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I'll just leave this here... [Find 5 XDA Review]

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/device-review-oppo-find-5/

Every review I read makes me want mine to arrive quicker. Pretty much universal praise with a few minor niggles which every device has.
-- From my N7102

kinghu said:
Every review I read makes me want mine to arrive quicker. Pretty much universal praise with a few minor niggles which every device has.
-- From my N7102
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Speaking of hardware, the only meh so far are the volume-/powerbuttons. They appear quite cheap and wobbly. Stock-SW is sth you have to get used to. Or simply give a custom-rom a try.

draa2711 said:
Speaking of hardware, the only meh so far are the volume-/powerbuttons. They appear quite cheap and wobbly. Stock-SW is sth you have to get used to. Or simply give a custom-rom a try.
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Mine arrived and the buttons are solid enough. Could be better (aluminium) but nothing to put me off and certainly better than the N7100/N7102 I am leaving behind, which have a silly amount of creaks and soft areas considering their price.
Most reviews have been on the mark now I've actually got the device. Areas of improvement for sure but initial impressions are it's a really fine effort considering the size and experience of the competition. Starting out with stock (official) ROM before going to Betas and AOSP/AOKP to see how each fare. I quite like the stock interface - a bit of a change from traditional dark Android and it doesn't lag like TouchWiz
Also, the text difficult to read as noted in the review is fixed - screen of notification pull-down in current official stock ROM (0514).
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kinghu said:
Mine arrived and the buttons are solid enough. Could be better (aluminium) but nothing to put me off and certainly better than the N7100/N7102 I am leaving behind, which have a silly amount of creaks and soft areas considering their price.
Most reviews have been on the mark now I've actually got the device. Areas of improvement for sure but initial impressions are it's a really fine effort considering the size and experience of the competition. Starting out with stock (official) ROM before going to Betas and AOSP/AOKP to see how each fare. I quite like the stock interface - a bit of a change from traditional dark Android and it doesn't lag like TouchWiz
Also, the text difficult to read as noted in the review is fixed - screen of notification pull-down in current official stock ROM (0514).
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Thanks for the heads up! Oppo's rep has also contacted letting me know that it has been fixed some time ago (shame on me!). Anyway, I've updated my review.

I guess it's a good way for people interested to see how Oppo progresses the software with user feedback.
-- From my Find 5

Thanks for that fantatstic review.
A very interesting point in the review is this sentence: "Want a Google Edition device? This comes pretty darn close!"
I follow all the cm/aokp/pac/pa threads but as far as ive seen, there are troubles with the camera, overall stability and performance. Why are there no stable or almost stable roms out if this device is every developers dream?

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Thanks for that fantatstic review.
A very interesting point in the review is this sentence: "Want a Google Edition device? This comes pretty darn close!"
I follow all the cm/aokp/pac/pa threads but as far as ive seen, there are troubles with the camera, overall stability and performance. Why are there no stable or almost stable roms out if this device is every developers dream?
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cm10.1 WORKS.
Camera as well. It is far more stable than stock. Decent battery life.

stevefwt said:
cm10.1 WORKS.
Camera as well. It is far more stable than stock. Decent battery life.
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Yeah, it works, but its far away from stable and the camera still has its bugs. Im not complaining, dont get me wrong, i just want to know why the find 5 is always mentioned when people search for a dev friendly aosp device.
Also there are so few people around in this forum that i fear that the dev`s loose their interest in this device, before theres a stable release of an aosp rom.

soulcrash said:
Thanks for that fantatstic review.
A very interesting point in the review is this sentence: "Want a Google Edition device? This comes pretty darn close!"
I follow all the cm/aokp/pac/pa threads but as far as ive seen, there are troubles with the camera, overall stability and performance. Why are there no stable or almost stable roms out if this device is every developers dream?
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Time. The device has only been out a few months, and honestly, both xplodwild and I have been pretty busy with non-CM stuff lately.
Our fault, not Oppo's. Oppo has been, without a doubt, a pleasure to work with. They even sent me a SECOND device (with the serial console hardware populated along with two serial cables) to help with the kernel rebase. Unfortunately after making massive progress on it two weekends ago, I haven't had time to touch CM at all on any device since then.

Entropy512 said:
Time. The device has only been out a few months, and honestly, both xplodwild and I have been pretty busy with non-CM stuff lately.
Our fault, not Oppo's. Oppo has been, without a doubt, a pleasure to work with. They even sent me a SECOND device (with the serial console hardware populated along with two serial cables) to help with the kernel rebase. Unfortunately after making massive progress on it two weekends ago, I haven't had time to touch CM at all on any device since then.
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I wouldn`t dare to complain about the dev`s awesome work, i was just a little bit unsure about the possibility of seeing a stable aosp rom one day, and whether i should keep my find 5 or send it back. To hear that oppo is a pleasure to work with and that awesome dev`s like you will carry on gives me enough certainty to keep that fantastic piece of hardware, and to supply some money to donate

I... am sold. Oppo's proactive dev support is just too awesome. I can see development taking off with this device months down the line, and that's saying much considering that it's already got a solid base for its age.
Looking forward to being a dev labrat~

The Sony Xperia Tablet Z - EISA Award Winner

Here's something to further boost our kiddie egos and bragging rights :victory: - It comes as no surprise to me really that the exquisite Sony XTZ is EISA's pick for the European Tablet of the Year 2013 - 2014. So happy I went with Sony on this one
Hit the link for the short run down: http://www.eisa.eu/award/31/european-tablet-2013-2014.html:cool:
Tell me this doesn't make you that much prouder to be an SXTZ owner :highfive:
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Its a good Android tablet. For a time at least, lol.
I do agree that given the weight and size its a marvel of technology considering the performance and quality of construction.
Sony appear to be moving in the right direction, lets hope this trend continues.

Even if it is the winner, i don't see any real developer here, the development section is dead, i mean like dead in dead. Nothing new is happening there. I don't know why.... God dammit developers build some kernels, roms

Anicane said:
Even if it is the winner, i don't see any real developer here, the development section is dead, i mean like dead in dead. Nothing new is happening there. I don't know why.... God dammit developers build some kernels, roms
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Have to agree about it being dead around here. There was some activity at first when there a was a prize on offer...but since then, dead
I must admit I knew that if I wanted loads of development I should have bought the Nexus 10. Buying the SXTZ came with the risk of little or no development...and that risk has turned into reality.
On the other hand, the stock ROM is pretty good and at the moment going to a custom ROM means you'll lose more useful features than you gain.
All I really want on top of stock is Nova launcher and PIE/LTA so I can lose all the navigation/notification/status bars. That's why I've gone to PAC.
But I've lost my warranty, GPS, DRM keys, HDMI out, being able to charge with tablet off, and a few other things.
I sometimes wish I'd bought the Nexus 10...but I'm telling myself I've got to kick the ROM-flashing habit.
Oh well, at least I've got my Nexus 4 to keep me occupied

GretaLewd said:
Have to agree about it being dead around here. There was some activity at first when there a was a prize on offer...but since then, dead
I must admit I knew that if I wanted loads of development I should have bought the Nexus 10. Buying the SXTZ came with the risk of little or no development...and that risk has turned into reality.
On the other hand, the stock ROM is pretty good and at the moment going to a custom ROM means you'll lose more useful features than you gain.
All I really want on top of stock is Nova launcher and PIE/LTA so I can lose all the navigation/notification/status bars. That's why I've gone to PAC.
But I've lost my warranty, GPS, DRM keys, HDMI out, being able to charge with tablet off, and a few other things.
I sometimes wish I'd bought the Nexus 10...but I'm telling myself I've got to kick the ROM-flashing habit.
Oh well, at least I've got my Nexus 4 to keep me occupied
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Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.

Anicane said:
Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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Don't look now, but TechRadar seems to share the same views as us. They also gave the SXTZ top honors as 2013's tablet: http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/10-best-tablet-pcs-in-the-world-today-1079603

Anicane said:
Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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I just don't comprehend why Sony products are favored by developers.... Sony offers so very much better support than other OEMs, like Samsung and HTC, and send updates ,such faster than other OEMs as well. It seems like Sony would/should be a developer favorite, the only thing I can think of is that no major Sony flagship smartphones are carried by the major US carriers, AT&T and T-Mobile have carried 1 or 2 but Verizon hasn't had one since the Play, but there should still be more development.
The price tag is another thing hindering development but not much, the other tablets I was looking at before I purchased the XTZ offered much less for the same amount or more, really the price is not too bad when you think about it. The LTE model is overpriced, $900 in the US when I bout my WiFi model, but I would guess the reason for that would be to deter people from buying it off contract. If money is the issue there have still been major amounts of development on phones and tablets with the same, or higher, price tag, I paid less for my XTZ than my Note 2 or any other phone I've bought in the past few years, so there has to be something I am missing.
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shangrila500 said:
I just don't comprehend why Sony products are favored by developers....
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I think you mean " I just don't comprehend why Sony products are not favored by developers...."

[Q] Where do we go next from the OPO?

I can't seem to desire any other phone. I love the display, I love the size. Speed is good. Battery is very good (running stock CM). Not to mention the price.
Also - I love the hardware buttons (I think software buttons - like in the nexus 6p for example - are a waste of screen real estate).
Anyone upgraded and was happy doing so?

I'm in the same boat as you, my phone is almost 2 years old now but i feel no need to upgrade. Unless you live in a area with faster than 150mbs lte, want a finger print scanner, or a crystal clear screen, i would just keep it until the op4.

Had the One for just over a year now and don't feel the need for an upgrade. When I do end up upgrading this phone, it will not be another OnePlus device. The 2 and X have shown little improvements as successors to the One. There will be better options when the time comes

The OPO really opened me up to the modding capabilities of android. As so many people had grabbed the phone and experimented, there was lots of support. CyanogenMod was a key factor in my decision to get it, and I agree with @kenboyles72 : The 2 and X haven't improved enough for me to want to upgrade.
Also, there's nothing wrong with the OPO, even two years old. It still outperforms most of my mates devices

will be a better unit. BUT not that too soon.
opo will be still outstanding unit at least few more years.
Used to handle HTC models prior to opo
really appreciated opo unit.
appropriate in many ways.

I'm going to wait for the OnePlus 3 to see what it has in store, and if the price is high or it doesn't impress me with it's design and such, I'm going with the Xiaomi Mi5. I mean 4GB of RAM, Snapdragon 820, Fingerprint Scanner, Marshmallow, Good Camera, Awesome design and 64GB of storage for ~700AUD, I'm sold.

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I'm going to wait for the OnePlus 3 to see what it has in store, and if the price is high or it doesn't impress me with it's design and such, I'm going with the Xiaomi Mi5. I mean 4GB of RAM, Snapdragon 820, Fingerprint Scanner, Marshmallow, Good Camera, Awesome design and 64GB of storage for ~700AUD, I'm sold.
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Is it bootloader unlocked? Or do you plan on staying on stock for several months hoping for some AOSP support only to switch again? Most of the time it's better to wait and see how popular a device is before buying as the more popular a device is the more likely it is to get a good development scene
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Is it bootloader unlocked? Or do you plan on staying on stock for several months hoping for some AOSP support only to switch again? Most of the time it's better to wait and see how popular a device is before buying as the more popular a device is the more likely it is to get a good development scene
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Boot loader is locked and honestly I don't care. I don't care what Android skin I use, everyone makes a big fuss about oh I can use this and ew Touchwiz and what not and honestly I don't care. I use Google Messenger for texting, Snapchat, Reddit and Facebook Messenger. I'd be lucky to make an hour of phone calls a week. I install Google Now Launcher on the device and an icon pack, the main interaction I have with MIUI is the status bar and recents apps menu. Like looking at this, you wouldn't even know it was MIUI underneath.
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OP3 or whatever ~5" Nexus device(s) come out this year.

Went to a Nexus 5x already, but keep leaning back to the OPO that's still lying around.

After The opo will be useless at 2018 i will looking into new battery techs

i was thinking to Nexus 6p, but I've see now the 820's snapdragon devices.... So I think I will wait for sure the next Nexus, if it will be nice i will buy that... And obviously, have a look to opo4

I'm waiting on the note 6... after it gets a custom recovery.

One plus 3 ( if specifications equal or above opo ).

Maybe mi5 when price drops or Next Nexus, opo is still uncomparable as price/quality ratio

Using this thing until it is too slow to use day to day...did this with my HTC g2 and m7. When they start to lag behind too much and battery dies too often, it was upgrade time. I always make sure lots of memory is free for performance.
Sent from the one and only Oneplus One

thus is cool but i am worried if there is hope of android o for us with this one or any good custom roms or any new holy **** kernels as i donot see dev with opo2 then what with opo3 opo 4 will dim

S7 Edge on Tmobile's buy one get one free deal.

I was just browsing the subforum and happened to come across this. I personally own the X which is essentially a more compact One with an AMOLED screen and expandable storage.
I would say keep the One. It's a great phone and if you compare performance of the X to the one, I'd say that there isn't a reason for you to upgrade to anything at all. If you must, go for the X. It's really a side grade if anything as both devices level one another out on terms of HW, but in all honesty, keep what you have. You guys have the best ROMs, the best revision of the 801, and the best kernels after all. Enjoy what you have.

I've had inconsistent performance with the GPS on my OPO. I'm really tempted to get a 5X now that it's $200 (plus that first month of service, right?). Didn't know how important the GPS would be to me.

A bunch of YouTube reviews are finally in...

Hola
Take your pick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbFkq66yh8w
Android Authority
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f_BTRPUr6k
MKHD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=744DPse1cPE
PocketNow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__PmU8N0Lrw
MrMobile[Michael Fisher]
Overall it is a very positive on the reviews.. very similar to the existing and initial OnePlus 3 reviews save for the increase in costs.

Thanks for posting. It seems like the general consensus is that if you were looking at the 1+3, the 1+3t is worth the extra $40, but not worth upgrading if you already have a 3.

Great phone...all the reviews are very positive ..i was between mate 9 or OP3T..
but it was not so difficult to make a choice..
OP3T wins very easy to replase my old LG G3.
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i noticed all the reviews are pretty general and stating specs... no mention of the EIS, battery, benchmark comparisons. side by side comparisons of images and video.
they dont really go into detail. of course the phone will be fast, switching between apps and gaming.
dont get me wrong, i like the phone

Even though I watched these reviews and the phone checks everything I need, I still am hesitant to buy it; the reviews are for people who just use Android, not tinker with Android. My biggest concern is with the dev community. I come from an OPO and I don't think I'll be able to stomach a phone with little community support. If only this phone were never released; then my choice would be obvious in getting an OP3. Only time will tell how this subforum grows or withers. I'm hopeful but not optimistic.

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Even though I watched these reviews and the phone checks everything I need, I still am hesitant to buy it; the reviews are for people who just use Android, not tinker with Android. My biggest concern is with the dev community. I come from an OPO and I don't think I'll be able to stomach a phone with little community support. If only this phone were never released; then my choice would be obvious in getting an OP3. Only time will tell how this subforum grows or withers. I'm hopeful but not optimistic.
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This is what I don't understand why people keep bring up the point about dev support. I mean it's not like every dev on earth just declared war on OP3T. Seriously how many custom ROMs do you need? The way I look at it, even just a few good one and pick one among them that suit you best is enough. Even for phone w/ locked bootloader are still some mod ROMs crop up here and there, and it's not like the OP3T will have a lock bootloader. Unless I get something wrong, just because some current OP3 dev say they don't plan to support OP3T, does that mean there won't be other? Or the OP3 one will never move to OP3T? I'm not a dev, but if I own OP3 right now I wouldn't plan on getting OP3T. But if the OP3 would break next week then I would be seriously thinking on the new OP3T rather than buying a used OP3 somewhere else. Aside from that, maybe there are some dev that was planing to do some work on the Note 7 would come over.

tlxxxsracer said:
i noticed all the reviews are pretty general and stating specs... no mention of the EIS, battery, benchmark comparisons. side by side comparisons of images and video.
they dont really go into detail. of course the phone will be fast, switching between apps and gaming.
dont get me wrong, i like the phone
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I've watched an italian review with side by side comparison...op3t is faster in opening apps or games....

Antutu scores..
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Both phones are Oneplus A3003?

Crazy32 said:
Both phones are Oneplus A3003?
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The model number stays the same on OP3T..
A3003.....

cultofluna said:
The model number stays the same on OP3T..
A3003.....
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Interesting, considering that and what OP said about the update for OP3 and OP3T will be on the same cycle. Does this mean there will just be one ROM for both of them?

someone0 said:
Interesting, considering that and what OP said about the update for OP3 and OP3T will be on the same cycle. Does this mean there will just be one ROM for both of them?
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That should be nice....

Linus Tech Tips review is up:
EDIT:
Also there is an AMA on the /r/Android subreddit where a lot of questions are addressed:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/5ebdod/oneplus_ama_oneplus_3t_edition/

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I've watched an italian review with side by side comparison...op3t is faster in opening apps or games....
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That's because the OP3T is on the newer version of OxygenOS that is currently available with the community builds and the F2FS filesystem system is utilized by default instead of EXT4.

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That's because the OP3T is on the newer version of OxygenOS that is currently available with the community builds and the F2FS filesystem system is utilized by default instead of EXT4.
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And because it's running a better processor hehe..
I've just order this baby.....

cultofluna said:
And because it's running a better processor hehe..
I've just order this baby.....
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The Snapdragon 821 is for the most part not much different than the Snapdragon 820 apart from the higher factory clock speed. Also that won't significantly impact the speed of opening applications. The OP3 also has similar improvements in app loading speeds when using F2FS on the newer community builds, and both devices will be on essentially the same builds going into the future.
Just got my OP3T less than twelve hours ago

Found a speedtest review in another language but you get the idea. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBX7ZB1sAeA

Anand's review is up: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10836/the-oneplus-3t-mini-review
Excellent to see the display accuracy has improved even further.

ithehappy said:
Anand's review is up.
Excellent to see the display accuracy has improved even further.
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Anandtech removed the post in "battery life and charge time" where they say that the Oneplus 3T throttle alot,
There's a comparison videos on the youtube channel YourTechGuide on OnePlus 3T between OnePlus 3 and the iPhone 7 Plus and by the benchmarks results the new OnePlus 3T throttle alot...

OnePlus is done selling its flagship 5T in North America

Guess the OnePlus 6 is right around the corner.
https://www.engadget.com/amp/2018/03/23/oneplus-5t-done-in-north-america/

azsl1326 said:
Guess the OnePlus 6 is right around the corner.
https://www.engadget.com/amp/2018/03/23/oneplus-5t-done-in-north-america/
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We are a little over two months away from the O6 if OnePlus sticks with their usual release schedule.
They just ran out of stock and it'd be too much money and time to continue replenishing stock for another 8 weeks

Lucky you you did not buy this phone, wait for One plus 6 , the same as one plus 5t but with a notch .

Why lucky... The Oneplus 5t is fantastic. You can always play the waiting game forever.

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Lucky you you did not buy this phone, wait for One plus 6 , the same as one plus 5t but with a notch .
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This is definitely not something I would call 'luckily", a 5T with a notch is not what I call beautiful.

Yep, hate "the notch". Not a little, a lot. I'd keep my money in my pocket for that reason alone. There is one other reason though, I've soured on the flagship phone drill. I have a Note 8 sitting in a drawer a few feet away. I stopped using it when they had the issue with OEM unlock going away and got this (5T) phone. What I found when I purchased this phone was that in some ways it's better, mostly it's a push, in some ways it's worse. That gets some clarity when you consider the pricing, this phone was just slightly more than half the price of that one and I in no way feeling like the better phone is in a drawer unused. If you ask me the truth is some people haven't figured out the flagship wars are over. Phones are becoming very good and performance is becoming an expected bottom line. Just to be clear, I'm not the only one that thinks this, the OEM's themselves are trying to get people hooked on ecosystems because performance is becoming a non issue. People expect their phone to be fast and work without issue no matter the price point making it hard to sell hardware, you have to sell the software and ecosystem.
Summation... I have bought one, two, sometimes three flagships a year since before android came out. Yeah, I came from windows mobile where the action was in the old days. Android upped the ante and I jumped on day one. I've got money to burn being old and having my retirement in the bank. I could keep right on buying several phones a year but I'm seeing little point. I never wait for anything on the phone now and the only way I can prove this phone is faster than the last one is if I run benchmarks. I'm off the treadmill and I've been thinking of doing it for a couple phones now but the 5T versus Note 8 comparison is what made it happen. There isn't much point anymore in throwing money at phones, I can always buy 500 dollar bottles of wine if I feel like burning money to no particular end at and least doing that will net me a hangover. The 6T having a notch is all I need to know, I throw my money elsewhere whenever something comes out which actually looks like an upgrade.

I think the notch looks nice to be honest. Can't wait for the OnePlus 6

I'm thinking about buying 5T. Pixel 2 doesn't seem like a good value compared to 5T, and Pixel gen 1 is a year older than OP5T at around the same price.
One major downside about the 5T is no project treble. From my understanding this means it won't be upgraded to Android P (because then they'd be mandated to implement treble.) Given the release date, it's sort of like OP5T purposely shipped with Nougat so they can claim it received at least one major update.
But like I said, for the money it's probably the best value right now. I'm interested in hearing what you guys think, particularly in regards to development and overall performance/stability of custom roms.
Without project treble do you think there's enough interest in this device to keep the Devs hanging around a couple of years?
I've gone through 3 phones in 3 years and would ideally like to keep my next phone for awhile. Thanks

guys if the only difference is the notch and 845 is it really worth the upgrade?
i mean P20 has a 40 MP RGB camera which will release next month, i love my 5T, the smoothest experience ive ever had period.
the camera is a let down and from what ive seen its been a let down for a while - i have the mate 10 pro before my 5T and the M10P had amazing cameras,with an overwhelming amount of modes to choose from, almost DSLR like.
i think its too early to decide, but if the only difference is the notch, and SD845 and a somewhat improved camera then i think i may jump on the P20 next as i take quiet a few pictures throughout the day. but its too early without all the specs available (memory / ram / sensor type and size / etc)
oneplus has left an impression on me, one that no other phone has before - but i think their camera game needs a massive re-haul, huawei got lucky with their Leica partnership.

Heyyy everyone. I was just going to buy Oneplus 5t but now I am a bit skeptical to buy it looking at comments regarding its camera performance. I have owned a oneplus 3 and never heard such bad things about it's camera, but oneplus 5t is not the same. Anyway does anyone of you have an idea about honor view 10 ? Have kept it as an option. I can't wait for oneplus 6 to launch as I need a phone on urgent basis

Yup, the 6 will have a notch...
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...and apparently a chin on the bottom bezel. I'm glad I have a 5T.
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