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Hi,
i noticed months ago the following on my IDEOS X5 (german) concerning bad battery life. It could be the reason why there are so many different reports regarding bettery lifetime of the U8800.
First - why did I start to investigate: because the phone sucked about 5-10% per hour while not beeing used / lying on my desk, so after max 20 hours the battery was empty. But this did/does not always happen....
What I did: it took some time to get used to android (its my first droid) and learn how to troubleshoot. A month after I got this phone I learned that the GSM-code *#*#4636#*#* will show you very useful information concenring battery/phone usage. I started to play around with the phone (factory reset, install/remove apps, enable/disable different options like 2G/3G/WLAN etc...) always keeping an eye on the 4636-infos.
Result: When I use WLAN the phone simetimes enters an "state" when it never again enters "sleep state" and the battery gets sucked as stated above. I switched off WLAN for a week and this did not occur while standby time increased to 48 hours and 4636 stated an "phone awake" percentage of below 20% (normal usage). Once I reenabled WLAN again it took about an day of WLAN usage to reproduce the bug and "phone awake" time increased to 100% while standby time decreased to below 20 hours. ONLY rebooting the device recovers from this "state". I further noticed that this does not happen if just WLAN is available but no 2G/3G (phone had no SIM). My conclusion is, that the
"You May Be Charged"-Popup is the culprit. It does lock the phone to this "state" for some reason, mybe when the WLAN connection is dropped while the phone is not used (traveling). Can someone reproduce this on his phone (maybe not german)?
Resolution: IMHO none. I send the device twice to reseller for service. First time the complete mainboard was changed without success regarding the battery drain. Second time nothing was done - they just returned the device to me.
Thanks.
This is a known problem, that already has a thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043760
This is affecting ALL Froyo Roms, if you want battery life, install Oxygen or CM7...which are based on Gingerbread.
There is no point in discussing this issue anymore, this is a very well known problem and Huawei doesn't care.
Sending the phone back to manufacturer won't help at all.
Thank you for the hint - it realy looks like the same issue. Knowing more about the nature of this issue could give people not willing to install custom roms a possible solution. Can someone move this thread over to that one?
katu2006 said:
This is a known problem, that already has a thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043760
This is affecting ALL Froyo Roms, if you want battery life, install Oxygen or CM7...which are based on Gingerbread.
There is no point in discussing this issue anymore, this is a very well known problem and Huawei doesn't care.
Sending the phone back to manufacturer won't help at all.
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But Huawei is about to release official 2.3 in Q3 atleast I hope...
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But Huawei is about to release official 2.3 in Q3 atleast I hope...
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Everyone is looking forward to official 2.3, but we'll have to wait and see if the "sleep" bug will be sorted.
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Everyone is looking forward to official 2.3, but we'll have to wait and see if the "sleep" bug will be sorted.
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I hope some more bugs are straightened out like headphones and internal mic at the same time. Headset button to work. Battery time!
none of my android phones could use the phone's mic when headphones were plugged in
I saw a solution for the mic-with-headphones-problem a few days ago, either here or at modaco (do not know if it is confirmed working though).
fajabird, I know that you want this to work with the ROMs provided by Huawei. Huawei obviously does not care too much about providing the community with updates (they do not even have gingerbread-support by now). This is the downside of this low priced phone.
Let me just say this: It took me about one hour to understand the ultimate-guide at modaco. It took me another hour to decide which ROM I want to use. If anything goes wrong at the installation I can easily start over again. Now I have a fully working phone with Android 2.3.5 with a battery that lasts at least 2 days, sometimes 3(if I do not play any games within that time). Of course I understand that you are probably very pissed at Huawei for providing a ROM with a bug that serious.
if you find that fix again, let us know where to look
darkado said:
if you find that fix again, let us know where to look
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It is to be found at the Android-development-section, right here. Note that you cannot use the mic of your headset after applying this
too bad, it would be awesome to be able to use both
XphX said:
I saw a solution for the mic-with-headphones-problem a few days ago, either here or at modaco (do not know if it is confirmed working though).
fajabird, I know that you want this to work with the ROMs provided by Huawei. Huawei obviously does not care too much about providing the community with updates (they do not even have gingerbread-support by now). This is the downside of this low priced phone.
Let me just say this: It took me about one hour to understand the ultimate-guide at modaco. It took me another hour to decide which ROM I want to use. If anything goes wrong at the installation I can easily start over again. Now I have a fully working phone with Android 2.3.5 with a battery that lasts at least 2 days, sometimes 3(if I do not play any games within that time). Of course I understand that you are probably very pissed at Huawei for providing a ROM with a bug that serious.
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Hi, thank you for sharing your experience with me. I always wanted to update to some custom roms but the time I started investigating this issue there was no stable one out there. On the other hand I thought there might be a dev interessted in more details regarding this issue helping him to sort out this nasty bug for whatever reason.
Can someone tell me, if his U8800 also has the ambient light sensor but like mine does: it won't reduce the brightness, just increase works. Thanks.
fajabird said:
Hi, thank you for sharing your experience with me. I always wanted to update to some custom roms but the time I started investigating this issue there was no stable one out there. On the other hand I thought there might be a dev interessted in more details regarding this issue helping him to sort out this nasty bug for whatever reason.
Can someone tell me, if his U8800 also has the ambient light sensor but like mine does: it won't reduce the brightness, just increase works. Thanks.
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Mine reduces brightness but does it quite weird sometimes like adjusting several times without the light around me changing...
Mine always adjusts it way too low. If I am inside the brightness is always on minimum. I use the power-widget on the homescreen. I only change it at night, it is on max. for the whole day (the max. brightness is still kinda low, especially if it's sunny).
fajabird said:
Hi,
i noticed months ago the following on my IDEOS X5 (german) concerning bad battery life. It could be the reason why there are so many different reports regarding bettery lifetime of the U8800.
First - why did I start to investigate: because the phone sucked about 5-10% per hour while not beeing used / lying on my desk, so after max 20 hours the battery was empty. But this did/does not always happen....
What I did: it took some time to get used to android (its my first droid) and learn how to troubleshoot. A month after I got this phone I learned that the GSM-code *#*#4636#*#* will show you very useful information concenring battery/phone usage. I started to play around with the phone (factory reset, install/remove apps, enable/disable different options like 2G/3G/WLAN etc...) always keeping an eye on the 4636-infos.
Result: When I use WLAN the phone simetimes enters an "state" when it never again enters "sleep state" and the battery gets sucked as stated above. I switched off WLAN for a week and this did not occur while standby time increased to 48 hours and 4636 stated an "phone awake" percentage of below 20% (normal usage). Once I reenabled WLAN again it took about an day of WLAN usage to reproduce the bug and "phone awake" time increased to 100% while standby time decreased to below 20 hours. ONLY rebooting the device recovers from this "state". I further noticed that this does not happen if just WLAN is available but no 2G/3G (phone had no SIM). My conclusion is, that the
"You May Be Charged"-Popup is the culprit. It does lock the phone to this "state" for some reason, mybe when the WLAN connection is dropped while the phone is not used (traveling). Can someone reproduce this on his phone (maybe not german)?
Resolution: IMHO none. I send the device twice to reseller for service. First time the complete mainboard was changed without success regarding the battery drain. Second time nothing was done - they just returned the device to me.
Thanks.
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Hey there friend, I've detailed much of this and been through a lot of troubleshooting. It did not appear to be the "You may be charged" popup as I disabled that whenever I changed ROMs. I never did get a solution for any of the Huawei ROMs, it just seemed like bad code as Dzo pointed out with the WiFi driver.
A very simple solution for me was installing one of the 2.3 ROMs, they are quite stable at the moment, especially Oxygen (although I use MIUI). You will find much better battery life with these.
Best of luck,
Ryan
My stock rom 2.2.1 Shows Android System 97% battery usage and battery drains 50% in 19minutes! With wi-fi, 3g, Bluetooth, everything is off and even i do not use it.
Flash latest official 2.2.2, wait for official 2.3, flash the custom 2.2.2 rom void or flash a custom 2.3 rom. I would recommend flashing the latest 138 or 162 to get the latest modem baseband or manually install the AMSS.bin.
Sent from my Ideos x5
andreasha said:
Flash latest official 2.2.2, wait for official 2.3, flash the custom 2.2.2 rom void or flash a custom 2.3 rom. I would recommend flashing the latest 138 or 162 to get the latest modem baseband or manually install the AMSS.bin.
Sent from my Ideos x5
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I can't because phone do not use my external SD card somehow. In android i see files but in recovery-it does not use external sd.. I ask in forum why-but nobody answers
Backup ur data on it and format it. If that doesnt work ill send you a guide how i fixed mine, its just a partition error.
Sent from my Ideos x5
andreasha said:
Backup ur data on it and format it. If that doesnt work ill send you a guide how i fixed mine, its just a partition error.
Sent from my Ideos x5
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I formated it via phone, then via PC - it works in powered on phone in android, but in recovery it doesn't it only sees sdcard as internal memory, if i try mount sd-ext shows error, can't mount.
Also i have problem if i use pc to copy some files to internal memory-phone switches storage mode OFF! and i can't copy files to internal 2GB memory..strange
I've noticed this phone has hit or miss battery life depending on what you have installed, greenified and frozen. I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread where everyone could share their battery life tips and tricks on this phone.
Below I posted what I have done to maximize battery life. I have not rooted my phone yet, so none of the below tips require root.
I disabled all bloatware apps that came with the phone. I did not disable any of the Asus applications.
I utilize the Asus autostart manger and denied auto start to all my applications except music applications, messenger applications, and google photo sync.
battery sucks. drain to much.
Just use until you have 5% free battery, this should make at least your day
With Android OS taking so much thanks to lollipop, there is not a lot to hope.
We wont see a good battery improvement until we get 5.1
Luckily, that is in the future for this device acc. to Asus.
Since the issue seems to primarily be Android os draining the battery I don't think most battery saving measures will make a difference. We will just have to wait for an update
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
facelessloser said:
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
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I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
marcof93 said:
I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
facelessloser said:
Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
marcof93 said:
I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
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I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
facelessloser said:
I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
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Glad you solved, but don't know why, maybe they are working hard on the firmware and there are lot of changes that can cause problem, maybe we have to wipe after every update, Intel processor and Lollipop are so unstable right now!
toebus said:
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
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It helps..i turned andriod device manager too
Ok so this is my battery with a normal day of use... Tomorrow ill show the results with your sugestions. My normal days have gsm calls(normal phone calls) whasapp (chat) youtube, twich, game like plant vs zombies 2, look at gmail, surfing internet, taking pics like 25 today.
I notice that battery drains a lot more while photo app open.
I use doble sim as you can see
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
Sammaul said:
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
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Really interesting app ill download tomorrow im tring to lock some functionalities from google like sending data for app security and after that will download this and tell you what i got
Thank u sir thats a good one
Everyone is always wondering about Android using the most battery. Without doing some in depth debugging and tracing I would guess Houdini falls under Android. Because the ZenFone 2 uses the Intel processor a binary conversion for ARM instructions takes place with Houdini. More than likely you have a lot of apps native for ARM.
Force closing asus support app and zenui services app from apps setting gives me good amount of battery boost. Apart I have also disabled google books, movies, plus etc. I don't know if its placebo effect but someone can try and confirm. These app tend to restart at times so if you feel the battery decreasing at high rates again, make sure you force close them again.
Roughly speaking, I tend to get 3-5 min per percentage of screen on time with this which totals to 5 to 6 hrs on SOT on continous usage. Without the apps being force closed, I barely get 2min/%. The usage scenarios are normal web browsing, chats etc. This is using mobile data. It gets even better with wifi.
Try and let me know if this helps.
Maybe I don't use my phone as much as other people. I posted this last night on another forum. My phone was unplugged at 07:00, It's now 21:00. I have 80% battery left and the battery monitor shows 3 days left
I have received email, 3 phone calls and text messages. I checked Twitter a couple of times with the browser. I have read Google News a couple of times and played GSN Casino for about 20 minutes.
In Auto Start Manager I turned off Docs, Sheets, Skype, Slides, Translate, Amazon Kindle, Data Transfer and Web Storage. Everything else is Allow, but I have no social networking applications installed.
Its looks like battery life is a right mixed bag. At the start of the week I was suffering wake lock issue, my phone wouldn't go into deep sleep and was constantly awake. I wiped and restored from backup which seams to fix the issue.
Got up this morning and it looks like the wake lock issue is back. I don't know what to do to fix it.
Feel like giving up on the phone and sending it back if I can
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
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and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
ADM!RAL said:
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
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and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
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Little more details about rom,kernel but wifi is destroying your battery,that is for sure. It's waking the phone thousands of time as you can see yourself
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
Stevica Smederevac said:
Little more details about rom,kernel but wifi is destroying your battery,that is for sure. It's waking the phone thousands of time as you can see yourself
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
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yea i noticed that i read about something related to wifi driver issue idk
thx for reply tho and for my device it's stock D800y20 rom just rooted and even with stock recovery if it matter
This has started for me today also! Not sure what is causing it but I was fine prior to today. Maybe its a google Play services update?
keeepinitgansta said:
This has started for me today also! Not sure what is causing it but I was fine prior to today. Maybe its a google Play services update?
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idk but last google play service update was 10 days ago here !!
ADM!RAL said:
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
Edit: SS Added
and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
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Hello,
I have at 80% the same problem, I loose 7-10% of battery per hours, without SIM, wifi, bluetooth...
I already tried most of all roms, kernel, try all cpu governor.
If you want to see my topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/lg-g2-d802-battery-draining-5-0-2-t3256313/
If you are ready to dismantlle the phone, do it, and see if there is a problem inside. I hope you will resolve your problem and tell me if one day you gonna have a better battery
Dlazzy said:
Hello,
I have at 80% the same problem, I loose 7-10% of battery per hours, without SIM, wifi, bluetooth...
I already tried most of all roms, kernel, try all cpu governor.
If you want to see my topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/lg-g2-d802-battery-draining-5-0-2-t3256313/
If you are ready to dismantlle the phone, do it, and see if there is a problem inside. I hope you will resolve your problem and tell me if one day you gonna have a better battery
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yea almost identical problem
i did tot reinstall and see how things go !!
sadly nothing changed and wifi still eats huge amount of battery idk how did this happen
well i'll update thread if anything changed
peace out guys
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
stan54 said:
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
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How is dorimanx kernel bad? How many user downloads he has,lots and lots then are we thousands of user wrong using a bad kernel, come on . Maybe it didnt work for you. But out of those thousands of users cant be wrong. If it was that bad no one would download. Just saying , you should just say it didnt work for you.
stan54 said:
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
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Can you tell us what app have you uninstalled and disable ?
What have you debloat ?
Thank you very much
My G2 (vs980) has also been suffering from a sudden battery drain. Android OS and Android System seem to be the problem. They are now second and third on the list of battery usage, after the screen. Before now, they were never that high on the list. I noticed this last weekend, when I kdz to the latest update for the vs980, which is 3AA. After noticing this, I flashed the xceed kernel, then cloudy with dorimanx kernel, and the battery drain continued. I even kdz back to kitkat, still the same, then I flashed AICP 11, and still the same battery drain by Android OS and system. Finally, I restored a backup of stock lollipop 39A but, the issue continued so I turned on airplane mode and it seems to help a bit. I still notice battery life isn't the same as before. The os and system still drain more than usual even on airplane mode.
Kind of glad to hear I'm not the only one with this issue. I don't think I need a new battery, since I bought the phone new in April 2015 from Bestbuy.
Also Gsam, shows the temperature of phone between 80°-90°F, where before it would be in the low to mid 70s. One time, it even got up to 104°F, funny thing is, it doesn't even feel that hot in my hand.
Hopefully, we can find out what's causing this because I really liked the battery life on this phone. Even when people complained about the battery life being worse on 5.0.2, I was pretty happy with it. All my previous phones can't compare to the g2. Now I feel like upgrading though lol.
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raptorddd said:
How is dorimanx kernel bad? How many user downloads he has,lots and lots then are we thousands of user wrong using a bad kernel, come on . Maybe it didnt work for you. But out of those thousands of users cant be wrong. If it was that bad no one would download. Just saying , you should just say it didnt work for you.
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When I tried the version that was out a month or two ago it wasn't nearly as smooth as stock, even after conservatively messing with the kernel app settings. The worst was that it also cut out tethering and my flashlight when the screen shut off. Maybe the recent updates have fixed some of the issues, but I doubt it. Could be that he doesn't have access to the sprint variant which I have...
Either way, just because 'thousands' of people use it doesn't necessarily mean that it's good - 99.9% of those users have no idea how to code or how a kernel is written. Their knowledge goes as far as following picture guides online - which a 5 years old could do. Just look at the most recent change log - those 'fixes' were to glaringly huge problems that shouldn't have been made in the first place and people were blissfully using it the whole time. Think about how many thousands of other bugs their must be. Not to mention hacking up code made by professionals at huge companies could lead to many other problems. Obliviously the stock kernel has bugs as well, but it works and is fast and stable so I see no need for using a hacked together kernel made by one amateur that doesn't even have my version of the phone to test it on. I wanted it to be good - which Is why I went to the trouble of installing it, but it's definitely NOT.
Dlazzy said:
Can you tell us what app have you uninstalled and disable ?
What have you debloat ?
Thank you very much
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I uninstalled ALL of the stock apps that can be uninstalled. The ones I disabled are aosp keyboard, app updates, browser, calendar, cloud print, favorite contact widget, google play books, games, movies & tv, newstand, google+, lg voice command speech pack, music, music(the widget - it always runs in the background even without being on the homescreen), notebook, polaris viewer, quicktranslator, swype, talkback, voice command. I would have liked to disable a few more but I'm not rooted so I couldn't.
I use nearly all of the google products like chrome,gmail, calendar, docs, keep, music, photos, news and weather,translate,etc...so having the stock lg ones enabled was redundant. I also only have the bare minimum of installed apps that I need. Nearly all of them are made my major corporations i.e Chase, BofA, ebay, paypal, freedompop, microsoft, swiftkey etc. I have NO games or any small apps that need a ton of permissions. The only small apps are feedly, print hammermill, privacy flashlight(240kb, no ads, no permissions) and bubble level(180kb, no ads, no permissions).
I also go through every settings in every app to make sure it's what I want. And I restart my phone every time I take it off the charger. IMO having a clean and no frills system that is set correctly is the key to performance and battery life.
I just want want to clarify that I average 4-5hrs per 1% in standby since it doesn't seem to hold as well as it gets closer to 0%.
theres this app that have lots of info on battery..
thx guys for adding your experience
i hoped moded kernels would've reduced that amount as they should have necessary drivers for wifi which was somehow got messed up but from your reply i guess i've to look somewhere else
idk how to put this, well this isn't a solution at all i actually didn't start working on it yet just thought to share what i found so far !!
so it's just a reference for any one whose luck was bad enough to have a wakelock like that !
1st of all in most cases neither the device nor it's battery are at fault *you need to understand that*
faulty battery doesn't show up kernel related wakelocks instead they drain without a reason so i hope ppl stop accusing battery in every battery drain thread!
2nd after understanding that you'll have to deal with the environment your phone is used in
to put it simple it's your router and all devices in your current network !! (idk though why not all devices get affected by that or why it just started now, tough luck yea)
those threads may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31975007&postcount=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/getting-rid-wlanrxwake-wakelocks-t2519294
what i'll try to do is add an old access point to my router and connect my phone to it as i don't have a replacement router right now!!
i'll let you know if things were improved !
hey guys
i thought to share what i did so far and before i go on there is a bad news and a good news !!
i would start with the bad news first !
-no rom could solve this issue so you don't really need to format everything and start from scratch especially if you didn't mess around too much and you found it started suddenly like here, i've tried couple of roms including latest CM13 build it wasn't that bad but it didn't solve the drain that much either !!
-now some ppl may see this bad and some may don't care (which means good!!) google services are the ones responsible for this drain
well man you didn't come up with anything new and i see you've got a problem getting straight to the point besides you talk too much
i'm sorry
now you have to sacrifice your google services background sync including "GCM" if you are using any services similar to pushbullet or notification mirroring you'd understand why it's important
anyway if you are good with that you may install and yea it works with latest google play services
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playfulgeeks.gservicefix
and do as instructions (and believe it'll work if you did steps right)
if you prefer manual way then you'll need "app ops xposed module" and deactivate every "wake up" permission from google services
this guide may help but remember we don't have tools natively in our roms so don't bother downloading "shortcut maker" and go through your settings app to find "privacy guard" or "app ops" we don't have those natively like them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
i'll share some ss from stock battery stats
i'm sorry for my long post and i hope it'll help someone with same issue
idk if it solved issue completely but things are stabilized a lot now and i just lost 1% over night not 20% or 30% like before !!
and i'm using lollipop now so i guess it's not that bad for what i heard about bad lollipop battery since it's my first time trying it !!
and btw real SOT should be +40 mins so the real SOT is 2H-47M cuz i restarted my phone to apply that fix and for some reason battery stats doesn't stick between reboots !!
if anyone interested in trying that rom it's for D800 only btw and thx to @Swetnes for his work rom feels pretty stable and solid :good:
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-g2/development/rom-t3152368/
good luck everyone
hi MI A1 owners.
for those brave enough to use the latest vanilla, official OTA rom, what change did you notice?
does the battery still suffer huge drain that appeared in 2018 roms?
it's a big "NOPE" for me to update, i'm still on official DEC rom because of this drain issue.
Battery life is good on 8.1 no issue for me getting 5-6 hours SOT on gaming.
Never had battery drain problems. Only "issue" is notification led not blinking.
Just noticed that led light is no longer blinking when notifications arrive. Light stays on only when screen is off. Also Bluetooth is constantly disconnecting.
Ambient display isn't working for me.
Led notifier is also not blinking anymore!
Led not blinking, proximity sensor doesn't work properly all the time, some scrolling lag. That's what I've got so far
dudes thanks for your answers.
i'm just more convinced to not doing the update.
maybe the drain i had was magisk-related. (?)
Nothing for me, even got ten hours of screen after some cycles. Led doesn't bother me and it's the only thing i noticed.
Yes, the LED is always on, which is annoying, but the bigger issue is there is no change in the battery drain. I charged to 100%, set the phone down and did not move it or use it overnight. 8 hours later almost 14% of battery was drained. I have tried everything I can think of to try, including turning off high accuracy location, not allowing any location things like safe area, etc. and still I get this drain even when the phone is not in use. Android kernel and system consumed 85% of that usage, and System UI, Play Store and Phone Services accounted for 7%! SO basically, basic Android paired with the A1 hardware seems to be the issue and I don't know that there is any fix for that.
At one point, I thought an upgrade to the A2 was going to be a no brainer, but with the issues with updates being broken and this battery drain issue that nobody seems to be able to pinpoint and resolve, I am thinking I may not buy ANY other Xiaomi. It may be time to try something else because the only way I can get two days of battery is to turn on airplane mode when the phone is not in use!
KB_Thailand said:
8 hours later almost 14% of battery was drained.
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Dunno what to say man. Mine is below.
2-3% at most over night.
And now it would appear that there is an issue with airplane mode.
I put the phone into Airplane mode at 2300 last night with 90% battery and did not pay attention to it. This morning I turned to phone on to find there was only 69% battery left, and WiFi was working. (see screen shot) WTF???? I have started using airplane mode to keep the battery drain to a minimum when the phone is not in use, and now it would appear that this doesn't work either.
I am REALLY getting frustrated with Android and Xiaomi as it seems that every time they do an update, something else goes bump! I have gone from totally happy with the AI when I first got it to being ready to write off Xiaomi as a company I would consider for purchase.
IjazCI said:
Is your WiFi scanning is on. ( Under location / scanning)
Play services also cause these type of sudden battery losses.
Try downloading latest play services apk from apkmirror . Latest one is
"com.google.android.gms_12.8.74_(090408-204998136)-12874034_minAPI26(arm64-v8a,armeabi-v7a)(480dpi)_apkmirror.com.apk"
Uninstall your current one. Install this .
Power off your phone for a few seconds and reboot.
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Thanks for the thoughts, but unless I totally misunderstand what airplane mode is, WiFi should not be active when airplane mode is invoked. You can see by the screen cap that airplane mode is on AND WiFi is active. This seems to be a one off as it has not happened again for the last two days. I turn airplane mode on to stop the overnight battery drain while the phone is doing nothing. I have location set to GPS Only. IIRC play services was just updated 3 days or so ago, so it should have the latest version. I will check it and see though. Again, thanks for the thoughts.
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At one point, I thought an upgrade to the A2 was going to be a no brainer, but with the issues with updates being broken and this battery drain issue that nobody seems to be able to pinpoint and resolve, I am thinking I may not buy ANY other Xiaomi. It may be time to try something else because the only way I can get two days of battery is to turn on airplane mode when the phone is not in use!
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I can't logically understand why you would think it is the hardware causing the issue. If it was hardware, what you are seeing would be happening to every owner of the phone and clearly that is not happening. By saying it is the hardware when you have other software loaded is akin to saying your car's air conditioning doesn't work properly when you have all the windows wound down.
There is something loaded on your phone that is causing the systemUI to be working when you think nothing should be happening. The first thing I see on the screenshot on your phone is that in the top left of the screen you have two non standard icons. That tells me that you have a skin or non standard software constantly running.
The way to solve any issue like this is to go back to basics. I would get the fresh rom and do a Miflash whilst keeping your data. Make sure you do a backup first.
If that does not work, back up your data and do a clean install and check the phone's battery life. Do not load any non google software / app at this stage.
Then each day add one app and test for 24 hours. You will find this issue and the offending app or apps and I would be willing to bet you a few Singhas it will be an app you downloaded not the hardware causing this.
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I can't logically understand why you would think it is the hardware causing the issue. If it was hardware, what you are seeing would be happening to every owner of the phone and clearly that is not happening. By saying it is the hardware when you have other software loaded is akin to saying your car's air conditioning doesn't work properly when you have all the windows wound down.
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Actually, I think it is a combination of hardware/software, but that is just a WAG. Others have noted the exact same issue without running the same software. My bet would be on the RCS services stuff.
There is something loaded on your phone that is causing the systemUI to be working when you think nothing should be happening. The first thing I see on the screenshot on your phone is that in the top left of the screen you have two non standard icons. That tells me that you have a skin or non standard software constantly running.
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Those icons are my Email client and GSAM Battery Monitor (presently 0.1% and 0.8%) and are the only two constantly running programs other than the stock apps and Sophos (0.3%). Neither use much battery compared to the Android stuff. Presently Kernel is 41.6%, RCS/Phone is 30.3%. SystemUI is 3.3%, Play Services is 2.0% and Phone Services is 1.8%
The way to solve any issue like this is to go back to basics. I would get the fresh rom and do a Miflash whilst keeping your data. Make sure you do a backup first.
If that does not work, back up your data and do a clean install and check the phone's battery life. Do not load any non google software / app at this stage.
Then each day add one app and test for 24 hours. You will find this issue and the offending app or apps and I would be willing to bet you a few Singhas it will be an app you downloaded not the hardware causing this.
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Good advice. I will do this when I have a few days to play with it. In the interim, it's airplane mode every night. Thanks for the reply. If it turns out to be one of these apps, let me know where to send the Singhas.
Good luck with it. I hope you find the solution. It can be frustrating, but getting to the bottom of it will be worthwhile. I haven't used Sophos for a long time and even then it was for PC. I am not up with how Sophos AV is integrating into Android but that would be my first guess.
I have only had one issue with this phone after updating and it was that the OS was constantly asking for a password on unlock after using fingerprint not just on startup. A clean install solved it and I have been trouble free since with every update. With over 50 PCs in my office, I could only wish that I had so few issues with Windows updates as I do with Android.
For me, night light auto schedule not working properly.
I can't tether via wifi/bluetoth/usb
Made another post with the problem.
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Good luck with it. I hope you find the solution. It can be frustrating, but getting to the bottom of it will be worthwhile. I haven't used Sophos for a long time and even then it was for PC. I am not up with how Sophos AV is integrating into Android but that would be my first guess.
I have only had one issue with this phone after updating and it was that the OS was constantly asking for a password on unlock after using fingerprint not just on startup. A clean install solved it and I have been trouble free since with every update. With over 50 PCs in my office, I could only wish that I had so few issues with Windows updates as I do with Android.
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Just for grins and giggles, I uninstalled my email client, GSAM, and Sophos, the only programs that run constantly other than system and Line. I then turned my phone off and back on, forced stopped Line, charged it to 100% and set it down with the screen off. It did not move of get used for 8 hours, yet it still used 12% of the battery. (see screenshots) This is better than the 20% with those apps installed, but still not close to what I would consider normal. When I first got the phone, it easily lasted 2-3 days between charges, with 6-7 hours SoT. Overnight would use MAYBE 2% of the battery. Now if I want it to last 2 days I need to turn on airplane mode overnight and then I can make it through a day.
So I guess the next step is to do as you recommended and load up the fresh rom when I have time to mess with it. At least I am now pretty sure that those apps aren't the culprits causing the biggest part of the battery drain. I hate to do it, but I am seriously thinking of a factory reset and seeing if that clears the issue. Would that put me back to Nougat?
IjazCI said:
I always disable carrier services apk. As rcs is not here in India.
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How do you disable this apk? I seriously think this is the major culprit in the battery drain.
KB_Thailand said:
charged it to 100% and set it down with the screen off. It did not move of get used for 8 hours, yet it still used 12% of the battery. (see screenshots) This is better than the 20% with those apps installed,
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So those apps were causing 40% of of the 20% of the battery drain. That is a good start. I am confident there are software issues with your phone. I see you have some GPS app on your home screen, if that was running askew, it might be constantly pinging. That is just a guess.
In things like this, work methodically through it. But of cause a hard reset would be the best way to go. I see no reason why you wouldn't stay on your current version after a hard reset.
If you want to go make to version 7 you would need to use the MiFlash program and a downloaded standard fastboot rom. You may need to do something else to the phone to go back to 7, but I would not think so.
Hello, there is a problem with the phone, the idle battery drain is too high, something is keeping it awake.
I've attached the screenshots of battery stats.
My mother is using the phone, so I don't have it with me all the time.
Any help is much appreciated!
adsubzero said:
Hello, there is a problem with the phone, the idle battery drain is too high, something is keeping it awake.
I've attached the screenshots of battery stats.
My mother is using the phone, so I don't have it with me all the time.
Any help is much appreciated!
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Well Android system has lots of packages, check what packages are activated that includes ones in notification bar, GPS, NFC, Backup, Bluetooth, etc. They all absorb power at some point if they are always on it can drain the battery power. Also go to Settings / Autostart and check what packages are enabled to autostart.
hwandroid said:
Well Android system has lots of packages, check what packages are activated that includes ones in notification bar, GPS, NFC, Backup, Bluetooth, etc. They all absorb power at some point if they are always on it can drain the battery power. Also go to Settings / Autostart and check what packages are enabled to autostart.
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This was with mobile data mostly disabled, and gps was not used heavily, as you can see from the screenshot.
I'll get back when I get more info.
Btw what I forgot to mention, the phone is brand new, like it was freshly set up a couple of days ago, and the baterry was bad since the first day.
She doesn't have a lot of apps, so it's really weird to see this battery drain.
What should I be looking for in the autostart settings?
adsubzero said:
This was with mobile data mostly disabled, and gps was not used heavily, as you can see from the screenshot.
I'll get back when I get more info.
Btw what I forgot to mention, the phone is brand new, like it was freshly set up a couple of days ago, and the baterry was bad since the first day.
She doesn't have a lot of apps, so it's really weird to see this battery drain.
What should I be looking for in the autostart settings?
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It says Android system 34% that is too much, if you click on Android system it will list you the services and more info on power drain. For example on my device Android system does not go higher 15% usually, I have disabled autostart for the apps and services I don't really need to be running in background.
You can debloat the ROM by using xiaomi adb tools, no root needed. Then I believe battery will be much better. Search the thread in the forum
it's here, the second post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/debloating-mi-9t-t3958145
Also turn sync apps off automaticly.
hwandroid said:
It says Android system 34% that is too much, if you click on Android system it will list you the services and more info on power drain. For example on my device Android system does not go higher 15% usually, I have disabled autostart for the apps and services I don't really need to be running in background.
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Yes, I've seen that it lists all the processes under Android system, but that didn't mean much, because there's a lot of them and it doesn't specify what drains the battery the most or any other details.
SUMMERBREEZE said:
You can debloat the ROM by using xiaomi adb tools, no root needed. Then I believe battery will be much better. Search the thread in the forum
it's here, the second post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/debloating-mi-9t-t3958145
Also turn sync apps off automaticly.
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Perhaps the sync is on, and that might be what's causing the drain, I'll look into it.
Speaking of debloating, is there a fail safe of some kind? If something goes wrong, would a factory reset bring back the disabled/removed modules?
Thanks to both of you for the help.
I'll see if any of that fixes the issue.
adsubzero said:
Perhaps the sync is on, and that might be what's causing the drain, I'll look into it.
Speaking of debloating, is there a fail safe of some kind? If something goes wrong, would a factory reset bring back the disabled/removed modules?
Thanks to both of you for the help.
I'll see if any of that fixes the issue.
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I think the program list only the apps that are safe to debloat and also it just disable so choose the one you don't like and leave the ones you are not sure about and if you want to know about them Google is you best friend
i have this issue as well and i think it appeared when i started using chinese vendor
adsubzero said:
Perhaps the sync is on, and that might be what's causing the drain, I'll look into it.
Speaking of debloating, is there a fail safe of some kind? If something goes wrong, would a factory reset bring back the disabled/removed modules?
Thanks to both of you for the help.
I'll see if any of that fixes the issue.
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Factory reset would bring everything back of course but not necessary. The debloat app will bring everything back if you need. You can read many people wrote that it fixed their battery drain issue.
SUMMERBREEZE said:
Factory reset would bring everything back of course but not necessary. The debloat app will bring everything back if you need. You can read many people wrote that it fixed their battery drain issue.
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Indeed, I believe that debloating fixed, or at least alleviated the issue.
Thanks to everyone for the help.
I haven't updated my Xiaomi Mi 9T yet to MIUI 11. And I don't have any problem with the battery on MIUI 10. Should I wait until this bug is patched to get the update ?
Hussein912 said:
I haven't updated my Xiaomi Mi 9T yet to MIUI 11. And I don't have any problem with the battery on MIUI 10. Should I wait until this bug is patched to get the update ?
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It's hardly a bug you just have to manually configure the apps that you want to autostart in background.
Hussein912 said:
I haven't updated my Xiaomi Mi 9T yet to MIUI 11. And I don't have any problem with the battery on MIUI 10. Should I wait until this bug is patched to get the update ?
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I would definately wait. Since MIUI 11 both my wifes and my own phone have massive drain issues. They work fine for days and all of a sudden they fully drain within a few hours without noticing any app really doing anything.
Mine is more or less fully debloated and my wifes is not but has only a few apps.
I think there is really something wrong with the update.
hwandroid said:
It's hardly a bug you just have to manually configure the apps that you want to autostart in background.
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You know nothing. Is a major bug. Was present in miui 10 and is worse in miui 11.
So is debloat necessary again after updating to MIUI 11 (I disabled the apps, didn't remove them)?
Same finding here
(And maybe an ongoing solution)
hwandroid said:
It's hardly a bug you just have to manually configure the apps that you want to autostart in background.
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How do I know which apps need to be autostart and which not? Example, I have sharing of my location set up with someone. How do I know if google maps needs to be autostarted, or it's handeled by some api?
It's a huge problem for me. It keeps happening and reappearing every few days.
d.a.v.o.r said:
How do I know which apps need to be autostart and which not? Example, I have sharing of my location set up with someone. How do I know if google maps needs to be autostarted, or it's handeled by some api?
It's a huge problem for me. It keeps happening and reappearing every few days.
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Turn all off, its the same, wont break anything.
Any solutions? Happened for the first time for me too.