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Photon Q compared with epic 4g

i just bought the phone like an hour or so ago and i must say im impressed but theres pros and cons about this device. i took some flicks so you guys can see it compared to the epic 4g
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johnp1991 said:
What you guys think about the $199 price tag? its cheaper then when I bought my og epic for $220. Do you guys think it be worth it knowing the s3 the same price?
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No i don't think it is. Even though the call signal/quality might be superb
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I say wait for it to be up on amazonwireless/wirefly/letstalk. Though I was expecting them to charge 250$, they always charge 50$ for the keyboard fee. Considering that we most likely won't be seeing any other keyboard phones for a year (sprint already has 3 with this one having best specs). There might not be much choice.

What's funny I was in radio shack with a friend today... they are selling the og epic for $20.00.
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Speedin07si said:
What's funny I was in radio shack with a friend today... they are selling the og epic for $20.00.
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Why is it funny? it is always cheaper through a retailer then directly. You can get it for 1 penny on amazon. The only downside ordering it through a 3rd party is if you cancel after 30 days but before 180 days you pay 200$+ extra to cancel.

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Do you guys think it be worth it knowing the s3 the same price?
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a no go for the following reason:
1) motorolla device with no confirmed unlocked bootloader
2) non-removable battery is only 1785 mAh
3) only 1GB RAM
So, unless these specs are wrong.... not worth it, IMO

DCRocks said:
a no go for the following reason:
1) motorolla device with no confirmed unlocked bootloader
2) non-removable battery is only 1785 mAh
3) only 1GB RAM
So, unless these specs are wrong.... not worth it, IMO
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#1 Not true, it has been confirmed that the Photon Q 4GLTE will be Motorola's first unlockable bootloader.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/07/26/unlock-the-bootloader-on-motorola-photon-q-4g-lte/
That said, I still won't buy it, most likely.

Sprint posted a deal on the Motorola Photon Q. If you pre-order and add a line you get a $100 amex gift card so may be worth it if your on a family plan.

2 people told me today they are waiting for the iPhone 5...
God have mercy on their souls...
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orlzzt said:
2 people told me today they are waiting for the iPhone 5...
God have mercy on their souls...
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Whats an iphone?

orlzzt said:
2 people told me today they are waiting for the iPhone 5...
God have mercy on their souls...
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Simpletons will be Simpletons. Im waiting on the new Nexus, which should come soon after they release the Iphone5 lol.
Unless I think this phone is worth it...and they drop the price to $100 no mail in rebate.

InfDaMarvel said:
Simpletons will be Simpletons. Im waiting on the new Nexus, which should come soon after they release the Iphone5 lol.
Unless I think this phone is worth it...and they drop the price to $100 no mail in rebate.
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So far cheapest I found for upgrades is 149.99$ at Wirefly F&F.

gTen said:
Whats an iphone?
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I love the iphone!!!

xboxfanj said:
#1 Not true, it has been confirmed that the Photon Q 4GLTE will be Motorola's first unlockable bootloader.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/07/26/unlock-the-bootloader-on-motorola-photon-q-4g-lte/
That said, I still won't buy it, most likely.
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Thanks, that was always a concern when it came to Motorola, at least IMO
Still, considering you can get an Epic for $100 off contract and run CM10 on it, and a SGS3 for $150 via Amazon/Best Buy, I am kinda unwilling to risk jumping on board another phone with slim development prospects, until I hear otherwise. Perhaps if CM accepts the device...

DCRocks said:
Thanks, that was always a concern when it came to Motorola, at least IMO
Still, considering you can get an Epic for $100 off contract and run CM10 on it, and a SGS3 for $150 via Amazon/Best Buy, I am kinda unwilling to risk jumping on board another phone with slim development prospects, until I hear otherwise. Perhaps if CM accepts the device...
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My main interest is because of WORLD phone. I can us e GSM on travel and makes life much easier. I wish GS3 had GSM slot. I read that there is some long way of getting there with GS3.

i would have been willing to put up with Motorola shenanigans if the thing was 720p, but it's only QHD
looks like i'll have to go with a NOKB phone.
in other news, i know someone who will LOOOOVE the Kyocera Rise on VM... $99!?!? cut the check!

dps33 said:
My main interest is because of WORLD phone. I can us e GSM on travel and makes life much easier. I wish GS3 had GSM slot. I read that there is some long way of getting there with GS3.
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Is the lte sim card user accessible? If so, you can probably use gsm from there, just like on some verizon droids not advertising gsm capability.
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dps33 said:
My main interest is because of WORLD phone. I can us e GSM on travel and makes life much easier. I wish GS3 had GSM slot. I read that there is some long way of getting there with GS3.
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Doesn't it have a locked GSM slot? I remember hearing something about Verizon version being hacked to use GSM in europe. I doubt sprint version is any different, but your gonna have to research it.

How does the qHD screen compare to AMOLED???? No one has answered this for me.

gTen said:
I say wait for it to be up on amazonwireless/wirefly/letstalk. Though I was expecting them to charge 250$, they always charge 50$ for the keyboard fee. Considering that we most likely won't be seeing any other keyboard phones for a year (sprint already has 3 with this one having best specs). There might not be much choice.
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This isn't true. LG has a keyboard phone in the pipeline called the Cayenne.
The Photon is a no-go for me due to embedded battery. As it is I need to use an extended battery with the Epic and always carry a spare for backup.
When batteries were always replaceable I considered physical keyboard my deal breaker. Now replaceable battery is my deal breaker. I'd like a keyboard too, but if I *HAD* to choose between keyboard and replaceable battery I'd go with the replaceable battery. Keyboard does me no good if the phone is dead...

Swapping a note 1, for 2, in the uk

The only reason to do this is keeping up with the smiths. EE have stated their 4g network will be round 10-15mb/s. The same as I get now on 3.
The world is full of people getting phones and 2 months in they feel they are missing out, due to blogs & engadget,etc who are paid to make you feel this.
You only really need to update every other model.
Start thinking rationally on this,NOT how those who are paid to make you feel.
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Totally agree.
I went from galaxy s 1 to galaxy s3, galaxy s2 just wasn't worthy at the time. Nor is the note 2 ill be hanging out for the note 3.
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howard bamber said:
The only reason to do this is keeping up with the smiths. EE have stated their 4g network will be round 10-15mb/s. The same as I get now on 3.
The world is full of people getting phones and 2 months in they feel they are missing out, due to blogs & engadget,etc who are paid to make you feel this.
You only really need to update every other model.
Start thinking rationally on this,NOT how those who are paid to make you feel.
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Im on 3. You get 10 to 15mbps? Never heard of their network giving those speeds! You must be on top of a mast! Best i have ever gotten is 9mbps.
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Stateside here, phones are subsidized by the carriers which means the monthly bill is higher. When i was with sprint ild get a new phone every year amd could sell my "old" phone, the one year old one for more than the $200usd sprint was asking. I think this really what drives the phone markets.
Lucky for me i got off the phone treadmill, sold my S2 and bought a note for only about $150 difference. No more $90 monthly bills. I spend about $10 on prepaid a month and use voip for most of my talking.
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PJ147 said:
Im on 3. You get 10 to 15mbps? Never heard of their network giving those speeds! You must be on top of a mast! Best i have ever gotten is 9mbps.
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LxMxFxD said:
Stateside here, phones are subsidized by the carriers which means the monthly bill is higher. When i was with sprint ild get a new phone every year amd could sell my "old" phone, the one year old one for more than the $200usd sprint was asking. I think this really what drives the phone markets.
Lucky for me i got off the phone treadmill, sold my S2 and bought a note for only about $150 difference. No more $90 monthly bills. I spend about $10 on prepaid a month and use voip for most of my talking.
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Snap. I get 500min. 5000 txt ,unlimited data for $21- pre pay. As gf is in USA use voip.
Id never buy a contract phone. I wait 6months then trawl amazon....
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Its a conspiracy. The phone manufacturers only release a new phone to make us buy it. Someone call the press how could they not have noticed!
Sarcasm aside what really is the point your getting at? Do you actually want to start a movement of people no buying new phones every year? What's wrong with wanting the newest handset every year? If you can afford it then why not. Or is your point that you feel the media is playing you and manipulating you into wanting a new phone and you feel this is somehow unjust?
I was going to edit this and delete most of it but decided to leave it and just say after reading your post a few more times and reading my own I think mine sounds like I am being a real ass to you. Didn't mean it to be. Was meant to sound more playful than it does. Sorry if its not.
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howard bamber said:
The only reason to do this is keeping up with the smiths. EE have stated their 4g network will be round 10-15mb/s. The same as I get now on 3.
The world is full of people getting phones and 2 months in they feel they are missing out, due to blogs & engadget,etc who are paid to make you feel this.
You only really need to update every other model.
Start thinking rationally on this,NOT how those who are paid to make you feel.
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I'm guessing its actually yourself your aiming that at.

[Q] Cheapest place to get a Verizon Note 3 off-contract?

I want to move back to Android after a stint with Windows Phone 8. Where can I get the cheapest price for the Verizon Note 3 off-contract? The Verizon online store has it for $700.

nightrapt0r said:
I want to move back to Android after a stint with Windows Phone 8. Where can I get the cheapest price for the Verizon Note 3 off-contract? The Verizon online store has it for $700.
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Try craigslist. You are not going to find the Note 3 off contract for less than $550-600.

Way too early to get it cheaper. It's a highly anticipated device so everyone is gonna get asking price for it. Like ericdabbs said, try craigslist after its already been released. There will be people who bought it then found it too big for them.

I paid $745 via Verizon website
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Won't buying on Craigslist risk your phone being banned after someone defaults on payments?

xManMythLegend said:
Won't buying on Craigslist risk your phone being banned after someone defaults on payments?
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No, because that phone will be assigned to your account not theirs.

SgtGoldy said:
Way too early to get it cheaper. It's a highly anticipated device so everyone is gonna get asking price for it. Like ericdabbs said, try craigslist after its already been released. There will be people who bought it then found it too big for them.
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I figured full price at the start but thought to ask you guys because someone might find a deal/special.

SgtGoldy said:
No, because that phone will be assigned to your account not theirs.
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Perhaps Verizon and Sprint still ESN block and attach to account.
GSM phones block across the board and are only attached to the original account.
I thought with LTE they would do the same. Glad they don't. It's very scummy.

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Won't buying on Craigslist risk your phone being banned after someone defaults on payments?
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It's all junk on cl to mean anymore. Buying a $600+ phone on there scares me anymore. I will pay full retail and know it had been in my hands it's whole life
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You will have to pay ~$700 unless you find someone dumping their used one. But that won't happen for at least a couple of weeks after launch.
oneandroidnut said:
It's all junk on cl to mean anymore. Buying a $600+ phone on there scares me anymore. I will pay full retail and know it had been in my hands it's whole life
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I have bought & sold many phones on craigslist. You just have to be careful who you're dealing with, and you have to know what you're buying. And make sure you verify the ESN status before handing over money.
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sublimaze said:
You will have to pay ~$700 unless you find someone dumping their used one. But that won't be likely for a couple of weeks after launch.
I have bought & sold many phones on craigslist. You just have to be careful who you're dealing with, and you have to know what you're buying. And make sure you verify the ESN status before handing over money.
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I have bought and sold tons in years past. Until this year. Too many shady people with shady phones and mix matched boxes for phones and stuff. I looked at half a dozen s3 for a backup phone then I threw the towel in. They were all junk. Won't risk that anymore. I always esn check and usually activate them on the stop. Never any issues with that just the stuff on there anymore is no good
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oneandroidnut said:
I have bought and sold tons in years past. Until this year. Too many shady people with shady phones and mix matched boxes for phones and stuff. I looked at half a dozen s3 for a backup phone then I threw the towel in. They were all junk. Won't risk that anymore. I always esn check and usually activate them on the stop. Never any issues with that just the stuff on there anymore is no good
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Yep, I've met sellers with oddball stuff that didn't match their ad, or they just seemed shady, and I didn't waste time bailing out. Trust your gut. If something doesn't seem right, there is usually a good reason why it feels that way.
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sublimaze said:
You will have to pay ~$700 unless you find someone dumping their used one. But that won't happen for at least a couple of weeks after launch.
I have bought & sold many phones on craigslist. You just have to be careful who you're dealing with, and you have to know what you're buying. And make sure you verify the ESN status before handing over money.
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This........ ^^
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sublimaze said:
Yep, I've met sellers with oddball stuff that didn't match their ad, or they just seemed shady, and I didn't waste time bailing out. Trust your gut. If something doesn't seem right, there is usually a good reason why it feels that way.
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Yeah I've bought those even when my gut says no and still make money and don't know how haha but I'm done for awhile at least
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I would say eBay from someone who bought one and decided it was "too big" and was too late in returning it, also check swappa.com

Craigslist always has people who buy the phone at upgrade price and immediately sell for a couple hundred off full retail. They make some easy cash and you save some. Just make sure you meet the seller at a Verizon store to verify not stolen. On a side note if you live in a marginal coverage area you can open a new account and get phone for discount price. Wait 15 days and complain about signal. They let you walk from contract with no charge. Then you just pop your sim in and bingo bango bongo. Im on my parents family plan with unlimited so this worked for me last year.
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Check Swappa. I'm not sure I'll be keeping my glitch-ordered white 32gb Note 3. I already bought my GS4 at full retail.
Will have to see what my first impressions are...

Was going to cancel my pre-order until

I saw some youtube reviews of the camera. They all say that this is the best or one of the best camera's available on a cell phone, compared favorably to iLemming Copy 6 phone.
So...I'm keeping my pre-order.
I'll put up with no root for a while...I have faith....

I am canceling unless root miraculously happens by November 1st (BB $200 offer ends date).
Pretty strong odds I cancel. Need root for card writes.

rushless said:
I am canceling unless root miraculously happens by November 1st (BB $200 offer ends date).
Pretty strong odds I cancel. Need root for card writes.
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root should come but that is all i would count on

Root will come out, but you shouldn't need it for card writes. Any of the issues with microsd have been resolved or have plug ins on the developer level to fix permission issues. And native file managers can read write no problem now.

h3ck said:
Root will come out, but you shouldn't need it for card writes. Any of the issues with microsd have been resolved or have plug ins on the developer level to fix permission issues. And native file managers can read write no problem now.
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This does not work practically for any game emulators I have tested and having to rely and hope a dev (who might not even be active anymore) is not a dependency I care to have. For the ones that do, as
soon as you uninstall and install new versions (Reicast dev version is an example that requires this) the roms and all data ALSO is deleted. Too much to keep track of and too much file moving.
Simple fix is enable card writes, but Google wants them dead. Props to Samsung and a few other makers to mainly telling Google to choke on it. Sadly Google is trying their own way to kill them. Will
be very interesting if Lollipop allows card writes again. Arrogant people tend to not reverse course.

rushless said:
I am canceling unless root miraculously happens by November 1st (BB $200 offer ends date).
Pretty strong odds I cancel. Need root for card writes.
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What Best Buy $200 offer?

rushless said:
I am canceling unless root miraculously happens by November 1st (BB $200 offer ends date).
Pretty strong odds I cancel. Need root for card writes.
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What is card writes?
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I found out FoxFi works. NOW! anything that the Note 4 can't do I can still do if I tether to something that can..
Being able to WiFi tether is more important than root!!!!

bsems1000 said:
What Best Buy $200 offer?
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Trade in any working smartphone without a cracked screen or water damage and receive a $200 best buy gift card

shpotik said:
What is card writes?
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Being able to put things on your SD card. IE games,photos, etc

Why not use maxback.com, they offering up to $225 for a well kept Note 3.

Poloasis said:
Why not use maxback.com, they offering up to $225 for a well kept Note 3.
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Because best buy will give you $200 for a Fascinate.

I called best buy and they said its up to 200 dollars. So its not really going to be 200 dollars.
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thisguyeh said:
I called best buy and they said its up to 200 dollars. So its not really going to be 200 dollars.
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Just traded this phone in myself and it was the full $200

I just bought a pos Droid 2 for $40 and they gave me $200 off new note 4!
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thisguyeh said:
I called best buy and they said its up to 200 dollars. So its not really going to be 200 dollars.
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Two old Droid 2 globals just got me $400 towards an s5 and note 4. Any working smartphone will bring you $200.00, not up to $200. In the end I ended up paying $89.00 for both phones together on my Verizon account. (S5 is reduced this week) Best deal in a while in my opinion.

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Will the N6 have sales and price drops like the Moto X?

Personally, I'm leaning toward yes on this question given the history of the Galaxy Nexus. However, I wanted to get the thoughts of others here on the forums. I really want to wait, but I'm finding it hard.

Poke_N_PDA said:
Personally, I'm leaning toward yes on this question given the history of the Galaxy Nexus. However, I wanted to get the thoughts of others here on the forums. I really want to wait, but I'm finding it hard.
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No price drop at all on playstore for N4 and N5

fleonard said:
No price drop at all on playstore for N4 and N5
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Well the gnex started at $649 and eventually went to $399 on the play store. The n4 and the n5 started even lower than that at $299 and $349 respectively. There is a big difference. I'm not saying you are wrong, just trying to get us to consider all the facts.

I called my psychic and she said yes.

No not with those specs

BBlax said:
I called my psychic and she said yes.
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No magic 8 ball? Lol

I guess I had to join the voice....
Nope, the same treatment will be needed for all previous Nexus, which Google ACTUALLY does, but not carrier-oriented procedure.
But taking in mind that the Nexus 5 will be the first on be more than a full year on the market, the drop of price will definitely go for it first than anything.

I doubt it will have price drops this year, i have been in contact with a supplier and he says its a premium price with those specs, motorola has been strict with specific details till november.

mgbotoe said:
No not with those specs
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specs mean nothing in android world.
op just wait 1-2 months and you can find this phone for $500 easily.

I don't k ow, N5 is still the same as the release date.
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oneplus said:
specs mean nothing in android world.
op just wait 1-2 months and you can find this phone for $500 easily.
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Thats why google is charging and arm and a leg for it? lol YOu mean to tell me they would have sold it at this price with they had just came out with the same similar spec as N5?
Google will NOT make it cheaper. Third party sellers is another thing
If specs are nothing in the android world, you my dear friend need to go get an iphone. Thats why people are crying because Note 4 nor S5 is 4gb of ram. Thats why people are crying cause G3 is 801 not 805. Thats why people are crying cause the huge Note 4 is not BIGGER or the z3 is not BIGGER.
Just because specs to you are nothing, does not mean how the rest of the android users feel
The op wait 6 months, he will find it else were cheaper, even on swapper cheaper...but he sure as well wont get it from google cheaper

Wait a couple of months. A lot of people with will use their $200 upgrade and flip the phone on EBay for $500 to $550. You can find a brand new LG G3 for $400 on EBay and that phone hasn't been out that long.
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mgbotoe said:
Thats why google is charging and arm and a leg for it? lol YOu mean to tell me they would have sold it at this price with they had just came out with the same similar spec as N5?
Google will NOT make it cheaper. Third party sellers is another thing
If specs are nothing in the android world, you my dear friend need to go get an iphone. Thats why people are crying because Note 4 nor S5 is 4gb of ram. Thats why people are crying cause G3 is 801 not 805. Thats why people are crying cause the huge Note 4 is not BIGGER or the z3 is not BIGGER.
Just because specs to you are nothing, does not mean how the rest of the android users feel
The op wait 6 months, he will find it else were cheaper, even on swapper cheaper...but he sure as well wont get it from google cheaper
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The fact that it has high end specs mean nothing when it comes to phone holding value over time. Google will never drop the price via the playstore but as the previous guy said, many users who will get it via contract subsidy for $200, will sell it for $550 new on ebay.
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NardVa said:
Wait a couple of months. A lot of people with will use their $200 upgrade and flip the phone on EBay for $500 to $550. You can find a brand new LG G3 for $400 on EBay and that phone hasn't been out that long.
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Exactly!
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NardVa said:
Wait a couple of months. A lot of people with will use their $200 upgrade and flip the phone on EBay for $500 to $550. You can find a brand new LG G3 for $400 on EBay and that phone hasn't been out that long.
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Wont that result in you buying a phone that is tied to someone else's contract and whatnot...?!
Ive never phone a phone from those circumstances so i would assume that to be the case and you would have to go and check to make sure its clean and ready to go. seems like a lot of time/work...but idk

Poke_N_PDA said:
Personally, I'm leaning toward yes on this question given the history of the Galaxy Nexus. However, I wanted to get the thoughts of others here on the forums. I really want to wait, but I'm finding it hard.
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I don't want to wait,I will get iphone 6 plus.

kinfolk248 said:
Wont that result in you buying a phone that is tied to someone else's contract and whatnot...?!
Ive never phone a phone from those circumstances so i would assume that to be the case and you would have to go and check to make sure its clean and ready to go. seems like a lot of time/work...but idk
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There is a risk that the phone you buy is blacklisted. I normally check the person's feedback and look at their EBay rating. Most people that have a long history of selling stuff on EBay want be looking to scam you.
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