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Bad app. causing some unusual battery drain. How to diagnose?

As the title suggest, I recently download some games from Play Store. Usually I downloaded a game, turn wifi OFF and they play. However, this time i forgot to do so and just played the game (Angry Gran Run) immediately after downloading. I noticed the game went into a long Loading mode and suddenly strange ads from Play Store started opening. There was also a folder created in Gallery called PICS and it has pics of Chinese cartoon characters. After a few days, I deleted those few games I downloaded and cleared the PICS folder through File Manager.
Now I have noticed some unusual battery drain. For instance, in night, my N4 goes in Deep Sleep (all the sync wifi data etc OFF) and when I wake up after 6 hours..hardly 2% battery is lost (usually 1% is lost) and if Wifi is on then around 6-7% battery is lost. Yesternight i slept and wifi was on (all sync etc being off), I saw battery drain 14% in 6 hours (when I woke up). Also, I used to get over 4 hours of battery time. Now I am getting somewhere between 3 to 3-30 hours of screen time. Plus, the ram always used around 400-600 MBs MAX...now it has reached to 850 MBs.
Is there any app through which I can diagnose what app is causing the system run in background and drain the battery?
Phone Info:
Totally Stock. No roms. No rooting. Andriod 4.2.2
Games download were:
Angry Gran Run (this always used to run in the background) DELETED
Top Truck Free DELETED
Vector DELETED
These were the games I download and played with WIFI On...so I suppose they caused the issue.
Would appreciate any help in this regard.

You can install better battery stats and look to see if something is keeping your phone awake. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 CPU spy is also useful for seeing if your phone deep sleeps or not.

Ok i will try

Guys, can any expert please shed some light on this?

Grab greenify and disable apps.
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Hmm that requires ROOTING.. and I don't wanna root.

Only other thing is to disable apps within settings > apps. Any reason why you don't want to root? It's relatively easy to do and un do on nexus phones.

Thanks nikzDHD for your response. I know we can stop or uninstall app from settings > apps.. But how to know which apps are causing it to wake up all of a sudden from deep sleep. I installed BetteBatteryStats but couldn't get much from it :s..
This issue never persisted but this has occured recently when I installed a few apps. Now I really dont know out of so many apps..which one is causing this
Moreover, I am very much satisfied with Stock and don't find any cause to root it.

Go onto play store and download wake lock detector. Read the whole info about the app on the play page it gives you details that will show you your wake locks like how better battery stats does in an easier format to read.
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nikzDHD said:
Go onto play store and download wake lock detector. Read the whole info about the app on the play page it gives you details that will show you your wake locks like how better battery stats does in an easier format to read.
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Thanks.. Downloading it now.

You bought a nexus device and you don't wanna root. Lmaoo. Best joke ever.
I kid. I kid.
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Lol. Good that u r kidding but still I would like to add something here.
There could be numerous reasons for buying reasons besides just rooting. One of them is the fluidity of the device which is no match to any other android device.
Nexus is a developers device but its not ONLY for the developers. Mainstream consumers can buy Nexus devices and N4 has proved that. People buy OEM devices and root to get a nexus like feel. Besides, why would I root the device JUST for the sake of rooting?

Rooting offers many benefits, for example I root because I can backup my apps and such, can install adaway as I hate ads when browsing the net, for root applications like Root Explorer, to change the appearance of a rom, to stop apps from starting up and effecting battery, etc etc.
But as you mentioned most mainstream users won't have a clue on what rooting is and the potential you can do on Android.

filthykid said:
Lol. Good that u r kidding but still I would like to add something here.
There could be numerous reasons for buying reasons besides just rooting. One of them is the fluidity of the device which is no match to any other android device.
Nexus is a developers device but its not ONLY for the developers. Mainstream consumers can buy Nexus devices and N4 has proved that. People buy OEM devices and root to get a nexus like feel. Besides, why would I root the device JUST for the sake of rooting?
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There are many useful tools that require root and also you can root without flashing a ROM or kernel so the fluidity and stability of stock is still there. With root you'd be able to use stuff like greenify and titanium backup and other cool root apps. Its worth it...especially with a Nexus since its so easy.
If I were you to diagnose your issue get wake lock detector from play and try to disable some apps that are running in the background and see if you notice a difference.
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Just root and install a custom kernel and under volt it I know you probably don't want to root, but that's really what android. If in the future you decide to return to stock, you can un-root and lock bootloader

dia_naji said:
Just root and install a custom kernel and under volt it I know you probably don't want to root, but that's really what android. If in the future you decide to return to stock, you can un-root and lock bootloader
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I will.. with the passage of time. New to android so just learning and enjoying whatever stock has to offer. Once I get bored, I will definitely root it.:laugh:

Emmmm
?????

Its your news weather app try reducing its sync, and does battery guru even work? You've only lost 2% in 5 hours which isn't bad st all presumably it was on idle all that time.
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Ok. Thanks for answering. I am getting 4+ On screen time so I suppose Battery Guru may be a part of it. And earlier I use to lose 2% in 9 hours or so. Usually under 7 hours I use to lose 1%. And now, sometimes I lose 3 or 4%. I know this percentage isn't big but if we see, it has doubled in deep sleep. So this thing annoys me that there is some app that is causing the phone to wake up during deep sleep.

After installing Wakelock Detector, the battery life worsen the max it could. Overnight about 20% discharge. Woooo!
I deleted two apps.
1) Suspicious Apps.
2) Wakelock Detector
And the phone is back to its 4 hrs OST.

[Q] Battery drain. Any solutions so far?

Hey guys,
As prolly most of you I came accross some serious battery lifespan issues (during night I drains about 20% of battery and during the day I have to charge it every couple of hours).
Have you heard of any known solution to this problem apart from turning of wi-fi in sleep mode, lowering brightness of the screen etc? To me all of these are just reducing collateral damage while the real problem lies elsewhere.
I've heard that 4.2.1. android worked very good with battery. Is it possible to downgrade it to this version from 4.2.2. without having to root it and thus loosing guarantee?

anachronis said:
Hey guys,
As prolly most of you I came accross some serious battery lifespan issues (during night I drains about 20% of battery and during the day I have to charge it every couple of hours).
Have you heard of any known solution to this problem apart from turning of wi-fi in sleep mode, lowering brightness of the screen etc? To me all of these are just reducing collateral damage while the real problem lies elsewhere.
I've heard that 4.2.1. android worked very good with battery. Is it possible to downgrade it to this version from 4.2.2. without having to root it and thus loosing guarantee?
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I don't think you have to root to change builds. Of course, if you are unlocked, you can just go and flash a 4.2.1 ROM

If you're rooted than try a custom Rom, Franco kernel, or factory reset.
I'm stock, rooted with Franco kernel on the nexus 4.
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Seems similar to what happens with me, only sometimes though. Others is just fine dropping a few percent over night vs a few percent per hour. Not sure what causes it but it does happen. Best right now is about 1% every 30 min or so. Typically its much quicker than that.
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I do want to root things cause I just a few weeks ago bricked my Infinity...
How can I get 4.2.1 build back without rooting?

anachronis said:
I do want to root things cause I just a few weeks ago bricked my Infinity...
How can I get 4.2.1 build back without rooting?
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use the google nexus tool or wugs toolkit. instead of selecting the 4.2.2 build select the 4.2.1 build and select download and install factory rom.it will install the build you selected and will completely wipe out your whole device making it back to the day you bought it.before using any toolkit be sure to save important data from your device to your pc,nandroid backup,or any type of backup you use.its really simple.
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oh and btw. my battery life is superb.overnight it doesnt drop even 1%.maybe it could be an app that you have installed.i used to use dxtoolbox and for some odd reason battery life was poor.no longer using it and i get the most outta my n7.

Yup, I'm on 4.2.2 stock, rooted. I get days out of a charge. Lose maybe 1 percent over night.
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Mine just suddenly started doing this. I have been using AOKP Milestone 1, and then updating to the nightlies. But the power drain is huge. Even on the charger, it was charging for 6-8 hours, and is only up to 53%?? I have CPU Spy, and Better Battery Stats, and I can't see anything causing the massive power drain. It ran fine a week ago. Maybe it started with AOKP Nightly 05-21-2013. Going to try flashing back to the one prior to that one.

podagee said:
use the google nexus tool or wugs toolkit. instead of selecting the 4.2.2 build select the 4.2.1 build and select download and install factory rom.it will install the build you selected and will completely wipe out your whole device making it back to the day you bought it.before using any toolkit be sure to save important data from your device to your pc,nandroid backup,or any type of backup you use.its really simple.
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oh and btw. my battery life is superb.overnight it doesnt drop even 1%.maybe it could be an app that you have installed.i used to use dxtoolbox and for some odd reason battery life was poor.no longer using it and i get the most outta my n7.
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Where can I get these tools from? Play/Google Store hasn't got any of them in stock.

If you don't need it then set Wi-Fi to turn off when the screen is off. I lose 1-2% overnight that way
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anachronis said:
Where can I get these tools from? Play/Google Store hasn't got any of them in stock.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
another thing that is good for adb drivers is pdanet.http://pdanet.co/a

Is drain unique to Wi-Fi 3G Models?
I'm pretty new to android, but I started having this problem too after 4.2.2. It's randomly worse, and other than the usual workarounds you already mentioned, the one thing I noticed that's weird is looking at battery usage stats, the 2nd highest user (after screen) is sdcard app (which displays with an icon showing it's part of the android os, and usage varies between 13-14%). A Google tech tried to convince me that's the AT&T Sim card, but it's not, it started after the update to 4.2.2. Nexus 7 doesn't even have sd card capability...does anyone know what's going on? It seems to me this drain issue should be hugely affecting Nexus 7 users, and I can't find much about it. I'm not rooted and don't really want to 'cause I just wanted a simple little tablet to carry around with me, since the iPad mini isn't great yet.

[Q] ANDROID IS JUNK! (Battery "life")

Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)

You're never going to get zero percent battery use, maybe your expectations are out of line?
How much screen on time do you out of a full charge? And what's your %/hour drop when the phone is sitting untouched?
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Badgie said:
Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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google doesnt come up with a new way for android to suck more battery , YOU DO , note the keyword is YOU , now figure it out .

I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour

Badgie said:
I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour
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battery life is all dependent on YOUR personal usage, your personal setup, your personal decision to install whatever apps, and very much your phone/data signal. if your data/phone signal is only so so, then youyr battery life will only be so so. if you have things draining your battery besides for your signal and use, its up to you to figure out why. thye battery klife of my nexus 4 and nexus 5, actually, all androids that ive ever owned, has been wonderful. i get the same google apps updates as you, no less. so you have to figure it out.

OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.

Badgie said:
OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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jd1639 said:
You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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App updates come along. Play Store is set to give notifications and to auto-update. Some app updates don't give notifications and "Android OS" causes a load of wakelocks until I spot that the update needs doing and do it manually. Same thing happens on my wife's stock Nexus 4. We are both in the Uk on Three network and have good signal.
I have BBS but I need to see what it says when I get this app update problem. I will post my findings when I get the info. If nobody here recognises this problem maybe I need to look at what is similar between our two Nexus 4s. I know we both have WhatsApp and, of course, all the Google apps, both on 4.4.4 but there the similarities end.

Badgie said:
Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.

BMXJeff said:
Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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BMXJeff said:
Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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one more thing, you do not need root or to be rooted to run a custom rom or kernel. the only thing that root is need for is to change system files or to run root apps. but yea, you can get great battery life on stock.

I have been getting great battery life from the stock ROM after a few tweaks apart from this problem with updates. I have had a couple of other ROMs on this phone but went back to stock after the last couple of system updates. When I'm not having this particular battery drain then, if I leave the phone alone, I'm getting about 1%/hr battery drain. Also my wife doesn't want her Nexus "messed about with" and it helps if the two are fairly similar. Xposed is the big difference between the two.
The Defy+ is on 2.3 because I only use it when I'm out hiking and it might rain. The Defy is not easy to upgrade and 2.3 was where Android got good, so I'm OK with it, if that's all right with you.

BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.

Badgie said:
BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.
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That's nice
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jd1639 said:
You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h

Mashed_Potatoes said:
over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h
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i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.

jd1639 said:
You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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A stripped down ROM running only the bare minimum can greatly improve battery life! Just have a sift through some custom ROMs and you will find the ones that are tuned to do such a thing.
Also in reply to others here, the advantage of being rooted means you can remove unwanted system apps, underclock etc which if you're concerned about battery life would be quite important I would have thought.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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This is what you need to do if you want to persist with the stock ROM. I personally have used betterbatterystats with success. Use this to check wakelocks as these are often the cause of mystery battery drain. There is an old but useful guide to that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi

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PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi
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Me too. That was a difficult three years.

simms22 said:
i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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Not possible with the 2100mah that n4 has! I have the same set up and I'm getting 3h sot..

simms22 said:
i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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i never use data and i average 3,5-4h sot?

Lollipop Battery Discussion - 2014

I wanted to start a semi-general discussion about battery life/issues/bugs on Lollipop. I'm using the VZW 2014 X, but I'm sure that the Pure Edition discussion will be similar (especially now that we're both on 22.21.11).
The two topics I'd like to discuss to start are:
1. What's draining your battery most (and why is it Google Play Services)? Solutions/bugs? For example, today I'm seeing what happens when I disable Location Reporting (and not History, for now).
2. Does the usage percentage reporting seem off to anyone else? The percentages are always very small (I'm guessing maybe they're supposed to add up to the total battery drain percentage), especially the Screen. When I use mine heavily, Screen will never take much more than 5-7%, if that.
All that aside I have been happy with battery life--it's at least 1.5 times better than my 2013 Moto X. I get down to 30% or so after a full day, can push 3.5-4 hours screen on time, and normally projects to last 20-24 hours with moderate usage.

I've been using the 22.21.6 OTA on my Pure Edition for a little while, rooted with Greenify. Google Play Services is taking up the most battery, it seems. No Facebook, although I do have some other social networks (Twitter, Instagram). It lasts me a day although I don't have too much SOT on it. I think yesterday it went from 7:00 to 23:00 (16 hours) with an hour or two of SOT with 30% or so left. Not great but it suits my needs. That was the first day since I got it that I've actually tested a full day of usage, in previous days I had been either messing with stuff over USB (rooting and programming) or on a long road trip with my hockey team that pushed me to way heavier than normal usage so I was charging a lot. Can't really blame Moto for that, though, it was hours of SOT for sure.
Today I deleted Google Fit (I just wanted to see it, but I don't think I'll use it that much and I feel like it might have something to do with it) and am using a different locations policy by turning off reporting and switching from always-on battery saver to using high accuracy and only enabling when needed. It'll be an ongoing experiment to maximize the life but to me that's part of the fun!
I've heard good things about 22.21.11 but I'm disappointed that I'll have to wipe again. Hopefully now that I'm rooted I can use Titanium Backup properly, last time I had to wipe was when I unlocked my bootloader to root, and Helium (unbeknownst to me) didn't support restoring from copy/paste (copied Helium backups to my computer then back onto the device, but wouldn't recognize them for restore).

Skillinator said:
Hopefully now that I'm rooted I can use Titanium Backup properly, last time I had to wipe was when I unlocked my bootloader to root, and Helium (unbeknownst to me) didn't support restoring from copy/paste (copied Helium backups to my computer then back onto the device, but wouldn't recognize them for restore).
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FYI, in case Titanium doesn't work for you when/if you upgrade, I was able to backup my apps using Helium and then use adb restore to restore the data after I'd installed them again on the phone. Here's the guide in case it's helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-how-to-restore-app-data-to-moto-x-t2604423
Downside is having to restore each app individually, but I never even had to root the phone so it was pretty simple.

Hey at least u have root. Us VZW users are dying for some root in our lives.

fingolfin14 said:
FYI, in case Titanium doesn't work for you when/if you upgrade, I was able to backup my apps using Helium and then use adb restore to restore the data after I'd installed them again on the phone. Here's the guide in case it's helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-how-to-restore-app-data-to-moto-x-t2604423
Downside is having to restore each app individually, but I never even had to root the phone so it was pretty simple.
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Does Helium not work to restore the app data on Lollipop?

raptir said:
Does Helium not work to restore the app data on Lollipop?
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In my case, I was downgrading from 5.0 to 4.4.4 since the build I was on was missing incoming calls. As far as I've heard, restoring to Moto devices is not supported at all by Helium, but it may be worth a try on Lollipop.

fingolfin14 said:
In my case, I was downgrading from 5.0 to 4.4.4 since the build I was on was missing incoming calls. As far as I've heard, restoring to Moto devices is not supported at all by Helium, but it may be worth a try on Lollipop.
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From what I read it's only older devices. This thread, for example, says you just need the right drivers for the 2013 Moto X.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-x-2013/333316-moto-x-helium-backup.html

raptir said:
From what I read it's only older devices. This thread, for example, says you just need the right drivers for the 2013 Moto X.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-x-2013/333316-moto-x-helium-backup.html
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Could be. I can confirm that Helium did not recognize any backups for me on KitKat and it looks like the user above had the same issue. I haven't yet tested on Lollipop.
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fingolfin14 said:
Could be. I can confirm that Helium did not recognize any backups for me on KitKat and it looks like the user above had the same issue. I haven't yet tested on Lollipop.
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From what I heard the way I stored the backups was unsupported. I just copied them off my device and pasted them back later instead of storing on one of the cloud options or something. Maybe if I had it would be a different story. Now that I have root and Titanium I don't think I'm going to try again with Helium, though.

Updating on my trial today with Location reporting off: somehow, battery life ended up worse (need a large sample, I suppose). I'm on track for 2.5 hours screen on and 18 total hours on. Android OS had high reporting, just above Google Play Services.
Anyone else have experience tinkering with these settings? I may give it another day or two before turning off Location History completely.

Im on a pure edition X, newest update, and my battery life is ridiculous. Location on battery saving, NFC off, everything else on. Screen on adaptuve brightness. Heres the thread i started about it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/22-21-11-pure-edition-insane-battery-t2960474

qwerty12601 said:
Im on a pure edition X, newest update, and my battery life is ridiculous. Location on battery saving, NFC off, everything else on. Screen on adaptuve brightness. Heres the thread i started about it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/22-21-11-pure-edition-insane-battery-t2960474
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Looks like I'll have to get the -11 release and see how it goes. What were you getting on kitkat or 22.21.6?

qwerty12601 said:
Im on a pure edition X, newest update, and my battery life is ridiculous. Location on battery saving, NFC off, everything else on. Screen on adaptuve brightness. Heres the thread i started about it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/22-21-11-pure-edition-insane-battery-t2960474
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That's just unfathomable to me. I saw your post before I made this one. It's not as if I need 7 hours screen on time, but if it's possible then I sure as hell want it. I have brightness fixed just above the lowest, NFC off, location on battery saving, Location reporting off... just huge drain from Google Play Services and Android OS. I bet if I used the phone straight after unplugging I could reach 5 hours screen on, but it's the general/standby drain that's bothering me. I don't know what specifically would contribute to drain by Google Play Services aside from location reporting.

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That's just unfathomable to me. I saw your post before I made this one. It's not as if I need 7 hours screen on time, but if it's possible then I sure as hell want it. I have brightness fixed just above the lowest, NFC off, location on battery saving, Location reporting off... just huge drain from Google Play Services and Android OS. I bet if I used the phone straight after unplugging I could reach 5 hours screen on, but it's the general/standby drain that's bothering me. I don't know what specifically would contribute to drain by Google Play Services aside from location reporting.
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What version of google play services are you on, and how are your location settings?
I'd honestly never need 7 hours either. I really just wanted to push it and see. Yesterday I plugged in with 38% left, was off the charger for 14 hours and had 4:15 SOT. And that's normal/slightly above normal usage for me. Its just nice to know I won't have to worry if I need to use it more.

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What version of google play services are you on, and how are your location settings?
I'd honestly never need 7 hours either. I really just wanted to push it and see. Yesterday I plugged in with 38% left, was off the charger for 14 hours and had 4:15 SOT. And that's normal/slightly above normal usage for me. Its just nice to know I won't have to worry if I need to use it more.
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The latest--6.5.87 I think. I'm on battery saving as well. Dialer, Play Services, Google Search, Moto, and Motorola Modem service all report low battery usage. I turned Location Reporting off two days ago and somehow battery life got worse!
Also, I have Facebook and Twitter installed, but neither report high usage. Twitter syncing is also off.

Hmmm only difference is I don't use Facebook or twitter. No social media. But other than that, I use everything except for NFC. Google now. All moto enhancements.

qwerty12601 said:
Hmmm only difference is I don't use Facebook or twitter. No social media. But other than that, I use everything except for NFC. Google now. All moto enhancements.
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Do you have the Wi-Fi scanning always on setting turned on as well?

zjw18 said:
Do you have the Wi-Fi scanning always on setting turned on as well?
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Yes, I don't shut it off. No WiFi toggler either.

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Yes, I don't shut it off. No WiFi toggler either.
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Well, I can't think of anything else. Guess you're just a lucky bastard haha. Thanks for the info.

Gunna grab a Moto X as I have a Cyber Monday code. My concern though, is the battery. 2300mAh just seems too little. I own a SGS3, and it barely gets by the day.
To those who own the Moto X 2nd Gen, what are you guys looking at for screen on time and whatnot for an entire day? I saw the post about the guy getting 7 hours screen on, but that's without social media. I tend to be chatting continuously on WhatsApp and using Facebook quite a bit as well...

Turbopower Pack Doesn't Work Help!! New Moto Mod App from Nougat To Marshmallow?

Hey guys I just bought the Turbopower Pack mod for my phone but I still have Marshmallow and I don’t want to update to Nougat but the battery won’t work on Marshmallow. Was wondering if there was a specific app that makes it work like a new version of Moto Mod Manager or some sort of battery mod manager and if so can someone extract it and send it to me?
Easiest way to extract an app from your phone is File Manager from the play store go to apps and backup the app you’re looking for and it will back it up to a backup folder where you can email it or upload it to google drive or anywhere you want.
Thanks

hello, did you fix your problem? I have the same issue, can't use it because I'm on Nougat 7.0 and it prompt me to update the software but I can not do that because I have root so don't work the OTA updates..

lilloscar said:
hello, did you fix your problem? I have the same issue, can't use it because I'm on Nougat 7.0 and it prompt me to update the software but I can not do that because I have root so don't work the OTA updates..
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No there's no fix for it. Sorry
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If I had known, I would not buy it [emoji21]
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lilloscar said:
If I had known, I would not buy it [emoji21]
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I made the same mistake and gave mine away as a gift. Maybe you can get your money back on eBay good luck.

Why not just update?

sounreal said:
Why not just update?
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Because updating to 7.1.1 will bring the notorious battery drain issue on Moto Z that negates the additional battery power.

4334KZ said:
Because updating to 7.1.1 will bring the notorious battery drain issue on Moto Z that negates the additional battery power.
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While there is always a chance that things will go haywire when updating the OS, I'm running Nougat on my Z Force, and the battery life is incredible. Matched with the Incipio wireless battery bank, I can get up to 4 days of battery life easily. However, it's a function of maintaining a streamlined group of installed apps, and watching it closely. I have a couple of apps that I need, one is a bluetooth pet tracker, which I know burns the battery quickly. So, I just make sure when I'm done, I go to the app and kill it right away. But it's important to watch the battery usage list closely and see what's using the juice. I'm now 3 hours into my day and the main battery is at 98% and the Incipio is at 100%. By the end of the day, in Efficiency Mode, I'll probably be at 80% Main, and in the 80's% on the Incipio. However, I don't sit on FB or YT all day long, so your mileage may vary.
The point is, Nougat is supposed to be a more efficient OS than Marshmallow, all else equal. I would not reject doing an update simply because you are worried you might run into an issue. The majority of updates go fine. And, look into the battery mods - they are the greatest things ever.