I've done some searching a googling for a while now and I can't seem to find anything definitive (especially with the confusing naming of the Moto x brand). Basically I'm wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to root this phone without unlocking the bootloader or installing a custom recovery? Essentially I just really want root access but still be able to get OEM updates and stay on the original ROM I'm running now. Anyone who really know about this please help, and thank you so much!
that's a no if you want to stay on stock as soon as there is OTA I am pretty sure someone will have a stock rom.
On previous editions (where there was a locked bootloader) essentially root was achieved by finding some unpatched vulnerabilities and exploiting those.
The problem is since the bootloader is easily unlocked, there may not be as much as incentive for the experts to hunt for exploits to do this - although I'd be very interested in one myself since I'd love to root without unlocking the bootloader and voiding my warranty, but I'm not holding my breath...
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pinoymutt said:
On previous editions (where there was a locked bootloader) essentially root was achieved by finding some unpatched vulnerabilities and exploiting those.
The problem is since the bootloader is easily unlocked, there may not be as much as incentive for the experts to hunt for exploits to do this - although I'd be very interested in one myself since I'd love to root without unlocking the bootloader and voiding my warranty, but I'm not holding my breath...
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Yeah it would be nice for sure. I'm not even so concerned about that warranty, I just want to be able to stay on stock rom and get the updates. Tired of all the TWRP, CM, and all that stuff. Been doing it for too long on previous phones.
It's tricky without the unlock, as you won't have a backup of /system on your recovery in case something goes awry.
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I have had my phone for about a year. I have been playing with the idea of rooting and running custom roms. I have done so with an Acer A500, but as its not dependent on 2 year contract, I have never had reservations after the warranty was up. Now I am really wanting to see benefits of custom roms on my Razr M, but I am not sure where to begin rooting and what ROMS are best/stable (subjective I know). Can someone point me in the direction I need to go as I am having a hard time figuring out what process to use with the latest OTA update having been applied and never rooted before. Is there one better method to unlock over another? I am trying to catch up with lots of amazing work reading through whats been done, but I feel a bit out of my zone. Thank you in advance.
lawrex said:
I have had my phone for about a year. I have been playing with the idea of rooting and running custom roms. I have done so with an Acer A500, but as its not dependent on 2 year contract, I have never had reservations after the warranty was up. Now I am really wanting to see benefits of custom roms on my Razr M, but I am not sure where to begin rooting and what ROMS are best/stable (subjective I know). Can someone point me in the direction I need to go as I am having a hard time figuring out what process to use with the latest OTA update having been applied and never rooted before. Is there one better method to unlock over another? I am trying to catch up with lots of amazing work reading through whats been done, but I feel a bit out of my zone. Thank you in advance.
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Unfortunately, you can't unlock or root at the moment. A root exploit might be found, but you probably won't ever be able to unlock...
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Unfortunately, you can't unlock or root at the moment. A root exploit might be found, but you probably won't ever be able to unlock...
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I was afraid of that. It'll be my fault for not doing it sooner. Thanks for the response.
I was finally about to root my RAZR M after owning the phone about a year. My primary reason for rooting would be to uninstall all of the system bloat ware that came with it.
I've tried a few different ways to root, but it keeps failing. There was a new update installed a couple days before I tried rooting and I suspect this is the reason it won't work. Is this the case?
Is there a workaround for rooting RAZR M with the current update? If there is simply no way to do it, I would at least like to know if there's a way to remove pre-installed apps without root. Please help!!
Thanks in advance for your response.
mikephillipsart.org
nixthelatter.bandcamp.com
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What's your system version? I you're on the most recent update, there's no way to root yet.
Thanks for your quick response.
98.30.1.XT907
Update happened literally the day I was planning on rooting!! Gotta loose that bloatware! Plus I'm a compulsive customizer.
I'm wondering if its possible to revert back to before the update.. my research so far has produced nothing so far
mikephillipsart.org
nixthelatter.bandcamp.com
flow motive said:
Thanks for your quick response.
98.30.1.XT907
Update happened literally the day I was planning on rooting!! Gotta loose that bloatware! Plus I'm a compulsive customizer.
I'm wondering if its possible to revert back to before the update.. my research so far has produced nothing so far
mikephillipsart.org
nixthelatter.bandcamp.com
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At the moment there is no way to root 98.30.1 without an unlocked bootloader. Reverting back to previous versions may brick your device.
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Leraeniesh said:
At the moment there is no way to root 98.30.1 without an unlocked bootloader. Reverting back to previous versions may brick your device.
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I have an unlocked bootloader and have the newest OTA, would you be able to point me to a way of rooting? Please and thank you!
dtraini7 said:
I have an unlocked bootloader and have the newest OTA, would you be able to point me to a way of rooting? Please and thank you!
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Grab the .zip from here and flash in recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I got a Razr M from a friend who had already updated to 98.30.1 and I'm stuck now with a locked BL and Unrooted ROM. No hope in sight? Then there's this ... http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...y-warranties-on-developer-devices-reinstated/
Maybe there is a silver lining in the horizon?
Really bums me out there's no root for the new update, I was waiting to root till I decided I was gonna keep this phone then the Sept update came and now I can't root. Very disappointed. Wonder if it'll ever get bl unlock?
Anyone considered this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541739 ?
My wife just purchased a Sprint Moto x. I have been researching root methods for it and am VERY confused. There seems to be no straight this is what firmware you need to be on, this is the procedure you need, etc it just seems to be all over the place. It would do well to have a sticky on root for these devices. But anyway, she is on 4.2.2 and I told her not to take any updates in case they patch root exploits available. Can anyone tell me for sure if root is possible for this version, and if not is there anyway to get back to a version that is capable ? And the tool needed if applicable. I would be very appreciative of any help or guidance!
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wessiide said:
My wife just purchased a Sprint Moto x. I have been researching root methods for it and am VERY confused. There seems to be no straight this is what firmware you need to be on, this is the procedure you need, etc it just seems to be all over the place. It would do well to have a sticky on root for these devices. But anyway, she is on 4.2.2 and I told her not to take any updates in case they patch root exploits available. Can anyone tell me for sure if root is possible for this version, and if not is there anyway to get back to a version that is capable ? And the tool needed if applicable. I would be very appreciative of any help or guidance!
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go there to unlock the bootloader and follow the instructions. If an OTA update is available it's safe to take it.
Then after follow this (Only if your bootloader is unlocked already) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534850
You'll also need Motorola Fastboot as it is recommended by them.
If you root on 4.2 you need to use SlapMyMoto I think to retain root through 4.4.
Basically you pick your poison. By the way, unlocking bootloaders on non Developer edition device voids your warranty completed. So keep that in mind when choosing.
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go there to unlock the bootloader and follow the instructions. If an OTA update is available it's safe to take it.
Then after follow this (Only if your bootloader is unlocked already) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534850
You'll also need Motorola Fastboot as it is recommended by them.
If you root on 4.2 you need to use SlapMyMoto I think to retain root through 4.4.
Basically you pick your poison. By the way, unlocking bootloaders on non Developer edition device voids your warranty completed. So keep that in mind when choosing.
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Thanks for the info. This will be my 5th rooted phone and 3rd bootloader unlock so the warranty thing means nothing to me, but I appreciate the help. Info is sporadic and inbetween on this forum.
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I have also been trying to read up on rooting the Sprint version and have had a hard time. It's in this forum in several places but not as nicely laid out as in other device forums. Basically, from what I have read, the easiest way to do this is to unlock Bootloader.
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I have also been trying to read up on rooting the Sprint version and have had a hard time. It's in this forum in several places but not as nicely laid out as in other device forums. Basically, from what I have read, the easiest way to do this is to unlock Bootloader.
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Yes you are correct, unlock your boot loader flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu, which version of android are you currently running as there's 2 versions of tarp, 1 for jb the other for kitkat
Here's a sticky thread with all the required links http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558785
For kitkat use mfastboot (Motorola binary)instead of fastboot to flash recovery
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Or just use SlapMyMoto and use this http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=18 for the 4.2.2 files you need.
I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
LifeAsADroid said:
I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
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Just read this on Android Authority and was wondering if it would work. Great to hear this. Again, users got REAL lucky on this one considering this wasn't created specifically for this phone, but for the general population of unpatched 4.4.2 kernels.
Word of warning, if you used my UNIVERSAL script to flash 183 onto your phone, you must either manually flash the TZ partition or use my KEEP DATA script before rooting an unlocking else it will fail.
BTW, I just received an email notification from Motorola stating there is another soak test coming, so definitely root and unlocked your phones NOW and I can't stress that more than enough or else, you can kiss root and unlocking good-bye, especially if this is an 4.4.3 update. Once 4.4.3 comes out, /system is no longer writeable and things will get really ugly.
So, root and then unlock your phones on the 4.4.2 KK OTA before the next one comes out or you will be sorry.
BTW, if you're so worried about voiding your warranty, once you root, you've voided your warranty and there is a root checker built into the device, so they can tell if you've rooted or not, so if you're going to root, you might as well unlock the bootloader.
The warranty concern is nonsense. PLENTY of people sent back unlocked phones and no one ever complained. Yes, the soak emails were known about last night which is why we've been trying like hell to get this message out to everyone to get it done NOW. It's an almost certainty that the TZ partition will be secured again. And root will almost assuredly be patched since it was patched in the linux kernel on june 3rd. Unlocking is the surefire way of keeping root forever, and getting to play with new roms which is awesome. Plus, don't like kitkat? Downgrade with my UNIVERSAL script. (Yes, the one that's causing some problems for people unlocking. LOL). We can not stress this enough...NOW is the time to unlock before it's too late. I can't even begin to describe how lucky you all are.
One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
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One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
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yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders
That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
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billycar11 said:
yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders
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Stop that. They're not going to relock the bootloader. However, screw OTA's. Wait for the FXZ to leak and use my RSD Script Generator to create a KEEP DATA or UNIVERSAL script and flash that with RSD. Flash custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) and flash supersu zip and be done with the whole thing. Forget unrooting and trying to make the OTA work. Too much effort. LMAO
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See what you've done? These poor people are now paranoid about bootloader relocking. LOL! They won't relock it. It's physically blowing an eFuse to do the unlock. Relocking would be extremely problematic and cause more problems than they'd solve. And given the likelihood that this was "accidentally" done (cough cough) in the first place, there's an almost 0 chance of relocking.
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That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
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i dont think they will and even if they did we could probably get around it with @SamuriHL universal script we would just have to wait until the sbf/fxz files come out
Which I'm recommending you do anyway.
I never unlocked the bootloader the first go round but I'm sure going to this time.
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Good to hear. I want everyone with these phones to do so. This is a great opportunity. No one should be sitting on the fence this time.
Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?
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Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?
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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
4.yes
5.no you you use the hack posted
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3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
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Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
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Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
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yes that is what i posted
Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
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billycar11 said:
yes that is what i posted
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Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?
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Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
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twrp by @dhacker29 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776515
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xknobi said:
Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?
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there is no jb 4.2 i think you mean 4.1..2 . but you will not be able to use it on jelly bean you need to update to kitkat root then unlock.
Just got another email from Motorola to sign up for a preview of a new software release. Probably fixes issues that were discovered after the KK upgrade.
CAUTION FOR THOSE WITH LOCKED DEVICES: Considering you just got a new root method, I would steer clear from this if you want to keep root. I have a feeling Towelroot will not work after this since it only works for kernels dated before June 3, 2014. Also, this might break the current tethering hack as well for 4.4.2.
It would be nice if this were a 4.4.3 update, but I don't know at this time. Since I'm unlocked, I'm going to go ahead and sign up for it and see what happens.
Just wanted to get the word out to anyone with locked bootloaders to probably stay away from this unless you don't care about root and the tethering hack.
The bad news about this means the "can I unroot my KitKat phone" won't go away once the OTA comes out.
Pretty obvious that locked users should be careful with the new OTA, same as before, don't rush ahead of yourself and install every OTA that Moto pushes out. Also today is a great day, we've got a root and apparently locked users can unlock their bootloader while being on 183.46.10 update. So I'd rather recommend people to take root and unlock and do whatever the hell they want after that, considering rooting and unlocking is as simple as just installing and running 2 apks.
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Pretty obvious that locked users should be careful with the new OTA, same as before, don't rush ahead of yourself and install every OTA that Moto pushes out. Also today is a great day, we've got a root and apparently locked users can unlock their bootloader while being on 183.46.10 update. So I'd rather recommend people to take root and unlock and do whatever the hell they want after that, considering rooting and unlocking is as simple as just installing and running 2 apks.
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What? Locked users can unlock the bootloader? How? I didn't see that. Motopocolypse, from what I understand, doesn't work with anything after 9.16 OTA. I got lucky and was able to unlock mine about a year ago (didn't have 9.18 OTA applied from the factory). Still, if people can unlock their bootloaders with the KK, that's great, but again, I have not heard nor seen anything that states this. I only knew about Towelroot and that's it.
As for it being obvious, didn't matter after this past KK upgrade. People did it anyways and we got an unflux of "how do I root this sucker?" over and over again.
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What? Locked users can unlock the bootloader? How? I didn't see that. Motopocolypse, from what I understand, doesn't work with anything after 9.16 OTA. I got lucky and was able to unlock mine about a year ago (didn't have 9.18 OTA applied from the factory). Still, if people can unlock their bootloaders with the KK, that's great, but again, I have not heard nor seen anything that states this. I only knew about Towelroot and that's it.
As for it being obvious, didn't matter after this past KK upgrade. People did it anyways and we got an unflux of "how do I root this sucker?" over and over again.
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I guess I'll be late and you've found that after upgrading to KK and rooting it, you can unlock bootloader with Motopocalypse ^^. Also idk why wouldn't anyone want to unlock BL, considering the phone is on its end of life cycle and won't get anymore android updates (e.g 4.5+) it seems rather wise to unlock and have all the goodies now and in the future.
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Also, this might break the current tethering hack as well for 4.4.2.
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I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Droid Maxx "Developer Edition"
Topsnake said:
I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Droid Maxx "Developer Edition"
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Awesome. Thanks a bunch for that. I'll definitely want to try it out once I the new OTA comes in. Since I have an unlocked bootloader, I'm not too frightened to do the OTAs, but to know that we can get another tether mod if it does indeed break with the next OTA, that's a relief.
tether seems broken..
Topsnake said:
I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
Droid Maxx "Developer Edition"
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I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Just to confirm, from what I can tell yes the tether hack seems to have broken, I am rooted, unlocked and all that good stuff so I can always flash back, but as a warning I tried to get it working again with no success.
Now I am not ruling out the possibility that I am a dope and screwed up the procedure somewhere, in which case I pray someone can confirm it works and maybe teach a fool to fish .
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I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Just to confirm, from what I can tell yes the tether hack seems to have broken, I am rooted, unlocked and all that good stuff so I can always flash back, but as a warning I tried to get it working again with no success.
Now I am not ruling out the possibility that I am a dope and screwed up the procedure somewhere, in which case I pray someone can confirm it works and maybe teach a fool to fish .
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Uh. the tethering hack still works. Go here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...d-native-tether-exploit-build-183-46-t2872547