they are removed, they no longer litter in the background.
Video and voice over Google Talk
Litening features an updated version of Google Talk, which allows you to place free voice and video calls over Googe Talk.
Carrier branding goes away
Some carriers have modified the original firmware to disable certain options, for instance 3 has disabled the option to switch between 2G and 3G mode. Logically, Litening does not incorporate these branded limitations.
Minor user interface improvements
Litening features a modified blue theme, which IMHO looks cool. It features an improved battery icon and a snazzy animation when the screen is turned off.

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I'm new here too! I tried both and they both preform perfectly. Although, from personal experience I found the villianrom to have overall battery life but lite'ning to be more stable with a focus on performance.
I am currently on villainrom lite (bloat removed) with the nimphetamine kernel as I find the battery life to be more important to me.

If you want UI overhaul and improved usability, I recommend MIUI. To be honest, it's the only ROM I find greatly improves the way you use the phone.
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ruskprick said:
This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!
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Exactly. There's no rush to flash a new rom because the original Samsung rom is quite ok for me. Wait for a few months and there'll be a lot of better alternatives and CM is getting better and better everyday.

[Q] Bad question: which ROM to flash?

I feel embarrassed to have to ask this, and I know a lot of people hate this type of post. I want a suggestion for what custom ROM to flash.
I started flashing about 5 months ago with Darky's ROM. And now I like my phone. ( I won't say love, because I love my parents, my children, StarTrek, BSG, hot girls, and icecream and that's it). BUT, the more I flash, the more I get annoyed with the gliches. Darky's 10.1 didn't have working GTalk (w/ Camera), and sometimes has some bugs. I lately flashed Ruyyo EDB1.1 (JVP ROM), but sometimes the phone restarts or crashes, and every 3 days or so, SOMETHING runs down the battery (meaning, the phone over-heats, acts slow, and loses all battery in 5 hours). That might be because of an app, but I think its on the rom. The main apps I use are HandcentSMS, ADW-Ex, and Multi-picture live wall paper. And Gmail (which is FCing every time I restart the phone)
Now there are so many ROMs out, I don't know which one to get. All say they are stable and fast...and I'm sure for many people they are. But I am searching for suggestins. I cannot try out many because I live in China, and because of the damn stupid retarded Great Firewall of China, all downloads of ROMs from Multi-upload are slow (and I need special software to access that site).
So...I'm looking for a ROM which is really stable, which I do not need to do a wipe-flash with and can install with CWM. I would prefer that it use the same lag-fix solution as the Darky ROM so that I can go back to it when they update ...but as I don't every actually activate the lag-fix, probably does not matter.
I'm looking for a ROM which must have voodoo sound (the ability to use my phone with my own AKG earphones without having to unplug said earphones when I answer a call is what convinced me to keep the SGS instead of getting an iPhone4... so this is critical)
I need my ROM to support live wallpapers, so that I can use my LCARS wallpaper with multi-pic.
I prefer my ROM to support the Samsung Music player with the integrated lock-screen widget.
I really prefer ROM which has the front-camera fixed and google-talk operating.
Any suggestions are appreciated.

ogami_ito said:
I feel embarrassed to have to ask this, and I know a lot of people hate this type of post. I want a suggestion for what custom ROM to flash.
I started flashing about 5 months ago with Darky's ROM. And now I like my phone. ( I won't say love, because I love my parents, my children, StarTrek, BSG, hot girls, and icecream and that's it). BUT, the more I flash, the more I get annoyed with the gliches. Darky's 10.1 didn't have working GTalk (w/ Camera), and sometimes has some bugs. I lately flashed Ruyyo EDB1.1 (JVP ROM), but sometimes the phone restarts or crashes, and every 3 days or so, SOMETHING runs down the battery (meaning, the phone over-heats, acts slow, and loses all battery in 5 hours). That might be because of an app, but I think its on the rom. The main apps I use are HandcentSMS, ADW-Ex, and Multi-picture live wall paper. And Gmail (which is FCing every time I restart the phone)
Now there are so many ROMs out, I don't know which one to get. All say they are stable and fast...and I'm sure for many people they are. But I am searching for suggestins. I cannot try out many because I live in China, and because of the damn stupid retarded Great Firewall of China, all downloads of ROMs from Multi-upload are slow (and I need special software to access that site).
So...I'm looking for a ROM which is really stable, which I do not need to do a wipe-flash with and can install with CWM. I would prefer that it use the same lag-fix solution as the Darky ROM so that I can go back to it when they update ...but as I don't every actually activate the lag-fix, probably does not matter.
I'm looking for a ROM which must have voodoo sound (the ability to use my phone with my own AKG earphones without having to unplug said earphones when I answer a call is what convinced me to keep the SGS instead of getting an iPhone4... so this is critical)
I need my ROM to support live wallpapers, so that I can use my LCARS wallpaper with multi-pic.
I prefer my ROM to support the Samsung Music player with the integrated lock-screen widget.
I really prefer ROM which has the front-camera fixed and google-talk operating.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Sounds very much like what I am looking for also. I am on Darky at the moment as well. I just want a good, fresh and 100% stable ROM.
- I need root
- Lagfix would be nice
- Needs to be able to work well with Launcher Pro Plus
- Good battery life
- BLN essential

We all need roms that are stable, fast, and with a good battery life... I think I've tried all main SGS roms, but at the end I think I'll stick with MIUI.
I liked Darky's rom, but I've got too many force-closes... maybe it was my fault because I didn't flash it correctly.
But for a month or so I've used MIUI... it's the fastest rom... You've got tons of lockscreens.. including samsung's (I think). Battery life it's not the best, but the devs are really working on making this rom perfect. For example.. for Galnet... this week 2 updates came out, and we're waiting for a big one friday.
My advice: give MIUI a try and you won't be disapointed

flaviucu said:
We all need roms that are stable, fast, and with a good battery life... I think I've tried all main SGS roms, but at the end I think I'll stick with MIUI.
I liked Darky's rom, but I've got too many force-closes... maybe it was my fault because I didn't flash it correctly.
But for a month or so I've used MIUI... it's the fastest rom... You've got tons of lockscreens.. including samsung's (I think). Battery life it's not the best, but the devs are really working on making this rom perfect. For example.. for Galnet... this week 2 updates came out, and we're waiting for a big one friday.
My advice: give MIUI a try and you won't be disapointed
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There are three reasons why I did not try MIUI. BUT, my reasons may be flawed.
1. In my understanding, MIUI is based on Cryogen (or something like that), which requires that I flash (wipe-flash?) a Froyo ROM first. Which means that I have to download two huge files through the Great FireWall of China. I know that's a lame reason...but that's a fair amount of work for me. Not to mention reloading all my apps.
2. In my understanding, CM (and hence MIUI) does not have the Voodoo sound and does not have the Samsung Music app. The music app is not so big a deal because (in my understanding), CM and MIUI have their own in-notification-bar music controls (which is why I like the Samsung music app). However, I need Voodoo sound in order to allow use of my own headphone while talking on the telephone.
3. In my understanding, MIUI is supposed to look like iOS, which I do not like.
Please let me know if my understandings are wrong.

I also didn't try it because I don't want to flash an updated version twice a week. I want a good working ROM from the start with no need to update until the next Android version comes out.

I am oso on darky's rom previously but having same issue. Then tried Tweaky's rom and Juwe's rom too. Juwe's rom is fast but its bit dull colored and lack of sgs2 apps like Tweaky's rom.Now I am using my own rom base on JVP with Talon kernel with OC, actually it's a mix and match of Tweaky n Juwe's rom. Everything is working so far with some sgs2 apps, tw4, gtalk with video call.Flash n wipe is a must for a start. If u r interested I can post a link for u.
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CM7 (CyanogenMod7) has Voodoo Sound for sure, even Voodoo Colour. BLN should also be possible with a custom kernel.
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best looking rom, fast and reliable its galnet mui. Battery life it;s not great yet but galnet its working hard to fix.
i think that after flashing couple of roms you will decide.

My advice: Juwe's Smart Edition v5.0 XXJVP .... he have all what you need .... and much more

Bisko69 said:
My advice: Juwe's Smart Edition v5.0 XXJVP .... he have all what you need .... and much more
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I'm gonna go with that. What's the best way to flash from Darky 10.1? Disable lag, wipe, flash official and then juwe?

Tim182 said:
I'm gonna go with that. What's the best way to flash from Darky 10.1? Disable lag, wipe, flash official and then juwe?
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Exactly. Just diable lagfix, full factory reset and finally flash Juwe's ROM with CWM.
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I tried most of these roms. I tried to play dungeon defenders with some roms. Holy.. that was very laggy and and unplayable. Now I'm on MIUI 2.2 rom. I tried dungeon defenders again. Wow.. Smooth and smooth... all FPS are X2 on quadrant. My device clock is 1600 mhz max as default as miui. Sometimes it stucks and restarts. But galnet works really hard. And battery is not the best ok. But thats worth it. You can download different themes with theme manager. Also there is an air update app for muiu. Which updates your device latest miui. I l
will stick with that..
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i m using galnet miui also
but the updates is too fast for me to chase
i came from mcgv5.3 to miui 2.2 without going thru mcgv 7.6
personally wat i think miui lacks off is the slide to call or sms from contacts and phone calls there

Lunchbox115 said:
Exactly. Just diable lagfix, full factory reset and finally flash Juwe's ROM with CWM.
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Why factory reset? Why not just do no-wipe flash with CWM?
Part of my problem is that there are a lot of ROMs, and if I'm wiping everytime I do a new ROM, its takes quite a while to restore to full functionality...albiet the end result may be more stable.
burakgon said:
I tried most of these roms. I tried to play dungeon defenders with some roms. Holy.. that was very laggy and and unplayable. Now I'm on MIUI 2.2 rom. I tried dungeon defenders again. Wow.. Smooth and smooth... all FPS are X2 on quadrant. My device clock is 1600 mhz max as default as miui. Sometimes it stucks and restarts. But galnet works really hard. And battery is not the best ok. But thats worth it. You can download different themes with theme manager. Also there is an air update app for muiu. Which updates your device latest miui. I l
will stick with that..
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So you are saying that you had better battery life with others, and MIUI sometimes gets stuck, but you like MIUI because its faster for games and themes? That's not really what I need (although I do like the notification options I saw on it has). I am more not into this because I'm not into having to Flash back to Froyo in order to install.

Lunchbox115 said:
CM7 (CyanogenMod7) has Voodoo Sound for sure, even Voodoo Colour. BLN should also be possible with a custom kernel.
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Hearing this, I'm tempted to bite the bullet and go through the CM7 install proceedure. I then will have to upload the google apps and the new google talk. But the end result may be pretty cool (assuming does not drain battery more than other ROMs). Thanks for the info.

MIUI rom doesnt stuck and restarts as your think. Battery life is not horrible. You can control your headset in miui with different module like voodoo sound. I think thats the best rom to stick now. You can get air updates and you dont need to wipe your data for updates. Just give it a try. I guess you will like it.
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burakgon said:
MIUI rom doesnt stuck and restarts as your think. Battery life is not horrible. You can control your headset in miui with different module like voodoo sound. I think thats the best rom to stick now. You can get air updates and you dont need to wipe your data for updates. Just give it a try. I guess you will like it.
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Thank you. I don't think it gets stuck. Its just that you said in previous post "Sometimes it stucks and restarts." I may try this out. I think I'm going to wait and see what this JVQ-based ROM is like before I do any ROM which requires a wipe.
Slightly off-topic...About my phone...I'm not sure, but I think sometimes the heavy battery drain and restarts are caused by Handcent SMS. I downloaded an app called "OSMonitor" It showed that sometimes Android System is continuously using 40% of CPU, and at those times, Handcent is using 50% of CPU. I guess I should delete Handcent and see if my phone gets better stability and performance. Seems maybe the stability problems were might be blamed in the wrong place. BUT...I really like Handcent...

I'm in a similar situation and decided the only way to get what I want is to put it together myself. This also means you probably wont have the latest and greatest because they might be cool but not always the most stable.
What you can do is, get a deodexed stock rom, install a stable kernel with the mods you need (voodoo, bln, rooted and busybox etc) than use Titanium backup to remove all the things you don't want. presto, you'll have what you wanted...

I think the best option is CM7.
Greetings.

I have CM7 and must re-charge every 8h... Moderate use. Are other ROMs better battery-wise?

advantage of cyanogenmod

Soon Samsung will stop updating the galaxy s so should i install cyanogenmod 7 now or wait till the stop supporting it ...is it easy to install from gingerbread jvq I've looked at the instructions but didn't understand how to do it and is every thing working on the phone with cyanogenmod

Everything is included but the CyanogenMod for I9000 is still an unstable version. FM radio oes not work and there is a feww bug here and there.
To install it, you need to revert back to a Froyo firmware which include a bootloader because the Gingerbread bootloader is not compatible entirely with CyanogenMod. Then, you root your phone, install ClockWorkMod or any kernel that has it, download the ROM, put it in the SD Card, restart the phone in recovery, then install zip from SD Card, choose the Rom Zip file and everything should install correctly.
Here is a link to the whole process LINK
Don't forget to backup your apps, and other relevant information and more important, make a backup of your EFS folder in case your IMEI is screwed up during the upgrade.

You will need to flash back to a ROM with Froyo Bootloaders first, but the installation is now very, very easy....use my guide at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101534
As for the advantages, CM7 is the fastest and smoothest ROM available, with a high level of customization, some exceptional features like the Theme Chooser, and a very active development and user community.
The disadvantages are that the battery life usually tops out at about a day and a half between charges max, and certain hardware features don't work as well as they should, due to the fact Samsung won't release their sources. These include the 780p video camera (lower resolution films fine), FM Radio and TV Out.
IN the end, the only way to really know if CM7 is for you is to try it out and see. Some users ultimately say they prefer the Samsung ROMS while others, like myself, are addicted to the high performance and tweaks of CM7 (as well as the community).
Come by the CM7 thread in the Dev forum, read back a few pages to see what is going on and join the discussions.

Having CM7 on SGS is like owning a Ford GT40. Beatiful and powerful beast, but if you actually dare to use it, it'll probably break down or you run out of juice in the middle of nowhere.

jetcz said:
Having CM7 on SGS is like owning a Ford GT40. Beatiful and powerful beast, but if you actually dare to use it, it'll probably break down or you run out of juice in the middle of nowhere.
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Thats a great way of putting it
Made me laugh, There is an ounce of truth in there !!
Still a good ROM tho, a mega improvement over stock samsung roms at least.

Battery life for me is pretty much the same as stock, the performance is unrivalled and it has more functionality. For me it also more stable than 2.3.4 ROMs which have all kinds of dodgy bugs and random lags.

The battery life has been improved a lot in CyanogenMod, but it is still a bit high when using packet data.
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Well MIUI is based on CM7.. Im a MIUI user and my battery is good, 2 - 2.5 days at a push..
Im not a heavy user, I play a lot of games tho (my misses fails to entertain me)
i tried CM7 when it first came out, I liked it alot, i thought it was great, God knows what its like now... 4 months later ??

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Everything is included but the CyanogenMod for I9000 is still an unstable version. FM radio oes not work and there is a feww bug here and there.
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It is as stable, or more stable, than any other ROM for this phone...
I dont find significant speed difference for Samsung JVQ, but it is more configurable, very usefull bits too, and it has the nicest theme, Honeycream, for someone that doesnt like green or blue themes...
The dialer and the camera apps are garbagge compared with samsung' s, but you can use the market like I did, got RocketDial and Camera360...
And you get a new version almost every night, good if you have nothing better to do then flashing the phone , plus they fix small errors and implement new features, Samsung is not doing that for the SGS any more...
EDIT battery is not a problem anymore...

melorib said:
It is as stable, or more stable, than any other ROM for this phone...
I dont find significant speed difference for Samsung JVQ, but it is more configurable, very usefull bits too, and it has the nicest theme, Honeycream, for someone that doesnt like green or blue themes...
The dialer and the camera apps are garbagge compared with samsung' s, but you can use the market like I did, got RocketDial and Camera360...
And you get a new version almost every night, good if you have nothing better to do then flashing the phone , plus they fix small errors and implement new features, Samsung is not doing that for the SGS any more...
EDIT battery is not a problem anymore...
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Are you sure about your last line? If so...since then its not a problem anymore in uour opinion?
Due to sentences like that I flashed lot of times cm7, just to see if there wasnt any battey drain while using 3g...and unfortunately I had to go back to sammsung roms cuz false reports...
I hope when you said that you mean that its not a problem for most people not only for you
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titooo7 said:
Are you sure about your last line? If so...since then its not a problem anymore in uour opinion?
Due to sentences like that I flashed lot of times cm7, just to see if there wasnt any battey drain while using 3g...and unfortunately I had to go back to sammsung roms cuz false reports...
I hope when you said that you mean that its not a problem for most people not only for you
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Since 60 something, but 75 had a further breakthrough, someone found out what was drainning battery iddle...

How is GPS performance?

melorib said:
Since 60 something, but 75 had a further breakthrough, someone found out what was drainning battery iddle...
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Ok thanks. However I didn't notice any drain while iddle, only while using 3g with tapatalk, browser or whatever.
I guess I'll have to check it bymyself

Codeworx are testing GB bootloader on nightly.
Check out CM thread.
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Going to a good custom ROM like CM is a great idea imo, great support and always new stuff

Thanks for the great info I've still not made my mind up yet

Yeah but use cyanogenmod with fugu kernel and gingerbread bootloaders... You won't go back and you get battery life better than stock (still a problem with battery usage if data is on though)!
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got-petrol said:
Thanks for the great info I've still not made my mind up yet
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U should know also youtube video not working !!! Miui sincerly killed it
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Drained 5% over night, 9 hours, with froyo Boot Loader and #75...
Waiting ansiously for #77...

if you go with 77 im pretty sure you dont have to go back to froyo. Its recomended but but no longer needed... dont take me to my word but check the nightly forum, thats what i got out of it.

Are custom rom's necessary.

OK a philosophical rant.
I've spent hours trying to decide which custom rom to install. Watched all the youtube videos went on all the developers web sites and read hundreds of pages of threads and yet nothing jumps out at me. I was asking myself why do I want a custom rom. So I went through a checklist of what roms offer
1. Remove bloatware - done that through titanium
2. Display customisations - I use sense and nova and various other gui apps that provide many options
3. Tweaks - I have exposed modules - sense 6, gravity box and xsense which give me all the tweaks I need
4. Speed - my phone's running very well.
5. Gestures - I use gmd gestures
Some roms offer hundreds of tweaks. In reality how often and how many would you change. Also while most roms are stable and bugs are fixable, there are many reports of problems and yes I know they do get fixed eventually but losing wifi, carrier access, reboots, bootloops etc can be disconcerting and a common question is how do I get back to stock rom.
I came to the conclusion that the only reason I wanted a custom rom was to see if I could load one and try it out. Seems like a lot of mucking about to achieve, in my case on this phone, very little.
Have i missed the point of roms?

I installed the Android Lollipop custom rom and it was nice. There were two bugs that I encountered and they were 1) no system r/w access and 2) I kept having to dismount and remount my sd card. I tried Cyanogenmod and while it was nice, I missed Blinkfeed.

It's a presonal preference, really. Everybody has their reason for what operating system they run on their phone. As for me, I like custom ROMs because I like to stay on the bleeding edge. If a new version of Android is released, you can guarantee there'll be a custom ROM for it within 1-2 weeks. Even when the OEM has stopped pushing out updates, custom ROMs give the ability to always stay on the bleeding edge. Also, some people dislike the Sense UI. Understandable, since it does slow the phone down just a bit. But really, it' just down to personal preference.

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It's a presonal preference, really. Everybody has their reason for what operating system they run on their phone. As for me, I like custom ROMs because I like to stay on the bleeding edge. If a new version of Android is released, you can guarantee there'll be a custom ROM for it within 1-2 weeks. Even when the OEM has stopped pushing out updates, custom ROMs give the ability to always stay on the bleeding edge. Also, some people dislike the Sense UI. Understandable, since it does slow the phone down just a bit. But really, it' just down to personal preference.
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Maybe its a Windows vs Mac thing. Its funny you know that I'm an experienced computer teacher and on PCs I always stay up to date and I do like to be on the bleeding edge but when it comes to phones I feel differently but on my Samsung tablet I do have a custom rom. I'm not anti custom rom. Samsungs bloatware is ridiculous, touchwiz is awful and the tablet is very laggy. A custom rom here was absolutely necessary. Now it flies but on the htc one m8, I don't mind sense 6, speed is good and customisations are adequate.

Technically speaking they are not necessary. I prefer stock android to sense.
Also lollipop appears to be a game changer for exposed. It's uncertain the future of exposed.
I know my ROM of choice is miui although it can be a crap shoot to get a stable ROM to my liking so I usually use mi launcher

jbarr3 said:
OK a philosophical rant.
I've spent hours trying to decide which custom rom to install. Watched all the youtube videos went on all the developers web sites and read hundreds of pages of threads and yet nothing jumps out at me. I was asking myself why do I want a custom rom. So I went through a checklist of what roms offer
1. Remove bloatware - done that through titanium
2. Display customisations - I use sense and nova and various other gui apps that provide many options
3. Tweaks - I have exposed modules - sense 6, gravity box and xsense which give me all the tweaks I need
4. Speed - my phone's running very well.
5. Gestures - I use gmd gestures
Some roms offer hundreds of tweaks. In reality how often and how many would you change. Also while most roms are stable and bugs are fixable, there are many reports of problems and yes I know they do get fixed eventually but losing wifi, carrier access, reboots, bootloops etc can be disconcerting and a common question is how do I get back to stock rom.
I came to the conclusion that the only reason I wanted a custom rom was to see if I could load one and try it out. Seems like a lot of mucking about to achieve, in my case on this phone, very little.
Have i missed the point of roms?
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Once u try Xposed Module Xtended Settings (for Sense 6) u won't need a rom. It's ALMOST got more features than s6tb, xsense, htc one tweaker, gravity box,- ALL COMBINED AND THEN SOME THAT NONE OF EM CONTAIN.... Newest versions up on Play Store (Xposed report has older versions).... With this 1 single mod, I have no need for custom rom. Try it u WILL NOT regret it (or turn back either)

Are custom roms necessary? In my opinion yes they are.
1: some people prefer a pure android experience (me included)
2: some people want certain tweaks, apps, and settings
3: and the MOST important one! Faster updates, and longer device life.
What do i mean by device life? Newest android on phones that the manufacturer phased out. Look at the galaxy s3 running 4.4.4, or the galaxy nexus running 4.4.4 and probably 5.0 now. These devices stopped getting updates from their manufacturers but are still good usuable phones, preventing me from getting a new device.
This is why companies have been locking down bootloaders, to get you to buy a new device for new software when the one you own is perfectly good.
So it comes down to taste, preference, and android version.

jbarr3 said:
Have i missed the point of roms?
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Xposed and all these apps which you are using came in very late if you compare them to when custom roms started popping up. Now, me for one prefer to have some of the functionality you use baked into my rom instead of me going to the play store and downloading an app to do so.

R4INS said:
Are custom roms necessary? In my opinion yes they are.
1: some people prefer a pure android experience (me included)
2: some people want certain tweaks, apps, and settings
3: and the MOST important one! Faster updates, and longer device life.
What do i mean by device life? Newest android on phones that the manufacturer phased out. Look at the galaxy s3 running 4.4.4, or the galaxy nexus running 4.4.4 and probably 5.0 now. These devices stopped getting updates from their manufacturers but are still good usuable phones, preventing me from getting a new device.
This is why companies have been locking down bootloaders, to get you to buy a new device for new software when the one you own is perfectly good.
So it comes down to taste, preference, and android version.
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Which rom are you using then?
BTW In Australia we are bypassing 4.4.4 and going straight to 5.0. When I don't know (Jan. was mentioned) but I'll revisit roms when they match my firmware. The point about updates is a good one. I forgot about that.

jbarr3 said:
Which rom are you using then?
BTW In Australia we are bypassing 4.4.4 and going straight to 5.0. When I don't know (Jan. was mentioned) but I'll revisit roms when they match my firmware. The point about updates is a good one. I forgot about that.
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Im running the google play edition 5.0 lollipop leak right now. Hoping the official google play 5.0 update comes this week. Kinda laggy. I tend to run cyanogenmod (cm11) so as soon as cm12 comes out ill be switching to that

R4INS said:
Im running the google play edition 5.0 lollipop leak right now. Hoping the official google play 5.0 update comes this week. Kinda laggy. I tend to run cyanogenmod (cm11) so as soon as cm12 comes out ill be switching to that
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Flash the antilag fix holyangel posted, it makes things usable imho. Its not 100% gone but its a whole lot better without the fix.

luigi90210 said:
Flash the antilag fix holyangel posted, it makes things usable imho. Its not 100% gone but its a whole lot better without the fix.
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Yeah i have the tweaks all set. Also switched to nova launcher (ditching google now helps). I really only experience the most lag in chrome and keyboard. I could try a differrnt keyboard i guess but it matches so well.

R4INS said:
Yeah i have the tweaks all set. Also switched to nova launcher (ditching google now helps). I really only experience the most lag in chrome and keyboard. I could try a differrnt keyboard i guess but it matches so well.
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Its funny you say that cause im only experiencing lag on google messanger. Everything else is smooth with the occasional hiccup once and a while.
To add my $0.02 to the topic, i feel custom roms in the sense like CM, AOKP, paranoid android, ect. are not necessary unless you have no way to get pure android on your device. Im running the leaked lollipop rom and im loving it aside from the minor lag issues im experiencing, i feel android has itself to a point where if you need to customize something, you have rooted apps that can do it, there isnt any need to have all these seperate apps baked into a rom when you will only use 1/3rd of the features, its just adding more bloat to what could be a pure aosp rom

luigi90210 said:
Its funny you say that cause im only experiencing lag on google messanger. Everything else is smooth with the occasional hiccup once and a while.
To add my $0.02 to the topic, i feel custom roms in the sense like CM, AOKP, paranoid android, ect. are not necessary unless you have no way to get pure android on your device. Im running the leaked lollipop rom and im loving it aside from the minor lag issues im experiencing, i feel android has itself to a point where if you need to customize something, you have rooted apps that can do it, there isnt any need to have all these seperate apps baked into a rom when you will only use 1/3rd of the features, its just adding more bloat to what could be a pure aosp rom
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While I do agree, that the feel of stock AOSP is unbeatable, I don't think that AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android are completely useless. They have some features that you can't simply add with an Xposed module, or some root app. Take CM's theme manager, for example. I honestly don't know what I'd do without the theme manager. And Paranoid Android's Hover feature? (Which I guess with Lollipop's floating mode, is now useless), but in KitKat, it was revolutionary. And I'm sure they'll continue to add new, unbeatable features in Lollipop, too. And until they stop adding new features, I don't think it's likely that I'll stop using them.

primed1 said:
While I do agree, that the feel of stock AOSP is unbeatable, I don't think that AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android are completely useless. They have some features that you can't simply add with an Xposed module, or some root app. Take CM's theme manager, for example. I honestly don't know what I'd do without the theme manager. And Paranoid Android's Hover feature? (Which I guess with Lollipop's floating mode, is now useless), but in KitKat, it was revolutionary. And I'm sure they'll continue to add new, unbeatable features in Lollipop, too. And until they stop adding new features, I don't think it's likely that I'll stop using them.
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Hover can be used via gravity box, wanam, and other tool boxes like it, themer however is unique to android but for a user like me who stays with stock themes that feature is moot.
With xposed not working on lollipop i can see where having a feature hardcoded into a rom would be good but thats only if xposed is broken forever.
Thats my $0.02 on the subject though, i personally find no need to run a custom rom on my HTC One M8, lollipop has all the features i use and i only need root to manage my kernel, files(root explorer), sound control, and an app like greenify that forces apps to shut down when not in use to gelp battery life.

bdizzle1686 said:
Once u try Xposed Module Xtended Settings (for Sense 6) u won't need a rom. It's ALMOST got more features than s6tb, xsense, htc one tweaker, gravity box,- ALL COMBINED AND THEN SOME THAT NONE OF EM CONTAIN.... Newest versions up on Play Store (Xposed report has older versions).... With this 1 single mod, I have no need for custom rom. Try it u WILL NOT regret it (or turn back either)
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Just installed this and your right, its very good but it is missing a couple of my favourite tweaks from my xsense, sense 6 toolbox and gravity box. Using all of these gives all the tweaks you could possibly want,

primed1 said:
While I do agree, that the feel of stock AOSP is unbeatable, I don't think that AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android are completely useless. They have some features that you can't simply add with an Xposed module, or some root app. Take CM's theme manager, for example. I honestly don't know what I'd do without the theme manager. And Paranoid Android's Hover feature? (Which I guess with Lollipop's floating mode, is now useless), but in KitKat, it was revolutionary. And I'm sure they'll continue to add new, unbeatable features in Lollipop, too. And until they stop adding new features, I don't think it's likely that I'll stop using them.
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CM theme Manager based on T-Mobile theme engine is used by RichmondoUK in his xposed module too

A custom rom is a great thing but not necessary. I wish i had a custom rom on my m8, but since is almost certain that i can't s-off it, i don't wanna risk not been able to update the firmware or to lose wifi or network signal if i upgrade to a rom based on newer firmware. So i'll keep it stock at least until lollipop comes.

I`d like to add something,
Before knowing that GREAT invention called "XPOSED" , custom roms were a must for me and I assume for every android maniac like me. But now things are totally different , with XPOSED u can have customize ur stock rom in all ways . And thus u get all the benefits of both stock roms "stable bug free" and custom roms at the same time. Guys we shud really thank Mr. XPOSED inventor whoever he is. :good::good:

Jabber Abdullah said:
Before knowing that GREAT invention called "XPOSED" , custom roms were a must for me and I assume for every android maniac like me. But now things are totally different , with XPOSED u can have customize ur stock rom in all ways . And thus u get all the benefits of both stock roms "stable bug free" and custom roms at the same time. Guys we shud really thank Mr. XPOSED inventor whoever he is. :good::good:
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I see everyone talking about Xposed.
Given it's uncertain future in Android 5 I'm afraid for the foreseeable you are going to want baked in features on custom ROMs.
I personally cannot wait to see what themers can do with Android 5.0 in the CM theme engine.
Like others I am also waiting for CM12 as it always just feels more snappy than stock.

Recommend me a Rom?

Hey guys,
Recently got my self a Note 3 and I am having a terrible experience with the ROMS... I have a Note 2 still with DN3 and that is flawless, but with my Note 3, I have tried S5 Full port and that is slow, crashes and lags for me, S5+N4 ROM is good for a while then just starts to freeze up and crash, won;t allow my phone to turn on.
Anyone know why this is? I am dong all the steps before hand, wiping caches, wiping phone, leaving phone for 10 minutes and I still get issues even after a full fresh install.
Could someone help me and try and fix some of these problems or is it the phone itself as I have seen no one else have these problems?

My favourite is ray man's V19 light roms and X-note V21. I'm currently using X note and it's great!

Thanks for the reply I tried X-note and it as great, nice and fluid but it having it' sown theme, I didn't like it one bit /: And I couldn't seem to find a way to change it..

IMO
RC ROM is an S5 port and its been wonderful on my Note 3 900W8. best battery life on a TW ROM. no crashes, no corrupted data, no nothing out of the ordinary. almost everything works except, video call (which you can replace with skype obviously) bluetooth tethering (tell me who uses that) and screen mirroring (also too, who uses this just get an MHL and get rid of lag).
You´re welcome
RC Elite ROM

GabTheAce said:
RC ROM is an S5 port and its been wonderful on my Note 3 900W8. best battery life on a TW ROM. no crashes, no corrupted data, no nothing out of the ordinary. almost everything works except, video call (which you can replace with skype obviously) bluetooth tethering (tell me who uses that) and screen mirroring (also too, who uses this just get an MHL and get rid of lag).
You´re welcome
RC Elite ROM
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Thanks for the reply, I'll be flashing this tonight

I've been like you on DN3 with note2. And I have stayed on stock until there is no proper N4 port.
Note3 is so powerful and full of futures that those roms out there not changing much as it was in
Dn3 case.
Of corse I have root, kernel changed and some improvements.
Just my opinion
Regards

Spunkiest said:
Hey guys,
Recently got my self a Note 3 and I am having a terrible experience with the ROMS... I have a Note 2 still with DN3 and that is flawless, but with my Note 3, I have tried S5 Full port and that is slow, crashes and lags for me, S5+N4 ROM is good for a while then just starts to freeze up and crash, won;t allow my phone to turn on.
Anyone know why this is? I am dong all the steps before hand, wiping caches, wiping phone, leaving phone for 10 minutes and I still get issues even after a full fresh install.
Could someone help me and try and fix some of these problems or is it the phone itself as I have seen no one else have these problems?
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After testing a multitude of ROMs, TW based and AOSP, I have come to this conclusion.
If you need your phone to be fast as hell, I recommend one of the two Lollipop builds we have for now, they've become somewhat stable even at this early stage, and both devs seem to have focused on that, so you've got bugfixes every day. And, like I said, the phone will be extremely fast. I've never before had such speed on that Nope 3.
But my own setup right now consists of:
1. This ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2649176
This ROM is as close to stock, stable as stock and still be tweaked.
2. Flashed this theme: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2719942
3. For good battery life I added this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2488082
Now after all this is flashed, I wanted it to look differently, I got the xposed framework and installed Wanam's xposed module, which can tweak colors and behaviors that no app or launcher can change. LIKE THE GODDAMN GREEN PUKED-ON LOOKING GREEN STOCK QUICK SETTINGS.
Also, for good battery life I got the 10 000 mAh ZeroLemon battery.
That's my two cents.

sirobelec said:
After testing a multitude of ROMs, TW based and AOSP, I have come to this conclusion.
If you need your phone to be fast as hell, I recommend one of the two Lollipop builds we have for now, they've become somewhat stable even at this early stage, and both devs seem to have focused on that, so you've got bugfixes every day. And, like I said, the phone will be extremely fast. I've never before had such speed on that Nope 3.
But my own setup right now consists of:
1. This ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2649176
This ROM is as close to stock, stable as stock and still be tweaked.
2. Flashed this theme: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2719942
3. For good battery life I added this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2488082
Now after all this is flashed, I wanted it to look differently, I got the xposed framework and installed Wanam's xposed module, which can tweak colors and behaviors that no app or launcher can change. LIKE THE GODDAMN GREEN PUKED-ON LOOKING GREEN STOCK QUICK SETTINGS.
Also, for good battery life I got the 10 000 mAh ZeroLemon battery.
That's my two cents.
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Downloading now. It seems that any ROM I have, a day or so later it will just turn slow sluggish and doesn't want to load up any apps. Have you ever heard of this before?

Spunkiest said:
Downloading now. It seems that any ROM I have, a day or so later it will just turn slow sluggish and doesn't want to load up any apps. Have you ever heard of this before?
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No. Was your phone new or second hand?

B3311 said:
No. Was your phone new or second hand?
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Bought it from my mum, she got it but went back to an iPhone, around 3 weeks old, maybe 4.