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Hello there everyone.
I am working on few of problems faced by Nexus regarding its sound quality and other issues related to hardware and software. One of the device has confused me completely is been addressed at the end of this thread.
Mostly, according to my experience, the sound is very loud compared to its previous model of Nexus 7 2012 which had mono speakers while this is loaded with two stereo speakers. Using it in portrait mode has best sound experience.
However, if you try the surround sound option via Google Music, the sound isnot really loud. Just without it, I have noticed best performance.
Also, in MX Player Pro, I have seen that with good headphones, you can increase the sound upto 30 (rather than normal 15) yet you can not do the same whilst using the speakers. It could be due to codecs.
Overall, the sound is loud in a quite environment but hardly noticed in busy areas with background noises like streets. shops etc even on its full sound.
However, some devices do have a bit low sound which could be increased by modifying files a bit but this is kind of increasing your speakers output more than it is optimised to be used for. Thus, sound may break and might be distorted. I am trying to find a combination where an optimum balance could be achieved but I haven't been successful. (If anyone has these values, please share)
I havenot come across a speaker problem related to hardware where no sound was coming out of it. Although, few devices do have different maximum sound if measured in db (3 to 5 db on same track)
THE DEVICE
The device came without its top speaker working and after opening it up and checking the speakers, both speakers worked. I thought the reason, it was not working was due to software. I tried looking into it deeply through software modification without any luck.
One day, after heavy gaming out of curiosity, I just turned on songs to check if both speakers were working and viola, both were working out of no where without any software modification (I gave up and reset the Nexus to give it for warranty claim the next day).
I was overjoyed and till next day, both speakers were working perfectly until I did some heavy gaming again and the sound vanished after charging it (It got hot again during charging)
This has happened twice and today I was gaming with sound turned on and nothing. The device top speaker didnot turn on for a second even like two times it happened before. Both that time, my device was silent while gaming.
I suspect some wiring issue but still not sure, I am now a bit sceptical to open this Nexus again and void the warranty as I have already have taken the back lid off few times. I do not intend to heat it with soldering Kit as I have damaged Htc Sensation a while back doing that. Any Suggestions about this device in particular?
How have been your experience with sound quality and do share any mods you have find useful and have tested.
hi, mine is XXUBMJ1, after 3 weeks of usage, the volume automatically increase sometimes, what could be the problem, is it a bug or hardware ? should upgrade the firmware ?
afiqsabri said:
hi, mine is XXUBMJ1, after 3 weeks of usage, the volume automatically increase sometimes, what could be the problem, is it a bug or hardware ? should upgrade the firmware ?
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anyone experience like this?
Do you have any apps installed that control the volume on their own?
MohJee said:
Do you have any apps installed that control the volume on their own?
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nop, just original
afiqsabri said:
nop, just original
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Then I have no idea, sorry. My other guess would be is that you're accidentally pressing the volume key in you pocket or something without realizing it. You could try factory resetting the phone. It can sometimes fox weird issued like yours.
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have u check the adaptive option under the settings->sound->adapt sound?
Could it be that the adaptive sound is processing at certain point of time trying to give you the best sound that its think of?
Yes, I have experienced this under the following conditions:
-Phone just purchased, unrooted, completely stock. Playing music with PowerAmp with and without the EQ/Tone/Limit features, also happened with stock music app. The effect nearly blew out my eardrums once, but it happened several times. Music would play and very suddenly there would be a violent increase in sound, almost as if an EQ crashed. Sound went back to normal after I pressed the volume rocker in either direction. I am not so sure that this has to do with Adaptive Sound because I remember experiencing the same problem before and after i configured it. Overall, incredibly annoying and dangerous for my ears.
-Phone rooted, Viper4Android installed as a user app. The same problem happens using PowerAmp, Xenoamp and stock music app, but the increase is not so violent (not sure why, yet). Marginally tolerable, but still very annoying.
I have not found a fix yet, but still keeping an eye open.
That being said, my phone has music playing almost all day every day so I probably encounter the problem more often than others. I use earbuds, headphones and my car stereo. There is a Droid-Life.com review that mentions the issue and credits it to the phone's audio jack: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/01/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/
See the subsection for Audio Jack Issues. Here is an excerpt:
"Then, after a few minutes without touching anything while at full volume, the volume just explodes and you are left deafened by the surprise volume attack."
I would be interested to see if anyone reports the problem when playing music via the phone's speaker.
have u check the adaptive option under the settings->sound->adapt sound?
Could it be that the adaptive sound is processing at certain point of time trying to give you the best sound that its think of?
afiqsabri said:
hi, mine is XXUBMJ1, after 3 weeks of usage, the volume automatically increase sometimes, what could be the problem, is it a bug or hardware ? should upgrade the firmware ?
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[Update] Looks like this is not an isolated issue. My friend's wife also facing the same problem and she sent in to reflash the unit at Samsung Care Center and the problem just disappear. My friend told me factory reset doesn't help though.
I have exactly the same issue you have. Same XXUBMJ1 ans using the device for a month now. Unknown and just reported to Samsung and was asked to walk in to get advice.
I suppose the problem exists for all 5.0.2 versions that have been released so far. Obviously I didn’t check all of them by myself, only the versions without operator customization (Central Europe, Nordic Combined, etc.).
The usage of headphones profiles in the sound settings is impossible. Those profiles shift automatically (I guess they reset to the general profile) while changing a track (I noticed this doesn’t happen always and what is most odd, always when I come back to the previous track, the profile resets) doesn’t matter if I’m using Walkman, Spotify or Deezer. Additionally, when I choose a random profile, its settings is random as well (for example settings for MH1C is not always available under MH1C, it changes randomly during such reset) it’s hearable when changing a profile while listening to some track. It’s a total mess.
The other thing is a bug in system keyboard. Probably it’s a matter of the language chosen (I chose polish)- didn’t check that though. When the keyboard is extended and I click on a word which I want to edit, the cursor moves to the end of the word, and it’s necessary to tap on the word again to cause the cursor stay where I want it. Is this a new functionality of Lollipop? It didn’t appear in KitKat.
Do you have some suggestions how those issues. Is somebody going to report them to Sony? Maybe some version that isn’t affected.
If you have Root, installing Viper should eliminate this.
No, I do not use root, and I think I do not need it.
But this is a workaround. I think, that stock music settings are great so I want to use it on LP too, not only on KK. I love LP design, functionality and all of it features. Now I must use KK again cause of this stupid problems...
Someone noticed this issues? On Z3C, or Z3?
Maybe some root workaround, without installing other music settings?
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The usage of headphones profiles in the sound settings is impossible. Those profiles shift automatically (I guess they reset to the general profile) while changing a track (I noticed this doesn’t happen always and what is most odd, always when I come back to the previous track, the profile resets) doesn’t matter if I’m using Walkman, Spotify or Deezer. Additionally, when I choose a random profile, its settings is random as well (for example settings for MH1C is not always available under MH1C, it changes randomly during such reset) it’s hearable when changing a profile while listening to some track. It’s a total mess.
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You are right, I noticed this issue too. Profile switching is inconsistent. Also, audio effects aren't applied automatically on tracks, you need to disable-reenabled them in Sound Effects menu, and do that for each new track (not always, like you said). The Sony SW Audio Effects are basically broken.
So what we can do with it? I really want to use Lollipop again, but I need music app and sound quality working flawless to be satisfied.... Maybe some root solution? Someone, please?
Also this is strange that there are only two of us, who cares about this issue. On the biggest android forum in the world... Sony Z3C audio quality is superb - I does not believe that there are no persons who uses their phones to listen music in great audio quality... I don't want to change my earphones only because it is not playing as good as it should on general audio settings. XBA-3 are great and sounds brilliant on MH1C profile. So I NEED IT to work on Lollipop!
Where are you, guys? Any support is needed asap!
I have an MH1c and the profile is useless for me now :'(
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I recognize the edit issueon my lollipop. When placing the cursor in the middle of a word, it jumps to the end when you start typing. Very annoying :|
I don't use headphones profiles, so can't help in this regard.
Checked the edit function. First - it's specific to the system keyboard, second - it has a very consistent behavior, which leads me to believe that it's not a bug, but a feature. First press on the word is not for editing it, but rather for replacing it from a set of auto-completion options shown when you type - the same set shows up when you press the word after it's already typed. The second press is getting you to editing the word letter-by-letter. I've tried changing the autocorrect options, and when auto-completion suggestions are completely disabled - this feature is disabled too.
It can actually be useful in its current form, though I can definitely understand the need to have a switch to get it disabled without disabling auto-completion suggestions.
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I don't use headphones profiles, so can't help in this regard.
Checked the edit function. First - it's specific to the system keyboard, second - it has a very consistent behavior, which leads me to believe that it's not a bug, but a feature. First press on the word is not for editing it, but rather for replacing it from a set of auto-completion options shown when you type - the same set shows up when you press the word after it's already typed. The second press is getting you to editing the word letter-by-letter. I've tried changing the autocorrect options, and when auto-completion suggestions are completely disabled - this feature is disabled too.
It can actually be useful in its current form, though I can definitely understand the need to have a switch to get it disabled without disabling auto-completion suggestions.
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You mean feature of Xperia Keybord on Lollipop? Lollipop has different version of keyboard than KitKat? Can someone check this? On KK I've got 6.4.A.1.54 Xperia Keyboard. I am curious, if there is different version of keyboard on LP - is there a possibility to install keyboard from KK (without root) and will "the bug" still be present?
This thing - as a "feature" - is something doesn't make sense. On KK you can also change typed word to other from suggestions and - at the same time - you can edit if from where you tap it. Why the hell user has to touch the word again?
Not sure why, but I don't use a system keyboard - I use Smart Keyboard Pro. This "feature" isn't a part of the OS - it only happens when working with Xperia keyboard, with a custom keyboard it isn't happening.
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So what we can do with it? I really want to use Lollipop again, but I need music app and sound quality working flawless to be satisfied.... Maybe some root solution? Someone, please?
Also this is strange that there are only two of us, who cares about this issue. On the biggest android forum in the world... Sony Z3C audio quality is superb - I does not believe that there are no persons who uses their phones to listen music in great audio quality... I don't want to change my earphones only because it is not playing as good as it should on general audio settings. XBA-3 are great and sounds brilliant on MH1C profile. So I NEED IT to work on Lollipop!
Where are you, guys? Any support is needed asap!
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While I agree with you that this is an issue, and if they have the functionality available it SHOULD be working as intended...
If you care about audio fidelity so much, you shouldn't be using an equalizer in the first place, you should buy good headphones, that have been correctly tuned -- either to produce the correct sound or to produce the frequency response you most like. On the fly software equalization is never the answer.
Most people don't care about the issue so much, and audiophiles will have the correct equipment. That's why no one else seems upset at this.
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As for the keyboard, it is most certainly the way sony designed this new keyboard to work. It's not an defect, it's how it works. Try google keyboard, swiftkey, fleksy. I've used all of they and any one is far superior to the xperia keyboard -- the beauty of android is that you can customize what you don't like.
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While I agree with you that this is an issue, and if they have the functionality available it SHOULD be working as intended...
If you care about audio fidelity so much, you shouldn't be using an equalizer in the first place, you should buy good headphones, that have been correctly tuned -- either to produce the correct sound or to produce the frequency response you most like. On the fly software equalization is never the answer.
Most people don't care about the issue so much, and audiophiles will have the correct equipment. That's why no one else seems upset at this.
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Believe me, I am know what I am doing and what I am using.
My headphones works good with Z3C on general profile and without any equalizations (by the way, Z3C has great audio quality, very simillar to eg. Sony ZX1 or Sony A15 audio players). But with MH1C profile works greater than good - it is sounds excellent. This is not an equipment issue thread.
No Xloud, Decreased overall loudness/Volumes.
I am also getting Sound Problems after the Lollipop Update.
1. The Xloud Feature has disappeared from the sound settings and playing music through internal speakers is so terrible, makes sound like coming from a very cheap phone.
2. The loudness has decreased a lot now. I think that Sony have changed the volume levels. I remember that in kitkat volume at lvl 1 was high enough to be audible easily and at max volume, it was pretty high, but now the volume at the minimum level is barely heard even through headpones. The sound i am getting now at max level in LP was at a level less volume in KK.
3. Yes, there is headphones selection problem now in LP, but you can just get the type of sound you need be selecting different ones. For example, if you want to listen to sound for Noice Cancellation headphones, then select those and then select any other to get the NC sound exactly same which came in KitKat firmware. The fact is that you will get the audio type which headphones you have selected previously.
Rest I am not getting any major issue.
even my friend who has xperia Z2 have same problems. I think Sony have used same basics for all lollipop updates.
If the stock eq isn't behaving, replace it with Viper:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
No, there is no problem with equaliser. Is there something to increase volume level.
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I added a thread about audio issues on Sony official support forum, available there:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Software-Updates/Z3-Compact-5-0-2-Lollipop-headphone-profiles-and-music-settings/m-p/982108#U982108
mangatparamveer said:
No, there is no problem with equaliser. Is there something to increase volume level.
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Viper can up volume, as well. It's not as good as a dedicated headphone/dac would be, but it definitely does the job.
mangatparamveer said:
I am also getting Sound Problems after the Lollipop Update.
3. Yes, there is headphones selection problem now in LP, but you can just get the type of sound you need be selecting different ones. For example, if you want to listen to sound for Noice Cancellation headphones, then select those and then select any other to get the NC sound exactly same which came in KitKat firmware. The fact is that you will get the audio type which headphones you have selected previously.
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You mean, that If I chose MH1c profile, change it to another and save settings (go back) - while listening music it will automatically change back to MH1c setting? Not some random profile, or general profile?
The selection does not change, but the sound becomes as that of general headphones profile. I have even updated firmware to 23.1.A.1.28 but still all tge sound issues are there. Maybe in future firmware they will fix it.
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Meh, all hope is gone....
I assume is there a way to manualy get similar to MH1C sound using only equalizer...
When I had an axon 7 before I had issues with crackling/static noises when playing music through the speakers and bluetooth. I'm not sure if it was a hardware or software issue but I got 2 replacement devices and they both had the same issue. In the end I got a refund.
Apart from these sound issues the phone was perfect and I'm thinking about trying it again, since I haven't seen another phone I would buy this year (except xz premium).
I had the axon back when it was on stock marshmallow, so I want to know if anyone has had the same problem or seen an improvement in sound with stock nougat, nougat roms or through using any mods?
viper4arise (numbers, non-aroma) works for me. enable for phone speaker and bluetooth and reduce output gain to -10.5 to see if there's an improvement. I think it requires root and selinux set to permissive for it to work.
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viper4arise (numbers, non-aroma) works for me. enable for phone speaker and bluetooth and reduce output gain to -10.5 to see if there's an improvement. I think it requires root and selinux set to permissive for it to work.
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OK thanks I'll try that when I get it
Hi guys,
I am using bluetooth audio in my car and I noticed just after buying this phone, that when I set phone volume to 100% (in general, any volume above 67%), which I always do, since stock audio is not much powerful, volume changes rapidly during a song. To be more specific - I listen to electronic music and during every kick, volume goes down and up in the gaps between them, so it sounds like a wave. Higher frequencies or silent passages are loud as hell, lower bassy sounds are silent and this changes 2-3 times a second. It rips my ears off.
With my previous phones used in this car (LG G3, Zenfone Max 3), I never had this issue. I even tested some very cheap phones, every single one of them was ok, sound was not even distorted on max phone volume. On any bluetooth headphones it's the same case, so it's not car audio issue. Also when using corded headphones or aux, sound is perfectly fine as it should be.
What I already tried to fix it:
Messing with every setting in developer mode
Unpairing smart watch (just in case)
Tried loads of different audio players - with no EQ on, just flat
Reset to factory settings
Nothing helped. I lost almost a month with Asus "so called" support, I even shot a video for them with clear evidence what is happening. No help, except they tried to make an idiot of me. I get angry just thinking about that communication with them. Am I really the only one with this issue? I don't believe that warranty claim would solve anything and I really want to keep this phone.
Any help would be really appreciated. Thank you.
Try this, Goto Developer Options, activate the "Disable Absolute Volume" toggle (see screenshot). Disconnect and reconnect your Bluetooth connection. Hope it'll work out for you.
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Try this, Goto Developer Options, activate the "Disable Absolute Volume" toggle (see screenshot). Disconnect and reconnect your Bluetooth connection. Hope it'll work out for you.
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Actually, this was the very first thing I tried. Just to be sure, I did it once again together with disconnecting and reconnecting as well, nothing changed...
How about set whatever player you are using to be not battery optimized? I haven't been able to try any fix since I seldomly bluetooth connected to my car stereo. Or try, bluetooth volume control from Playstore maybe?
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How about set whatever player you are using to be not battery optimized? I haven't been able to try any fix since I seldomly bluetooth connected to my car stereo. Or try, bluetooth volume control from Playstore maybe?
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I am using JetAudio and optimization is turned off. Tried volume control you suggested, but it makes no difference. Sound is still messed up.
I use Shuttle as music player, bare in mind that every recording has a different mastering approach, thus volume levelling could be varied, especially on first pressed of classic records. Usually I am amplifying low signal wave records manually. But to keep away from such trouble, I suggest Spotify since it has normalizing feature, or turn on this feature if it is available in your music player.
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How about set whatever player you are using to be not battery optimized? I haven't been able to try any fix since I seldomly bluetooth connected to my car stereo. Or try, bluetooth volume control from Playstore maybe?
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I use poweramp.
It really help you. Give a try.
Do not use any third party equalizer app with Poweramp,use it's own eq .
I use CM's audiofx since it has somewhat subtle enhancement, aggressive sound tweak is nice but after 10 minutes or so, it tends to hurt my (old) ears. So most of the time I turn off EQ in order to preserve original sound, not that always works though, especially when it comes to mainstream records.
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I use Shuttle as music player, bare in mind that every recording has a different mastering approach, thus volume levelling could be varied, especially on first pressed of classic records. Usually I am amplifying low signal wave records manually. But to keep away from such trouble, I suggest Spotify since it has normalizing feature, or turn on this feature if it is available in your music player.
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I am listening to my offline archive, not using Spotify etc. There is no way how the source file is affected - maybe one, but hundreds of tracks? Nope. If I have 67% volume or less set in my phone, sound is fine (but overall volume is low, since stock audio has no other amplifier. But when phone is set to 100%, no matter how loud I set car audio, sound gets wavy then. No other phone ever had this issue, I tried direct comparison as well.
I managed to do some test for a whole album on my way home, I could declare the volume level as well as connection was quite stable with no apparent bitrate drop. As a matter of fact it's superior than realme 2 pro which was suck big time in audio department. Although it is no comparison to my now dead lg V10, at this price point I can safely say I'm quite satisfied. The stereo is neither after market nor android auto.
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I managed to do some test for a whole album on my way home, I could declare the volume level as well as connection was quite stable with no apparent bitrate drop. As a matter of fact it's superior than realme 2 pro which was suck big time in audio department. Although it is no comparison to my now dead lg V10, at this price point I can safely say I'm quite satisfied. The stereo is neither after market nor android auto.
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Thank you for your efforts, so it looks like this is issue on my side. I already contacted seller and I will apply for warranty claim, because there's nothing more I can do.
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I am listening to my offline archive, not using Spotify etc. There is no way how the source file is affected - maybe one, but hundreds of tracks? Nope. If I have 67% volume or less set in my phone, sound is fine (but overall volume is low, since stock audio has no other amplifier. But when phone is set to 100%, no matter how loud I set car audio, sound gets wavy then. No other phone ever had this issue, I tried direct comparison as well.
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I also have the same problem with my Bluetooth headphones (Sony WH CH400) which does not happen on my Redmi 3S (PE 9).
Songs can't hit the high frequencies and sound gets lowered down.
I googled and apparently its the stock Bluetooth stack that doesn't let the bitrate go above certain amount and needs some patching which Asus may not do.
Check this https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/improve-bluetooth-audio-quality-t3832615
@Junglista what did you do? found any workaround?
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@Junglista what did you do? found any workaround?
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Not yet, I read briefly the forum you advised, but I need to dig in a bit more. Anyway, even this the closest cause, I don't believe that this is issue is bitrate related (but I may be wrong). I still can hear high frequencies in music, but when bassy part comes in, it's like someone turns higher frequencies volume down, so you can hardly hear them. And when bass is gone, volume rises again to "match" volume of lower frequencies. I still did not apply for warranty claim, because according to the forum you posted, I don't want to give up early and try patching the stack (if I will be able to somehow). Nevertheless, I know exactly what reply I would receive after 30 days at after sales service - issue was not found.
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Thank you for your efforts, so it looks like this is issue on my side. I already contacted seller and I will apply for warranty claim, because there's nothing more I can do.
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Hey! Literally i have the same problem. I have the same phone 4 gb variant. I previously used a phone with dolby and now this phone sucks. I think every phone unit has the same problem.
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Not yet, I read briefly the forum you advised, but I need to dig in a bit more. Anyway, even this the closest cause, I don't believe that this is issue is bitrate related (but I may be wrong). I still can hear high frequencies in music, but when bassy part comes in, it's like someone turns higher frequencies volume down, so you can hardly hear them. And when bass is gone, volume rises again to "match" volume of lower frequencies. I still did not apply for warranty claim, because according to the forum you posted, I don't want to give up early and try patching the stack (if I will be able to somehow). Nevertheless, I know exactly what reply I would receive after 30 days at after sales service - issue was not found.
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I've requested a developer to implement this in his rom. Let's wait and hope the issue to be addressed by our amazing community, else our only hope is Asus Pie update.
PS. I have the exact issue, maybe I explained poorly. lol.
lscambo13 said:
I've requested a developer to implement this in his rom. Let's wait and hope the issue to be addressed by our amazing community, else our only hope is Asus Pie update.
PS. I have the exact issue, maybe I explained poorly. lol.
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I have the same issue with audio quality via bluetooth. Hope Asus will fix it
rooos said:
I have the same issue with audio quality via bluetooth. Hope Asus will fix it
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I've reported the bug on ZenTalk. I encourage everyone to report there too because it should be Asus' duty to fix this bug on stock rom.
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/in/thread-266521-1-1.html
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I've reported the bug on ZenTalk. I encourage everyone to report there too because it should be Asus' duty to fix this bug on stock rom.
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/in/thread-266521-1-1.html
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I just put my comment there, hopefully things will start to move. Thanks for helping with this.
Smk_04 said:
Hey! Literally i have the same problem. I have the same phone 4 gb variant. I previously used a phone with dolby and now this phone sucks. I think every phone unit has the same problem.
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Hey i found a way to tweak up things. The new omni player is on xda. It has a setting called output method. Select the OPEN SL ES. .ur problem will be solved.
App link: https://www-xda--developers-com.cdn...esign-audio-google-cast-android-auto-support/