SafeStrap vs Flashfire - Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone have any recommendations of either using flashfire or safestrap? My device broke and had to be sent a new refurbished. Luckily it had 4.4.4 so I was able to root. I am unsure if I should go and install SafeStrap again or just use FlashFire to install ROMs. Am I missing any necessities by skipping SafeStrap?
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llama555 said:
Does anyone have any recommendations of either using flashfire or safestrap? My device broke and had to be sent a new refurbished. Luckily it had 4.4.4 so I was able to root. I am unsure if I should go and install SafeStrap again or just use FlashFire to install ROMs. Am I missing any necessities by skipping SafeStrap?
Thanks
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I personally recommend SafeStrap as it's an actual recovery. If you screw up when using FlashFire and you can't boot your phone to system you will have to ODIN the ROM back. With SafeStrap you can always get back to it by just flashing the NI2 kernel.
FlashFire = app
SafeStrap = recovery

Use both, Flashfire for flashing and such; SafeStrap for recovery.

Safestrap vs. FlashFire
I agree use both. Having the security of safestrap is priceless and having the ability to flash zips with flashfire under the protection of safestrap gives the best of both worlds. I am on jrkruse's stock BOG5 with safestrap and ability to downgrade and also have flashfire. With this it made it possible to load viper4android by using the SuperSu zip for Viper flashing the zip file with FF. Thanks to all the developers that made this possible.

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Updating 4.4 to 4.4.2 with XPOSED

Hey guys, I tried looking for the answer to this but couldn't find any info.
I'm currently on rooted, stock 4.4, stock kernel with XPOSED installed. I want to update to 4.4.2 without losing data.
I don't want to re-root using a computer method such as one click install since it does not work on my computer. What are my options?
TechActivist said:
Hey guys, I tried looking for the answer to this but couldn't find any info.
I'm currently on rooted, stock 4.4, stock kernel with XPOSED installed. I want to update to 4.4.2 without losing data.
I don't want to re-root using a computer method such as one click install since it does not work on my computer. What are my options?
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The other I can see is with custom recovery.
Procedure:
Flash custom recovery like CWM or TWRP if you don't have,
Download OTA 4.4.1, 4.4.2 zip and SuperSU 1.8 zip
Disable Xposed
Boot into recovery
Install 4.4.1 OTA zip then 4.4.2 OTA zip
Install SuperSU zip
Reboot your phone
Enable Xposed

[Q] Is it possible to upgrade from stock rooted NI2 to Lollipop without Safestrap?

I have a stock rooted S5 on NI2 and would like to keep root and upgrade to Lollipop. I have one of the early models and was able to root, etc. without ever installing Safestrap. Since I've never used Safestrap and am not familiar with the process of different slots, etc., I was looking for a method which didn't require flashing through Safestrap. On the other hand, if there is no downside to this approach or if there is no alternative, I'll go this route.
Any thoughts?
rickt1152 said:
I have a stock rooted S5 on NI2 and would like to keep root and upgrade to Lollipop. I have one of the early models and was able to root, etc. without ever installing Safestrap. Since I've never used Safestrap and am not familiar with the process of different slots, etc., I was looking for a method which didn't require flashing through Safestrap. On the other hand, if there is no downside to this approach or if there is no alternative, I'll go this route.
Any thoughts?
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My S5 was rooted, but I had not previously installed safestrap. I was able to install safestrap (and busybox) first and then followed muniz_ri's instructions (http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...l/how-to-update-to-g900vvru1boa8-5-0-t3020546). I didn't bother with the safestrap backup, I just kept my Titanium backups on the external card. Worked perfectly and Safestrap was removed as part of the upgrade. I did have to run NextApp SDFix before Titanium could save to SDcard. Sad about losing xposed, but really like Lollipop.
As of right now there is no way to maintain root without using Safestrap. In all honesty, Safestrap is not confusing at all, and if you follow the instructions @kulaga posted it's very easy.

How do i reroot without bootlooping?

I'm a veteran at rooting android phones, but this is the first phone where TouchWiz roms won't boot after installing SuperSu. How do I root my stock rom(my phone has twrp installed), or install a custom TouchWiz rom(that automatically installs SuperSu) without bootlooping?
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Flashing SuperSU from TWRP should work, is that where it is bootlooping?
Make sure to say NO if TWRP asks if you want it to root the phone for you after flashing SuperSU or that will cause problems, you only need flash SuperSU, and then refuse the next request if asked
There is also CF Auto Root, this is for flashing with ODIN
G900T CF AR
http://download.chainfire.eu/407/CF-Root1/CF-Auto-Root-kltetmo-kltetmo-smg900t.zip

New to posting on xda, so I don't know if this where I should ask this, but need help

Ok, so I got an AT&T Galaxy S4 running OC3, and I want to put a custom ROM on. I've been reading so many threads over the past few days, and want to make sure that I have everything ready to go before I brick my phone (the volume up button is stuck so I can't get into download mode if I brick it, will that be a problem?)
1. I have rooted using Kingroot. Root check app says I have root
2. I installed busybox
3. I installed safestrap 3.72 (I tried uninstalling 3.72, and installing 3.75, but it says old version installed. Will this be a problem?)
4. Downloaded and installed the NC1 flasher spk, but have not flashed yet because I want to make sure I'm doing everything ok
5. This is where I really want to make sure I have everything in order... I'm going to list the zip I have that I think I need to flash, in the order that I think I need to flash them:
a. Goldeneye ROM v.53 (unless someone has a better ROM they think I should use)
b. 5.0 nano Gapps
c. SuperSU (unless I don't need to)
d. OC3 Stock Kernel
e. OC3 modules
f. 0C3 Modem
g. xposed
6. Reboot (then install xposed installer apk, reinstall busybox/safestrap apk/nc1 flasher apk, other apps, etc)
Please let me know if this is the right path. And is not being able to get into download mode going to be a problem?
I don't know where you got the 5.0 nano Gapps step from, but you shouldn't need those. SuperSU never hurts to flash so that's fine. Just make sure you have the recovery flashable zip for the OC3 kernel since you can't get into download, but you should be able to reboot to download from Safestrap anyway if necessary. You may also want to boot into the ROM once before flashing xposed.
DeadlySin9 said:
I don't know where you got the 5.0 nano Gapps step from, but you shouldn't need those. SuperSU never hurts to flash so that's fine. Just make sure you have the recovery flashable zip for the OC3 kernel since you can't get into download, but you should be able to reboot to download from Safestrap anyway if necessary. You may also want to boot into the ROM once before flashing xposed.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I guess I'm just used to flashing gapps from every other device I have flashed haha. So you don't need to in this method?
And does it matter that I can't update to safestrap 3.75? Will 3.72 work?
And thanks for the heads up on flashing xposed. When I boot the ROM, do I need to reinstall safestrap/NC1 flasher to get back so I can flash xposed?
One more question (sorry for all the questions ), do you have any opinion on the Goldeneye ROM vs any other compatible lollipop ROMs? And are there any Marshmallow ROMs that would be compatible?
jicrunk said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I guess I'm just used to flashing gapps from every other device I have flashed haha. So you don't need to in this method?
And does it matter that I can't update to safestrap 3.75? Will 3.72 work?
And thanks for the heads up on flashing xposed. When I boot the ROM, do I need to reinstall safestrap/NC1 flasher to get back so I can flash xposed?
One more question (sorry for all the questions ), do you have any opinion on the Goldeneye ROM vs any other compatible lollipop ROMs? And are there any Marshmallow ROMs that would be compatible?
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Apologies for being away from XDA for a bit. You don't need Gapps since it's not an AOSP ROM. Either Safestrap should work once you flash the NC1 kernel I believe. You will need NC1 Flasher, Safestrap should still be installed though (the recovery, not the app though) or you should also be able to use Flashfire if you have it. No MM Roms are compatible, and Goldeneye was a good ROM when I used it. Personally I just rooted stock and customized it myself, but Goldeneye is good.
If you've already gone and flashed, then I hope all has gone well and whatnot.

Request: Can someone Loki the latest TWRP (official release is not properly lokied)

Although TWRP is *supposed* to be lokied, it turns out that all the 3.x versions are not properly lokied. This has been reported in the last couple of pages of this thread, and it's been reported in their bug tracker (although they seem to be ignoring it for now).
One of the users in that xda thread was kind enough to loki a few TWRP releases, but the latest one he did was v3.1.1.0, and he hasn't done any more since.
Can someone else be kind enough to Loki the latest version of TWRP for jflteatt, located here? (Preferably both IMG and TAR, so people can use it with whichever installation method they prefer/need)
My guide tells you how to Loki CWM recovery, it should work the same for TWRP (should is the keyword here).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/how-to-one-guide-to-mdl-bootloader-t3584122
StoneyJSG said:
My guide tells you how to Loki CWM recovery, it should work the same for TWRP (should is the keyword here).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/how-to-one-guide-to-mdl-bootloader-t3584122
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Thank you. However, the method described requires root.
I had root on CyanogenMod 11, but ever since I flashed LineageOS 14.1, I haven't been able to root my phone without bricking it - so this method won't work for me.
How are you on lineage OS without having root? You need root to install a custom recovery which then in turn allows a custom ROM. I know lineage OS hides or does sometimes with superSU, so it might be hiding root as well (unless I am thinking of Oct OS).
Your phone is probably rooted, use the root checker app from the play store to check. If by chance somehow it's not, then use towel root, king root, one click root, safe root, CF auto root, or kingo root to root it. If all else fails you might have to ODIN back to stock, then root, then install the latest TWRP then Loki it using my guide then install lineage OS.
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How are you on lineage OS without having root? You need root to install a custom recovery which then in turn allows a custom ROM. I know lineage OS hides or does sometimes with superSU, so it might be hiding root as well (unless I am thinking of Oct OS).
Your phone is probably rooted, use the root checker app from the play store to check. If by chance somehow it's not, then use towel root, king root, one click root, or kingo root to root it.
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No, my phone is definitely not rooted. It *previously* had root under CyanogenMod 11. That's how I had a custom recovery installed. So I was able to use TWRP to flash LineageOS 14.1 just fine. However, here are the results of my trying to root this phone under LOS 14.1:
1. Magisk: Bricked on Samsung Logo.
2. SuperSU (normal systemless): Not installed properly. Seems to fail on patching the boot image.
3. SuperSU (system mode): Bricked on Lineage boot screen.
4. LineageOS addonsu: Installs fine, but doesn't seem to do anything. I still don't have root.
I've tried posting about this in a few places on xda, but so far, I haven't had any luck.
So *maybe* if I revert back to an older version of Android, I might be able to get a working root. But in order to be recent, it's looking like I have little choice but to finally retire this phone and get something newer. Which is unfortunate, because there's nothing wrong with the phone hardware-wise.
Perhaps I'll try one of the other root options you mentioned and hope it doesn't brick my phone as well.
That's really odd that you have a custom recovery and ROM without root. You might have to ODIN back to stock Android 4.2.2 jelly bean using the MDL firmware .tar file. Can you revert back to a TWRP that is Loki?
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That's really odd that you have a custom recovery and ROM without root. You might have to ODIN back to stock Android 4.2.2 jelly bean using the MDL firmware .tar file. Can you revert back to a TWRP that is Loki?
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I have a Lokied version of TWRP (3.1.1.0), which is working fine. But with all of the problems I've been having trying to get root, I was wondering if perhaps a newer version of TWRP might make the difference. That's why I was trying to get a Lokied version of the latest TWRP.
Ah so you're trying to gain root by flashing TWRP. No idea why lineage OS removed root, unless the people who made it built it that way. The only thing I can think of is either try all the root apps I mentioned before and if that doesn't work then ODIN back to MDL stock and use towel root to root. If lineage OS is anything like Oct OS, you will have to root using a root .zip file.
I wish I could be more help, but I haven't ever used lineage OS before due to liking touchwiz. I run golden eye ROM on my at&t Loki phone.
StoneyJSG said:
My guide tells you how to Loki CWM recovery, it should work the same for TWRP (should is the keyword here).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/how-to-one-guide-to-mdl-bootloader-t3584122
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Unfortunately it does not work:
Code:
1|[email protected]:/data/local/tmp # ./loki_flash recovery twrp.img
[+] loki_flash v1.1
[-] Input file is not a Loki image.
1|[email protected]:/data/local/tmp #
jabulon said:
Unfortunately it does not work:
Code:
1|[email protected]:/data/local/tmp # ./loki_flash recovery twrp.img
[+] loki_flash v1.1
[-] Input file is not a Loki image.
1|[email protected]:/data/local/tmp #
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Thanks for trying it! It's now confirmed my guide is only for CWM recovery.
Not sure if you've already searched it out, but HERE is my thread with the latest Loki patched twrp. I lokied jfltexx 3.2.3-0 which works on the i337 (ATT) s4.
There's also this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/lokid-jfltexx-twrp-att-vzw-s4-t3869503
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There's also this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/lokid-jfltexx-twrp-att-vzw-s4-t3869503
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Your link IS my link from the post directly above yours
Oh crap haha so it is. Oops brain fart there, my fault.
StoneyJSG said:
Oh crap haha so it is. Oops brain fart there, my fault.
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You're good ? I had it in a separate post, and I just created that thread the other day to give it a permanent home more easily found.

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