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can you guys try this out and tell me if you see this on your screens. first turn down the brightness and go to a web page with lots off black text. on my screen everything black leaves a faint line across the screen wherever there is a black pixel from right to left. do you guys see this? out is much less noticeable when the brightness is turned up.
I've seen a tiny hint of this in my screen, but it hasn't bothered me. If it's severe in your phone, you may want to contact HTC.
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can you guys try this out and tell me if you see this on your screens. first turn down the brightness and go to a web page with lots off black text. on my screen everything black leaves a faint line across the screen wherever there is a black pixel from right to left. do you guys see this? out is much less noticeable when the brightness is turned up.
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yes I notice this as well but I have to say that is only noticeable with backlight set to minimum, and i think it's a normal behaviour of an amoled screen. Now I have one question about the screen too:
When I'm watching pics or movies the screen has a very good resolution. For all the rest the screen seems a bit dotted and grainy, especially with text. For example in the app launcher where the app's names are written in white and the background is black the text is not extremely clear and if I take a closer look theres seems to be pink pixelss on the letter's edges. I can notice this thing almost evrywhere but I think it's a lot more clear to see with text and the backlight set to max. do you manage to see this too or do you think that's because i have a defective phone?
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yes I notice this as well but I have to say that is only noticeable with backlight set to minimum, and i think it's a normal behaviour of an amoled screen. Now I have one question about the screen too:
When I'm watching pics or movies the screen has a very good resolution. For all the rest the screen seems a bit dotted and grainy, especially with text. For example in the app launcher where the app's names are written in white and the background is black the text is not extremely clear and if I take a closer look theres seems to be pink pixelss on the letter's edges. I can notice this thing almost evrywhere but I think it's a lot more clear to see with text and the backlight set to max. do you manage to see this too or do you think that's because i have a defective phone?
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the grainyness on thin objects like text is 100% normal, its just how these OLED displays work.
This guy did some awesome research into the graininess issue using a macro lens on his camera. Really interesting stuff...
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-tech-issues-bug-reports/1199-amoled-display-issue.html
aron7awol said:
This guy did some awesome research into the graininess issue using a macro lens on his camera. Really interesting stuff...
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-tech-issues-bug-reports/1199-amoled-display-issue.html
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Eheh it's me that started that thread and i think that guy really did a great job trying to explain what's the problem... now i'm curious to know how many people notices this because till now it seemed that only me and that guy could see this "issue" so sometimes i'm still worried i have a faulty phone...it won't be a good thing since I'm from italy and getting a replacement phone wouldn't be very easy
My screen also appears reddish when i turn off the blacklighting in the clock app :\ maybe its defective?
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My screen also appears reddish when i turn off the blacklighting in the clock app :\ maybe its defective?
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No, mine experiences the same thing. Seems like reds are more biased when less power is given to the LEDs (not exactly a "backlight"). This is slightly noticeable on the lowest brightness setting too.
And mine experiences the "black line" issue too. I guess it's just how OLED screens work.
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No, mine experiences the same thing. Seems like reds are more biased when less power is given to the LEDs (not exactly a "backlight"). This is slightly noticeable on the lowest brightness setting too.
And mine experiences the "black line" issue too. I guess it's just how OLED screens work.
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ok thanks, it's just reassuring to know that its not only my n1 experiencing this
Seen it slightly a few times. But never bothered me since I'm never in very low brightness that much.
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No, mine experiences the same thing. Seems like reds are more biased when less power is given to the LEDs (not exactly a "backlight"). This is slightly noticeable on the lowest brightness setting too.
And mine experiences the "black line" issue too. I guess it's just how OLED screens work.
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Red? Mine goes purple...or am I color blind?
iVisionX01 said:
Red? Mine goes purple...or am I color blind?
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Yes it's more purple than pure red
miketlo said:
can you guys try this out and tell me if you see this on your screens. first turn down the brightness and go to a web page with lots off black text. on my screen everything black leaves a faint line across the screen wherever there is a black pixel from right to left. do you guys see this? out is much less noticeable when the brightness is turned up.
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Does it look like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628270
In conjunction to the post, "blue tint problem," which isn't really a problem but anyway....
I thought it'd be interesting to create a poll to see where everyone's at with their Vibrants.
Please participate in the poll, it'll be very interesting to see...
So if you're on the blue side or yellow side, obviously submit yours accordingly, however, for neutral that's for those who have calibrated monitors that can get true comparisons to determine if it's neutral.
There's no need to lie here LOL..it's just for fun so the more accurate it is the better. Don't just click neutral if you don't really know for sure. Try comparing your phone first with other Vibrants to be sure.
Here we go!
It's slight blue, but related to viewing angle and screen brightness. Viewing straight on, it's pretty neutral.
OolonColuphid said:
It's slight blue, but related to viewing angle and screen brightness. Viewing straight on, it's pretty neutral.
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I know what you mean. Could the SAMOLED screen perhaps slightly change in its color tone as it warms up?
When I fired up the two Vibrants I have that was turned on for the first time and compared it to my other two which has been in use, the two never been used phones screen looked identical in its tone/shade.
So perhaps over time it does change as it, "breaks in?"
Does anyone know if this blue tint will get better with time? Mine seems to be the same, wondering if I should exchange my phone.
Well, mine is more cyan, though I can understand people calling it blue and it's driving me crazy. Even with brightness all the way up, there is no real white. This issue will likely cause me to return my Vibrant - along with the cheap build quality - as my Nexus screen looks much better and neutral in comparison. Even my wife noticed it immediately though she also has a Nexus.
Neutral, I've compared with monitors and other Vibrants from my T-Mobile store.
The blue should fade over time..sometimes they put in a bit of extra blue to compensate the blue's lower life span..if you want to even it out use a blue background as your home screen for a while and it should even out >.>
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The blue should fade over time..sometimes they put in a bit of extra blue to compensate the blue's lower life span..if you want to even it out use a blue background as your home screen for a while and it should even out >.>
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Are you sure it will fade? Where did you get that info from, I know wikipedia talks about this and says the same thing, but wikipedia is not really that accurate. Where did you get your info?
I downladed an LCD test app from market, i'm running a constanst blue screen hoping it will help fade out the blue tint a bit. thanks
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Are you sure it will fade? Where did you get that info from, I know wikipedia talks about this and says the same thing, but wikipedia is not really that accurate. Where did you get your info?
I downladed an LCD test app from market, i'm running a constanst blue screen hoping it will help fade out the blue tint a bit. thanks
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When compared to mine my wife's had a very strong blue tint to it. Since I ordered ours over the phone I called Tmobile. They overnighted me a replacement without any hassle, I'd give them a call and see what they will do for you.
posted this in the other "blue tint" thread too
"...since the OLED material used to produce blue light degrades significantly more rapidly than the materials that produce other colors, blue light output will decrease relative to the other colors of light...In order to delay the problem, manufacturers bias the colour balance towards blue so that the display initially has an artificially blue tint, leading to complaints of artificial-looking, over-saturated colors..."
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I know im gonna get flamed for this and Im prepared, but this has got to be the stupidest thread I have ever seen. Lmfaoooo OPS Pics are halarious, you can barely see the difference. I dont know seems like nit picking to me.. Im sure someone will say I paid 500 for this and it should be how I want it.. Well, then wait till its been out a few weeks first and find out the issues, and if a slight, slight barely noticed Blue tint was a issue and it bugs you, dont get the phone.
That easy. But wow, Im still laughing at this... Crazy funny, let me guess, the silver aound the edges blinds you in sun from the reflection?
Flame away, but I say common...lol GOOD day all and enjoy this phone.... Guess what, your next phone will have some wierd things too, nothing is perfect like some of you are expecting...
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Thats what im saying, i mean in all honesty you can barely tell, maybe they upped the blue output so that when everyone plaed avatar for the first itme on thre phones ppl were like damn the blues looks so good.....
I agree, stupidest topic ever. I thought I seena blue tint but now its gone. And as fast as the nexus screen looking nicer...my friend had his over the other day and it looks dull compared to the vibrant.
I guess if your imagining a blue tint, or don't know how to change screen settings them maybe you need a less advanced device.
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I agree, stupidest topic ever. I thought I seena blue tint but now its gone. And as fast as the nexus screen looking nicer...my friend had his over the other day and it looks dull compared to the vibrant.
I guess if your imagining a blue tint, or don't know how to change screen settings them maybe you need a less advanced device.
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I guess if you did not receive a defective Vibrant with an extremely blue screen, even with brightness all the way up and power saving mode off, your not qualified to speak for those who did. Of course it would not make sense to you.
i dont know about you guys but every time Ive ever seen a white LED its always had a blueish tint (like automotive LED's) its really not that big of an issue
My display was noticeably blue the moment I turned it on... going to the T-Mobile store today to see if I can get a better unit with a more neutral color temperature.
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I know im gonna get flamed for this and Im prepared, but this has got to be the stupidest thread I have ever seen.
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It matters to some people more than others. If it doesn't bother you then great. It's not really fair to criticize people who are bothered by it--one should have a reasonable expectation for color accuracy of their display, especially for a device so touted as being a multimedia powerhouse.
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I see the ops pics, maybe the problem is your guys' eyes and ya should get them checked... I can barely tell the diff and I got perfect vision....
I stand by my statement .... dumbest topic ever.....
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I'm a graphic designer. I work with colors for a living every day. I've come to think that I have a pretty decent grasp of color.
Like I said, if you can't tell or it doesn't bother you or your handset isn't afflicted--great! But please don't dismiss the complaints of others simply because you "can barely tell the diff". ****
I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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You know, some people here say every Super Amoled has a blue tint. I have to disagree. I've been comparing my vibrant side by side to other vibrants, and the screens vary from phone to phone. Samsung deffinately has some manufacturing inconsistences. Side by side to other Vibrants, my screen has a very visible dark grayish blue tint. Other vibrants have a slight blue/green tint. While other vibrants i've compared to have gorgeus warm whites. 1 vibrant had a very dingy yellow look to all the whites. So this is not in our imagination, the screens vary a lot on these phones.
My cousin just got the vibrant this morning, she had not seen mine. She saw mine this morning and says "why is your screen blue?" Put mine side by side next to hers, and hers has nice warm bright whites. All of our brightness settings were identical.
I'll be exchanging shortly when I have time.
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I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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So, does your replacement still show the blue screen tint?
I just got an Epic.
Reading several threads across the Galaxy line, there is apparently a variation in screen color temperatures. From my readings, I see a pattern where perhaps the newer/replacement units have yellower screens. At the same time, those newer units also get darker in auto brightness mode than the older units.
From my own observation, the color temp gets cooler as the brightness increases.
Is it possible that Samsung tweaked the auto brightness so that the phone now gets darker in order to save the battery? So perhaps the different color temp observed are a function of how bright the screen is?
I don't care for the yellowish screen on my new Epic. I like a cooler/colder screen. Comparing the Epic next to my LCD Evo and Touch Pro 2, it is outright yellow. Comparing the 3 phones next to my Nexus One, the N1's screen looks pink. (I can post some pics tomorrow).
Bottom line, I'm trying to decide if I should try to return/exchange the phone for another and hope for the best. I read that there are some potential software solutions out of XDA, but I prefer to have a phone that is natively "cold".
Any input would be great.
Thanks.
Mine's pretty yellow. :-( In brighter light, it is not a problem. Darker screen is the result of a software update. Got mine on launch day.
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APOLAUF said:
Mine's pretty yellow. :-( In brighter light, it is not a problem. Darker screen is the result of a software update. Got mine on launch day.
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Thanks for the information. Before the software update, when the screen didn't get as dark, did it appear less yellow at the [pre-update] low brightness?
In other words, does the screen now look more yellow than ever since the update and darker screen?
Cheers.
I got my Epic on Oct 1st, and I haven't noticed this yellowish at all, but maybe I need to do a thorough side by side with an older model?
Did you get any pics to post up yet? I'm interested to see this
Edit: Sorry, just saw you said you can't post pics until tomorrow.
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Thanks for the information. Before the software update, when the screen didn't get as dark, did it appear less yellow at the [pre-update] low brightness?
In other words, does the screen now look more yellow than ever since the update and darker screen?
Cheers.
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Just as yellow as always. Post-update, the screen dims more. At this point, it appears yellower. My Captivate also now dims more, post-update, and seems bluer at dimmest setting.
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The only time I've had problems with my screen was when my phone had gotten damage from water. I'm on my 2nd epic and this one doesn't have any yellowish tints. Only about a week old now.
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I picked up my Epic on 9/29 and don't see any yellow tint at all. I'm not an expert here but I think I would notice a tint like that. My blacks are very clear and dark also. I did notice that it seemed to run on auto brightness a little darker than it had...that was probably the D-118 update after I had it for only a few days.
I will follow this thread and see where it goes.
I don't think the screen color variation is based on release date. I have two of them since 8/30. One of them has a yellowish tint compared to the other. They both have the same DI18 update.
It seems like a coin-toss what screen color comes. I wish we have a tool that would allow easy color temperature adjustment.
I read a thread about a way using a modified kernel, but it would be nice to have an .apk that works (even if it requires root).
I got one on launch day that had more of a blue tint to it. I got another one last week that was a refurb, and it definitely is more yellow.
Weird. I just got mine today and it's very cool (read: blue) compared to my Evo... being a photo guy, this drives me nuts. I prefer warmer diplays.
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I have one of the cooler screens, and I kinda like it.
My thoughts:
1) Samsung is trying to extend the life of the blue oLEDs by altering the color temperature of screens. Since this seems to be happening independently of ROM version, it's probably something they're doing with firmware.
2) (IMO More Likely) The screens on different phones came from different assembly lines or different production runs, and have a slight variance in color production. The production date of the phone wouldn't necessarily matter in this case.
The only project I know that deals with the color temperature of the screen is voodoo:
http://project-voodoo.org/color
I currently have it running on my ROM. It adds a new "very low" brightness setting a the bottom that's much dimmer than even the lowest one available in DI18. (Note: it doesn't interpolate levels between them, either. Meaning there is a big jump in brightness from the voodoo lowest level to the DI18 lowest level, which is the next "notch" up on the slider.) It also adds a brightness level at the very highest brightness, which noticeably makes the display warmer. (The highest and next-to-highest brightness notches are the same brightness, the difference being the highest one is warmer.) At this point of its development, it's really of no use if you want to make your screen warmer at all brightness levels.
At any rate, the project leads me to believe that, with further development, we could have an app that allows us to freely change all the color settings for the display for all brightness levels, save them to profiles, etc.
The idea of the screen getting warmer as you decrease its brightness might be a natural phenomena, or just perceptual. In my experience, colors usually seem warmer as you decrease the intensity of the light. This is even true of light on a physical object.
My screen looks awesome. No yellowing or anything. I wonder if there is a difference based on who made the screen for that particular Galaxy S phone? I remember reading an article when all the Galaxy S phones started rolling out saying that Samsung was having trouble with the manufacturing of the AMOLED screens. Perhaps they started cutting corners.
However, there also seems to be issues with auto-brightness, etc...I have that disabled on my phone and the brightness set on its lowest setting (which is plenty bright for me and all my viewing needs) which may be the difference? But, I have cranked it up from time to time just to show others and I still don't notice any yellowing.
Is there a specific test image or something where one could view that would show/exaggerate the effect people are talking about? I would be curious to see...
Thanks for the great input and information.
Here is something interesting for the Nexus One screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745248
Never noticed any of the sort.
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I havent noticed it either. Had mine since day one
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Should help in this case once Froyo arrives
Here is a quick picture taken by a Touch Pro 1. Sorry about the quality. I can try to take better ones if there is interest.
From left to right - Evo, Epic, Nexus 1, Touch Pro 2. All with auto-brightness on.
In real life:
The Evo looks whiter (cooler)
The Epic looks much yellower (warmer, almost greenish)
The N1 doesn't look as pink as it appears, but looks the darkest
The Touch Pro 2 looks the whitest (coolest)
To my eyes, the Evo/Touch Pro 2 looks good. Although the picture shows the Epic looking pleasant and only slightly warmer, the white elements (clouds in wallpaper, browser backgrounds etc.) look yellow/green.
Edit: Notice the Menu, Home, Back, Search menu LEDs look whiter than the screen. See the contrast between the two makes the screen look yellower.
I've owned 3 Epics since launch day. First one had a good screen, 2nd one had a yellow tint, 3rd was perfect.
The build dates of the first 2 were 10.08 and my current one is 10.09.
arashed31 said:
I've owned 3 Epics since launch day. First one had a good screen, 2nd one had a yellow tint, 3rd was perfect.
The build dates of the first 2 were 10.08 and my current one is 10.09.
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By perfect, do you mean that it is not yellowish? It's interesting that the first two phones with the same build date has two different color screens...
The Epic I have has a 10.10 build date. It's yellow at dimmed levels and color temp gets cooler as it brightens up.
Well I used to cause a big fit about the N1's HTC would warranty swap me because of this issue. The first N1 I purchased didnt have this problem. I just bought the NS today and right away I noticed the same exact issue. Is it safe to say that maybe this should be considered a normality rather than a defect?
Its actually the Amoled tech itself...It cant reproduce whites perfectly so they come out cool....thats why its off a bit but in return you get exact blacks
Lcd's are opposite...you get real whites but no real blacks.
It shows up in certain shades of grey, like in contacts and in clock dimmed while set on lowest brightness setting. The whites and other colors display fine.
Yeah i saw that too but thats the OS thats doing that so you should be cool
Is it either on the bottom or top? I have watched a YouTube unboxing video clip says that when you browse with your nexus s to the top of the page, or the the lowest of the page, it will actually dimmed darker. This is to let you know you have reached the lowest or highest of the page. You couldn't scroll anymore .
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No, it has nothing to do with scrolling. It's exactly what I've said. Also I'm pretty positive its not a software issue. It's definitely the display. It must be either new materials Samsung is using for there displays or a calibration issue!
I also noticed this today, the purplish tint while on lowest screen brightness in a very dark room. If you bump up the brightness slightly, it goes away.
Nothin for me. No tint.
For me when I have the screen off I notice there is a purple tint to it compared to say a vibrant maybe that is the cause of you're problem
what i'm speaking of shows only while the screen is on.
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I also noticed this today, the purplish tint while on lowest screen brightness in a very dark room. If you bump up the brightness slightly, it goes away.
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This is right on the money. Same exact issue with my N1 and now i see it with the NS. I notice this on the N1's because my very 1st purchased unit displayed perfectly without any kind of discoloration after dimming the brighness below 50%. Soon after I warranty exchanged that unit for another, I recieved one with the tint issue. After I exchanged a couple more times, I recieved another without the tint issue but the touchscreen problem was much worse than the others i've had so i sent that one in. After that, i havent received one without the tint problem yet. I bought the NS expecting not to see this problem again and lo and behold, it surfaced as soon as i dimmed below 50%.
I checked out the demo phones, and every one had it on the lowest brightness setting. I think it has something to do with the new colors in the OS. If everything was black, it would be harder to see, so they use a little purple to differentiate when on a low brightness setting. You dont have to turn the brightness up much to make it go away
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I checked out the demo phones, and every one had it on the lowest brightness setting. I think it has something to do with the new colors in the OS. If everything was black, it would be harder to see, so they use a little purple to differentiate when on a low brightness setting. You dont have to turn the brightness up much to make it go away
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The issue I'm speaking about, it doesn't literally "go away" in the manner you might be thinking. Its just that certain shades of greys are affected by it. Here's how to test for it, goto a dimmly lighted area and set the brightness thru the power widget to highest. Next, goto the dialpad on your NS, and notice the bar topright below the menu tabs, it should be grey. Now go back to your power widget and switch brightness to lowest setting. Go back to the dialpad and look at that bar again. It still should remain grey no matter how I adjust the brightness levels, but instead it'll shift to a light purplish hue.
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The issue I'm speaking about, it doesn't literally "go away" in the manner you might be thinking. Its just that certain shades of greys are affected by it. Here's how to test for it, goto a dimmly lighted area and set the brightness thru the power widget to highest. Next, goto the dialpad on your NS, and notice the bar topright below the menu tabs, it should be grey. Now go back to your power widget and switch brightness to lowest setting. Go back to the dialpad and look at that bar again. It still should remain grey no matter how I adjust the brightness levels, but instead it'll shift to a light purplish hue.
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It's because of the amoled screen uses the pentile sub pixel layout. I thought this was well known. All Samsung amoled screens do this as the all use pentile sub pixel layout, which many people hate as the feel its not as good as the true 3 sub pixel layout screens. And It's true it is not as good, but I still prefer it over non amoled screens, crap pentile and all.
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It's because of the amoled screen uses the pentile sub pixel layout. I thought this was well known. All Samsung amoled screens do this as the all use pentile sub pixel layout, which many people hate as the feel its not as good as the true 3 sub pixel layout screens. And It's true it is not as good, but I still prefer it over non amoled screens, crap pentile and all.
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Yes I know about the subixel stuff with the amoled displays, but I have to disagree with you as far as all of them display this way. As I've mentioned before, I've had 2 N1's without this issue. I'm gonna go back to BB to see if they can open a couple so that I can do some comparisons.
As I said, mine is this way too, but went to 2 BB's tonight and checked out the demo models at each store. They both had the weird purple tint as well, on those few shades of gray, like you pointed out. I also watched the Engadget video review and could see the purples on their phone too. I think all the NS's are like this, just the way the screen is. Perhaps in a software update, they could tweak the colors a bit and fix it.
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It's because of the amoled screen uses the pentile sub pixel layout. I thought this was well known. All Samsung amoled screens do this as the all use pentile sub pixel layout, which many people hate as the feel its not as good as the true 3 sub pixel layout screens. And It's true it is not as good, but I still prefer it over non amoled screens, crap pentile and all.
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this is not true. i had to go around 4 Galaxy S screens and finally i was able to find one without pinkish color in it in low brightness.
if you want to tell if you have pinkish hue. download a solid dark gray wallpaper. turn the brightness to low. if you see it pink. then you have defective screen. i repeat. its a defective screen. dont justify your self with it.
i went through 4 galaxy S and i was able to find one where white is actually white and closer the the cool blue. not a friggin pink
and its not amoled screen either. the iphone 4 is same issue. go to macrumors forum and check for your self.
i went through like 6 iphones to get one with cool blue and no yellow tint in it.
the difference is light and day now when i compare my iphone 4 to my other friends.
if you have an OCD with this " because i do. i have OCD for light leakage, same black level the whole screen, yellow/pink tint on the screen in low settings "
the whole phone to me is nothing but a big screen. if they f*** that up. then its useless
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As I said, mine is this way too, but went to 2 BB's tonight and checked out the demo models at each store. They both had the weird purple tint as well, on those few shades of gray, like you pointed out. I also watched the Engadget video review and could see the purples on their phone too. I think all the NS's are like this, just the way the screen is. Perhaps in a software update, they could tweak the colors a bit and fix it.
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its not a software problem.
its hardware issue. when my phone with pinkish tint along with my brother one didnt have one, i thought it could be a software issue, and we even both implimented the voodoo fix : galaxy S : and still looked different.
its a hardware issue. and i really think you need to change your phone. because if you are like me, who cares alot about his phone, then once you see someone with a nexus S and you compare the whites and the gray colors on both phones. you will be one sad panda.
hell put the brightness up to the max even. you will still see the difference in white level between a pinkish/yellow tint screen and cool blue one. its not even funny :/
Yes I'm definitely OCD'd on this issue lol. I'm still not total convinced that this a defect yet. Ill be going to a few BB's today to do some comparisons. If I do find one without the tint, then cot dammit, shame on Samsung for allowing this to slip thru on these screens again! Ill report my findings later.
My NS suffers from this horribly on top of the bad touchscreen issues it also has. Def. a defective unit
Hi everyone,
I'm starting this thread to show you guys that not all Nexus S AMOLEDS are the same. I purchased a Nexus S on launch day from one store, and my brother bought a nexus S from another best buy store. We were comparing each others phones, and mine turned out to be darker than his, specifically the whites. We compared our screens at full brightness, and we set the same backgrounds, and his was noticeably better looking. So I went and exchanged mine, the new one I got still suffered from having darker whites, but it was not as bad as the first one, so when we compared them again, his was still better. I took a few pictures of the new one i got compared with his (on right). It may not look like much, but if you look at it in person, it's very noticeable when they are next to each other. I think you guys should compare your nexus s with a display model at a store, or with someone else to see what I'm talking about. I think it's easiest to see what i'm talking about if you look at the search widget. Like I said the first one I had was worse, but I'm comparing the newly exchanged one (left) with my brothers (right).
http://i.imgur.com/iAbJW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0wlmy.jpg
http://imgur.com/mtqCZ.jpg
http://imgur.com/k0deb.jpg
mine is bright enough for me. thats really all i care about.
tekkitan said:
mine is bright enough for me. thats really all i care about.
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I agree with you
It's like my mom says not everything can be 100% perfect
Yeah I know what you're speaking of. I started a thread here about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877497
I went through this when I bought dual monitors for my computer. It is nearly impossible to find two monitors exactly the same. You will not know the difference unless you keep comparing it to others.
momohammed20 said:
Hi everyone,
http://i.imgur.com/iAbJW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0wlmy.jpg
http://imgur.com/mtqCZ.jpg
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in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
tks989 said:
in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
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lol thats true. it made me laugh lol
download a solid white wallpaper. set the brightness to the highest. if one of them is cool blue white then this is good screen. if its warm yellowish white, then its a bad screen.
also there is the issue with pinkish disaplay. download a solid gray wallpaper. set the brightness to the lowest, if the gray turns to pink a little. you have a defective screen no matter what others tell you. if it stays gray " like my old Samsung Galaxy S " then you have a perfect screen.
AND there is also the grid pattern matrix you can see on the lowest brightness on the same gray wallpaper. ALL of them are more visible on the Super Amoled screens, just try to get one that is not very noticable.
if you got all those 3 perfectly " with no dead pixels or stuck pixels. then your phone worth alot.
i sold my galaxy S USED more than i bought it NEW because of these effects when i mentioned them to the buyer and he saw with his own eyes the difference. plus it didnt have single scratch on the whole phone so it was like a brand new.
nit picking, there basically the same
rashad1 said:
nit picking, there basically the same
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No one's nitpicking. It's a matter of what you're willing to settle for. I paid my 580.00 for a phone to display the colors correctly. I didn't pay that much for the display to change colors just because I lower the brightness.
rashad1 said:
nit picking, there basically the same
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it's hard to show what i'm talking about in the picture, but in person (picture was taken with iphone 4, so it wont show that much), it is very noticeable if the two are side by side.
tks989 said:
in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
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ya, after i took pics, i realized they were not on the same page on the home screen.
This is a very common issue on the Galaxy S phones too. Different suppliers are used in the manufacturing process resulting in some screens with warmer color temps, and others with cooler ones. The Engadget review of the Nexus S specifically called out a warmer temp by the way.
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Dumb question, but did you verify that the brightness levels in settings are set to the same values? Or at least compared the two phones when at the lowest and highest settings?
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Dumb question, but did you verify that the brightness levels in settings are set to the same values? Or at least compared the two phones when at the lowest and highest settings?
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ya, i actually made sure they were both brightest, and when they are both on the lowest, you can tell one of them displays brighter whites. But the first one I had was worse than the one I have in the pictures on the left, it's hard to notice that you have a screen that does not produce nice whites, unless you see another nexus s that does a better job.
I actually like the ones on the left, the ones on the right crush the blacks, resulting in basically everything washed out, even if it "looks" better to you, it isn't from a calibrator prospective.
The Evo 4G had the same thing going on with its display. HTC used 2 different Manufacturers for the screen, One Novatec, One Was Epson. I believe the Novatec panel had darker colors (warmer?) resulting in more of a purplish color on blacks (what ll_l_x_l_ll calls pink for whatever reason) While the epson didnt have any purplish tone, but most say had a washed out look.
I would say though that on the nexus S, probably 99% of them are going to have a little purplish effect on the lowest brightness setting. If the OPs brothers phone has no purplish color, that would be the first i have seen. Ive seen many many demo units, several video reviews, and even the 2.3 rom ported to other galaxy S phones, and they all have the "purplish" display.
All my whites on my phone are really white, and blacks are really black.
Only be concerned if your screen looks like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882862
That would definatley warrant an exchange, because they are NOT supposed to look like that.
My Screen looks better than his I9000 though too, but that could be his camera too washing out the colors a bit
Psosmith82 said:
The Evo 4G had the same thing going on with its display. HTC used 2 different Manufacturers for the screen, One Novatec, One Was Epson. I believe the Novatec panel had darker colors (warmer?) resulting in more of a purplish color on blacks (what ll_l_x_l_ll calls pink for whatever reason) While the epson didnt have any purplish tone, but most say had a washed out look.
I would say though that on the nexus S, probably 99% of them are going to have a little purplish effect on the lowest brightness setting. If the OPs brothers phone has no purplish color, that would be the first i have seen. Ive seen many many demo units, several video reviews, and even the 2.3 rom ported to other galaxy S phones, and they all have the "purplish" display.
All my whites on my phone are really white, and blacks are really black.
Only be concerned if your screen looks like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882862
That would definatley warrant an exchange, because they are NOT supposed to look like that.
My Screen looks better than his I9000 though too, but that could be his camera too washing out the colors a bit
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Yeah my camera isn't great, it was poor light but it was enough to show the difference.
My i9000 screen is pretty incredible, I'd be impressed if I saw one better.
Oddly though, you say that if it turns blue when the brightness is turned right up, it's a good screen - my Nexus S does that. But it's yellow when the brightness is low.
Personally I think I'm going to take your advice in another thread. I'm going to return this phone for a refund, enjoy using my i9000 for a while as it's now apparent that the screen is excellent (I never really had GPS issues either, so I'm pretty lucky), and go around stores when they have stock to find a screen that compares favourably against my i9000. I'm in a nice position that I can do a side-by-side comparison each time.
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it's hard to show what i'm talking about in the picture, but in person (picture was taken with iphone 4, so it wont show that much), it is very noticeable if the two are side by side.
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bazinga.
hit under the belt.
Why not load up Google site in the browser to do your comparison? That way its identical.
lol
So, I guess not many of you have ever messed around with the LCD monitor in front of you (if you have one).
Mine I can set to be a cool white or a warm white.
Here is the real problem... Your brother is smarter than you. You see, there is a difference maybe in the screens. But instead of him *****ing about it, he likely just said his was better. Thus leaving you with the **** screen.
The tables could have been turned if you would have said "HAHA your screen is broken, and mine is better" the second you found the screens were different. Then it would be him here all upset about the screen.
The things people ***** about on this form are just crazy. And no, I don't care about how much you spent on your phone. When you buy any product you should only have a expectation that it is usable, not perfect. And thats mostly because perfect is mostly opinion when it comes to things like this.
Also, this is a phone, not a pro display marked for having the most accurate color production.
What kills me most is the people who take phones back over and over for problems that only exist in their heads. All you are doing is raising the cost of phones and keeping them high for everybody else.