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After I could compare the Ipad2, 10.1 and Transformer for days now, I decided to go and buy an Ipad2. Yes, I turned my back on Android and here's why:
10.1:
Very nice lookings, high quality and hardware but there is a big problem: the colors. On some pictures the saturation is so high that it kills lots of details every time 2 similar colors are nearby. Here you can see what I mean, check the right circle where orange and red meets - if the orange circle would be more reddish, you could hardly tell there are 2 rings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1bkovoLXw4&feature=player_detailpage#t=208s
If you compare it to a perfect calibrated monitor, it looks like crap. Flashy, colorful and nice but details are gone. That's the one and only weaknes from what it offers. It's 16:9 display is a winner when it comes to videos but video playback is poor. Ipad2 is much better, even for flash, later more to come about it.
Another MAJOR problem is Samsung support. Android is a fresh system and needs tons of support. Samsung provides NONE. For EU, they still have no release dates or closer info about their device - just lol. For me, the 10.1 is just a step in the process to upgrade to Tegra3. They built the shell now and can use it for the next device to compete with Apple. Same like they did to the 10.1v - no support, they just forgot about it.
Transformer:
Diplay is pretty good but the build quality is crap. After I saw the Archos tablets with the bronze frame, I knew where Asus bought their stuff. Both have those sharp metal frames which are wrapped around the screen. TF and Archos have gaps between the frame and glas, with some kind of rubber to fill it. Asus tried to even out the sharp edges but you can see how cheap it is. Archos tablets can cut in your finger if you swipe around the edges ! For me: complete garbage quality, should cost 250$ max to satisfy the minimalist who just want's to read or something.
Ipad2:
This device is pretty awesome. First I thought the 4:3 diplay sucks for reading but after I measured books and calculated ratios, they were ALL closer to Ipad2 standards. That menas you will have less wasted space on Ipad. When surfing internet you will learn to love 4:3, everything fits perfectly while you feel how broken sites are on 16:9. The drawback are 16:9 movies without a border and the good about it, you have FULLSCREEN ! in emulators without scaling. There are also a lot of older movies/series with 4:3, which I prefer on travel anyway.
It is fluent everywhere and feels like my Galaxy S after getting the lagfix. Stock 3.1 is bull**** compared to it. The only point where it is superior, are widgets.
Root/Jailbreak/Flash:
Jailbreaking an Ipad is a piece of cake, visit a website, click on a button, your done. No bull**** to flash around or to risk your device. After that you have Cydia which is an alternative market. You can also add repos to it, so you gain access to apps of all kind, also the not so legal ones.
You can play Flash Videos on Ipad using Iswifter or other apps. Inconvinient sometimes but to my surprise, they are fluent on the Ipad - Androids are sluggish. The Ipad even played a movie fluent with 10 other flash animations around it !
The crappy part about the Ipad is itunes and the structure how app files are arranged. Every app has it's own folder, so if you use FTP or something to transfer via network, you have to put those files IN the app folder, so they can find it. Not a big deal, if the app folder wouln't be named like 429403290239203023948393. Android is way better, copy somewhere on SD and browse it. Sure you can use itunes to put everything together but Itunes won't work with Jailbroken apps from Cydia. This breaks the use of my NAS server at home, leaving me with ****ty USB-to-PC solutions if I want it the easy way. Music and Videos which are supported by NAS can be played over UPNP but I found more nice apps for that on Android as I could on Ipad.
Conclusion:
10.1 is a nice device but it's like to own a ferrari and only have crappy roads to drive on. Android kills the Tab, sadly. It's good for smartphones but not for tabs - it's worse as an alpha build of windows. Every manufactuerer does what he wants, there are no standards. Compatibility between Android versions are a joke - imagine you upgrade from win7 to win8 and everything stops working - arrrrrrrgh.
This may be fixed with 4.0 but it will take another 1-2 years for the software. Until then, there will be Win8, which could break Androids neck (if it's compatible to Win7 programms!). Also I can sell the Ipad2 for 200-300 bucks, even if Ipad3 is released, so screw it, will lose ~150-200€ to it. But it will buy me at least 6 months of fun.
The best is, I don't have to care about the future. There is no "will it work after OS upgrade" problem with Apple.
Wow there are so many problems with this post I don't even know where to begin. I think I will just address your last line:
The best is, I don't have to care about the future. There is no "will it work after OS upgrade" problem with Apple.
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Try telling that to the iPhone 3G users who upgraded to ios4 and had a device that was next to worthless. Apple pushed that update out to ose iPhones knowing it would turn it into a piece of **** 100% of the time.
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Root/Jailbreak/Flash:
Jailbreaking an Ipad is a piece of cake, visit a website, click on a button, your done. No bull**** to flash around or to risk your device. After that you have Cydia which is an alternative market. You can also add repos to it, so you gain access to apps of all kind, also the not so legal ones.
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Having met way more people with iPodTouch4/IP4/IPad1&2 that do this than those who DO NOT do this, it makes me wonder if the ideology of app devs to take preference to iOS for financial considerations is not completely flawed.
....what is the point of this post?
your inability to play with android OS and tweak it is not an excuse for you to say that android is flawed..with that said, i agree some stuff need to be fix, but its minor stuff such as typing on the browser...and...well thats it for me.
if you want something that work out of the box, agreed pick ipad 2, but if your geeky or you like linux pick android, more custimization then IOS can ever dream of.
THE firmwares with ripped features for different devices, as they become incompatible with every next release the iphone 3g and now 3gs with ios5. Don't tell me jailbreak is easy, it took the developers 3 months to make a jailbreak for ipad 2 which is still raw with compatibility issues! If buying the idevice is an excuse for free apps...probably games in your case with a new handheld gaming device than off board ye pirate! People jailbreak the device for customisation which is the soul of android os (which is not fresh but time tested and evolving i need not wait a whole year for new features to sprout, mostly inspired and already popular in other os!).
Ever heard of DFU mode, recovery mode? Similar terms and combos are used here! Atleast in android thanks to diversity if one model ain't suitable there is a myriad to choose from! Compare two devices of same platform when making a point.
I agree with G1 and the person above but since you decided to share...let me take a turn.
Why you felt the need to justify your iPad 2 choice in an Android related forum is beyond me.
You either realize or fail to see that Apple purposefully limits their tech. Minimal upgrades between generations. Even the newest iPhone won't support 4G from what I have heard yet they want to use LTE patents against Google?
Your train of thought that the iPad 2 is perfect is already starting to form.
The iPad's dimensions do not in any way make it better for video, reading, and web surfing. I was just having a debate with a friend who started complaining about where the dock port was on my Galaxy Tab 10.1. He was quickly shut up when I pointed out that cell phones have the port at the bottom so our hands can grip the sides. However a tablet is meant to be held in LANDSCAPE...that's why sticking the port in a different place was a smart decision.
Point being...he turned into another person claiming everything is horrible with Android. Guess what? He never owned an Android device. He actually has a Touch Pro 2 right now. IGNORANCE!
Look I've had an iPad. I know that jailbreaking it is POINTLESS. Your battery dies out super fast, the app selection is fairly weak, and all of that jailbreaking does nothing but try to replicate an Android experience. But it fails.
Unlike you, I do care about the future. I don't want to live in a world where everybody has the same glossy tablet with a slippery back so you can drop the darn thing. I don't want to be told what I can and cannot do on my tablet. I do not want to support any company intent on holding back technological progress for the sake of money or who buys patents just to sue other companies out performing them.
You have EVERY right to buy an iPad 2 but just know that your choices and who you choose to support speaks volumes. I have friends just like you. One day they're talking about freedom and openness. The next day they're justifying EVERYTHING Apple does. Cool. As long as I have a choice too.
As for your claims about Windows 8, it only serves to buttress how you allowed us yourself to come to your decision.
"Ignorance is bliss." That should be Apple's new tagline.
I love the OP and how he compares the worst of Android tablets to the best of iPad2 lol
4:3 is perfect for reading books with less wasted screen space. Yay! Now try reading comics and watching WS movies You prefer 4:3 movies? Good for you
Jailbreaking is easy for the iPad2 NOW! But do you know how long it took for the jailbreak to come out? That's right, they've been working on it since the iPad2 was released in March. Four months for a jailbreak to give you the 3rd party features equivalent of... Android. Who knows how long it will be the next time a new iPad/iDevice comes out. Compares that to the usual quick turn-around of rooting an Android device.
I'm happy that you're happy with your iPad 2. It's a nice device. But it sounds like you're just an iOS fan who tried Android and didn't like it.
I'm so glad you guys posted such thorough responses, so now I don't have to. I particularly like the point about why an Apple Fanboy felt the need to post his decision in an Android forum was beyond sensible.
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I agree with G1 and the person above but since you decided to share...let me take a turn.
Why you felt the need to justify your iPad 2 choice in an Android related forum is beyond me.
You either realize or fail to see that Apple purposefully limits their tech. Minimal upgrades between generations. Even the newest iPhone won't support 4G from what I have heard yet they want to use LTE patents against Google?
Your train of thought that the iPad 2 is perfect is already starting to form.
The iPad's dimensions do not in any way make it better for video, reading, and web surfing. I was just having a debate with a friend who started complaining about where the dock port was on my Galaxy Tab 10.1. He was quickly shut up when I pointed out that cell phones have the port at the bottom so our hands can grip the sides. However a tablet is meant to be held in LANDSCAPE...that's why sticking the port in a different place was a smart decision.
Point being...he turned into another person claiming everything is horrible with Android. Guess what? He never owned an Android device. He actually has a Touch Pro 2 right now. IGNORANCE!
Look I've had an iPad. I know that jailbreaking it is POINTLESS. Your battery dies out super fast, the app selection is fairly weak, and all of that jailbreaking does nothing but try to replicate an Android experience. But it fails.
Unlike you, I do care about the future. I don't want to live in a world where everybody has the same glossy tablet with a slippery back so you can drop the darn thing. I don't want to be told what I can and cannot do on my tablet. I do not want to support any company intent on holding back technological progress for the sake of money or who buys patents just to sue other companies out performing them.
You have EVERY right to buy an iPad 2 but just know that your choices and who you choose to support speaks volumes. I have friends just like you. One day they're talking about freedom and openness. The next day they're justifying EVERYTHING Apple does. Cool. As long as I have a choice too.
As for your claims about Windows 8, it only serves to buttress how you allowed us yourself to come to your decision.
"Ignorance is bliss." That should be Apple's new tagline.
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God, I really like this post. Spoke about everything I wanted to say.
I dont want to be told what I can or cannot do. I want to tweak, optimize and control every setting that I can. There are tons of problems with JB and everyone, even a non-apple user like me, knows it. And without JB youre just living in a matrix that Steve Jobs dictates.
I would really like to hear the OP thoughts on flash. My friend tried to buy something on the web and couldnt use her credit card on the iphone. in the end I bought it for her using-yes my samsung 10.1- and she wrote me a check. And Steve Jobs is saying people dont need/shouldnt use/ cannot use flash on their mobile device.
This kinda makes me think of how I am training my 2 year old son to use the potty.
hmmm
I just recently got a galaxy tab 10.1, after spending the last month using an ipad2, I need both tablets for an app i am building.
And I can tell you this much, anyone that has an iphone will love an ipad2. Anyone that uses an ipad2 will be very very very happy with it.
But trust me, use that device for a month, then switch to honeycomb..... and it will blow you away.
One think I can say about apple is so easy to use, than it becomes boring after a while.thats why I have the samsung galaxy tab.
evolishesh said:
One think I can say about apple is so easy to use, than it becomes boring after a while.thats why I have the samsung galaxy tab.
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Apple's draw over its competitors has been its simplicity for years - well before Android. Back in the day it was Microsoft. The sad truth is that reduced functionality in a shinier package is what most people want. Thankfully for those of us with a bit more intelligence, we have products like Android to keep us entertained.
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Apple's draw over its competitors has been its simplicity for years - well before Android. Back in the day it was Microsoft. The sad truth is that reduced functionality in a shinier package is what most people want. Thankfully for those of us with a bit more intelligence, we have products like Android to keep us entertained.
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You are right. I love android and its platform
Um, wow. Glad everyone else said already literally everything I could think of responding to the OP with.
And personally, I will never buy a Win8 tablet until I can wipe it and install Android, Ubuntu or MeeGo on it.
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hmmm
I just recently got a galaxy tab 10.1, after spending the last month using an ipad2, I need both tablets for an app i am building.
And I can tell you this much, anyone that has an iphone will love an ipad2. Anyone that uses an ipad2 will be very very very happy with it.
But trust me, use that device for a month, then switch to honeycomb..... and it will blow you away.
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For the non-ipad users, could you elaborate some points on that? I just want to know some actual comparisons aside from the well advertised facts, ex: flash.
All of these tablets have their quirks and flaws. Mostly with the software. I actually need to return my second 10.1 because it's been randomly turning off like my first. Must be due to heat.
In any case, I will wait for the next batch of tablets instead. Hopefully we start getting some stuff that's really spectacular. Like a processor that can handle the native resolution of HC and has more video codecs.
Colors are pretty drab on ipad and saturated on tab. Both screens need calibration.
Tabs screen is brighter and higher Res. Side by side with same pics regardless of source tab wins everytime. Anyone saying otherwise needs prescription checked.
There's a reason ipadhd is coming. Apple knows full well there display is now second rate.
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After I could compare the Ipad2, 10.1 and Transformer for days now, I decided to go and buy an Ipad2. Yes, I turned my back on Android and here's why:
10.1:
Very nice lookings, high quality and hardware but there is a big problem: the colors. On some pictures the saturation is so high that it kills lots of details every time 2 similar colors are nearby. Here you can see what I mean, check the right circle where orange and red meets - if the orange circle would be more reddish, you could hardly tell there are 2 rings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1bkovoLXw4&feature=player_detailpage#t=208s
If you compare it to a perfect calibrated monitor, it looks like crap. Flashy, colorful and nice but details are gone. That's the one and only weaknes from what it offers. It's 16:9 display is a winner when it comes to videos but video playback is poor. Ipad2 is much better, even for flash, later more to come about it.
Another MAJOR problem is Samsung support. Android is a fresh system and needs tons of support. Samsung provides NONE. For EU, they still have no release dates or closer info about their device - just lol. For me, the 10.1 is just a step in the process to upgrade to Tegra3. They built the shell now and can use it for the next device to compete with Apple. Same like they did to the 10.1v - no support, they just forgot about it.
Transformer:
Diplay is pretty good but the build quality is crap. After I saw the Archos tablets with the bronze frame, I knew where Asus bought their stuff. Both have those sharp metal frames which are wrapped around the screen. TF and Archos have gaps between the frame and glas, with some kind of rubber to fill it. Asus tried to even out the sharp edges but you can see how cheap it is. Archos tablets can cut in your finger if you swipe around the edges ! For me: complete garbage quality, should cost 250$ max to satisfy the minimalist who just want's to read or something.
Ipad2:
This device is pretty awesome. First I thought the 4:3 diplay sucks for reading but after I measured books and calculated ratios, they were ALL closer to Ipad2 standards. That menas you will have less wasted space on Ipad. When surfing internet you will learn to love 4:3, everything fits perfectly while you feel how broken sites are on 16:9. The drawback are 16:9 movies without a border and the good about it, you have FULLSCREEN ! in emulators without scaling. There are also a lot of older movies/series with 4:3, which I prefer on travel anyway.
It is fluent everywhere and feels like my Galaxy S after getting the lagfix. Stock 3.1 is bull**** compared to it. The only point where it is superior, are widgets.
Root/Jailbreak/Flash:
Jailbreaking an Ipad is a piece of cake, visit a website, click on a button, your done. No bull**** to flash around or to risk your device. After that you have Cydia which is an alternative market. You can also add repos to it, so you gain access to apps of all kind, also the not so legal ones.
You can play Flash Videos on Ipad using Iswifter or other apps. Inconvinient sometimes but to my surprise, they are fluent on the Ipad - Androids are sluggish. The Ipad even played a movie fluent with 10 other flash animations around it !
The crappy part about the Ipad is itunes and the structure how app files are arranged. Every app has it's own folder, so if you use FTP or something to transfer via network, you have to put those files IN the app folder, so they can find it. Not a big deal, if the app folder wouln't be named like 429403290239203023948393. Android is way better, copy somewhere on SD and browse it. Sure you can use itunes to put everything together but Itunes won't work with Jailbroken apps from Cydia. This breaks the use of my NAS server at home, leaving me with ****ty USB-to-PC solutions if I want it the easy way. Music and Videos which are supported by NAS can be played over UPNP but I found more nice apps for that on Android as I could on Ipad.
Conclusion:
10.1 is a nice device but it's like to own a ferrari and only have crappy roads to drive on. Android kills the Tab, sadly. It's good for smartphones but not for tabs - it's worse as an alpha build of windows. Every manufactuerer does what he wants, there are no standards. Compatibility between Android versions are a joke - imagine you upgrade from win7 to win8 and everything stops working - arrrrrrrgh.
This may be fixed with 4.0 but it will take another 1-2 years for the software. Until then, there will be Win8, which could break Androids neck (if it's compatible to Win7 programms!). Also I can sell the Ipad2 for 200-300 bucks, even if Ipad3 is released, so screw it, will lose ~150-200€ to it. But it will buy me at least 6 months of fun.
The best is, I don't have to care about the future. There is no "will it work after OS upgrade" problem with Apple.
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I did the same thing,I had the transformer for week return it and waited for the galaxy tab,I love the galaxy tab but too much force closes and app crashing.I exchange tab for ipad2 and jailbreak it.
I am very happy with the ipad,but I miss honeycomb,hope ice-cream sandwich and all manufactures they stop using nvidia Tegra
The hardware is there, and Google is revving up for Ice Cream Sandwich right now, which will hopefully bring some much needed changes to current Android
Tablets.
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The fact that you're here means you don't mind getting your hands dirty.
So you have one simple choice - have your device running as you want it by managing the device yourself, loading ROMs from XDA - or not and wait until Apple decide to fix something.
XDA is fantastic - here there's talented bunch of guys & gals mixing & matching the best features from roms of different vendors into something unique.
There is no comparison between Apple & Android.
if the iPhone can beat Android as a mobile phone OS. I still don’t think it can in the long run, but a CDMA or dual-band iPhone will certainly give Android a run for its money in the mobile space. However, I’ll gladly take some fragmentation if it means I can have a variety of devices made smarter, better, and more connected by their use of Android. Hardware and software developers don’t think of iOS as an embedded operating system. Android, on the other hand, can absolutely be the embedded OS for a new generation of devices. And several million smartphones along the way.
what do u think
You can't compare an open source os with 'closed' os like iOS which can only be used on apple devices.
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well technically the android on the galaxy tab10.1 is closed, too...
that why u dont have it on the regular tab
I don't understand how the iPhone got popular to begin with. If you want an iPhone how many options do you have? What maybe an 8 gig or 16 gig model? I mean seriously, you don't have a choice, the hardware has no real options. With Android there are many options, you can have a slide out keyboard, HDMI out, trackball, soft menu keys or physical buttons, you can find one for your price range, or you can get the one with dual core processors and blazing fast speed, you can get the smaller sized phone or the big 4.3 inch screen like on Droid x, etc. My point is that the iPhone is a "take this it is what you want" as to where Android is a "what do you want in your phone? Here are all your options, yes you can have that slide out keyboard for texting if that is how YOU like to do it." Why buy a "one size fits all" product that is the exact same as everyone else's? How do you make your statement? I love my Droid x, as I feel it is superior to any iPhone. I can put all my videos and pictures on a TV screen without buying a fancy apple converter box thingy. I can browse the web and view flash videos. I can install apps not found on the market or "installous". I can install a custom rom, like CM7 if I feel my OS isn't what I like, can you run CM7 on an iPhone? I can keep going, but why? There are way too many reasons that Android kicks apple's ass to the curb.
Sprint SGT + CM7 = AWESOMENESS!!!!
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How do you make your statement?
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What if, and I mean this just by chance I know it sounds absurd, what if you actually buy something to use it? Crazy talking, I know.
Plus hardware standardization leaves you without a choice (not true, you can buy something else) but improves software quality, and that leads to more and better apps... nevermind the games, compared to iOS Android looks like OSX compared to Windows from that point of view: sure, there are plenty of games, some are really noteworthy but! have a look at the top selling games on both platforms. You'll notice that even cheap casual games on iOS tend to look better! Then you can't do some things in Android that iOS does... namely connecting to a VPN. I asked a question once, never got a reply, so I'm guessing you can't change the tethering apn (you can on iOS). You can't have easy and incremental backup of your device on a computer, because it's trendy to hate iTunes so having something like that would bring shame to Google. Nor you can handle in an easy way the music/multimedia files in general that are on the device, again no iTunes. Once you jailbreak, cool stuff happens, on Cydia there is an app to fake wifi connectivity, so even with a mobile data connection you can use some apps... high quality YouTube, FaceTime, games that whine about wifi, stuff like that.
Going a bit out of the system merits, iOS has also a lot more (and infinitely better) multimedia apps. Just look at iMovie or any virtual instrument app.
I'm not tellin you Android dosen't do anything more han iOS, that would be just stupidity or a lie, but once you jailbreak.... same as rooting. Alllllll sort of cool/weird stuff, with the difference that in that case is niche, and so less developed, less abundant.
Back on topic anyway, will iOS beat Android? LOL no, impossible. Do the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad win? Totally. Android has a greater marketshare than iOS, however there are 4 iOS devices if you count Apple TV, and..... endless Android ones. What the iPad sells in a month is more than the whole lifecycle of a Xoom. It's like comparing the bible to the fantasy books... sure the fantasy ones sell more, but it takes a whole literary genere to outsell a single book! So it's really a matter of what you mean with "winning".
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I don't understand how the iPhone got popular to begin with.
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Yes, Iphones,ipod,ipad are more expensive than an equivalent android device yet idevices outsell android by a big margin. Seems it is more glamorous to show around the apple logo than "samsung".
As for the topic, maybe it depends on what comparison point for both OS to come into conclusion on what is better. What if, although far fetched, android is installed on iphone, would iphones still outsell other android devices?
I really think so....
Both Can Exist Together
Both can exist simultaneously. The iPhone for people who want the finished product, Android and its devices for the more adventurous.
I had an iPhone and loved it. When my contract expired I could have gone for an iPhone 4 but it wouldn't have been sufficiently 'new' to keep me interested for 2 years. So I got a 7" Tab and use it as my phone. I still tinker with settings 6 months on.
Most people though, just want a device which works. And that's the beauty of the Apple message - 'it just works'. They don't want to have to manually load a ROM, back up their settings and photos, and learn how to use Odin/Heimdall. They want a good UX out of the box.
Android, as it goes through the iterations, will become more of a 'finished' product, and (I expect) will become more prescriptive. However, with the Amazon tablet coming up, and other devices using older Android versions, 'forking' will keep the landscape interesting, and there will be enough to keep things interesting.
I for one will be paying attention when the new iPhone / iOS is announced on the 4th October, and I may go back to Apple - who knows?
For now, Android 2.3 (Overcome Kratos) is good for me, but I'll always be looking for improvements.
Is it possible to port Android wear to an old phone (sgs 1) to use as a smart watch and get updates over the bt connection?
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Is it possible to port Android wear to an old phone (sgs 1) to use as a smart watch and get updates over the bt connection?
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If the device has Bluetooth LE and the right specs it's quite possible. The wear devices run a form of android on the same type of hardware as cell phones and tablets (the LG G Watch, for example, has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 and 512MB of RAM inside).
However, it really depends on when the full Android Wear source is released and whether someone is interested enough to try porting it over. With the always-on display mode the battery life will probably be very, very poor.
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Is it possible to port Android wear to an old phone (sgs 1) to use as a smart watch and get updates over the bt connection?
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Wowwwwwwwwwwwwww
Misho.20123 said:
Wowwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Don't judge, (s)he may have a very good reason for wanting to do this, i.e. to learn more about how the Wear os runs on different shaped screens or to build one device into a dashboard for the car.
This is actually starting to sound fun now that I start to think about it.
I will try to port it!
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If the device has Bluetooth LE and the right specs it's quite possible. The wear devices run a form of android on the same type of hardware as cell phones and tablets (the LG G Watch, for example, has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 and 512MB of RAM inside).
However, it really depends on when the full Android Wear source is released and whether someone is interested enough to try porting it over. With the always-on display mode the battery life will probably be very, very poor.
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I will try to port it to htc chacha as long as the sources comes out..
tsukisan said:
Don't judge, (s)he may have a very good reason for wanting to do this, i.e. to learn more about how the Wear os runs on different shaped screens or to build one device into a dashboard for the car.
This is actually starting to sound fun now that I start to think about it.
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I've got two Sprint Samsung Galaxy Nexus phones (I'm a tech for Sprint, they don't fetch much money on buyback, and all my co-workers know I love the Nexus phones).
With AMOLED screens, those could be put to some great use with a Wear like system.
great idea
its a very great idea because i got x10 mini and i just want to install Android wear into it.
small phone + Wear interface = nice combo
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8-Incher
So does anyone have a solution? I have an ALPS K8 Android Phone Watch (not a smartwatch, a phone on my wrist, not really that good), but if I can get it to run Android Wear, then it would be very useful.
I read somewhere that its possible to flash a custom ROM, to get Wear to run over the existing Android distribution, but I can't find a suitable ROM to flash it into.
Please help.
I was never able to find any solution, sorry.
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i´m sorry for my ignorance, but
what happens if i flash android wear stock system on an old phone ?
dj_PA101 said:
I will try to port it to htc chacha as long as the sources comes out..
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Has your port been working successful? Then i have a Domino DM368 Android 5.1 smartwatch... I want to install Android wear, Because stock standalone android system sucks at all on these watches
gioele 1334 said:
Has your port been working successful? Then i have a Domino DM368 Android 5.1 smartwatch... I want to install Android wear, Because stock standalone android system sucks at all on these watches
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I also bought the same watch, DM368, please also let me know about rooting the watch and making it compatable to android wear...
Anybody know anything about this watch?
I know the Geak company is owned by shanda
Link: igeak.com/watch2
I don't speak chinese well enough yet to understand this site, but this smartwatch interests me
It's largely geared toward the Chinese market. It will run Android but not Android Wear. Most of the Android Wear features aren't available in China so they decided to make a custom version of Android for the watch which they call GeakOS. It allegedly has both an LCD and an e-ink screen. Screen size is 1.3 inches. They say that it has a long battery life, but, then again, they said the same thing about the original Geak watch. It has a microphone, but, no mention as to whether it has a speaker or not, just that the watch can have "chime" notifications. The Pro version of the watch has a heart rate monitor on the back of the watch.
The main issue I have with the thing is that the apps need to be custom made for it and since it's geared toward the Chinese market, there may not be support for a lot of otherwise popular apps. The other issue is that the company was very slow to release the original Geak watch. The thing was up for pre-order for almost a year before it was actually released. When it was released, it wasn't anything special and even felt cheap (pictures looked like it had a metal band around the screen but it turned out to be cheap plastic, LCD screen didn't have the greatest resolution, battery life was rather poor, etc). So the question is how long will this thing be up for pre-order before they actually release the thing? They say they'll ship in January 2015, but, I don't think they'll be able to meet that deadline.
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Every four minutes really...
I am an electrical engineer, with 9 years experience in the field of PCB layout, design, and programming.
I have information to share which is valuable to this community. I guess I will share it in a few days when its relevance has diminished.
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Every four minutes really...
I am an electrical engineer, with 9 years experience in the field of PCB layout, design, and programming.
I have information to share which is valuable to this community. I guess I will share it in a few days when its relevance has diminished.
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Here is my third post, yay, 7 to go before I can get to my point!
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Here is my third post, yay, 7 to go before I can get to my point!
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You can guess my point though if you search the title of this thread. There is a youtube video which I will link in 6 posts which I find fascinating.
This smart watch has android, is inexpensive, has a pulse monitor, and "e-ink" screen. I wanted to know if it is any good. It has the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 but is much thinner 9.5 mm.
Thoughts?
No SIM or WiFi, 320mAh battery. Android 4.2.
I'm sure it's a good piece for those that prefer notifies. I guess someone will have to buy it and test it.
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No SIM or WiFi, 320mAh battery. Android 4.2.
I'm sure it's a good piece for those that prefer notifies. I guess someone will have to buy it and test it.
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Yeah no SIM sucks, or WiFi, no Compass, no GPS. But it does have Bluetooth 4.0/2.0 whatever that is... anyone know if that is a mistranslated 4.2?
That is a small battery true 320mAh but that possibly leads to the lighter weight, lower height of the watch which is 9.5mm thick.
It does have Android 4.3 actually, and it uses the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 which is already ported. It only has 512 megs rom and 512 megs ram, which will be a problem for adding apps, that right there is almost enough to kill it.
The big thing it does have is.
Pulse Monitor
E-Ink Background, it switches between e-ink and TFT seamlessly, there is a youtube video that makes me want to buy this watch.
Run time is 7 days on paper, while displaying time 100% of the time using e-ink (very cool)
It has android so it can be upgraded at some point by the ppl in this forum!!!
If there is something similar / better out there for the same money let me know before I buy this one! I am leaning toward this one mainly because it is so thin, its actually thinner than the apple watch (10.5mm)
vanionbb said:
Yeah no SIM sucks, or WiFi, no Compass, no GPS. But it does have Bluetooth 4.0/2.0 whatever that is... anyone know if that is a mistranslated 4.2?
That is a small battery true 320mAh but that possibly leads to the lighter weight, lower height of the watch which is 9.5mm thick.
It does have Android 4.3 actually, and it uses the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 which is already ported. It only has 512 megs rom and 512 megs ram, which will be a problem for adding apps, that right there is almost enough to kill it.
The big thing it does have is.
Pulse Monitor
E-Ink Background, it switches between e-ink and TFT seamlessly, there is a youtube video that makes me want to buy this watch.
Run time is 7 days on paper, while displaying time 100% of the time using e-ink (very cool)
It has android so it can be upgraded at some point by the ppl in this forum!!!
If there is something similar / better out there for the same money let me know before I buy this one! I am leaning toward this one mainly because it is so thin, its actually thinner than the apple watch (10.5mm)
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So, there is the Reedone X1 which is interesting but does not have the low power e-ink TFT thing going for it. I like the specs but dont like the 11mm thickness and lack of e-ink TFT.
Reedone website shows the Reedone X2 (there would be a link here, but you have to find it yourself because reasons!) The Reedone X2 is the same watch as the X2 Smartwatch from IQI, with same pictures and stats.
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So, there is the Reedone X1 which is interesting but does not have the low power e-ink TFT thing going for it. I like the specs but dont like the 11mm thickness and lack of e-ink TFT.
Reedone website shows the Reedone X2 (there would be a link here, but you have to find it yourself because reasons!) The Reedone X2 is the same watch as the X2 Smartwatch from IQI, with same pictures and stats.
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a smart watch then?
This looks the same as GearBest are selling as Atongm WO13 http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_166847.html and has the same display as he MiMi Mi-W3/Podoor PW305II http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_139964.html
I looked at this a few weeks ago but could see no advantages over the Mi-W3 I already own plus the following disadvantages:
Not waterproof - the MiMi is IP67 rated.
Much larger in height.
Proprietary charging cradle - what is the point when it isn't waterproof and uses exposed electrodes? Just something else to lose or break.
Edited to add: The BT 4.0/2.0 is because it uses a dual module that connects with either 2.0 or 4.0 protocols dependent on the device it is connecting to.
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This looks the same as GearBest are selling as Atongm WO13 http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_166847.html and has the same display as he MiMi Mi-W3/Podoor PW305II http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_139964.html
I looked at this a few weeks ago but could see no advantages over the Mi-W3 I already own plus the following disadvantages:
Not waterproof - the MiMi is IP67 rated.
Much larger in height.
Proprietary charging cradle - what is the point when it isn't waterproof and uses exposed electrodes? Just something else to lose or break.
Edited to add: The BT 4.0/2.0 is because it uses a dual module that connects with either 2.0 or 4.0 protocols dependent on the device it is connecting to.
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I have been researching this over the past day.
It appears to be sold under 3 different brands
As Antogm W013 through gearbest,, geekbuying, lightinthebox, everbuying/dealsmachine, coolicool/efoxshop, Ebay and Aliexpress - but no stainless version
As IQI X2 on Aliexpress
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...32324780280.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.tnhc0X
As Simptech X2 on Lightinthebox and Aliexpress -
http://www.lightinthebox.com/simpte...kers-waterproof-for-andriod-ios_p2863209.html
Cheapest I found was mobile version of aliexpress for $72 (simptech version)
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32334308627.html?spm=2114.32010308.0.47.u2PDkj
There are two videos on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-_uypACBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJO-_JkKDGc
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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I don't believe it is Android based, apart from the splash screen there is nothing in the videos or adverts to suggest that it is. As it uses an Ingenics XBurst CPU I would guess it uses a version of their MIPS compiled Linux.
Although on Pandawill and Geekbuying, it clearly states Android 4.3 as the OS. Also, didn't the smart Q run on the same JZ4775 chip and run Android? i'll check with all the china shops tommorow and see what they say about the OS.
LightInTheBox says Android too, I was just going on the videos and screenshots, neither of which look like any Android I've seen, but of course it could be heavily customised.
Read the reviews of the NO.1 G2. Doesn't sound like a good buy. I'd definitely wait to see what the S7ler or others reviews have to say about the Sun.
maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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Thats what I'm thinking. I'll check with them both later today and see.
sambutler86 said:
I have been researching this over the past day.
It appears to be sold under 3 different brands
As Antogm W013 through gearbest,, geekbuying, lightinthebox, everbuying/dealsmachine, coolicool/efoxshop, Ebay and Aliexpress - but no stainless version
As IQI X2 on Aliexpress
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...32324780280.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.tnhc0X
As Simptech X2 on Lightinthebox and Aliexpress -
http://www.lightinthebox.com/simpte...kers-waterproof-for-andriod-ios_p2863209.html
Cheapest I found was mobile version of aliexpress for $72 (simptech version)
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32334308627.html?spm=2114.32010308.0.47.u2PDkj
There are two videos on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-_uypACBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJO-_JkKDGc
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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I saw a video of the No. 1 S2 and the screen goes to the edges and beyond. I saw lettering go past the screen, which looks glitchy. I was tempted because of how slick it looks but they didn't do any work on switching the square scene to a round screen.
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maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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Geekbuying claims it has Android 4.3 on it....but still not 100% convinced.
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Yes, It does. that video shows the Android boot animation, plus Android is the only OS JZ4775 supports.
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I am torn between this one and the Reedone HG-X1.
ISI X2 :
72.08 - Lowest Price
TFT Screen, Heart Rate Monitor, Pedometer, etc...
Reedone HG-X1:
80.99 - Lowest Price (black plastic?) at
Same as ISI X2
+GPS
+Waterproof
+Built in USB Connector
- 1mm thicker at dial
They are very similar. I have not seen a video on the Reedone yet though.
Any thoughts on these? Do they actually run Android? Would android gear be portable to these?