Setting the DPI on the device to 480 doesn't seem to have any harmful affect to stock Motorola Apps (Active Display was the culprit before)..
Anyone else see anything at alternate DPI's?
How are you changing the DPI?
Wait... you have root? How are you changing it?
No root... Just Developers Mode turned on and USB Debugging available...
Then you can do:
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adb shell wm density 480
from a computer ....
jeffreycentex said:
No root... Just Developers Mode turned on and USB Debugging available...
Then you can do:
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adb shell wm density 480
from a computer ....
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Does 480 get you 5 icons side by side on a screen? Also what is the native DPI for the x?
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I put Nova back on just to get the home screen reorganized. The stock icons are grandma like sized...waaaaaay too big. I may play with DPI later if I still want to change more.
Stock DPI is probably 640 like other qhd phones (G3 etc).
PiousInquisitor said:
Stock DPI is probably 640 like other qhd phones (N6, G3 etc).
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Stock DPI is 560.
teewhiskey said:
Stock DPI is 560.
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Everything must be really small.
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Everything must be really small.
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Larger or smaller DPI alone does not determine how small or large everything is on the display. In fact, an accurate DPI setting is what allows Android to draw things the right size, regardless of the screen size and resolution.
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Larger or smaller DPI alone does not determine how small or large everything is on the display. In fact, an accurate DPI setting is what allows Android to draw things the right size, regardless of the screen size and resolution.
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You should read this: http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
BTW, what is the right size?
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Edit N6 is also 560. The G3 really is an oddball.
480 is, in my opinion, a decent size. But it doesn't play nicely with SwiftKey. (if you're a SwiftKey user)
PiousInquisitor said:
You should read this: http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
BTW, what is the right size?
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Edit N6 is also 560. The G3 really is an oddball.
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See figures 2 and 3 on the page you referenced. They demonstrate exactly how DPI allows Android to paint display elements the right size, or as they say "appropriate size". BTW...read it long ago.
FWIW actual pixels per inch for the Moto X Style is reported to be ~520 by GSMArena. Actual on the Nexus 6 is ~493, same QHD pixels over a larger area. In all cases, declared DPI should be something close to reality.
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See figures 2 and 3 on the page you referenced. They demonstrate exactly how DPI allows Android to paint display elements the right size, or as they say "appropriate size". BTW...read it long ago.
FWIW actual pixels per inch for the Moto X Style is reported to be ~520 by GSMArena. Actual on the Nexus 6 is ~493, same QHD pixels over a larger area. In all cases, declared DPI should be something close to reality.
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You are correct. The observed size is a function of PPI and DPI. Hold the PPI constant and reduce the DPI and the observed images are smaller, hold the DPI constant and reduce the PPI and the observed images increase in size? RIght, or do i have that backwards? I cant wrap my head around what is the "right size" or "appropriate size" or "close to reality". Whats the reference? For example is the home button on the X the "right size" or is the one on the N6 or G3?
I set my dpi to 420, but the icons on the camera app got messed up.
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Jaivan said:
I set my dpi to 420, but the icons on the camera app got messed up.
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Due to some of Android's inner workings, the DPI setting should ideally be a multiple of 160. That's not always realistic since it should also be close to the actual screen pixel density. As a compromise, a multiple of 40 is often used. The Moto X stock setting of 560 is at 3.5 * 160, so results in fairly clean scaling when necessary.
If you are using the smaller DPI to squeeze more onto the screen, 480 should be pretty good, with the next 2 stops being 440 and 400.
I tried 440 and updated the camera app the icons work properly now.
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can yall post pictures of before and after please
Big bump here, sorry for that. I keep changing my DPI and even when I set it back to the default (560) Swiftkey and the dialer app look awful. My pictures in the dialer app looked warped and awful, and SwiftKey is unusable. Any ideas how to fix this? I really want a DPI of 500 but I don't want those two apps looking funky. And even set to default they look funky now.
Another bump.
Has anyone got the pictures for contacts showing ok on any DPI other than stock?
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The capability of changing my pixel density using LCD Density Changer was one of the last few questions i had before i jumped shipbto the shift. I figured that maybe others would have this question too.
I was able to change from a 240 to a 180 with no issues if i use the preview button while on temp root from VISIONary. I'm sure the other sizes will work well too!
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Why would you want to change the pixel density to less dense? Are you having a hard time seeing the text on the screen?
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Why would you want to change the pixel density to less dense? Are you having a hard time seeing the text on the screen?
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Its the other way around. By decreasing the pixel density I am increasing the amount of screen real estate.
Its like changing your monitor resolution from 800x600 to 1024x768. You make everything smaller so you can fit more on the screen. I tend to do this and then use adw.launcher to set my app drawer to 5 columns and have more then 4 application shortcuts across my desktop screens.
For my evo 160 was a sweet spot but on the shift its 180. Any smaller and you would struggle reading text or taping the correct space on the screen.
I hope you're not using Sense with LCD density changer. It's useless without being able to adjust icon rows and such.
cosine83 said:
I hope you're not using Sense with LCD density changer. It's useless without being able to adjust icon rows and such.
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Your exactly right. I am using adw.launcher dreaming of the day when I can put cm7 on and do the same thing with out the sense apps.
One of the biggest advantages of our SGS2's is the big screen. However a DPI of 240 seems to be the only option which makes the phone look like a toy. If the DPI is changed programs like Phone, Camera and Calculator are not displayed properly. There is a solution for this. Read this thread to fix Phone and Calculator:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14650421&postcount=38
Just push the apk's to system/apk
To fix the Camera push the Camera.apk to system/apk
TOP!
I'm very thankfull.
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One of the biggest advantages of our SGS2's is the big screen. However a DPI of 240 seems to be the only option which makes the phone look like a toy. If the DPI is changed programs like Phone, Camera and Calculator are not displayed properly. There is a solution for this. Read this thread to fix Phone and Calculator:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14650421&postcount=38
Just push the apk's to system/apk
To fix the Camera push the Camera.apk to system/apk
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great, will give it a try
Any for the actual touchwiz launxher?
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Why a DPI of 240 makes the phone look like a toy? Why should it be changed and to which value?
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Any for the actual touchwiz launxher?
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This would be most welcome!
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Why a DPI of 240 makes the phone look like a toy? Why should it be changed and to which value?
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DPI is just like the screen resolution you change in windows, the more the screen resolution the sharper the screen looks.
Similarly anything below 200 and less DPI in mobile makes things look smaller as if you have switched to a higher resolution.
Can you please attach a screen shots comparing default and the improved dpi?
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These images were taken in my galaxy i9003
You can see the visible difference between 240 dpi and 200 dpi
Hi, i'm planning to buy the S4 this weekend..
I see i allready can root the device.. Is it also possible to change to 240dpi? Or is it to early
Greetings
I tried to switch to 240 dpi, but got ui errors after a reboot?
probably, but not for a little while. wait until all the hacks are released, and enjoy it for awhile first. lol
240 dpi is optimal for s3 , as s4 comes with 4xx dpi by default, id suggest you to change it to 320 dpi which would be optimal
I read somewhere that the S4 comes at 320dpi just like the S3.
type R-blood
Hi bala-gamer is it you who did the 240/180dpi modded apps for SGS3? If so I cant wait to do it for SGS4 I was very satisfied with your work and with the amount information displayed on SGS3 HD display on 240dpi...
You can always use another launcher which works on 240 dpi and use an others keyboard i guess .
No I tried all of the "best" launchers on SGS3 and ended with touch wiz...and bala modified problematic apps to work...
Help me to understand what is the discussion here.
DPI? Isn't that a print value?
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Help me to understand what is the discussion here.
DPI? Isn't that a print value?
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DPI = printing
PPI = displaying
DPI=PPI moreless
but both means same = resolution of viewing doesn't matter the way
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I read somewhere that the S4 comes at 320dpi just like the S3.
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I don't think there is even a hint of truth to that. Its like 441 dpi
Provide a link if you've got one. . .
sharkeecz said:
DPI = printing
PPI = displaying
DPI=PPI moreless
but both means same = resolution of viewing doesn't matter the way
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But what is the point of changing it?
Icons and everything are displayed smaller so there will fit more info on the screen.
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Icons and everything are displayed smaller so there will fit more info on the screen.
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yes, this is the reason for somebody who need it
I have tried
LCD Density Modder Pro - hangs on boot
A build.prop editor - boots fine, but dpi looks exactly the same. When I go back into the app, it says 480 dpi... as if I didn't change it
Xposed - hangs on boot
Anything that works?
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I have tried
LCD Density Modder Pro - hangs on boot
A build.prop editor - boots fine, but dpi looks exactly the same. When I go back into the app, it says 480 dpi... as if I didn't change it
Xposed - hangs on boot
Anything that works?
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same here, any infos?
ah ok i've got it.
my problem was that i added a line on the end of the build.prop -> i had to edit the one that was already there.
I used rom toolbox from the play store and changed mine to 320dpi and it's worked fine for the last 24hrs...
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jongilluley said:
I used rom toolbox from the play store and changed mine to 320dpi and it's worked fine for the last 24hrs...
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what line did you change?
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what line did you change?
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Within rom toolbox go to build prop editor and click the search icon and enter lcd. It should return a few lines but one will be lcd. Density at 420. Just click that one and change to 320 and reboot...
Need to be rooted as well.
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So how does going from a pixel density of 441 pixels per inch to fewer PPI (I've seem people talking about 240, 320, etc.) make things take up less room?
If an icon was 441 pixels wide, it'd take up an inch of screen space at native resolution. Change screen to 240 pixels per inch, and now that same icon takes up almost two inches.
Wouldn't you want to change to some number bigger than 441 pixels per inch to fit more on the screen? What am I missing?
I know it is nothing new, but some might not know it yet. And frankly I think that changing the PPI is a tweak greatly enriches the experience on the Moto G 2014, since it has a nice big display but the only difference to the 4.5 inch 1st gen Moto G.
If you change the PPI to 280 from 320 the fonts are still nice to read but you get a wider grid (five icons per row) on the native homescreen and launcher and the menubars in different programs are smaller and you get a lot more screen estate in general. You should definitely give it a try, thus far I have not run into compatibility problems.
For a detailled tutorial how to do it go here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2h2sqy/an_extremely_underrated_power_user_tweak_lcd/
All credits to the guy on reddit, I did not want to type the whole thing again and copy/paste would be stealing, so
Mine was already 320 .... :silly:
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Mine was already 320 .... :silly:
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You have to change it to 280.
Good tweak, i liked the screen with 280ppi
Yeah, I use 280 DPI as well, so much more comfortable to use. You can also use Texdroider DPI to just change the DPI itself, makes the process a tad easier than the build.prop app that was suggested in the reddit post.
Did it with ES Explorer, simple and fast
I use mine on 240. Looks great and it is no PPI, its DPI
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Trublood_ said:
I use mine on 240. Looks great and it is no PPI, its DPI
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It can be both, dots per inch and pixels per inch , i prefer PPI, it's more funny to pronounce
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It can be both, dots per inch and pixels per inch , i prefer PPI, it's more funny to pronounce
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Hmm... But why does it say that we have 294 PPI and not 320 in specs?
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Hmm... But why does it say that we have 294 PPI and not 320 in specs?
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They aren't exactly the same thing, measurement is different, PPI is the correct and more accurate term for displays, DPI is more accurate for printing, it's complicated you know.
Any changes of display clearity
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Hakkinan said:
They aren't exactly the same thing, measurement is different, PPI is the correct and more accurate term for displays, DPI is more accurate for printing, it's complicated you know.
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I see thanks
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Is there a way to get the moto camera working with modified ppi?
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I know it is nothing new, but some might not know it yet. And frankly I think that changing the PPI is a tweak greatly enriches the experience on the Moto G 2014, since it has a nice big display but the only difference to the 4.5 inch 1st gen Moto G.
If you change the PPI to 280 from 320 the fonts are still nice to read but you get a wider grid (five icons per row) on the native homescreen and launcher and the menubars in different programs are smaller and you get a lot more screen estate in general. You should definitely give it a try, thus far I have not run into compatibility problems.
For a detailled tutorial how to do it go here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2h2sqy/an_extremely_underrated_power_user_tweak_lcd/
All credits to the guy on reddit, I did not want to type the whole thing again and copy/paste would be stealing, so
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Thanks, it works, but if you can replace the build.prop with custom recovery such TWRP, is not necesary root.
I attach my own build.prop (Lollipop from XT1063 edited with 2 SIM and change the DPI)
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Is there a way to get the moto camera working with modified ppi?
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I do this whit textdroider_dpi app from google play, its free and it works fine I use 300dpi and I have 6 icons per column
For those not in the know, DPI setting can be changed on Android devices so that you can basically fit more on the screen. I must warn you that sometimes some apps might not show up in play store as your device is treated like a tablet (for example) - although I personally never had a problem resulting from this.
To change it you need to edit ro.sf.lcd_density=420 line in the build.prop file that is located in the system folder. As long as you can get to that file you can use any text editor to change the line
The default is 420, I changed it to 320 and you can see the results in the attached screes shot. Don't forget to restart the phone for changes to take effect.
Oh you live dangerously.
Mine is at 360 and it's the best for me .
For other people; you can also change it without having to root by using adb.
Holy crap do you guys have Superman vision? I'm in my 20's and I almost had to squint for the 420 density lol.
Mine is currently set to 480, the default for the G2 which has the same physical dimensions for the LCD.
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Holy crap do you guys have Superman vision? I'm in my 20's and I almost had to squint for the 420 density lol.
Mine is currently set to 480, the default for the G2 which has the same physical dimensions for the LCD.
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You made yours BIGGER? Oh man that's crazy. Making the don't bigger wasn't working out for you?
I get "could not save file" tried with ES and build Prop editor, the file has r/w enabled to.
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I get "could not save file" tried with ES and build Prop editor, the file has r/w enabled to.
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Try using Root Explorer. I've run into issues using anything other than that for things like this.
I'm just glad Google added official support for 420. Looks great with all apps.
480
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I use 320 on my N5x as well. I accidentally set it to 220 since that was what I used on my N4 and I didn't realize the resolution was different. I would say 220 is at the bottom end of what I would consider to be usable. It basically fits what would normally be on a 8" tablet on a 5" phone.
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I'm just glad Google added official support for 420. Looks great with all apps.
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Agreed. At 420dpi I have no desire to make it smaller.
I settled on 440 and changed font size to large. 480 made the status bar too big imo. Some of my older apps have too tiny text for my aging 40+ year old eyes :sly:
420pi seems to be pretty solid for me, I truly wouldn't want it any smaller or larger than what it is at.
I use Nova Launcher to set icon size to 145% and system settings to set font size to large. Looks just right to me. Out of the box both icons and font sizer were too small and uncomfortable. Years ago I was an iPhone user and I'm sure I still have some of the DNA, lol. I fill my homescreens with icons - hate wasted space.
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I settled on 440 and changed font size to large. 480 made the status bar too big imo. Some of my older apps have too tiny text for my aging 40+ year old eyes :sly:
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I also think 440 is the best size. I'll probably need to resize all of my ROMs I flash. But it's not too much or too little.
I don't want to root my phone, but I definitely want to change my DPI a little
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I don't want to root my phone, but I definitely want to change my DPI a little
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You don't have to root to change dpi. I used adb. There are a lot of guides out there. It's very simple imo. Google "how to change dpi without root" good luck!
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You don't have to root to change dpi. I used adb. There are a lot of guides out there. It's very simple imo. Google "how to change dpi without root" good luck!
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Forgot all about that method. Using it now good sir
Does the build.prop method make all apps behave properly? I tried using the adb method, but I had a few apps which didn't handle it properly (not the least of which was the Play store).
440. That matches roughly to the same estate as Galaxy S4 - just a tad bigger (as I expected when upgraded 5.0" to 5.2")
I was psyched when my Nexus 5X arrived and I saw that the stock DPI was 420. For the past two years, I've been changing the DPI on my Nexus 5 from 480 to 420...