Related
Hey all the story is this:
I had been using the JASJAR for a couple of months now and suddenly the phone (and I mean only the phone) has stopped working....What happens is that with my Vodafone SIM card I get signal but I cannot make or receive calls....When they call me they get voicemail, when I try to call the phone tries to make a call but after 30 seconds I get ' Call ended'.
I have even upgarded the device to the ROM given by imate and still the same thing happens....The green light flashes but it looks to people calling me that the phone is off.
I contacted Expansys where the phone was bought from and they advised to contact SBE which is imate's service center. I did and they kindly offered to have the phone picked up by courrier and have a look at it. They did and after a week or so they came back with a quote for 100+ pounds for replacing the phones main board! They said that warranty will not cover it because ' it is out of warranty according to the manufacturing date'.
I of course freaked out and spoke to imate on-line support and they advised me that the excuse will not stand and that all phones are covered by their date of purchase and that I should write an email to imate support explaining the situation. I did and the reply outraged me even more....
They said that the spoke to the service center and that they advised them that "it has been verified that the coaxial cable on the device is faulty and this is considered as a physical damage." The phone had NO damage when it left me and it has never suffered any....
:twisted:
Has this happened to anyone before? What should I do next? They provide lame excuses and they do not honour their warranty....Are they just trying to make more money out of me? Any advise will be appreciated and if anyone has taken a case like this to a cunsumers right association I will be glad to hear from them....I am not willing to give this up...
Thank you in advance,
Argy
PS I have all email and on-line chat on file for anyone that does not believe it....
i had a simaler problem with my a1000 which i got from 3uk
i ended up paying off my contract about the 6month mark and a few month later the phone stopped charging,
i assumed motorola would fix it being the manufacture but they said its outsourced to 3 and they handle all the repairs.
i rang 3uk and they asked me for my account number i advised them that i was no longer a coustomer as i payed off my contract but the phone was still under the 12 manufactures warantie.
they said they wouldnt even look at it as i was no longer a 3uk coustomer and that i would have to speak to motorola, motorola said exactly the oposate and that as it was a 3uk phone it was up to them to fix it.
after numerous calls and letters both from myself and consumer rights nothing was done and eventualy the 12 month past ......
i have it as a paper weight now lol
not relervant to your story but it might help somone else
good look ... dont let them screw you over
argyris said:
I contacted Expansys where the phone was bought from and they advised to contact SBE which is imate's service center.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you bought the phone from Expansys then (in theory) your contract is with them, not with SBE or I-Mate or anybody else.
Expansys should honour their contract with you and provide warranty cover, not refer you to someone else.
I'm no expert in consumer contract law (so I could be wrong) but I believe this to be the case. If it was a mail-order purchase then your rights should be even stronger, I think.
Your best bet might be to contact a Citizens Advice Bureau and find out what their opinion is. I'd have thought they'd examine the small print of your contract with Expansys and then tell you whether you have a valid warranty claim against them or not.
Good luck.
if you paid originally for it on your credit card, they might be able to help aswell.
If you bought the phone from Expansys then (in theory) your contract is with them, not with SBE or I-Mate or anybody else.
Expansys should honour their contract with you and provide warranty cover, not refer you to someone else.
I'm no expert in consumer contract law (so I could be wrong) but I believe this to be the case. If it was a mail-order purchase then your rights should be even stronger, I think.
Good luck.[/quote]
I bought the phone as a SIM free phone and not with a contract so I guess this makes things even worse.....but it was a mail order.... To be honest I think we are all totally screwed when it comes to dealing with this kind of problems....they will always say that the fault is ours and we can do nothing to prove it....
argyris said:
I bought the phone as a SIM free phone and not with a contract so I guess this makes things even worse.....but it was a mail order.... To be honest I think we are all totally screwed when it comes to dealing with this kind of problems....they will always say that the fault is ours and we can do nothing to prove it....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I meant your contract of sale, not the monthly contract for the talkplan.
When you buy something from someone, you make a contract with them. In your case your contract was with Expansys and they have a legal obligation to support reasonable claims of items being unfit for purpose or not in working order.
I contacted Expansys, lets see what they have to say now....
Anyone know of any consuner rights group that might be able to help?
Thanx
argyris said:
Anyone know of any consuner rights group that might be able to help?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The UK Government has a website that might help:
http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/
You can call them for a chat too. Might be worth a try.
Or put "uk consumer rights" into Goooooogle and see what comes up.
One interesting paragraph on this page says:
No excuses
The law says it's up to the seller to deal with complaints about defective goods or other failures to comply with your statutory rights. Don't accept the excuse that "It's the manufacturer's fault," although you might also have additional rights against the manufacturer under a guarantee.
Think twice before you buy from a trader who displays a 'no refunds' notice. It is against the law, unless it also tells you that this does not affect your statutory rights .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think Expansys have some wriggle room on the guarantee if in the small print of their terms and conditions (that you read and agreed to when you bought the Universal, right? ) it says that they're acting as agents to the manufacturer only. I think that kinda gets them out of warranty obligations and means your contract of sale would be with whoever they mention in their T&Cs. I've never bought from them though, so I've no idea how they operate.
I think Expansys have some wriggle room on the guarantee if in the small print of their terms and conditions (that you read and agreed to when you bought the Universal, right? ) it says that they're acting as agents to the manufacturer only. I think that kinda gets them out of warranty obligations and means your contract of sale would be with whoever they mention in their T&Cs. I've never bought from them though, so I've no idea how they operate.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are right, I did a bit of searching in some goverment sites and it states that when they act like agents you cannot blame them for anything....you have to take it up with the manufacturer.
Some useful stuff I found out are:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/ccp/topics1/facts/distancesell.htm
http://www.euroconsumer.org.uk/
http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/links/index.shtml
I think everyone should take a quick read and finally know their rights....
Final Update!!
Since neither i-mate nor SBE would reply to any mails I finally paid for the repair of the phone. The guy I spoke to on the phone admited that they have a lot of Jasjars in for repairs and at most of them the warranty is not honoured....
This is a warning for all people wanting to buy one! DONT! The warranty will not be honoured in case it breaks down and i-mate is only good for advertising.....
DO NOT BUT THE JASJAR!
Would it be the same case trying to get warrenty for the O2 version?
I have had a similar problem and have had enough of O2 and need some advice. 2 months ago I plugged the charger into my XDA Exec and the charger port got pushed back into the phone. So I was a bit annoyed that this would happen but I took it to the O2 shop who said it's not a problem and as the phone hasn't even been out a year it will be under warranty and should be no more than 3 weeks being repaired.
After four weeks I got a phone call saying that it wasn't under warranty and that the cost for repair would be £350 because they had to replace some sort of chip. I know this isn't true as the phone worked perfectly it just couldn't be charged. So I said I would not pay this and I wanted it returned. After a week still no sign of the phone I called O2 to tell them the whole story and they said that it could be repaired under the warranty and it wasn't a problem, I just had to send it straight to the repair centre without going through the shop.
I sat and waited until today 2 months after the phone originally broke and it got delivered back to the O2 shop.
I think it's disgusting that this has happened and wondered what my next plan of action should be??
argyris said:
I think Expansys have some wriggle room on the guarantee if in the small print of their terms and conditions (that you read and agreed to when you bought the Universal, right? ) it says that they're acting as agents to the manufacturer only. I think that kinda gets them out of warranty obligations and means your contract of sale would be with whoever they mention in their T&Cs. I've never bought from them though, so I've no idea how they operate.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are right, I did a bit of searching in some goverment sites and it states that when they act like agents you cannot blame them for anything....you have to take it up with the manufacturer.
Some useful stuff I found out are:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/ccp/topics1/facts/distancesell.htm
http://www.euroconsumer.org.uk/
http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/links/index.shtml
I think everyone should take a quick read and finally know their rights....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This doesn't work like that in all country's ! In Holland they suppliers is responsable, the is : The name in Header on the bill. They could say the're only agents, but when they give you a bill with their name on it, you bought it for tehm, thus; they are responable...
NO FINEPRINT CAN EVER OVERRULE ANY LAWS....
Hey all,
I got my phone back today and guess what???? It does not charge or gets recognised by the computer....It was returned with a QTEK ROM although it is a Imate phone....
I am now sure this imate/SBE thing is all a nice scam that rips people off....
argyris said:
Hey all,
I got my phone back today and guess what???? It does not charge or gets recognised by the computer....It was returned with a QTEK ROM although it is a Imate phone....
I am now sure this imate/SBE thing is all a nice scam that rips people off....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you paid for the repair then sue them for not repairing - find their local trading standards office in the UK to complain to, complain to your VISA company etc etc.
Do you have anyone in the UK who can do this for you?
Richard
rICHARD,
I told them that I did not get what I paid for and I am expecting a repair. They came back saying that they do provide warranty for all repairs they make so they will accept it back and repair it without any more cost for me....
The only thing to do is wait and see....I will post back any news....
Why not report them for piracy to HTC / Microsoft? I am led to believe loading a rom from one manufacturer onto another's device amounts to software piracy as your software was bought from i-mate and you now have Qtek's O.S.....
Expansys
I bought mine through expansys you have to show proof of purchase, you can get this by emailing expansys or digging up your old email confirmation. The rest of your problem seem to be bs.
1.) email I-mate [email protected]
2.) If I-mate gave you an rma number you don't pay for anything
3.) once you get you phone in prepare to wait
argyris,
Have you tried to insert another SIM card in the phone?
I have this weird problem with the JJ. I have 2 SIM's with 2 different Operators. The JJ works just fine with one SIM .....
BUT, when I insert the other SIM, I can make calls normally, but I can receive only ONE call (i mean it, ONE), after that the damn thing won't receive calls anymore!
After trying to make calls for several times it does work, but again, one incoming call and that's it.
I tried that SIM in the 8800, it works just great.
Anybody has an idea on what's going on?
Thank you guys..
I know this isn't the trading standards forum but I wondered what other people's experiences of warranties and phones under contract were.
My HD is 11 months old being under Orange contract, the screen has stopped responding (seems fairly common) - and is now stuck on the align screen mode after several resets. Contacted Orange, who are saying their warranty is six months and then I should move to HTC to chase it. (I can't remember or find any evidence of warranty being six months, though I know Orange want to sell you an extended insurance after six months.)
Anyway I contacted HTC who were pretty appalling to be honest and not what I expected; It took an age to enter my details and then they said it was out of warranty based on the S/N manufacture date - I had to remind them that it's the date of purchase not the manufacture date, so they ran with it pointing out there may be a charge as my phone is 'nearly' out of warranty. Excuse me, but there is no nearly if it's less than 12 months is it?
I started to cite the SOGA, and they backed down a bit saying they would have a look but could be a charge. They also asked me to go back to Orange. So the phone has been packed off.
Anyway, I'm still in neutral land at the moment and this could all turn out good. But it made me think that given the fobbing off nature of both companies, I wasn't clear where the responsibilities lie. I know if I did go down the SOGA route the owness would be on me to prove it wasn't damage etc. Don't fancy that, but I will and have done several times go to the small claims court if I have to.
Frustrating thing is, companies shouldn't be like this they rely on us to provide good word of mouth and return custom.
I've got a **** list of bad companies who I won't purchase from, I really hope HTC doesn't end up on this because I love their phones. Maybe they're paying Cavendish a bit too much?
Let me know your experiences, I've read a few but wasn't sure what the bottom line of warranty was - can't find any proper info.
Bully for you on getting them to examine the phone. Hopefully they will repair or replace it.
I read an article on the "disposability" of today's smartphones last week. The article broke down the costs of various plans and showed what the actual cost was of each. In essence, it showed that almost regardless of what plan you went with, smartphones are "bad buys" because they become almost as dated as a new car driving off the lot.
6.1, 6.5, 7.? all drive home the point that HTC's smartphones are coming off the conveyor belt like pancakes off the frying pan. HTC builds a number of different phones for the various telecoms. ROM upgrades may be available for a while but eventually the older model phones will be left behind.
My experience with warranties has changed because of what I found while on eBay a couple of months ago. I purchased a reburbished HDTV that had 30 days warranty. However, the seller had Square Trade Warranty linked to his auction. Because STW had a sale of their warranties going during the time I purchased my HDTV, I was able to get a two year warranty for the price of one year. I did a lot of web research on STW and they came up almost universally positive.
You have to purchase the warranty within the first 30 days of actual electronic purchase. Once under their warranty, their warranty kicks in after the manufacturer's warranty expires. You have the option of sending in your item or having it looked at locally. If found to be defective, they will pay up to the purchase price the cost of repairs for the length of the warranty.
Their warranty service appears to be less restrictive than most manufacturers' and electronic stores'. I like the option of being able to take my item in locally to have it looked (hopefully nothing ever goes wrong). You can google them to find their website. I know that if I ever paid $200 or more for a cellphone, I'd have a longer warranty than what the manufacturers offer.
In the past I have several total replacement warranties on laptops which saved my bacon. I've had two go bad and both were replaced when the electronics store found them to be defective. In one case, I had to ride the store as they tried to say that while the laptop "appeared to be defective" they could not duplicate. Because they had left the word "defective" on my answering machine, I was able to ram that home with their headquarters.
Good luck!
Hello,
I'm planning to buy a new HD2 locked to T-mobile on eBay. The question is, even if the seller gives me a receipt, won't HTC send me to T-mobile saying u bought it there, fix it there and T-mobile will say to me that I'm not a T-mobile costumer and will decline?
I mean if something happens and I'll need a warranty
I'm pretty sure that yes, that would be the case. Mine is from O2, and if I put my serial into the htc website it says not today thank you.
Yes
If you don't want to use the HD2 on T-Mobile you will have no warranty as you described.
If you are going to use the HD2 on T-Mobile then as long as the person you buy it from has not used it then your warranty will be good. The warranty is tied to the account that first uses the phone. The IMEI number on the phone registers with T-Mobile on the account it is first used on for warranty purposes, any warranty claims would go through T-Mobile on that account.
Ok - first and most important - WHAT COUNTRY ARE YOU IN?
EVERY country has diferent rules. For example, in the states you have almost no consumer protection but in the UK you have very strong consumer protection.
If you are in the UK I can certainly help you with this.
Hi guys I also have a T mobile locked HD2 bought on Ebay from UK; she is/was an uk T mobile customer. Now the phone is with me in Italy, what can I do to have it replaced?
Its not t-mobiles responsibilty. Under UK consumer law you return the device to the person/company who sold it to you and NOT the manufacturer. So, if you purchased the phone from t-Mobile, then you return to T-Mob, if you purchased from Fred Smith on Ebay, return to Fred Smith on Ebay.
The device is also expected to last for a reasonable lifetime without fault. In the case of mobiles, if they wish to sell them on 18/24 month contracts it should be reasonable for a phone to last 18/24 months.
First you need to contact them letter via recorded delivery post detailing the problem and asking them to fix or replace the device.
return it to htc via t-mobile or directly to htc..
it's quite easy,i do this several times with items purchased on ebay that i returned to pc-world..
they have records that they sold the item as the item have a serial number..
gabbs said:
return it to htc via t-mobile or directly to htc..
it's quite easy,i do this several times with items purchased on ebay that i returned to pc-world..
they have records that they sold the item as the item have a serial number..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If its Cavallipurosangue you are talking to this is very unlikely to work. T-Mobile will want to tie this up with the customer that they have and it won't.
Acer certainly wouldn't do this for me. I purchased a phone under a company contract (and therefor not covered by consumer rights) and it turns out that phone was already registered to someone else. Acer point blank refused to deal with me, almost claiming that I had stolen property.
In both cases, its NOT T-Mobiles responsibilty (in the eyes of UK Sales of Goods Act) and IF they do repair/replace, it will only be good will and out of there choice.
T-Mobile will have a "contract" (and i don't mean 12/24 month contract) with the buyer who would have been "Fred Smith" and no-one else, specialy not with the two posters here. The two posters have entered into a contract with the Ebay sellers and this is where ALL liability lays.
The Sale of Goods act doesn't cover private sales, which are effectively 2nd user sales. It's a case of buyer beware unless the item is faulty from the outset.
In this case, 'Fred Smith' has a duty to accurately describe something he is selling, but once accepted by the new owner his liability ends, even if it was technically a sealed box sale.
HTC have accepted responsibility for these sort of warranty claims in the past under their pan-european warranty, but they have no legal obligation so to do.
If a foreign buyer buys a T-Mobile phone, and it later goes wrong, his only other option is to contact the seller and see if he will negotiate with T-Mobile as a goodwill gesture.
heh - then they are royaly stuffed if anything goes wrong and depend entirley on the mood of the person they speak to at HTC at the time.
Simple then: If you want a warranty, don't buy from Ebay.
Monty Burns said:
heh - then they are royaly stuffed if anything goes wrong and depend entirley on the mood of the person they speak to at HTC at the time.
Simple then: If you want a warranty, don't buy from Ebay.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's about the size of it! So make sure you get a bargain!
I was looking to purchase a Samsung Galaxy SII i9100 (U.K. version) but I know that Samsung won't honor the warranty since its a not a U.S. phone.
I was reading some old threads on this about how for $94 Squaretrade will insure your phone for $600 for two years but some people said they would cover it and some said they wouldn't...
Then I got this directly from Squaretrade's website:
"Coverage Details
2 years of coverage: The SquareTrade Smartphone warranty covers your Smartphone for up to 2 years, starting on the date of purchase.
Covered Issues: Both accidents (e.g., broken screen or other damage through drops AND liquid damage including full immersion) and out-of-warranty normal use failures (e.g., battery no longer charging or other hardware failures) are covered. We do not cover loss, theft, willful damage or damage occurring through gross misuse."
This scared the hell out of me, I've never used Squaretrade before. Lets say something goes wrong and I contact them for support... wouldn't they just say "sorry we only cover out-of-warranty repairs you need to go to Samsung U.K. since you have a 1st year warranty through them" ???
Kind of a big purchase (over $600) so I need to be sure that I am covered before pulling the trigger
Also does anyone know the general cost of shipping a galaxy s i9100 from the U.S. to the U.K. for samsung to repair it?
Thanks for you help I really appreciate it.
P.S. in case anyone says to search I already looked through both of the U.S. warranty threads and didn't find an answer
If you a buy a phone in its country of intended sale from an authorized Samsung dealer it's covered by Samsung's two-year global warranty. So if you buy it in the UK and have it shipped to the U.S. it'll be covered as you'll have a receipt from the UK in GBP. Expansys-USA also sends phones they sell in the U.S. back to the UK for repair through their office there. Now that the phone's being sold in the U.S. there's a good chance you could get a UK phone under warranty repaired here. Samsung's very strict and requires a receipt and/or a credit card statement before they repair a phone under warranty. They also have a DB of serial numbers that show which phones were sent to which resellers. Their warranty system is hard to scam.
SquareTrade does cover gray market phones. This is from their T&C:
If the manufacturer refuses to honor their warranty because they consider your item grey market or not purchased from an authorized retailer, we will still cover you.
And yes, assuming you get your phone from the UK or from Expansys-USA, SquareTrade only covers what the manufacturer doesn't. But if you crack the screen or cause damage to the phone that Samsung woudn't cover it's still good to have SquareTrade as a back-up.
Owning a gray market phone is a pain in the ass if something goes wrong. If it has to be repaired in the UK you'll be without for a couple of weeks. If you want the safety and security of carrier insurance and swaps for defects stick with an American version.
BarryH_GEG said:
If you a buy a phone in its country of intended sale from an authorized Samsung dealer it's covered by Samsung's two-year global warranty.
Expansys-USA also sends phones they sell in the U.S. back to the UK for repair through their office there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So if I purchase through Expansys-USA that means I still have the 2 year (or is it 1 year since it was bought from a Expansys branch in the States?) warranty and if anything goes wrong I send it to their U.S. branch which then forwards it to their U.K. branch to get repaired?
Is there any sort of warranty f.a.q. on Expansys website that says this in writing that I can print out? I looked on their website and found nothing detailing this U.S. to U.K. forwarding process and don't wan't to have something go wrong and then later on an Expansys-USA rep that doesn't know much telling me "Ooooh no sir, we don't do that... you have to go through Samsung U.K. yourself to get repairs"
BarryH_GEG said:
Owning a gray market phone is a pain in the ass if something goes wrong. If it has to be repaired in the UK you'll be without for a couple of weeks. If you want the safety and security of carrier insurance and swaps for defects stick with an American version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gezz why the heck does Samsung make it so hard for Americans? You'd think they would want to make it easier for potential customers to buy their products that make them money instead of blacklisting the product from warranty and turning sales away
ap3604 said:
So if I purchase through Expansys-USA that means I still have the 2 year (or is it 1 year since it was bought from a Expansys branch in the States?) warranty and if anything goes wrong I send it to their U.S. branch which then forwards it to their U.K. branch to get repaired?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In essence, Expansys is your warranty. I'm guessing they act as middle-man for the life of the Samsung warranty which, internationally, is two years. You really need to check with them.
Is there any sort of warranty f.a.q. on Expansys website that says this in writing that I can print out? I looked on their website and found nothing detailing this U.S. to U.K. forwarding process and don't wan't to have something go wrong and then later on an Expansys-USA rep that doesn't know much telling me "Ooooh no sir, we don't do that... you have to go through Samsung U.K. yourself to get repairs"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
E-mail their sales group and ask them to send you an e-mail confirming their policy. If you want to buy the phone in the UK, Handtec, Clove, and CleverBoxes all ship to the U.S.
Gezz why the heck does Samsung make it so hard for Americans? You'd think they would want to make it easier for potential customers to buy their products that make them money instead of blacklisting the product from warranty and turning sales away
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The U.S. carriers are their bread and butter. They'd rather funnel all their sales through them rather than compete by selling unlocked phones direct.
Easy...
ap3604 said:
I was looking to purchase a Samsung Galaxy SII i9100 (U.K. version) but I know that Samsung won't honor the warranty since its a not a U.S. phone.
I was reading some old threads on this about how for $94 Squaretrade will insure your phone for $600 for two years but some people said they would cover it and some said they wouldn't...
Then I got this directly from Squaretrade's website:
"Coverage Details
2 years of coverage: The SquareTrade Smartphone warranty covers your Smartphone for up to 2 years, starting on the date of purchase.
Covered Issues: Both accidents (e.g., broken screen or other damage through drops AND liquid damage including full immersion) and out-of-warranty normal use failures (e.g., battery no longer charging or other hardware failures) are covered. We do not cover loss, theft, willful damage or damage occurring through gross misuse."
This scared the hell out of me, I've never used Squaretrade before. Lets say something goes wrong and I contact them for support... wouldn't they just say "sorry we only cover out-of-warranty repairs you need to go to Samsung U.K. since you have a 1st year warranty through them" ???
Kind of a big purchase (over $600) so I need to be sure that I am covered before pulling the trigger
Also does anyone know the general cost of shipping a galaxy s i9100 from the U.S. to the U.K. for samsung to repair it?
Thanks for you help I really appreciate it.
P.S. in case anyone says to search I already looked through both of the U.S. warranty threads and didn't find an answer
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Simple, throw it into the toiled before claiming the insurance.
Had my Note for exactly one week when yesterday I woke up, turn on my Note and notice a big green line going down the left side of the screen. The rest of the screen is now very dim and barely readable even with the screen brightness cranked up to the max. Did battery pull, then factory reset with no success. Never dropped the phone, I haven't rooted the phone, the only thing I did to it was apply the OTA update to 2.36 the day I got it. Everything else is stock, so it seems to be a hardware issue.
Got the Note through a 3rd party reseller on Amazon.com. When I called them about it they said I had to go thru Samsung warranty and they will only exchange the item if it was broken the first time I tried to turn it on. So I guess I'm on my own.
Called Samsung warranty and was told that since it was an international phone it is not supported by Samsung USA. So it appears I am SOL.
ExpansysUSA on the other hand has a 15 day return policy for any issues and they will help you deal with warranty after the 15 day window is up.
Needless to say I'm depressed...Any suggestions for a course of action is appreciated.
Thanks everybody.
only thing i can think of is if you can still get a squaretrade warranty. I think you may have to wait 60 days before they'll accept a claim, but it may be a better option than having an expensive paper weight.
Kamoteq23 said:
Had my Note for exactly one week when yesterday I woke up, turn on my Note and notice a big green line going down the left side of the screen. The rest of the screen is now very dim and barely readable even with the screen brightness cranked up to the max. Did battery pull, then factory reset with no success. Never dropped the phone, I haven't rooted the phone, the only thing I did to it was apply the OTA update to 2.36 the day I got it. Everything else is stock, so it seems to be a hardware issue.
Got the Note through a 3rd party reseller on Amazon.com. When I called them about it they said I had to go thru Samsung warranty and they will only exchange the item if it was broken the first time I tried to turn it on. So I guess I'm on my own.
Called Samsung warranty and was told that since it was an international phone it is not supported by Samsung USA. So it appears I am SOL.
ExpansysUSA on the other hand has a 15 day return policy for any issues and they will help you deal with warranty after the 15 day window is up.
Needless to say I'm depressed...Any suggestions for a course of action is appreciated.
Thanks everybody.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ask the seller where he purchased the phone from, ship your Note to Samsung in the country of origin. If he bought it in HK, send it to samsung in HK.
They won't be able to tell you it's an international purchase, you are allowed to travel the world with your phone and keep your warranty.
eitama said:
Ask the seller where he purchased the phone from, ship your Note to Samsung in the country of origin. If he bought it in HK, send it to samsung in HK.
They won't be able to tell you it's an international purchase, you are allowed to travel the world with your phone and keep your warranty.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. I had a Polish version from hantec. It had about 3 dead pixels with a line going through them (green colour). Called up Samsung UK and they said I had to contact handtec.
IM sure if you call up the skewing branch where your note is from, you can always send it back to them to get a replacement if you have only had the phone for less than 28 days.
eitama said:
Ask the seller where he purchased the phone from, ship your Note to Samsung in the country of origin. If he bought it in HK, send it to samsung in HK.
They won't be able to tell you it's an international purchase, you are allowed to travel the world with your phone and keep your warranty.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll ask them about it again today when their customer service lines open. The lady that I talked to yesterday coulldn't tell me where they got it from and said that I should ask Samsung International. Hopefully I get someone a little more capable on the line next time...
In the meantime I initiated a return authorization request thru Amazon yesterday to see if this will motivate the seller to be more cooperatve.
If that doesn't work I guess I can file for a claim next.
Wish me luck...
Wish you all the best.
I heard good things about handtec, but I'm buying a Squaretrade warrenty just incase. Their warranty's only covers up to $600 though. So if they have to replace your phone, they just cut you a check for $600....the warranty cost's $124, so your really only getting $476 back. You can buy displays on ebay already, but I'm not sure how hard they would be to install.
Update:
The Vendor insists I contact Samsung for warranty repair/replacement. Samsung Latin America in this case. Contacted Samsung Latin America and was told that Samsung products bought thru Amazon.com aren't covered.
I'm tired of getting the run around, I'm going to file a claim with Amazon and see if that works.
It is very unfortunate. If something happens to my Note then I am not going to be able to claim the warranty too as I got it delivered from outside the country. Overall this is negative PR for Samsung that they fuss to give International warranty.
Kamoteq23 said:
Had my Note for exactly one week when yesterday I woke up, turn on my Note and notice a big green line going down the left side of the screen. The rest of the screen is now very dim and barely readable even with the screen brightness cranked up to the max. Did battery pull, then factory reset with no success. Never dropped the phone, I haven't rooted the phone, the only thing I did to it was apply the OTA update to 2.36 the day I got it. Everything else is stock, so it seems to be a hardware issue.
Got the Note through a 3rd party reseller on Amazon.com. When I called them about it they said I had to go thru Samsung warranty and they will only exchange the item if it was broken the first time I tried to turn it on. So I guess I'm on my own.
Called Samsung warranty and was told that since it was an international phone it is not supported by Samsung USA. So it appears I am SOL.
ExpansysUSA on the other hand has a 15 day return policy for any issues and they will help you deal with warranty after the 15 day window is up.
Needless to say I'm depressed...Any suggestions for a course of action is appreciated.
Thanks everybody.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you pay via Ppal or Credit Card ? If you did, contest the charge stating the item had issues from the beginning that the seller did not resolve. When VisaMC hits them with a chargeback, I will bet the 3rd party vendor will say, OK, send it back and we will replace it. If they purchase direct from Samsung, they can get it fixed. Did the items description explicitly say NO WARRANTY ?
randypurcz said:
Did you pay via Ppal or Credit Card ? If you did, contest the charge stating the item had issues from the beginning that the seller did not resolve. When VisaMC hits them with a chargeback, I will bet the 3rd party vendor will say, OK, send it back and we will replace it. If they purchase direct from Samsung, they can get it fixed. Did the items description explicitly say NO WARRANTY ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From their seller page:
"All products sold by us carry manufacture warranty"
I paid with a credit card. I emailed them one last time telling them Samsung will not cover replacement/repair and asking that they replace my busted Note with a new one. If that doesn't work I'll file a claim with Amazon. I'd rather not intiate a chargeback...yet.
I think you get 45 days to contest a charger? IM sure it varries by the credit card company
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
Update
Got an email from Amazon saying that my claim is denied since the sellers page says that there are no returns on cell phones.
I submitted an appeal stating that the sellers page also says that all products sold by them are covered by manufacturers warranty. Even though Samsung USA and Samsung Latin America won't cover it.
If this doesn't work I'll call my CC company and see about getting a chargeback done.
In the meantime I think I'll order a new Note from the better sellers out there. What do you guys recommend? Expansys USA or Handtec?
Try going through Newegg. If it's bad within 30 days they will refund or replace. Otherwise Handtec is great, but if you need warranty ......
You shouldn't be getting/buying phone from on-line sellers such as on Amazon. It's not true that mobile phone (in general) has an international warranty.
You should really wait for an official release in your country.
Do you know the amazon seller name?
I am looking to buy from amazon and based on your experience now I am worried. Can you tell the name of the seller? I had contacted Global mobile amazon seller and was told for warranty purpose you need to ship it back to their office in Germany and they will take care of it.
diasro said:
I am looking to buy from amazon and based on your experience now I am worried. Can you tell the name of the seller? I had contacted Global mobile amazon seller and was told for warranty purpose you need to ship it back to their office in Germany and they will take care of it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
World Wide Distributors.
The green line on the left is because of the pentile pixel layout, its your green sub pixel.
SquirtingCherry said:
The green line on the left is because of the pentile pixel layout, its your green sub pixel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well he did say a big green line, due to the pentile display it should be like 1 subpixel in thickness not a "big green line" as per OP.
this thread should be stickied. Good info to know when we go about buying a foreign phone