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I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S3. I am due for an AT&T upgrade early July. I was really leaning towards the new Galaxy S5 but then I saw that I could get a Note 3 for the same price. I am really torn. The advantages I see with the Note 3 are:
---32 GB hard drive space vs 16 GB in S5
---3 GB ram vs the 2 GB that the S5 has
---larger screen
---bottom speaker (which I personally prefer to rear speakers)
The advantages I see for the Galaxy S5 are:
---a better camera (though I would love to hear just how much better)
---easier to handle with one hand
---water resistance
---apparently a screen that is brighter and slightly more accurate
I would like to hear from those who have had both and would like to elaborate or mention more advantages with either device. Thanks!
First it's about size difference. If you dislike a big phone you better don't buy a note. Everything else is a lot better on the note!!! For the same price and if the size is ok for u I would even prefer the note over the s5.
I went to an AT&T store yesterday and messed with a Note 3 for a while. The screen is humongous but the Galaxy S5 isn't too far from the same size with a much smaller screen.
I've liked everything about my Galaxy S3 except battery life (I now have a 3500 mah battery) and heating issues when doing gaming with, for example, Minecraft, even at its lowest graphical setting. I just can't game for more than 15-20 minutes on this phone without it getting extremely hot. Screen temperatures easily reach 100 within that time span.
Yesterday, I played Dead Trigger on the Note 3 for about 15 minutes. The phone did get quite warm on the screen side opposite the camera. It wasn't as bad as my S3 but it was a tad disappointing. Unfortunately the S5 next to it didn't have Dead Trigger on it and so I couldn't do a "heat" comparison.
BTW, hearing a lot about GPS issues and some suggesting not to upgrade to KitKat. Has the GPS issue been fixed without me having to run a custom ROM?
Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks.
Capa1970 said:
I went to an AT&T store yesterday and messed with a Note 3 for a while. The screen is humongous but the Galaxy S5 isn't too far from the same size with a much smaller screen.
I've liked everything about my Galaxy S3 except battery life (I now have a 3500 mah battery) and heating issues when doing gaming with, for example, Minecraft, even at its lowest graphical setting. I just can't game for more than 15-20 minutes on this phone without it getting extremely hot. Screen temperatures easily reach 100 within that time span.
Yesterday, I played Dead Trigger on the Note 3 for about 15 minutes. The phone did get quite warm on the screen side opposite the camera. It wasn't as bad as my S3 but it was a tad disappointing. Unfortunately the S5 next to it didn't have Dead Trigger on it and so I couldn't do a "heat" comparison.
BTW, hearing a lot about GPS issues and some suggesting not to upgrade to KitKat. Has the GPS issue been fixed without me having to run a custom ROM?
Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I haven't had any GPS issues on the Note 3, but I wouldn't base your decision on the GPS anyway since it's a problem which can be fixed. Like I said before it's about your preference. Try to focus on the things you really need/want to see on your device and look also for different Android phones. There are so many good devices on the market and if you can wait there will be some more beasts coming in the next couple of months!!! Me personally god used to the size and smaller devices feel like toys when I use them.
From what I heard you need a better battery life and good gaming and over all performance. Something else?(music, camera)
Thanks for the reply. Battery life, no exaggerated heat when gaming, camera, very good speakers, and removable battery are the most important things to me. I absolutely love the HTC M8 but the camera and non-removable battery kill it for me. I would really love to have front speakers, but the other candidate, Sony Z2, has bezels too big for my taste.
I am waiting on more information on the LG G3 and this Galaxy Prime that I keep on hearing about. As mentioned earlier, I am due for an upgrade in early July and so I have time to really think about things but I like doing my research months in advance instead of last second.
I mentioned to my brother that I was considering the Note 3 and he said that is has reception issues---dropped calls, weak signal, etc. I googled it and there were some threads on the subject. Any comments on this potential issue?
Weak signals and dropped calls would be a network issue not really a handset issue
I came from a s3 to a note 3 and I'll never look back anything smaller feels miniscule now initially took time to adjust to the size of the screen but now I can't see me ever using a smaller device
Battery has served me well get a full day out of it no problem
You won't find a phone that won't heat up while gaming it's impossible to cool a device operating at full power without some sort of cooling mechanics other than heatsinks
Phone will take anything you throw at it and then some
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I own both. (I'm using my S5 as a glorified mp3 player these days, as the screen is too small for me.) Much prefer the Note 3.
The camera on the S5 is in no significant way better than that on the Note 3. I'm an actual photographer so I haven't used any of the filters, and I set everything manually, but in term of picture quality, both are rubbish in low light. In bright light they're near equal.
In terms of screen the S5 is smaller with a higher pixel density. You can only see it when you're about 2cm away from your screen. The colours are slightly more saturated on the S5. (That's a matter of preference, I prefer somewhat more normal colours. Mainly because I can't stand the ghastly Touchwiz colours on the S5.)
Each phone heats up whilst gaming. That's what happens when the plastic case serves as the heatsink without any other fan or coolant. Particularly if you're holding it. The more powerful the device, the more it heats up.
I have no issues with GPS on KitKat. It locks quickly, is stable and has no satelite loss. Call reception is also fine, any drops in signal is entirely due to the sometimes hilariously bad coverage of my provider. (I've nagged them about that. Repeatedly. In person, at their HQ, to the network manager. No luck.)
The S5 is a bit better at handling drops and bumps. The Note 3 is a bit more fragile, so if you lead an active lifestyle or you're clumsy, consider a case.
If you have the time, I would indeed suggest waiting for the S5 Prime before making your choice. http://www.sammobile.com/2014/05/09...ith-qhd-display-snapdragon-805-android-4-4-3/
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I own both. (I'm using my S5 as a glorified mp3 player these days, as the screen is too small for me.) Much prefer the Note 3.
The camera on the S5 is in no significant way better than that on the Note 3. I'm an actual photographer so I haven't used any of the filters, and I set everything manually, but in term of picture quality, both are rubbish in low light. In bright light they're near equal.
In terms of screen the S5 is smaller with a higher pixel density. You can only see it when you're about 2cm away from your screen. The colours are slightly more saturated on the S5. (That's a matter of preference, I prefer somewhat more normal colours. Mainly because I can't stand the ghastly Touchwiz colours on the S5.)
Each phone heats up whilst gaming. That's what happens when the plastic case serves as the heatsink without any other fan or coolant. Particularly if you're holding it. The more powerful the device, the more it heats up.
I have no issues with GPS on KitKat. It locks quickly, is stable and has no satelite loss. Call reception is also fine, any drops in signal is entirely due to the sometimes hilariously bad coverage of my provider. (I've nagged them about that. Repeatedly. In person, at their HQ, to the network manager. No luck.)
The S5 is a bit better at handling drops and bumps. The Note 3 is a bit more fragile, so if you lead an active lifestyle or you're clumsy, consider a case.
If you have the time, I would indeed suggest waiting for the S5 Prime before making your choice. http://www.sammobile.com/2014/05/09...ith-qhd-display-snapdragon-805-android-4-4-3/
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That is exactly how I compare the two devices just a lot more detailed lol.
In September/October should be the note 4 release and if I wouldn't have the note 3 now I would definitely wait. (I will probably still upgrade cause of my cell phone interest/addiction)
Guys, thanks for the replies and, Shadow Lea, thanks for the detailed comparison! I'm sure that it is close, but which one would you say has better battery life?
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Guys, thanks for the replies and, Shadow Lea, thanks for the detailed comparison! I'm sure that it is close, but which one would you say has better battery life?
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I myself have always found the note series vs the s series that the note had way better battery life and camera wise your photos will about the same but since you due in July wait for note 4 or the s5 prime
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Guys, thanks for the replies and, Shadow Lea, thanks for the detailed comparison! I'm sure that it is close, but which one would you say has better battery life?
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I'd say they're fairly even matched. The S5 is smaller, but has a smaller battery. I do feel my Note 3 lasts a bit longer, but maybe because I put more effort into extending the batterylife.
I am seeking some clarity. Exactly which Snapdragon 800 chipset is in the AT&T Galaxy Note 3? This article assumes that it is the variant with ram clocked at 933 MHz and the GPU at 550 MHz:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/snapdragon-801-performance-xperia-z2,3777-3.html
However, I've seen articles that have the ram at 800 MHz and the GPU at 450 MHz. Which is correct?
Don't buy the current S5 as Samsung is going to release a better version of it with a better chipset and more RAM and Quad HD display. The Note 3 is just as good for photos, has the S-Pen, speakers at the bottom as stated before, 128 GB Micro SD slot, same screen resolution, more RAM, and almost the same processor speed. W/ the S5, you're just getting features the Note 3 will get sometime later in the year, waterproofing (case can solve that w/ good research), and an easier device to carry around. People joke about my Note 3 a bit saying it's too big, but I honestly don't care because most people use that crappy iPhone 4S or something miniscule.
IMO just wait for the Note 4 right now.
First off - prefer the Note 3 because of the larger screen, however one thing that the others haven't mentioned is that the S5 comes with Kitkat which has restricted access to the SD card. The note 3 might still come with android 4.3 (if you are lucky) which allowed full access to the SD card. Obviously if you don't use the SD card than this is of no interest however if you do then, to me, this is a really important issue. Fortunately I jusy got my phone on a two year contract so I have at least 19 months before I have to worry! (as long as I don't press the firmware upgrade button by mistake!) Hope Google put something better in place in android 4.5 or android 5 or reverse this stupid decision.
What restriction r u talking about? I'm on kk.
@op if you get the chance compare it hands on. I heard a lot of people disliking the size of a note!!! It is most important that u like your phone and feel comfortable or else u regret spending money on it and start threats about strange issues u have in the forum Good luck with your decision. And as I said before at least wait for the note 4 if the screen size isn't a problem.
Google kitkat sd card issues tons of complaints. Someone has even started a petition. Although you can save your photos and music to the sd card all apps must save to a single app specific directory and are not allowed to write to other directories. E.g.take a photo with your phone them try and edit it with another programme. Because you aren't allowed to save it to the original directory you will end up with two copies in different locations. Also when you uninstall an app any data on the sd card will be deleted! Right pain in the ...neck!
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Google kitkat sd card issues tons of complaints. Someone has even started a petition. Although you can save your photos and music to the sd card all apps must save to a single app specific directory and are not allowed to write to other directories. E.g.take a photo with your phone them try and edit it with another programme. Because you aren't allowed to save it to the original directory you will end up with two copies in different locations. Also when you uninstall an app any data on the sd card will be deleted! Right pain in the ...neck!
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Seriously the SD card issue isn't a big deal. The only problem is for old apps. But if you're using a new device, you should download apps that are optimized for your OS instead of running old apps anyways.
If the developer didn't bother with an update for a big permission change then obviously it's a sign that you should find a new app because If the app was like a banking app or something related to work, and they didn't update to 4.4 permissions, then how would you rely on them when a huge exploit for the app is released which leaked all your passwords and vital information?
Rooting allows for you to bypass this, but in all honesty, the play store is filled with new apps that always get updated weekly (especially File sharing apps) and you should use those instead. I understand not everyone can do this, but by choosing to buy a 4.4 device (even if you did an update you should have read up about changes), you automatically assume 4.4 features to be what you will live with.
It's ok. I bought a 4.3 device and read about the changes in 4.4 so I haven't updated. Personally I wanted my phone and next tablet to replace a Windows PC. Android 4.4 won't work for me. So I'll stay on 4.3 until warranty is up then upgrade and root. Next tablet will be a windows 8 not android.
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It's ok. I bought a 4.3 device and read about the changes in 4.4 so I haven't updated. Personally I wanted my phone and next tablet to replace a Windows PC. Android 4.4 won't work for me. So I'll stay on 4.3 until warranty is up then upgrade and root. Next tablet will be a windows 8 not android.
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I would definitely wait with win 8 tablets. The most r crap and the good ones r waaaay 2 overpriced. Know the win cycle one software good one bad... Windows 7 was good Vista bad XP good... Think about it
I was wondering if there are any Nexus 6P owners who came from a Note 4? I'm currently running CM12.1 since TW is just ugly bloatware. I just ordered a 6p with 128gb since I'm used to the SD slot on my note 4 and need plenty of storage. I'm now having doubts if I'm making a mistake after seeing one here at work today. The phone is great but the camera isn't as good as the one with the Note 4. I have shaky hands and IS really helps. I can get used to not having a stylus. What pushed me more than anything else is my issues with sprint. Since Project FI combines two networks I should have a better experience. This would also mean leaving the unlimited data package I'm grandfathered in but if in most places it's a struggle to have a good data connection then what's the point.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Rey
I came from a Note 4 with CM 12.1, same as you. I literally never used the stylus so that was a non issue. With cloud storage like google drive, I struggle to see the need for SD cards and it never really factored into the equation for me. Music gets uploaded to google play, large files go to google drive, and photos/videos sync with google photos so I can delete them on the phone over time. I pretty much only used the SD card on the Note 4 to have backup images and rom files so I could wipe and reflash without a computer. With the Nexus, custom roms are unnecessary for me so that's a non issue.
The camera had OIS which was a plus, but the only plus. The 6P's camera is superior in every other way, and I haven't taken many shots yet, but even in low light, the OIS seems unnecessary for this camera. It would benefit in video though...no doubt.
I grew tired of dealing with broken roms. Even CM 12.1 being as stable as it was wasn't without some minor issues. Having the absolute best to offer that Google can come up with as far as OS updates and timeliness was the draw for the 6P for me, and I couldn't be happier with that decision.
Like you, what prompted me to decide to make the switch was switching carriers. T-Mobile absolutely blew for coverage. Verizon's 18 gb plan for 100 was a pretty damn good deal and while I lost my unlimited data plan with T-mobile, I'm paying less on Verizon now and I no longer wonder why the hell I have 4 bars of LTE signal yet can't get the mobile network to send anything. As you said, what good is unlimited data if you can't get coverage, and when you do, can't get the mobile network to work right.
Thank you for replying. Being on sprint there are areas that are real good but others that are just terrible. Then there are areas where T-Mobile is great. I'm hoping being on project Fi, the combo of Sprint,T-Mobile and wifi access points will make a solid improvement. It's still not Verizon but must be better than having sprint alone. Also the positive with the Nexus 6p is that I think I could always go to someone else like verizon with this phone and connect it there. Right now it seems like Sprint doesn't plan to carry the 6p.
The rear camera even with less pixels and no IS seems better to you in your experience? Again thank you for the reply above. :highfive:
Came from the note 4 and completely disagree about the camera, the 6p destroys it as far as I am concerned. Battery life is far superior for me, I could barely make it half a day on my damn note 4. I unplugged my 6p yesterday at 5pm and with it only being my second day with it I am still very heavily using it to toy around with and such, anyways unplugged it at 5 with full battery, by 2am I was at 65 and now at 10am the next day I still have 44% without plugging it in at all yet. Combine all that with the fact that I could not root mine because it was from VZW and none dev edition leaves me with being very very happy with this switch.
I compared my wife's note 4 and mine 6p camera and I think the 6p looks better. We were taking the same exact pictures and uploading it to a computer for viewing.
Thanks guys for the replies! Appreciate the input. It's also great that I have 14 days to decide if I like the phone or not.
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Came from the note 4 and completely disagree about the camera, the 6p destroys it as far as I am concerned. Battery life is far superior for me, I could barely make it half a day on my damn note 4. I unplugged my 6p yesterday at 5pm and with it only being my second day with it I am still very heavily using it to toy around with and such, anyways unplugged it at 5 with full battery, by 2am I was at 65 and now at 10am the next day I still have 44% without plugging it in at all yet. Combine all that with the fact that I could not root mine because it was from VZW and none dev edition leaves me with being very very happy with this switch.
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Same here. When I took this thing off of the charger at 100% & got to work & noticed it was still 100% or maybe 99%, I was amazed. My Note 4 would have been at like 90% or less already. When I leave the phone for the night at say 50% & wake up, it barely moves overnight. Can't say the same with the Note 4. I have yet to fully test the battery, but the first day of use was heavy, & by bed time it was 48%. I also had it unplugged from the wall the prior day since 3 or 4am.
The usb c is nice for the fact I just plug it in & I'm not trying to figure out how the cable goes in.
The non bloat is huge. When I booted the phone Sunday for the first time, I was like.. Where are all of the apps? Oh wait, this is pure Android. The Verizon Note 4 has so many extra apps & processes running, it's a joke. What I have loaded on this phone is what I want. Not what Verizon forced on me.
Fyi, I had a non Dev Note 4. While I did use the pen some, all of these bonuses outweigh the pen.
Plus I feel the phone is much snappier.
Not to mention I haven't even unlocked and rooted yet.
So with that said, I won't be going back. And thats just a few things. I haven't even tested the speakers, really used the camera, or set up the fingerprint scanner.
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Just got my 128gb 6P yesterday and I'm also coming from a Sprint Note 4 (with 128gb microSD). I was also runnig CM12.1 on it which was definitely nice compared to Touchwiz. In any case, just from short usage of it its defintely a great improvement over the Note 4. I find that the camera wasnt that good on Note 4 with CM12.1, it was slow. Almost went back to Touchwiz because of it. Battery life wasnt that great either on Note 4 and I would always swap batteries when I got home from work. I'll miss the ability to swap batteries though. Camera is awesome, screen is awesome (better than Note 4). Always felt the Note 4 had a nice screen but after having them side by side, 6P is way nicerrr. Never cared for the fingerprint on the Note 4 but 6P is a joy to use. Bluetooth audio in the car sounds better too.
I moved from a note 3 to the 6p. So far I am happy with my choice. I honestly thought I was going to miss the wireless charging/SD card slot a lot more, but I actually don't.
The type c usb charger with doze make it so that I don't even bother to charge my phone at night anymore. I typically plug my phone in while I am using my computer at work even if it's just responding to e-mails. By the time I'm done responding I already have several more hours of use.
As for storage I haven't really run into an issue with it. The only potential is when I want to save movies on my phone so I don't have to stream them, but then again I still have over 80 gb to work with even after moving my photos and music library. To be honest I could just take the few seconds to delete a few movies once I get bored of them instead of letting them pile up. The transfer rates are quick so it's not a problem if I miss a movie and want to put it back on my phone again.
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I moved from a note 3 to the 6p. So far I am happy with my choice. I honestly thought I was going to miss the wireless charging/SD card slot a lot more, but I actually don't.
The type c usb charger with doze make it so that I don't even bother to charge my phone at night anymore. I typically plug my phone in while I am using my computer at work even if it's just responding to e-mails. By the time I'm done responding I already have several more hours of use.
As for storage I haven't really run into an issue with it. The only potential is when I want to save movies on my phone so I don't have to stream them, but then again I still have over 80 gb to work with even after moving my photos and music library. To be honest I could just take the few seconds to delete a few movies once I get bored of them instead of letting them pile up. The transfer rates are quick so it's not a problem if I miss a movie and want to put it back on my phone again.
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Lol I am in the same boat from my note 4. I am so used to having to plug in every night no matter what. I actually make a point of not plugging it in and it's honestly amazing being able to do that. Being on call 24/7 I need to know I can depend on this phone to last and so far it is doing quite well. I don't think I will make a habit of not charging it at night because I shouldn't possibly put myself in a bad spot by having not charged and then not being able to for awhile. But for now it's giving me a ton of confidence in it. Hell my battery is now at 42 percent so I only lost 2 percent in an hour with notifications going off and checking the phone.
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Lol I am in the same boat from my note 4. I am so used to having to plug in every night no matter what. I actually make a point of not plugging it in and it's honestly amazing being able to do that. Being on call 24/7 I need to know I can depend on this phone to last and so far it is doing quite well. I don't think I will make a habit of not charging it at night because I shouldn't possibly put myself in a bad spot by having not charged and then not being able to for awhile. But for now it's giving me a ton of confidence in it. Hell my battery is now at 42 percent so I only lost 2 percent in an hour with notifications going off and checking the phone.
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For your situation I would plug it in as you said, but it's been super nice not having to plug it in at night. Just set it down and off to dream land I go just like wireless charging, but without the pad (my night stand looks a lot cleaner now). All phones should have doze once every phone updates to project M right? And the note 4 also has quick charge? So from a battery beneficial stand point I guess the 6p doesn't have much over the note 4. (The battery is bigger, but the phone eats more).
The only thing I miss about the Note4 are the roms by @ZION959 ; truly an amazing developer! I almost kept the device just because of his rom support. :good:
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I was wondering if there are any Nexus 6P owners who came from a Note 4? I'm currently running CM12.1 since TW is just ugly bloatware. I just ordered a 6p with 128gb since I'm used to the SD slot on my note 4 and need plenty of storage. I'm now having doubts if I'm making a mistake after seeing one here at work today. The phone is great but the camera isn't as good as the one with the Note 4. I have shaky hands and IS really helps. I can get used to not having a stylus. What pushed me more than anything else is my issues with sprint. Since Project FI combines two networks I should have a better experience. This would also mean leaving the unlimited data package I'm grandfathered in but if in most places it's a struggle to have a good data connection then what's the point.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Rey
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I came from a Note 4 with CM 12.1, same as you. I literally never used the stylus so that was a non issue. With cloud storage like google drive, I struggle to see the need for SD cards and it never really factored into the equation for me. Music gets uploaded to google play, large files go to google drive, and photos/videos sync with google photos so I can delete them on the phone over time. I pretty much only used the SD card on the Note 4 to have backup images and rom files so I could wipe and reflash without a computer. With the Nexus, custom roms are unnecessary for me so that's a non issue.
The camera had OIS which was a plus, but the only plus. The 6P's camera is superior in every other way, and I haven't taken many shots yet, but even in low light, the OIS seems unnecessary for this camera. It would benefit in video though...no doubt.
I grew tired of dealing with broken roms. Even CM 12.1 being as stable as it was wasn't without some minor issues. Having the absolute best to offer that Google can come up with as far as OS updates and timeliness was the draw for the 6P for me, and I couldn't be happier with that decision.
Like you, what prompted me to decide to make the switch was switching carriers. T-Mobile absolutely blew for coverage. Verizon's 18 gb plan for 100 was a pretty damn good deal and while I lost my unlimited data plan with T-mobile, I'm paying less on Verizon now and I no longer wonder why the hell I have 4 bars of LTE signal yet can't get the mobile network to send anything. As you said, what good is unlimited data if you can't get coverage, and when you do, can't get the mobile network to work right.
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Came from the note 4 and completely disagree about the camera, the 6p destroys it as far as I am concerned. Battery life is far superior for me, I could barely make it half a day on my damn note 4. I unplugged my 6p yesterday at 5pm and with it only being my second day with it I am still very heavily using it to toy around with and such, anyways unplugged it at 5 with full battery, by 2am I was at 65 and now at 10am the next day I still have 44% without plugging it in at all yet. Combine all that with the fact that I could not root mine because it was from VZW and none dev edition leaves me with being very very happy with this switch.
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I compared my wife's note 4 and mine 6p camera and I think the 6p looks better. We were taking the same exact pictures and uploading it to a computer for viewing.
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Just got my 128gb 6P yesterday and I'm also coming from a Sprint Note 4 (with 128gb microSD). I was also runnig CM12.1 on it which was definitely nice compared to Touchwiz. In any case, just from short usage of it its defintely a great improvement over the Note 4. I find that the camera wasnt that good on Note 4 with CM12.1, it was slow. Almost went back to Touchwiz because of it. Battery life wasnt that great either on Note 4 and I would always swap batteries when I got home from work. I'll miss the ability to swap batteries though. Camera is awesome, screen is awesome (better than Note 4). Always felt the Note 4 had a nice screen but after having them side by side, 6P is way nicerrr. Never cared for the fingerprint on the Note 4 but 6P is a joy to use. Bluetooth audio in the car sounds better too.
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Hi Guys im sort of in the same situation. Had some issues with my Note 4 so was looking to pick up a 6p. Main concern right now is that on my OnePlus One capturing images is very slow. 4-5 second delay before picture is taken. Im wondering does the 6p have this same issue as well ? Basically is there delay when clicking the button and image is captured. For me the note 4 is almost instantaneous and i like that a lot especially for fast moving subject matter. would appreciate your input.
Using my friend's 6p I find it to be as fast as the Note 4 with the camera if not faster.
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The only thing I miss about the Note4 are the roms by @ZION959 ; truly an amazing developer! I almost kept the device just because of his rom support. :good:
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ZION did do a great job. Too bad CM12.1 has some bugs that annoy me like the LTE bug with texts. I don't know if my issues with LTE connectivity are also related to CM12.1 or if it's the Note 4 radio. I've also noticed development is seriously slowing down for the sprint's version of the Note 4. Nexus 6p is really picking up in this area.
I'm coming from a Note 4 running firekat and I got a 128GB Frost because I take a lot of pictures and my data is limited (for cloud storage use) cuz in Canada they kill us with the data charges.
When the Nexus 6p was released, I wondered if moving to a Nexus was kind of a lateral move, when looking at a spec sheet it's pretty similar.
But after having this phone for about a week, I have zero regrets. the 6P was an amazing successor to the note 4 which I loved and showed off
Here's what I was concerned with vs how it turned out:
S-pen features, I didn't use it too often but when I did I loved it, being able to share specific parts of the screen via the lasso tool was awesome, and being able to highlight easily words or numbers on chrome or apps.
How it turned out: I just take Screenshots (power button + lower volume button) and because the nexus is pretty fast I can just go into the photos app and crop what I want within a few seconds. and as far as highlighting specific words, the nexus does a really good job at recognizing and limiting the highlight to exactly one word at a time with those extension quotes that can be moved. It also shows a menu right away that lets you copy etc.
Camera Quality - Megapixels and OIS on the Note 4 vs lower Megapixels and no OIS
How it turned out: I compared side by side a few shots before I sold my note 4 and man there was a noticeable difference in how much better the 6P was. the colors were more accurate, the subject was more defined and lowlight pictures were so much nicer. even for the selfie camera, my wife used to complain that the camera made her look way lighter than she actually is to a point where she'd look vampireish but this camera both front and back she loves because it's pretty accurate on color. As far as OIS goes, for pictures, I don't need it. I snap at least 3 shots every time I take a picture and although 1 may end up being blurry, the other two are always clear. For video, I hardly take em anyway but that is a very noticable difference. the OIS was necessary to have especially when I compared it to my friend's iPhone 6Splus. My hands are pretty steady but the 6P still has pretty shaky video.
No Home button or menu/back buttons + On screen navigation
How it turned out: I really thought I would notice this change more because I was very used to having those buttons from having Samsung products for almost 4 years but I got used to not having a physical button surprisingly quick. I'd say in maybe 15 minutes I was already accustomed to using the on screen controls. I think it's because I was actively thinking about it from it being a concern of mine but either way, it's very easy to adjust. I was also concerned that the on screen navigation buttons take up a lot of screen space but it's mostly unnoticeable and goes away most of the time for full screen things unless you slide up from that side to make it show.
The reason I wanted to switch after having a Samsung Galaxy s2>s3>s4>s5>note3>note4 is because I wanted something fast, reliable, big battery, good camera (that can match up to what the Note 4 could do) and to be able to get updates right away and sexy. and the Nexus 6P hits all those marks perfectly. I don't miss the note 4.
Also the fingerprint reader.... I LOVE this thing, it's so convenient and fast!!! I had the fingerprint turned off on the Note 4 because it was inconvenient and I never thought I'd use a fingerprint reader because I wanted quick access to my screen right away at all times, but this positioning and speed for the 6P is amazing. There isn't even an option for changing your lockscreen image because you don't need it!
Edit: forgot to mention some drawbacks, with the Note 4 I didn't have to use a skin or case cuz that thing was pretty rugged but for my Nexus 6P I've spent nearly $50 on skins and cases cuz that mofo is slippery as fk. and feels too nice to put down without a case. Although the battery life is amazing right now I'm sure over time it won't be as good so as far as the USB type-c thing I can see it being a future headache, I can't borrow chargers from friends when I visit their homes, I need special cables that are compliant, and I'd need to find a special charger for my car. My wife still has a Samsung S5 so we can't share chargers anymore either.
Also lmao looks like I essayed this but I guess it's also for personal justification lol. and for anyone else in the same boat
Awesome post twistanesh! You guys have me feeling better and better about this move.
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Same here. When I took this thing off of the charger at 100% & got to work & noticed it was still 100% or maybe 99%, I was amazed. My Note 4 would have been at like 90% or less already. When I leave the phone for the night at say 50% & wake up, it barely moves overnight. Can't say the same with the Note 4. I have yet to fully test the battery, but the first day of use was heavy, & by bed time it was 48%. I also had it unplugged from the wall the prior day since 3 or 4am.
The usb c is nice for the fact I just plug it in & I'm not trying to figure out how the cable goes in.
The non bloat is huge. When I booted the phone Sunday for the first time, I was like.. Where are all of the apps? Oh wait, this is pure Android. The Verizon Note 4 has so many extra apps & processes running, it's a joke. What I have loaded on this phone is what I want. Not what Verizon forced on me.
Fyi, I had a non Dev Note 4. While I did use the pen some, all of these bonuses outweigh the pen.
Plus I feel the phone is much snappier.
Not to mention I haven't even unlocked and rooted yet.
So with that said, I won't be going back. And thats just a few things. I haven't even tested the speakers, really used the camera, or set up the fingerprint scanner.
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as i am reading your post, i am crying. my note 4, even after under clocking and so many things, the battery dies so fast, restarts and so many trouble. i don't use fingerprint, vibration etc to save battery. just thinking to move to 6p
came from note 4, bought 64gb White 6p for 285 from a friend ( wasn't used at all).
Never looked back (did this 2 months ago)
masri1987 said:
came from note 4, bought 64gb White 6p for 285 from a friend ( wasn't used at all).
Never looked back (did this 2 months ago)
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Just bought one, i am really curios as to how it will hold up. I had previously a note 4 so let's hope that performance are better
and that at least it will give me 1,5 year life (if it is good i will buy at that time the next nexus at a cheap price)
I have been trying to figure out what my next phone will be, and dreading the possibility of having to crawl back to apple. My choice is through my company. It's either a samsung, a blackberry, or an iphone. I currently am still on the s5. If they truly do bring back the micro SD on the s7, I cannot wait to be a happy owner. If not, I am torn. Please make the right decision samsung.
The rumor of the MicroSD slot returning is definitely one that caught my interest. Plus the fact that they are supposed to be working with Google to improve TouchWiz makes things sound even better. I am interested in the S7 with al the rumors going around, but I still want to see what the other companies have to offer before I make my choice.
Given my choices, the decision will be easy, assuming the micro sd card returns. I personally would also love to see the return of remove-able battery, but I can live without that. Whatever phone I wind up with, is going to go right into a protective case, so the solidness and elegance of the build is of little importance. Nice, but for me, form is trumped by function. The S6 was too much of an iPhone wannabe. I'd rather get an iPhone. The ability to expand storage on a phone that is also highly customizable, that is what I love about my S5. It is like having a phone that is also a highly powerful computer. I can sync with my home pc remotely, pull files over to myself, etc. These are features you lose with iPhone without jailbreak, but there are things IPhone does better than Samsung. It would be a real toss up. The return of the sd feature alone, would make my decision for me.
Well, the choices you have right now make the S7 an easy choice, but remember this is a new year and therefor new phones from other companies later on. With the Snapdragon 820 in effect now I rather wait a few months to see what happens even though I do like the way the S7 is looking.
Yeah, despite how much I hate the idea of a phone without replaceable battery, if the S7 comes with SD, that will probably be enough to upgrade from my S4, which is actually still plugging along nicely. I was all set to get an S6 until it was released, but losing both battery & storage cost them a sale.
I'm really leaning towards the S7 if they have the return of the sdcard slot. I'm currently using the Note 4. But I also want to see what the Note 6 has in store as well. If they do indeed decide to put back in the sdcard and have better battery life then I"m all in. But thats almost 7 months away, not sure if I can hold off that long...lol.
Bigger battery & Quick Charge 3.0 (I assume this will be present with the SD820) should make life easier, but I much prefer having extra internal batteries to a bank, & not looking forward to either plunking down a big chunk of change to have the battery replaced or having to buy a new phone when the battery inevitably loses its ability to hold a charge. Fully powering off in case of a bad ROM flash looks like another potential issue, but it looks like almost all manufacturers are going that way in exchange for having a pretty exterior, which I don't give a CRAP about.
I will wait to see what note 6 brings. I still keep my note 4. I can't justify "upgrade" to phone without sd card, non removable battery, lack of infrared port and hdmi out. All those features I regularly use
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Bigger battery & Quick Charge 3.0 (I assume this will be present with the SD820) should make life easier, but I much prefer having extra internal batteries to a bank, & not looking forward to either plunking down a big chunk of change to have the battery replaced or having to buy a new phone when the battery inevitably loses its ability to hold a charge. Fully powering off in case of a bad ROM flash looks like another potential issue, but it looks like almost all manufacturers are going that way in exchange for having a pretty exterior, which I don't give a CRAP about.
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So true. Who cares how the phone looks. It is nice to have a slim, aesthetically appealing phone, but I would take an extra mm or 2 thickness for an extra 300-500ma on the battery any day, and having a remove-able battery is important when your phone crashes and you need to completely shut the thing off. Function trumps form, though form can be cool, just know that a case is going to minimize the cool day 1.
On my S5, when it occasionally crashes, holding down the power button for 7 seconds does nothing for me. I have to remove the battery to shut the dang thing completely off. I am curious if this is also true on the S6, and if so, what they heck users do when their phone crashes? Wait out the battery drain?
Return of SD Card is crucial. My company pays for the minimum phone, and don't allow us to chip in for upgrades, which means if I want to use a company phone (free phone), I am stuck using the lowest storage option. 32gb ain't going to cut it. Removable battery would be nice, but not a deal breaker. Return of Waterproof would be killer as well, again, not a deal breaker. When I search leaked features on the web, it seems as though return of sd card is a done deal, though I cannot find an original source. Anyone know if this is true? Fingers crossed...
I've seen many rumors about SD, but there's a good chance we won't know until the official announcement. I can grudgingly accept the battery situation, but unless they offer a 256GB variant, lacking SD will be a deal killer for me.
if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
More excited about waterproofing coming back, micro sd is icing on the cake. Reason I didn't give up my S5, one its rooted and running custom rom and runs smooth and slick, but loved the water resistance, even taken vids and pics underwater and they actually come out real nice lol.
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if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
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There is not even a remote chance of that happening.
It's almost certain according to leaks that Edge will have 3600mAh, regular S7 will have 3000mAh.
Any way to estimate if the Edge with the larger battery (and larger screen) will have significantly better battery life than the S7 with its 3000mAh and smaller screen?
If the Edge was say 20% longer, I'd consider trying it out. Don't love phablets, but do love battery life.
I think SD card expansion option really needs to be considered. Modular design is way to go.
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Any way to estimate if the Edge with the larger battery (and larger screen) will have significantly better battery life than the S7 with its 3000mAh and smaller screen?
If the Edge was say 20% longer, I'd consider trying it out. Don't love phablets, but do love battery life.
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Batterylife on Edge will be better in standby, simply because of larger batteries. But in benchmark tests which only checks on-screen time, they will be neck-in-neck.
Batterylife (if everything else remains equal) is dependent surface area of display.
Area ratio = (5.5/5.1)^2 = 1.16
Battery ratio = 3600/3000 = 1.20
Edge version will give you better standby, in actual usage, on-screen batterylife will be almost same.
All variants of the device are said to come housed in a black frame, with a choice of black, white, silver or gold finishings, and the disagreeable camera bump is apparently now gone from the rear of the device.
On the subject of the camera, the sources both confirmed that Samsung has dropped the megapixel count from 16 to 12, and the f-stop is now a very appealing 1.7. Samsung plans to market the camera as being extremely adept at taking night shots, thanks to the lower aperture number, increased sensor size and dual-photodiode technology, which you can read more about in the camera section at the bottom of the page.
The pair of sources also confirmed that the S7 will be dust and waterproof, will house a hybrid dual SIM slot, returning support for microSD cards, up to 200 GB, and will have an increased battery capacity – all things that had previously been rumored.
The size, resolution and a number of other S7 specs were confirmed through another leak coming via. The leak comes in the form of a photo of a presentation slide, showing the S7 as part of the evolution of the S series.
On the slide, the device is given a 5.1-inch screen with 1,440p resolution, a 12 MP BRITECELL camera, 4 GB RAM and the Snapdragon 820 or Exynos 8890 processor. None of this is new or surprising, but it does begin to set long-running rumors in stone.
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I have been trying to figure out what my next phone will be, and dreading the possibility of having to crawl back to apple. My choice is through my company. It's either a samsung, a blackberry, or an iphone. I currently am still on the s5. If they truly do bring back the micro SD on the s7, I cannot wait to be a happy owner. If not, I am torn. Please make the right decision samsung.
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It's not a rumor. It's 100% true. I got to play with one for a few minutes this week. It's a slick little device, a noted evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, improvement over the S6.
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if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
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What rumor of a 4500mAh battery? I have never once heard that, and there's no way in hell they'd almost double the battery size.
Its 3500 on S7 Edge version, 3000 on S7
Hi folks. I've been on a T-mobile Note 4 for a long time now, and love it- no problems yet and an 8000 maH battery keeping me quite happy.
Thinking forward to buying a new phone soon. Lots of new stuff coming out soon, but the V20 still looks attractive to me (being able to get a 10,000 maH zerolemon battery is a BIG factor). IR blaster and SD card availability is big to me too.
Couple of questions:
1) Thinking about what's coming out, and having lived with the V20, would you wait for what's coming out this spring, or even sit back until the "V30"?
2) I love taking pictures with the Note 4, and they turn out well. Low light, well, not so much. Flowers on a sunny day are great. Are you happy with the main and selfie cameras, or do you find yourself wanting "just a bit more" (for the average user... I'm not a full time amateur photographer).
Your comments would be much appreciated. I just retired, so I have more time to play with things these days- so I'm sure I'll be using the next beast I buy extensively especially for reading, nice photos, and the ir remote (oh, I got a great e-z chair for tv time ).
Thanks much!
Steven.RN
I like my V20 but unfortunately I do not "love" it like I did with my OG Motorola Nexus 6.
The stock battery is utter crap and I am on my 2nd LG battery after having to recall the 1st one. The 2nd one greatly improved but not by much. Rooting this phone has saved me from returning it. If it wasn't for Root I would of returned the phone.
1. Other than the G6 or the S8 coming out - what other phones are coming out (T-Mobile Wise)? Nothing right now seems to give me that "wow" factor like the Pure Android experience from the Nexus 6 did (yes, as you can tell, I loved that phone) The Pixel phones are a complete joke to me...horrible design....
2. The camera is okay for an average user. I do find myself liking the fact I have two lenses to choose from. Wide angle and normal angle. Very helpful in the Security field that I am in. But be warned the pictures are not amazing like Samsung devices.
If I were you, kinda wish I was right now. I would wait for the Note 8!
But other than that the 2nd Screen is incredibly helpful, to me. The removable battery and SD card is a great addition. The IR Blaster is cool but I do not use it at all. I have enough "Universal" remotes. LG's UI is pretty neat I like it a lot better than Samsungs ugly TouchWiz UI.
To each their own, I suppose.
I think the phone is awesome, the smart phone market has peaked advancements aren't going to be as neat as they used to be.
The snapdragon 820 is about 3 times faster than the 805 in your note 4 (assuming you've got the snapdragon variant).
The camera is snappier than the note 4 and takes pretty good photos (better than the note 4).
If you like the stylus though I'd wait it out 6 months for the note 8.
It's a worthy upgrade and it'll probably be a phone that would carry you through two years if not longer.
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Absolutely the best phone I've ever had.
Very well built, great reception, zero lag, large screen....and I have to disagree about the battery. I've had nothing but FANTASTIC life, and this is with two different batteries, one just for backup just in case. Fast charging works great...volume is perfect, removable battery, rootable and TWRP-able...honestly, I wouldn't even think about "upgrading" from this phone right now. Samsung who?
I came from the note 4 also. This phone is much faster (no Lag). I didn't think there was any lag with my note until I got this phone. With that said, I am rooted with a custom rom and that did speed things up a little. My note was also rooted with a very nice custom rom.
When the note 7 came out, the were a lot of people on XDA saying they wished there was a flat screen version, i.e. not the curved screen. You can bet the note 8 will have a curved screen which makes finding quality screen protection tough. The v20 does have slight curving at the top and bottom, but people here have found tempered glass solutions that work.
You can also bet the note 8 won't have a removable back, so replacing the back plate with a bigger battery and cover won't be an option.
The camera takes very good pictures and if you understand the options in manual, you can really optimize it. Is it as good as the note 8 will be? No.
Sammy screens are also the best looking. The V20 screen while it has the specs, just doesn't look as good as a sammy. If you use a kernel with kcal support, you can get close.
Good luck.
I also came from a Note 4.
I personally never used the stylus for anything except taking screen grabs. I fount it easier than remembering the button combo for a screenshot.
My gps stopped working due to a known defect in the note 4. I broke the display trying to take it apart to fix it.
I love my V20 so much more than my note 3 or 4 or 7 even.
I won't buy note 8 as like all Samsungs -
1. The sound will most likely be horrible.
2. You probably will never be able to root it.
3. As nice as the amoled looks - everyone I've owned as well as my wifes, bil's, sisters all suffer bad screen burn in.
4. If they force that curved edge screen again. I hated that on the Note 7.
I'm done with Sammy. LG V20 is the best I've ever had so far
I also came from the Note 4. I got the s7 edge which i gave to my wife. The buttons(or lack of) take a little getting used to, but the ability to root determined my buying the V20 and I think it is on par with my note feature wise(minus stylus\plus FM radio) just faster and maybe a bit lighter. If Note 8 is rootable, i might jump but i doubt it. I could keep this phone for awhile.
Love it
But dont love the front cam is really bad
And rear cam
My old nexus 6p was better
But performance is great and second screen is great
Battary is ****
Charge is 3 times at day
Hi dac is fantastic
Screen is good but not great
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For me
Camera
At day light 10/10
At night 9/10
Indoors craaap 2/10
Another perk with LG is that the amount of garbage software that it comes with is minimal when compared to Samsung. I know the note 3 and note 4 were filled with Samsung garbage apps.
The other consideration is there is no know so warranty shouldn't be a issue since there is no knox switch that gets flipped when you root it, you can (in most cases) reverse the rooting without any problems.
Of course I turned in my v10 rooted and they didn't even care (T-Mobile) so I am not sure if this is a real issue with warranty or not.
I say go for it, its going to beat the note 4 in just about everything. The only perk for the note 4 is the amoled display which saves quite a bit of battery. Of course you can always get aftermarket battery packs to off set it with the LG v20.
The v20 battery life is much improved over the v10, I typically have about 30 percent battery by the end of the day (this is with spotify and Bluetooth running during the work day).
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I really do like it a lot, although it had to grow on me a little bit. In term of pictures, I think it takes rather nice pictures (at least for me). The wide angle lens is pretty cool too. My note 5 broke so this is why I have this phone. The second screen is really useful and I like that it doesn't have a notification light. The screen is nice and big for reading also. I don't use the IR blaster at all so i can't really tell you what its like.
I hope this helps!
The v20 is OK but my note 7 was far superior. Better camera, screen, battery life, only thing the v20 had over the note 7 was the DAC. Personally I would wait until newer phones comes out. I'm looking FWD to the note 8.
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As someone who have had a wide variety of samsungs and LG .... I believe i will be keeping this phone for at least 4 years easily. There are just not way too many cons and there are way to many pros. The battery can sometime be a pain but that's just like any other phone since nothing last forever. But hey, the dozen mode!!! OUTSTANDING! my V20 consumes 1% of battery in 8 hours with screen off and 2nd screen on. so, it might not last more than 5:30-50's+ hours with screen on, full brightness, wifi on, gps on, and a video in 1440p. But,,,, as far as dozen mode goes.... It is outstanding! And if the promotion stills on, you can get the phone for 600+ instead of the 800+ by exchanging any 4g crap phone ($19 dollars at walmart should do lol). Im happy with the phone (sometimes pictures if zoomed in can look like waterpaint style but it doesnt happen that often (At least to me)). And as far as waiting for the V30 or note 8 ... Well, that is truly up to you. However, if you are hoping for root , there is just not guarantee given the fact that they are truly patching up every door from nougat 7.0 and up. So... you could wait for the V30 or note 8 but if you wish for root or developments.... i dont recommend to buy them before someone finds the way to root it.
I was one of the ones that was coming from an S6 edge instead of something newer, so obviously it's a bigger upgrade for me than it was for most others. I am pretty happy with the camera. I miss having the double-tap home button from the Samsung for the camera launch, but that's about it. I took it with me to Colorado and took some quite lovely pictures in the sunshine. Most people will concede that the low light performance leaves some to be desired, but I usually don't take any in conditions that are that bad, where that I would complain afterwards. I kind of figure that in sub-optimal conditions, I'll have sub-optimal results.
My battery seems to be quite fine, BUT, I'm also rooted and running a debloated ROM (the US996 stock deodexed, on my 995 Verizon model). The battery under whatever kernel it's running, is quite fine, and it is removable for people needing more length. I wish it had wireless charging, but that's just how it is. But for example, 8 hours on standby, and I was still at well over 75% today at work. And I can usually get through a good 3 hours of straight video playback at least. But the way people use their phones varies so much, it's hard to say. I do get better life rooted than when it was stock.
It also is plenty snappy, and I've had no issues, no overheating, no weird battery drain, no lag, or the like. I would say that coming from what you have now, it might be a step up but you might feel it won't be a big enough one yet. But the LG G6 being rumored out might be worth holding out, assuming you aren't looking to root. That might get tricky as Nougat (mentioned above) starts getting locked down. I have faith in the community - after all, it didn't take long for the V20 to get opened up, though there are some that worry that it'll continue to get harder as exploits get patched.
For what it's worth, I love mine. I miss a couple weird tricks from other phones, but on the whole, I am very satisfied with my decision.
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I was one of the ones that was coming from an S6 edge instead of something newer, so obviously it's a bigger upgrade for me than it was for most others. I am pretty happy with the camera. I miss having the double-tap home button from the Samsung for the camera launch, but that's about it. I took it with me to Colorado and took some quite lovely pictures in the sunshine. Most people will concede that the low light performance leaves some to be desired, but I usually don't take any in conditions that are that bad, where that I would complain afterwards. I kind of figure that in sub-optimal conditions, I'll have sub-optimal results.
My battery seems to be quite fine, BUT, I'm also rooted and running a debloated ROM (the US996 stock deodexed, on my 995 Verizon model). The battery under whatever kernel it's running, is quite fine, and it is removable for people needing more length. I wish it had wireless charging, but that's just how it is. But for example, 8 hours on standby, and I was still at well over 75% today at work. And I can usually get through a good 3 hours of straight video playback at least. But the way people use their phones varies so much, it's hard to say. I do get better life rooted than when it was stock.
It also is plenty snappy, and I've had no issues, no overheating, no weird battery drain, no lag, or the like. I would say that coming from what you have now, it might be a step up but you might feel it won't be a big enough one yet. But the LG G6 being rumored out might be worth holding out, assuming you aren't looking to root. That might get tricky as Nougat (mentioned above) starts getting locked down. I have faith in the community - after all, it didn't take long for the V20 to get opened up, though there are some that worry that it'll continue to get harder as exploits get patched.
For what it's worth, I love mine. I miss a couple weird tricks from other phones, but on the whole, I am very satisfied with my decision.
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Random FYI... Double press down volume when screen is off opens camera. (options in settings to open and immediately take pic or just open)
I figure you already know and just miss the convenience of the home button location but... Just in case...
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Random FYI... Double press down volume when screen is off opens camera. (options in settings to open and immediately take pic or just open)
I figure you already know and just miss the convenience of the home button location but... Just in case...
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Yup, there is that one. But it's also a little more awkward that way. It's just as easy to double-tap the screen and swipe into the camera app. The home key on the Samsung was perfect, because I could bring the phone to landscape orientation, double tap, and bam, ready to go. It's rare that I need to get a picture THAT fast that I need to, but it was really convenient.
I love almost everything about it, but If this thing had a brighter or amoled screen I would never get another phone.
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I love almost everything about it, but If this thing had a brighter or amoled screen I would never get another phone.
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Do not bring AMOLED INTO IPS!!! Every single phone i had with AMOLED screen (10 to be precise), all of them developed burn in image. LOL I will never buy another phone with AMOLED screen. Unless..... They A) fix the issue with the burn in image, and B) they manage to make it last at its full potential for at least 5 years and then after 5 years the pixels can start dying. Not to mention that many of the AMOLED screens from nowadays have removed soooooooo many important features in a phone such as removable battery and sd card slots. That alone makes me move within an instant to LG G or V series (AKA Large Giraffe as some people call it LOL)
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Do not bring AMOLED INTO IPS!!! Every single phone i had with AMOLED screen (10 to be precise), all of them developed burn in image. LOL I will never buy another phone with AMOLED screen. Unless..... They A) fix the issue with the burn in image, and B) they manage to make it last at its full potential for at least 5 years and then after 5 years the pixels can start dying. Not to mention that many of the AMOLED screens from nowadays have removed soooooooo many important features in a phone such as removable battery and sd card slots. That alone makes me move within an instant to LG G or V series (AKA Large Giraffe as some people call it LOL)
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Hahaha Yeah it would have to be a revised version of that hardware. I just find that the screen is way too dim outside. I even used that adaptive display mod which does help, but washes out the colors.
I literally just went from a note 4 to v20 and its amazing. The phone is so much more intuitive . tap screen to wake .fingerprint scanner unlocks phone faster than I can swipe. So much more. All around it just works better. I feel like all Samsung phones are the same. Bc I've had only Sammy past 8 years. I love this v20
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I have a Motorola Droid Turbo that I've had for almost 4 years. I tend to buy good phones when they are slightly out of date and bring them to my carrier (VZW). I need (rarely) international compatibility and a reliable phone. The LG v20 is appealing because the battery is replaceable (only reason I am dumping my existing phone) and has a headphone jack. If it has an adequate camera, that is fine for my needs.
Any reason not to buy this phone? Reliability, etc?
I am planning on purchasing 'new' from ebay, phones are running about $220. Any recommended sources for the oem batteries or at least one that works well? How about screen protectors?
I will purchase a TPU case. Amazon reviews are all over the place. When I receive the phone, I will read some guides on disabling all the background garbage apps.
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I have a Motorola Droid Turbo that I've had for almost 4 years. I tend to buy good phones when they are slightly out of date and bring them to my carrier (VZW). I need (rarely) international compatibility and a reliable phone. The LG v20 is appealing because the battery is replaceable (only reason I am dumping my existing phone) and has a headphone jack. If it has an adequate camera, that is fine for my needs.
Any reason not to buy this phone? Reliability, etc?
I am planning on purchasing 'new' from ebay, phones are running about $220. Any recommended sources for the oem batteries or at least one that works well? How about screen protectors?
I will purchase a TPU case. Amazon reviews are all over the place. When I receive the phone, I will read some guides on disabling all the background garbage apps.
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Rooting is not easy. Or wasn't.. haven't checked in a while. My phone I have had from launch and the screen suffers from temporary burn in. Really annoying. Was never an issue till the last couple months it has gotten worse. I'll probably never buy a phone without an OLED screen again. But overall I'm pretty happy with the phone. I don't really have that bad of urges to replace it. The note 9 is looking good but I want to see what LG does with the next v series. I came from Samsungs line before this phone I had the note 4, rooted Galaxy s4 3 and 2.
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Rooting is not easy. Or wasn't.. haven't checked in a while. My phone I have had from launch and the screen suffers from temporary burn in. Really annoying. Was never an issue till the last couple months it has gotten worse. I'll probably never buy a phone without an OLED screen again. But overall I'm pretty happy with the phone. I don't really have that bad of urges to replace it. The note 9 is looking good but I want to see what LG does with the next v series. I came from Samsungs line before this phone I had the note 4, rooted Galaxy s4 3 and 2.
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I will not be rooting so no biggie there. Sad to hear about the screen, I'll have to investigate more. Any other last gen phones you'd recommend? Obviously none would have the removable battery and many don't have a headphone jack...
I'd say you can't go wrong with any Galaxy device or note. Especially if you can root it. My s4 was running so smooth after it's 2 years were up. Was running a Google edition rom. I just don't know if I can look past the screen issues I have been having and have read about on the v20. My only complaint. The camera is awesome. The mic is amazing. Sound quality of music is great. Second display I use all the time. Fingerprint reader is instant and perfect. Build quality is excellent. I have been using it without a case for the last year and have dropped it many times and you can't even tell.
My wife and I both have Verizon V20s, having upgraded from V10s about a year ago. We love this phone, to put it succinctly.
The good:
-Root! (Even though you said you're not going to, we won't buy a phone that can't be rooted.)
-Good camera. Not the absolute greatest, but pretty darn good, and can handle low-light pretty well for a phone. Love having the second wide-angle sensor.
-Good battery life, especially with a new battery. I usually have about 70% life after streaming over Bluetooth all day at work and looking stuff up sporadically. Also charges very quickly with appropriate chargers.
-Nice screen size. Plenty bright and good for watching darkly lit shows. Does require two hands for typing unless you use the weird one-handed keyboard thing.
-Second screen. Very handy for custom quick shortcuts without even turning the main screen on.
-Removeable battery and SD card support.
-Unlocked out of the box, like any Verizon device.
There is probably more I like about this phone but can't remember. Those are the highlights, though. Now for the bad:
-Rooting does take some effort, but is totally manageable. (In case you decide to.)
-Bluetooth streaming was initially very choppy, but we fixed that by turning off battery optimizations for Bluetooth.
-Finger print sensor on power button sometimes unlocks the screen immediately after I lock it. Have to pull my finger away quickly. Not a big deal, I guess.
-Screen burn-in does require some effort to mitigate, but is fine after adjustments.
I think that's all. In a nutshell, great phone if you're willing to do a little bit of setup.
Would just like to chime in on the burn in. I have a h918 running the BTTF kernel with Kcal and I'll say it has definitely mitigated the frequency that it appears but no combo I have tried so far has completely gotten rid of it.
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Rooting is not easy. Or wasn't.. haven't checked in a while. My phone I have had from launch and the screen suffers from temporary burn in. Really annoying. Was never an issue till the last couple months it has gotten worse. I'll probably never buy a phone without an OLED screen again. But overall I'm pretty happy with the phone. I don't really have that bad of urges to replace it. The note 9 is looking good but I want to see what LG does with the next v series. I came from Samsungs line before this phone I had the note 4, rooted Galaxy s4 3 and 2.
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You can fix this if you have a kernel with kcal support like mk2000, and the color control app. You can turn down the max color values a bit and pretty much get rid of the ghosting completely.