Hi sent my Z3+ to Sony for repair since the camera was closing in seconds
Now the phone behaves much better, doesnt overheat like it did before
But CPU -Z showed clocked at 1.6
384-1.56
Is that normal, just wanted to know,Thanks
It's clocked at 2GHz (Big) / 1.56GHz(Little) - you can verify by profiling with trepn. FYI, CPU-Z is a buggy mess. It only 'tries' to tell you the current freq - not the max freq. Check these two attachments from CPU-Z. One says I have 8 a53s - LMAO
I'm sure this is there quick fix for the heat issue. sometimes it makes it mind up on what freq to use.boot from cool showes 1.96 run the phone a bit clocked at 1.56.
sony/snap have to look at this which is why its taken so long. id be expecting a custom governor anf fix the fact its runnin 6 cores while at home.
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Hi guys, like I said in the title, is it because the phone is not doing heavy tasks? And will the cpu ever run at 1Ghz at all?
just being curious...
Interesting... mine's showing 400mhz (idle). afaik those chips should run @ 600mhz when idle, not 400mhz.
I presume that you can ignore that, as long as your stock firmware (unrooted/unlagfixed) gives you a result of 900(~).
ye it'll run at 1GHz if you're not using any overclocking kernal along with SetCPU. it's on a "on-demand" governer that basically uses more CPU juice as more CPU heavy tasks are carried out.
I've looked around and haven't found much. I anyone know what would be a good overclocked setting but save alot of battery?
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It varies from phone to phone, unfortunately.
Jrummy's "Android Overclock" is what I personally use...
My settings are:
Low Voltage 1.2GHz Preset (Set at Boot)
And I then enable profiles for some battery saving.
Profiles:
Screen off %100 priority 800MHz max 400MHz min.
Temp > 42c %90 priority 800MHz max 400MHz min.
Battery < 30% %80 priority 800MHz max 400MHz min.
Screen On %70 priority 1200MHz max 400MHz min.
This ensures my phone is at 800MHz while the screen is off or while the temp is high or while my battery is low (I like that one so I can draw the last little bit of battery out a bit.) I put the Screen On profile just as a fail-safe to make sure I revert to 1.2 max while the screen is on unless the other conditions are met.
You can even make your screen off profile all the way down to 400MHz max and min...but that just makes me nervous for some reason.
I never had a problem for the few days that I used it, but I'm a bit OCD with some things.
I was worried that I wouldn't receive calls or my alarm wouldn't work or something like that.
Hopefully this helps a bit.
Try that as a starting point, and adjust as you see fit.
Awesome this helps alot, i have a few profiles set, mainly so up like yours lol, ill looking the lower voltage cause before when i was overclocked I drained battery like no tommrow
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Hi guys,
I'm trying to understand how and how much thermal throttling influences my LG G2 performance while using games; to achieve this I need some app that can show me, in real time, osd on-screen-display while I'm playing, the usage of the 4 cores of the snapdragon800. I'm more interested in their frequencies than in load percentage.
I tried to search on the web, but I didn't find what I'm looking for, but, I saw a video (this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Z6_nx1bUU ) in which there is exactly the app I'm searching for (the one on top left "multicore usage" ... I don't know if other boxes are from the same app).
Someone knows this app's name? or can recommend me an app with the same features?
Hey!
While I don't have the knowledge of an app that does exactly what you want, I've read countless times that the SD800 starts at max load and then throttles down as the CPU gets hotter. It would be interesting to see exactly HOW much it uses.
What I've done, though, is to start playing Asphalt 8 and having a CPU monitor from Android System Tuner on my home screen. I'd then play a bit, then quickly go home and open the CPU monitor. First 5 minutes it was at 2.26Ghz, then it throttled down to 1.95 Ghz and finally after about 10 minutes it throttled down to 1.72Ghz.
Now these times arent quite precise bit it should give you and idea of what to expect. I'm more than interested in hearing what kind of results you get, so go for it!
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Hey!
While I don't have the knowledge of an app that does exactly what you want, I've read countless times that the SD800 starts at max load and then throttles down as the CPU gets hotter. It would be interesting to see exactly HOW much it uses.
What I've done, though, is to start playing Asphalt 8 and having a CPU monitor from Android System Tuner on my home screen. I'd then play a bit, then quickly go home and open the CPU monitor. First 5 minutes it was at 2.26Ghz, then it throttled down to 1.95 Ghz and finally after about 10 minutes it throttled down to 1.72Ghz.
Now these times arent quite precise bit it should give you and idea of what to expect. I'm more than interested in hearing what kind of results you get, so go for it!
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I'm doing a similiar thing with Trickster mod to see how much time is spent on every single frequency... but it's very difficult to understand something in this way. The only thing I can say is that my snapdragon800 throttles like hell....
In 30 minutes playing:
only few seconds at 2265, 1958 and 1728 MHz (the same for 960 and 1190 MHz... I think this 2 frequencies are unused in playing)
2 minutes maximum for 1574 and 1497 MHz
Most of the playing time is at 1036 MHz and 1267 MHz....
But, generally I can't say at what frequency Thermal throttling is influencing smoothness.... this is why I need some app like computer programs such as atitraytool or msi afterburner... this is the only way to understand precisely.
However, I discovered that the benchmark used in the video of the first post, is a "Qualcomm" tech demo with built-in osd... but I'm unable to find and download it
titomax82 said:
I'm doing a similiar thing with Trickster mod to see how much time is spent on every single frequency... but it's very difficult to understand something in this way. The only thing I can say is that my snapdragon800 throttles like hell....
In 30 minutes playing:
only few seconds at 2265, 1958 and 1728 MHz (the same for 960 and 1190 MHz... I think this 2 frequencies are unused in playing)
2 minutes maximum for 1574 and 1497 MHz
Most of the playing time is at 1036 MHz and 1267 MHz....
But, generally I can't say at what frequency Thermal throttling is influencing smoothness.... this is why I need some app like computer programs such as atitraytool or msi afterburner... this is the only way to understand precisely.
However, I discovered that the benchmark used in the video of the first post, is a "Qualcomm" tech demo with built-in osd... but I'm unable to find and download it
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What PVS bin is your SD800? You can check that in the hidden menu.
Keep in mind that there's another factor to determine the smoothness which you shouldn't forget - The frequency of the GPU. It might be interesting to monitor that too.
Hey for now you can try cool tool from play store which won't give multi core stats but it does display the constant change in frequency
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What PVS bin is your SD800?
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What does this me? Please help me with more detailed instructions on how to see it
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What does this me? Please help me with more detailed instructions on how to see it
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Well PVS is basically how "good" your chip is. It is a scale from 0-6 where 6 is the best and describes how many volts your chip needs to achieve maximum frequency.
You can check it by entering (on a D802)
3845#*802#
Then go into "Settings" AND "Version Info" - scroll down and see.
Naturally, the lower your PVS bin is, the more heat your phone will produce since it needs a higher voltage to acquire same frequency. This also means more throttling.
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Well PVS is basically how "good" your chip is. It is a scale from 0-6 where 6 is the best and describes how many volts your chip needs to achieve maximum frequency.
You can check it by entering (on a D802)
3845#*802#
Then go into "Settings" AND "Version Info" - scroll down and see.
Naturally, the lower your PVS bin is, the more heat your phone will produce since it needs a higher voltage to acquire same frequency. This also means more throttling.
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It's 4
I think it's quite good (infact I have -50mv, that is 2 steps less with trickstermod, on every frequency)
However, I found "PerfMon" here in xda... that has a floating window that monitors every single core usage and frequency (just a pity it doesn't monitor temperature...)
Also I noticed that gpu stays at 320MHz max while it should be 450 (in trickstermod it's correct)
Performance "gpu" governor works (but kills battery staying always at 450 MHz)
Simple_OnDemand "gpu" governor gets phone into bootloop
cpu throttles at 75c first ti 1.9 ghz, as the phone heats up more it will drop to 1.7. Phone will shut of at 92c.
and yes i got to 92C turning off throttling on CM and running antutu, wouldn't advice it ^_^
Weird. I found my cpu being throttled down to 1.57 ghz @ 69 degrees. Mine is pvs bin2
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So I usually use CPUSpy to monitor my CPU usage. This comes in handy once the device is rooted and I can see how custom kernels and settings affect battery life and cpu cycles. My LG G4 is the tmobile variant and obviously not currently rooted. I notice through CPUSpy that my cpu speed literally never exceeds 1440mhz.
I don't have any problems with that per say, everything on the device still runs buttery smooth without anything more than the occasional hiccup or lag. I'm curious if anyone else has monitored their CPU speeds and noticed the same thing? I just find it a little interesting.
CPU spy can't even see the A57 cores so there's no way it can see what speed it's running at.
4 cores are limited to 1.44 the rest are 1.8
I have not used CPUSpy. But CPU-Z will show you the speed of each of the 6 cores. As mentioned, the last 2 are the only ones I've seen reach 1.8GHz, the first 4 seem to top out at 1.4 GHz.
Ok.. Using cpu-z..
That's how mine looks "at rest". When it's sitting quietly, saving the battery. Crank up some apps, and you should see those clock speeds rise.
But, trying to improve my battery life, and keep the temps down, I've been hoping to see those numbers stay low, not actually show how high they can go
I agree.. As ive stated, the device runs great i just found it odd. It even calls it a 1.44ghz cpu in the cpu profile and mostly no matter how hard i push the device i cant break that speed
Right as CPU-Z opens, the clock speeds spiked briefly. I was able to get a screenshot quickly.
Do yours also jump up for a second or two right as the app opens?
This has been discussed already. As the previous post shows, they do get to 1.8Ghz when required.
Hello everyone,
Always i have searched all internet before writing this post.
My LG G6 H870 have strange behaviour.
Actually i am using open oreo v20g installed by TWRP . I have magisk and mk2000 kernel, but tried also Beast , and Marshall. I tried also back to stock with KDZ file.
Problem is that after running CPU Throttling app i can see temperatures and frequency.
After boot it shows sometimes that frequency go to max 2,35 GHz on 2 cores, and 2,18 GHz on other 2. Temperature is 35*C per core. Performance shows at start over 100 GIPS and is going down to 70-80 GIPS.
One moment later, or after Next reboot after running test, cpu frequency go to MAX 1,05 GHz on all cores even temperature is 23*C on cores. It shows 50 GIPS and.
Dry performance test is not problem, but i feeleing a low performance at systemy interface and web browser - its laggy.
Antutu shows below 100 000 points.
I tried kernel adiutor to set frequency, but on any kernel its not possible,becouse if i set frequency itd changes itself after while to random frequency.
Tried to change governor for example Performance, but frequencies never go over 1,3-1,4 GHZ.
Temperatures never go over 40 at idle. Phone body is not.
Do You have any ideas where is the problem and what can i do? Frewuencies are totally random at stress or higher usage of cpu.
Thank You very much
Here's screen shot of test. Straight Green Line is frequency 1,05GHz at testing
I did a full back to stock with LG UP and Uppercut with v20a KDZ firmware. I locked bootloader by Tool all in one, By OTA firmware updated to v20g. Problem gone, everytime i can See over 100 GIPS in test and device seems to work like a charm.
Thanks
czaroslaw107 said:
I did a full back to stock with LG UP and Uppercut with v20a KDZ firmware. I locked bootloader by Tool all in one, By OTA firmware updated to v20g. Problem gone, everytime i can See over 100 GIPS in test and device seems to work like a charm.
Thanks
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Wait so what was the issue. Was it the kernel??
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LLoTE said:
Wait so what was the issue. Was it the kernel??
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It's looks like the problem is with hardware. On stock V20g, and now also on V20h problem still persist. It's totally random. Now i am on locked bootloader, stock kernel and sometimes frequencies locks at 1,05 GHz even if temperature of cores at test start are between 25-30*C on with CPU Throttling test app. Phone still lags sometimes.
czaroslaw107 said:
It's looks like the problem is with hardware. On stock V20g, and now also on V20h problem still persist. It's totally random. Now i am on locked bootloader, stock kernel and sometimes frequencies locks at 1,05 GHz even if temperature of cores at test start are between 25-30*C on with CPU Throttling test app. Phone still lags sometimes.
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You know i noticed something like that too, sometimes the phone runs fine but sometimes I'd be doing some really simple activity and it just heats up and lags and also ram is getting eaten on the stock ROM.
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LLoTE said:
You know i noticed something like that too, sometimes the phone runs fine but sometimes I'd be doing some really simple activity and it just heats up and lags and also ram is getting eaten on the stock ROM.
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On stock i disabled many stock and system apps with LG Package disabler, and phone never gets Hot. Only when testing or doing heavy tasks. Ram is also normal. I recommend disable bloatware and unused not critical apps.
My problem is that phone can't be even warm when heavy apps are computing.
I didn't found a solution, but i noticed, that is it linked with charger.
When battery is below 50%, cpu clock very fast jumping from 1,05 to 2,34 GHz and then the performance is near 60 GIPS. After connecting charger CPU frequency is stable at 2,34 GHz and throttle is lowering frequency to 1,05 GHz and stay at this frequence even a temperature is low after while. After disconneting charger, frequency is going higher and higher. I attached screenshot when is it visible.
When battery is over 50%, cpu frequency is stable at 2,34 GHz, performance is near 100 GIPS and is lowering with throttle, but when i connect charger, frequencies are unstable and performance falls to 60 GIPS.
In summary, there wasn't problem with kernel, or software. I think there is problem with hardware, but i don't know how to diagnose problem.
czaroslaw107 said:
I didn't found a solution, but i noticed, that is it linked with charger.
When battery is below 50%, cpu clock very fast jumping from 1,05 to 2,34 GHz and then the performance is near 60 GIPS. After connecting charger CPU frequency is stable at 2,34 GHz and throttle is lowering frequency to 1,05 GHz and stay at this frequence even a temperature is low after while. After disconneting charger, frequency is going higher and higher. I attached screenshot when is it visible.
When battery is over 50%, cpu frequency is stable at 2,34 GHz, performance is near 100 GIPS and is lowering with throttle, but when i connect charger, frequencies are unstable and performance falls to 60 GIPS.
In summary, there wasn't problem with kernel, or software. I think there is problem with hardware, but i don't know how to diagnose problem.
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Yea it's probably your hardware try underclocking the voltage or smthn like that
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Yea it's probably your hardware try underclocking the voltage or smthn like that
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Thanks for help, but under or overclocking not working. Tried to change clock by max 50mV but without success. I tested more today and problem starts below 70% battery level. It's about 3,8V of battery.
I also tried disable cores. After disabling 1 of 4 cores (no matter which one) clock were jumping from high to low. After disabling 2 of 4 the problem dissapears and clocks are high as it should be, but only on 2 cores. It looks like phone don't have enough power to deliver energy to high intensity SoC usage. I'm going to try dissassemble and assemple motherboard and battery again, maybe connector is not fit good, after sim tray repair.
czaroslaw107 said:
Thanks for help, but under or overclocking not working. Tried to change clock by max 50mV but without success. I tested more today and problem starts below 70% battery level. It's about 3,8V of battery.
I also tried disable cores. After disabling 1 of 4 cores (no matter which one) clock were jumping from high to low. After disabling 2 of 4 the problem dissapears and clocks are high as it should be, but only on 2 cores. It looks like phone don't have enough power to deliver energy to high intensity SoC usage. I'm going to try dissassemble and assemple motherboard and battery again, maybe connector is not fit good, after sim tray repair.
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I don't advise that but go ahead and does this happen on every ROM or no
Any update? My phone does the same. Is this problem battery or thermal related?