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I was wondering whether any of the Moto X features are portable to Nexus 4 or they are just available in Moto X and has nothing to do with Android itself and thus will be the Moto X only features.
Thanks.
Don't quote me on this, but I heard that for the active screen to work, the Moto X uses specialized processor cores which aren't present in the Nexus 4. It commits one full core to just the speech recognition/active screen feature.
@Johmamahas a point, the Moto X does not use ARM at all what do ever.
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andyabc said:
@Johmamahas a point, the Moto X does not use ARM at all what do ever.
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Uh the moto x uses a MSM8960Pro (MSM8960T?) which is just a dual core version of the APQ8064 that we already have.
Source: AnandTech | A Quick Look at the Moto X - Motorola's New Flagship:
Moto does state that it uses it's own custom DSPs instead of the standard ones normally seen on snapdragons.
The part that might be the most interesting/differentating is what they use for voice recognition, as every other device pretty much does it all in software (which can be more battery expensive)
Moto's marketing is really trying to stretch the truth though, as if we use the same formula they used: the N4 is around "12 core" since the moto x is likely not radically different from your run of the mill snapdragon powered device.
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Don't quote me on this, but I heard that for the active screen to work, the Moto X uses specialized processor cores which aren't present in the Nexus 4. It commits one full core to just the speech recognition/active screen feature.
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I don't think it needs a whole core for the active display. What you do need is a amoled screen. Otherwise, it would kill your battery.
Just wait till it releases; a clone will be released on playstore afterward.
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The features are base on two hardware processor. There's no way you can "port" them.
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It doesn't actually matter which processor it uses in the case of the active notifications since either way they would be impractical on the n4's IPS display. The only reason it's a useful feature on the Moto X is that it has an AMOLED panel which means that any pixels showing black are effectively turned off from my understanding; thus it doesn't waste too much battery.
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Would you go and get the moto x? I did a 14 day trial with the moto x but returned it because I have to the nexus 4. But man am i going through withdrawl. What a great phone. Just not sure I can justify getting it if the nexus 4 is still pretty solid.
Anyone else's go from the 4 to the x?
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Why not get the nexus 5?
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Honestly I am sick of the bog phones. I want something that is a phone and not a tablet. But I have 4.4 on the nexus and it is awesome. I wish it was on the x
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Honestly I am sick of the bog phones. I want something that is a phone and not a tablet. But I have 4.4 on the nexus and it is awesome. I wish it was on the x
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It will be very soon... The scuttlebutt is, by the end of the month.
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I currently have a nexus 4. And I just bought a moto x. I can say the active notifications and size are just a few things I like about it. I'm with you on size. I like big screens, but I really really enjoy being able to use my phone with one hand easily and the 4.7 inch is a sweet spot. Plus that battery life on the x has impressed me with everyone's opinion of it. I hate my nexus 4 battery life. It's deplorable. So I look forward to getting the moto x.
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I currently have a nexus 4. And I just bought a moto x. I can say the active notifications and size are just a few things I like about it. I'm with you on size. I like big screens, but I really really enjoy being able to use my phone with one hand easily and the 4.7 inch is a sweet spot. Plus that battery life on the x has impressed me with everyone's opinion of it. I hate my nexus 4 battery life. It's deplorable. So I look forward to getting the moto x.
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You will not be disappointed.
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I currently have a nexus 4. And I just bought a moto x. I can say the active notifications and size are just a few things I like about it. I'm with you on size. I like big screens, but I really really enjoy being able to use my phone with one hand easily and the 4.7 inch is a sweet spot. Plus that battery life on the x has impressed me with everyone's opinion of it. I hate my nexus 4 battery life. It's deplorable. So I look forward to getting the moto x.
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I'm considering buying a Moto X. I have a Nexus 4 and I really dissaponted of the battery life. KitKat doesn't introduce nothing worthy to me, and I really hate the exclusive thing about software ond the Nexus 5.
It's a tough choice between a Nexus 4 and a Moto X?
Have both, far prefer Moto X, although if someone stole it from me, I would not be upset with having to settle for the Nexus 4.
If you're looking to settle with a phone for the next 2 years, Moto X by far. If you're looking for the flavour of the month for <$200 used, then Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 was the last of my Craigslisting days, and I bought the Moto X and I don't have any desire to go back to buying and selling phones rabidly.
Thank for the answer. As you say, I'm searching for a phone that last me 2 years or more .
I'm gonna buy the Moto X, then. Thanks again
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Thank for the answer. As you say, I'm searching for a phone that last me 2 years or more .
I'm gonna buy the Moto X, then. Thanks again
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Watch the PocketNow comparison video between the Nexus 5 and Moto X. He completely nails it. The Nexus 5 (and by extension the Nexus 4) represent the technological backbone of Android. While a great phone in its own regard, it's meant as a test bed for developers. The Moto X is designed to take that experience and make it actually useful for normal people. People argue that all the Moto X functionality can be achieved through 3rd party apps, but:
1) There are things physically impossible to do without the companion cores in the X8 computing platform
2) 3rd party apps aren't as fluid as Motorola's apps.
Google's influence on Motorola is very clear. Everything feels great about this phone. It doesn't have the specs to beat out other phones but what it does have is usability.
Not to mention the introduction of ART means that the slowest component of Android has been eliminated and maybe we will start seeing phone manufacturers follow Motorola and go back to using dual cores instead of quad cores because it's absolutely unnecessary. At this point in time, hardware improvements are getting more and more pointless due to the software limitations imposed by an OS that was initially pushed out the door to fight Apple.
I have both at this moment.
The only reason I am keeping N4 is the hope that it might get kitkat sooner than x.
X wins on every other aspect...particularly once I get used to the touchless control, it is very hard not to have it, not to mention the active notification.
The customization is cool...but honestly how much does that matter to your everyday life? Very soon I forgot about the unique back and accent. But these two features have greatly changed my way of using a phone.
I have the Nexus 5 and the Moto X, and while my initial disappointment with the N5 is fading, I still think the Moto X is the best phone ever made. I think making the switch from a Nexus 4 to a Moto X is a wise choice. Heck, I think switching from any phone to the Moto X is a wise choice. Nothing like it on the market.
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I have the Nexus 5 and the Moto X, and while my initial disappointment with the N5 is fading, I still think the Moto X is the best phone ever made. I think making the switch from a Nexus 4 to a Moto X is a wise choice. Heck, I think switching from any phone to the Moto X is a wise choice. Nothing like it on the market.
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To be honest, I'd say the iPhone is like it. Clearly not in the way the UI works or how the OS' compare, but the user-centered design ethos of both phones.
So, yes, I'm buying either of those. Which one do you think I should buy?
I'm going for the Nexus 4, but the Moto G has been getting alot of rave reviews, which led me to asking this question to get you guy's opinions.
Even though the n4 is a year old, its still a beast. What are your thoughts? Moto G or N4?
even I still have a nexus 4, I would suggest to buy a moto g! the price is awesome, the hardware (except the camera) equal or better, and the software will almost as fast updated as on the nexus 4
keep calm and push the thanks button!
Nexus 4 - hardware/updates
Moto G - Less better hardware then N4/Updates tend to be slower/Stylish
I've owned quite a few Android Devices... Will never buy a non-Nexus device after my experience with the Galaxy Nexus and my N4.
Actually the moto g keeps up the the GS4, nexus 5, and nexus 4...get a moto g,
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IF you ar eon T-Mobile then a nexus 4 with one of the 4.4 ROMS with LTE baked in is a bargain!
Ignore.. Guess I was wrong.
Some people are making ridiculous claim. The Moto G do not have equivalent hardware of the Neuxs 4.
First off the Nexus 4 is 3G pentaband, it work anywhere and doesn't have to deal with having two different global and US version like Moto G. It have that hidden Band 4 LTE support too.
It have a clearly faster SOC, at 1.5ghz and Adreno 320. The Moto G is slower at 1.2ghz and only Adrena 305. And the N4 have 2GB of ram instead of one.
Lastly, better camera. The 5MP from the Moto G barely cuts it.
Since KitKat is light you might not see a difference, but the Nexus 4 is outright faster.
There are some better factors for the Moto G like longer battery life and out of the box USB OTG support, however it lacks physical TV output. If these factors are important to you, then maybe the Moto G is a better choice. I think KitKat run so well especially with ART, and better battery life by itself may be the killer factor for some people.
However, on the enthusiast side, I am not really convinced with the lacking of roms for the Moto X. I would rather get a used Nexus 4 still at this point, but for buying it as a gift or regular Android users, then I would recommend the Moto G.
If you can possibly ever stretch your budget, get a nexus 5. But if you're strictly limited to N4 or Moto G, then I'd recommend the N4. The Nexus 4 has a slightly bigger screen (4.7inches) and VERY slightly higher resolution (1280x768). The SoC in the Nexus 4 is significantly much faster than the Moto G, don't rely on benchmarks such as Quadrant and Antutu. Use cross platform benchmarks to compare such as Geekbench (For CPU) and GLBench (For GPU). The Adreno 320 in the N4 is more than enough to power the N4 reso allowing it to keep up with devices such as the Nexus 5 and Note 3 since they're pushing 1080p. Customization is questionable for either devices, the question is, do you like a custom back cover for your phone more than a custom ROM & kernel? The N4 will have way more support for ROMs and Kernels. The cons of the N4 to the Moto G is that it has a Glass back, requiring more care if you want to use it without a case. Neither device doesn't officially support LTE, but as far as I know, there is a flashable zip for a custom radio allowing Band 4 LTE. In my point of view, I do not see a reason to go for the Moto G unless you prefer a smaller screen, ability to switch out the back cover for a different color and how it feels in hand (Moto G does feel better in hand, although this is just an opinion).
If you want better performance then definitely nexus 4 because it is still a very high end device. If you are not a power user, only uses basic stuffs then moto g is a good phone at really fair price.
lmao moto g = n4 hardware? ofc no,moto g uses adreno 305 as gpu and our n4 uses 320.its a notable difference in gaming performance.not in system performance tho.
Thanks everyone. Going for the N4. Regarding Moto G having USB OTG, you can get that on n4 with a otg y cable which I will be purchashing, plus a great case for it too so that it doesn't break that easily.
I was already on the heavy side of getting the N4, and you guys just affirmed my "thoughts". And the dev scene is just too good for the N4, which I think would never be that good for the Moto G.
And even if the N4 doesn't get updates after 4.4.1, either I'll get a new device by then or it'll be ported to N4 anyway.
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even I still have a nexus 4, I would suggest to buy a moto g! the price is awesome, the hardware (except the camera) equal or better, and the software will almost as fast updated as on the nexus 4
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thanks button for what ? for your ignorant post ? moto g has Adreno 305 and only 1 gb ram , nexus 4 has 2 gb ram and adreno 320 how is that equal or better
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So, yes, I'm buying either of those. Which one do you think I should buy?
I'm going for the Nexus 4, but the Moto G has been getting alot of rave reviews, which led me to asking this question to get you guy's opinions.
Even though the n4 is a year old, its still a beast. What are your thoughts? Moto G or N4?
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Buy the phone the suits you :thumbup:
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I am planing to buy a new phone, so should i go for moto g 2013 or nexus 4 ? I am getting them for the same price here in India, any suggestions any one?
Nexus 4 if u can take nexus 5
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The G '14 definitely has its pros (front facing stereo speakers and I'd bet the camera)
BUT our sleek glass shark (look up what mako stands for) packs 2 GB of RAM and a better processor, which is THE way for being future-proof. Plus the battery life actually isn't bad at all if you know how to manage your device.
The G '14 is newer but that doesn't mean it will be getting better support, and that 1 GB stinks.
Whoops, just read you were comparing with the 2013 Moto G. Well, no way. The only advantage over the N4 is battery life.
I've had the alcatel idol 3 for a few months. Its pretty much pure android and my first pure android phone. I love it, its awesome, but i want a bigger device and i'm done with other oems. Im not buying anything other than pure android for now on. So i'm stuck between the nexus 6 which in theory is faster than the lg g4, and the new moto x pure. I'd love to try out a 6 inch screen, im just fine with lugging it around but the moto x does have the micro sd card. so im hoping you guys can help me come to a decision.
I have the Nexus 6 and it is a awesome phone. I will never buy a carrier branded phone again. Pure android is the way to go for me. I am thinking about buying the Moto X Pure mainly because of the sd card slot and the moto assist features. Both are great choices.
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moto x if you want sd card
moto x if you use voice commands a lot.
the X's software enhancements are geared towards using voice commands
One day I hope that google includes these little tweaks into stock android down the line
Customization of "Ok Google' so something as simple as a TV commercial or my daughter on her ipad activating my phone.
When using a voice command to make a call, it automatically goes to speakerphone because most likely if you used your voice to dial you can't really hold the phone. (optional)
Say "what's up" and it will read your unread notifications.
Say "Find my phone" and it will start ringing so you can locate it.
The drive assist is probably my favorite. There are 3rd party apps that do similar things but none of them are refined as moto's implementation.
twist to launch camera
chop chop to launch flashlight
Camera software in moto x has burst mode and slow mo which the N6 doesn't
MicroSD
Nexus 6
bigger screen with amoled display if that's your thing
better GPU
stock android if you're not into the moto features
faster updates
bigger battery (not necessarily means better battery life due to other factors)
I have the nexus 6 and i've been waiting and trying my best to find alternatives to the features my moto x 2013 has and that's pushing me to make the jump to the moto x pure.
Don't forget about the camera, apparently the Moto X Pure is going to be a big difference.
If you want a big screen Nexus, why not wait till the new Nexus phones drop in about a month?
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I'm in the same boat! Want a Nexus 6 because of Project fi but also holding out to see if the Moto X Style (Pure) will work on fi.
I love my N6 its a great phone at least for me coming from a locked down Note 4 vzw. My reason for switching is the sd card and the better camera, the N6 camera while not the worse its not that great compared to others. Also the slightly smaller size will bet better for my pocket.
I think either is a good option.
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I've had the alcatel idol 3 for a few months. Its pretty much pure android and my first pure android phone. I love it, its awesome, but i want a bigger device and i'm done with other oems. Im not buying anything other than pure android for now on. So i'm stuck between the nexus 6 which in theory is faster than the lg g4, and the new moto x pure. I'd love to try out a 6 inch screen, im just fine with lugging it around but the moto x does have the micro sd card. so im hoping you guys can help me come to a decision.
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I've had both the Idol 3 and the Nexus 6. I'm hoping that either the Pure or Huawei Nexus ends up being a good choice for me. I like the lightness and thin profile of the Idol 3. The N6 is a brick by comparison. I'd love to have that weight and size in a more powerful phone that has the kind of ROM/kernel/root support that the N6 has. I'm hoping that either the Pure or Huawei Nexus matches my wishes. I like it that the Pure is almost the exact same size as the Idol 3, other than thickness. And at 5.7", the screen is only a quarter inch smaller than the N6's. I look forward to having a look at its display. The Pure should be faster than the N6 and it supports a Micro SD card, a very nice convenience. It has the benefit of similar technology, but a year newer.
I'd also wait until the end of the month to have a look at the Huawei Nexus. It's very likely to have all the benefits of a Nexus phone, a major plus when you get used to that. We'll find out how the details of it play out.
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If you want a big screen Nexus, why not wait till the new Nexus phones drop in about a month?
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Because they are the ugly ducklings
well amazon has the nexus 6 on sale (350 for 32 and 399 for 64) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R1984DI?tag=at88-20 I think I will like the moto x better
joshuadjohnson22 said:
well amazon has the nexus 6 on sale (350 for 32 and 399 for 64) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R1984DI?tag=at88-20 I think I will like the moto x better
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That's compelling for people who don't need microSD slot in their phone. Nexus 6 32GB is 100$ cheaper than Moto X Pure 32GB. That's very big savings! Not for me though... I want my microSD slot, better camera and stereo front speakers.
I would say go for the Moto X Pure. I have the LG G4 and I absolutely love it... but I'm switching to the Moto X Pure and am choosing it over the Nexus 6 simply because of the size fits more realistically, the camera is MUCH improved over the Nexus 6 and Moto Assist features take the stock Android experience to a new level.
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That's compelling for people who don't need microSD slot in their phone. Nexus 6 32GB is 100$ cheaper than Moto X Pure 32GB. That's very big savings! Not for me though... I want my microSD slot, better camera and stereo front speakers.
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Nexus 6 has a front facing stereo speakers also Nexus 6 has wireless charging that moto x doesn't. I had the nexus 6 before and i was really good but it was big, now i order it again because i got a steal on amazon on a amazon warehouse Nexus 6 64gb cloud white for 339! I already had preorder a moto x pure and gonna check it out and deiced which to keep.
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I'm in the same boat! Want a Nexus 6 because of Project fi but also holding out to see if the Moto X Style (Pure) will work on fi.
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Ended up getting a white 64gig Nexus 6. Yeah it doesn't have a micro SD card but I'll manage to get over it. Waiting to see if someone gets Google fi working on the Moto X Style Pure before unpacking the N6. If so, then back to Amazon the N6 goes