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[Poll] Who is getting LG G3 ?

Hi fellow Xda'ians.
Starting a poll to see how many of you will be buying the new phone.
I am and cant wait to see some development happening for this phone.

Really hoping the G3 satisfies my needs to qualify an upgrade, basic needs in order are :-
* 3GB ram to make it future proof
* Great camera
* SD Card
* Removable battery
* Good sound (stereo speakers would be great)
If it has these, I'm buying it and can't wait to buy it, else I'll have to look at the oppo find 7

I am. Cause I know LG is going to deliver.
Here is what I think the phone specs are going to be.
* 5.5 inch QHD display
* Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 SoC
* 3400 mah non removable battery
* 16 mp camera with OIS
* 2mp front facing camera
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I will be picking one up for sure...havent bought a new device since my note 3 and ive been waiting awhile for this bad boy.
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I will more than likely. I mean, don't get me wrong, really liking my g flex, but honestly, it's just a tad bit to big and for whatever reason don't play nice with Netflix. The voice will be a hair off and is Uber annoying! So if I can trim some size down and streams that better, I'll be using my jump program a lot sooner than anticipated.
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I am for sure. Hoping Verizon won't be like the last one on the list.. Hope they sell it first like the m8
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I'm considering it... if there is indeed no new Nexus phone this year, I'll probably get myself a G3.

JesseMT4G said:
I will more than likely. I mean, don't get me wrong, really liking my g flex, but honestly, it's just a tad bit to big and for whatever reason don't play nice with Netflix. The voice will be a hair off and is Uber annoying! So if I can trim some size down and streams that better, I'll be using my jump program a lot sooner than anticipated.
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Oh man if the gflex had sd card support or more int storage I would have picked one up immediately. Such a cool device just small storage. ..which is the only issue I also have with my g2..thankfully LG has fixed that shortcoming on the G3!
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I certainly hope so otherwise I'm going drive myself around the bend!
My Vivid is way past it's upgrade date.
I waited for the Nexus 5, but decide against it thinking the S5 would be a better choice, then saw that the M8 was imminent.
I have been on the fence with both of these phones.
I was really disappointed with the build quality/QC on the M8, widely reported and as I have seen first hand on a number of in store units. Add in screen polarizing issues,camera and reduced usable screen area made me think twice.
The S5 appears to have a lot of lag issues and this coupled with the fiddly charging port cover made me wonder if could sit out another 2 years with this phone.
I then saw the G3 on the horizon and figured that it looks like the phone for me, unless of course there's something else coming soon!
Hopefully the announcement in 10 days time will be followed by product in store to put me out of my misery!

dadsterflip said:
I am for sure. Hoping Verizon won't be like the last one on the list.. Hope they sell it first like the m8
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they are for sure getting it soon. :good:

I'm really wanting to get one, but I had to go with maybe because who knows how long ATT will have devs locked down trying to get into the bootloader (GS4/5)

barondebxl said:
I am. Cause I know LG is going to deliver.
Here is what I think the phone specs are going to be.
* 5.5 inch QHD display
* Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 SoC
* 3400 mah non removable battery
* 16 mp camera with OIS
* 2mp front facing camera
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-yes
-i believe it will have 801
-last time i checked it was 3000
-nope..13mb
-correct

I'm getting it
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Take my money LG.

probably to replace my S4
the phone looks great

While the Note 3 is still top dog in my book I will be using my first jump on the G3.
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Man I can't wait for this!
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If the Verizon variant is able to be rooted at a minimum then I will pick one up otherwise I may end up the HTC One m8 route or wait for the next big thing to come along.
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hello00 said:
-yes
-i believe it will have 801
-last time i checked it was 3000
-nope..13mb
-correct
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It appears that you read this article and are just parroting it back or do you have a different basis for your assertions?

ctbaker said:
If the Verizon variant is able to be rooted at a minimum then I will pick one up otherwise I may end up the HTC One m8 route or wait for the next big thing to come along.
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It appears that you read this article and are just parroting it back or do you have a different basis for your assertions?
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it is on every article and every article that i read are legit..where are u getting at?

Looking at this to replace my note 3. Really grabbed me attention, thought about getting the m8 but that bezel.... my god HTC lost me with that wasted screen real estate.
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Nexus 6, Moto X Play, or Note 4

Let the debate begin. Obviously these 3 devices will be the highest end you can buy.
As for me, I am completely torn between the 3 devices.
I am really upset that the Droid Turbo/Moto X Play will have better specs than the Nexus 6. (21mp camera, HUGE Battery)
Here are my thoughts.
Nexus 6
- Always will have latest version of Android
- 6 inch display is too damn big. (But will look very nice with 2k )
- Camera is nowhere near top of the line by today's standards.
- No removable battery or expandable storage
- Wireless charging!
- No IR blaster. (Sorry, this feature is awesome. Have you ever turned off a TV at the bar in the middle of the game?? )
- It's gorgeous
Moto X Play/Droid Turbo
- I would rather take 5.2 in display over 6 in
- Tablet sized batterry
- 21MP Camera!
- No guarantee it will always have latest version of Android
- Moto X Play will probably will take forever to come out after Droid Turbo because of Verizon exclusive. I want my new phone NOW
Note 4
- Great camera (Better than nexus 6)
- Replaceable battery and expandable storage
- IR Blaster
- It is also gorgeous
- Touchwiz has always, and will always suck.
- Flashing any AOSP/CM based rom will break a lot of the features. It will also degrade camera performance because of the new kernel
What y'all think?

I am only torn between 2. The moto x and the Nexus 6....I just can't stand touch wiz.
Really my only doubt is the size of the Nexus but it is a Nexus. Love my N5 and i still feel it has a lot of longevity but man oh man do I want that new hardware....

I'm torn with note 4 and nexus. I'm on verizon now and plan to move to t mobile. My fear with the turbo is major bloat and the inability to root and use recovery.

Sudbury78 said:
I'm torn with note 4 and nexus. I'm on verizon now and plan to move to t mobile. My fear with the turbo is major bloat and the inability to root and use recovery.
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I am on Tmo. There should be a GSM variant of the Turbo coming out called the Moto X Play per an FCC filing.
I think it is safe to say that from a pure specs perspective, this phone is at the top.

Hmmm intriguing. Now I'm more confused and sad I have to wait. Haha

Its also worth noting that all of these moto phones coming out are still operating under Google ownership. This should be good thing with keeping the bloat to a minimum.

What is this Moto X Play thing, I never heard of that. As far as I understand the official name is Droid Turbo.
gregk232 said:
- Camera is nowhere near top of the line by today's standards.
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Where did you even make this conclusion from? Have you actually used it or are you just basing it on Megapixel counts?
I have used the OnePlus before which use the Sony Exmor214 sensor, which is actually pretty high end. A lot of it will come down to post processing software. So we have to wait and see. Here is a 4K DCI example of the video recording using the same sensor as in the Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y4GvxAHFxU
I got some pretty high quality images from the OnePlus camera myself, even though it doesn't have the best post processing technology.

eksasol said:
What is this Moto X Play thing, I never heard of that. As far as I understand the official name is Droid Turbo.
Where did you even make this conclusion from? Have you actually used it or are you just basing it on Megapixel counts?
I have used the OnePlus before which use the Sony Exmor214 sensor, which is actually pretty high end. A lot of it will come down to post processing software. So we have to wait and see. Here is a 4K DCI example of the video recording using the same sensor as in the Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y4GvxAHFxU
I got some pretty high quality images from the OnePlus camera myself, even though it doesn't have the best post processing technology.
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Hey. Here is some info on the Moto X Play FCC filing.
I was under the impression that the Moto X and the Nexus 6 would have the same camera. From what I have seen in the review videos of the Moto X is that the camera is not good at all.
I will check out the sample you sent... should be interesting.

I'm torn between the nexus 6 and the moto x play. On the one hand the play (or whatever it will be called on Att and tmobile) has that awesome battery, super camera, more usable size. However it appears to lack LTE band 12 for the non vzw variant. That's a bummer because 700 mhz is awesome for building penetration and T-Mobile has bought a lot of it this year.
Nexus 6 has it plus a reasonable battery. I love my nexus 5 except for the battery could be 25% better.
One the size issue, I held an iPhone 6 plus the other day and it wasn't that bad. I could see myself getting used to it.
Note 4 is right out. Can't stand Samsung devices except for my galaxy nexus (still have).
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I have the note 3 and its tits, I'm getting the nexus 6. If I ever get annoyed, I can always go back to my note 3. Nexus 4 and 5 were a bore to me. I'm actually very boob excited for this nexus 6
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pedxing said:
I'm torn between the nexus 6 and the moto x play. On the one hand the play (or whatever it will be called on Att and tmobile) has that awesome battery, super camera, more usable size. However it appears to lack LTE band 12 for the non vzw variant. That's a bummer because 700 mhz is awesome for building penetration and T-Mobile has bought a lot of it this year.
Nexus 6 has it plus a reasonable battery. I love my nexus 5 except for the battery could be 25% better.
One the size issue, I held an iPhone 6 plus the other day and it wasn't that bad. I could see myself getting used to it.
Note 4 is right out. Can't stand Samsung devices except for my galaxy nexus (still have).
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The Moto X Play seems badass in theory, but it's pretty much just vapor right now. If it is an AT&T exclusive, it will be locked down incredibly tight and there likely won't be much development going on for it. I'm sure it will get rooted, but Motorola's bootloaders are notoriously difficult to crack. If ROMing is your thing, then the Moto X Play probably won't be. I don't know if you've considered the regular Moto X but I would give it an honest shot too. You can pick up the Pure edition which is free of carrier bloat and has an unlockable bootloader essentially making it a 5.2" Nexus phone. It is hands down the nicest feeling Android phone I've ever held in my hands, and its performance is top notch.
As far as the iPhone 6 is concerned, it's a seriously awesome piece of hardware. I always have at least one Android device as well as an iPhone since I love multiple things about both platforms and can honestly say that with the 6, there is less of an itch to pick up my Android phone than ever before. I think Apple knocked it out of the park with this one and can recommend it wholeheartedly. If I was stuck on a deserted island and had to choose either Android or iOS to keep with me I'd still choose Android, but it would be a tougher decision to make and live with now that I have the 6.
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I'm on verizon. Sold my note 3 because I could not stand touchwiz. Bought the moto x it is a fantastic phone but I miss being able to play with phones like my galaxy nexus. Im buying the nexus 6 the instant it is available.

_MetalHead_ said:
The Moto X Play seems badass in theory, but it's pretty much just vapor right now. If it is an AT&T exclusive, it will be locked down incredibly tight and there likely won't be much development going on for it. I'm sure it will get rooted, but Motorola's bootloader safe notoriously difficult to crack.
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Agree with you there. I was hoping for a play edition of the x play.... Maybe it's a unicorn though.
I'll probably preorder the nexus 6 and see how it goes and if the battery isn't good enough and the magical moto comes out with pure android I'll grab that and try it.
Hopefully Motorola will do it like the did with the g and the new x.
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pedxing said:
Agree with you there. I was hoping for a play edition of the x play.... Maybe it's a unicorn though.
I'll probably preorder the nexus 6 and see how it goes and if the battery isn't good enough and the magical moto comes out with pure android I'll grab that and try it.
Hopefully Motorola will do it like the did with the g and the new x.
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If and when it does come out, its software will be as close to stock as you can get without it being an official "pure android" device. Ditching Blur was the smartest thing Motorola did- they went from having the worst software to having the best software overnight. The additional software features that Motorola includes in their phones now actually make stock android better. Active display is the greatest thing in the world since man first discovered that oysters are edible.

Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?

xaznxplaya said:
Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?
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It's not an essential upgrade of course, but this is XDA and usually most people upgrading here aren't doing it because they need to. From the Carphone Warehouse video, the camera is apparently almost as good as the Note 4's in daytime shots and slightly better in lowlight shots. So it should be comparable, if not a bit better, than the S5's. The Nexus 6 will certainly be a great deal bigger, so assess whether or not a big phone is for you (I'd test out an iPhone 6 Plus and a Note 4 and see if you think you can adjust). It's subjective, but I and many others vastly prefer stock Android over TouchWiz and that's always been a reason to buy a Nexus device for me. Take in mind you'll be giving up expandable storage and removable batteries. I'm not sure if that's important to you or not, though.
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Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?
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_MetalHead_ said:
As far as the iPhone 6 is concerned, it's a seriously awesome piece of hardware. I always have at least one Android device as well as an iPhone since I love multiple things about both platforms and can honestly say that with the 6, there is less of an itch to pick up my Android phone than ever before. I think Apple knocked it out of the park with this one and can recommend it wholeheartedly. If I was stuck on a deserted island and had to choose either Android or iOS to keep with me I'd still choose Android, but it would be a tougher decision to make and live with now that I have the 6.
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I'm specifically replying to agree with what you're saying about the iPhone 6. I've been using mine since launch (4.7", 128gb), and I almost hate how much I love it. The last time I tried out an iPhone was with the iPhone 5 and after three weeks I felt like I was being held back in functionality over Android and switched back to my original HTC One, sold the iPhone, and didn't look back. This time, though, I don't see myself doing that. I'm past the honeymoon phase and am still finding very few things to dislike. The screen, the camera, the battery life, the smoothness. It's all on point. I've been annoyed by a lack of customizability a couple times, but my lack of complaints in other areas allow it. This is the first device I've ever had that I don't believe has an Achilles heel. It's almost a shame that it's an iPhone, though. I'm hoping the Nexus 6 will be the Android equivalent.

I was torn between the Nexus 6 and the Xperia Z3, but after actually seeing the N6, that's what I'm going with!
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@gregk232
My opinion
Samsung is pleasing to the eye when it's not randomly rebooting/overheating and the biggest negative is TOUCHWIZ
Everything else other than Samsung is a plus

gregk232 said:
Hey. Here is some info on the Moto X Play FCC filing.
I was under the impression that the Moto X and the Nexus 6 would have the same camera. From what I have seen in the review videos of the Moto X is that the camera is not good at all.
I will check out the sample you sent... should be interesting.
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No the Nexus 6 has a newer/better camera hardware than the Moto X.
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jball said:
@gregk232
My opinion
Samsung is pleasing to the eye when it's not randomly rebooting/overheating and the biggest negative is TOUCHWIZ
Everything else other than Samsung is a plus
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The only thing I like about Touchwiz, is the Messaging App and the Photo Gallery/Editing Options. Everything else is just way over the top.

The debate is pretty simply...do you wish to get an OS update before you sell the device?
If so...then Samsung is right off the list.

zenfone 2 vs oneplus one :D

Lets compare zenfone 2 with one plus one ...
Does zenfone2 oustands oneplus one? ( the 2014 flagship killer)
Or still lags behind the oneplus one which the older 32 bit hardware.

They're both as powerful but ZenFone 2 as ZenUI. And this make the difference for me.
However, if I had to judge the company, OnePlus will be far away ahead of Asus.
Because, let's face it, OnePlus has built an awesome phone wich is still a year later a flagship killer, whereas Asus, for the same price, build a phone that has the same specs and an Intel processor... They failed, and I don't think they will sell as many Zenfone 2 ZE551ML as Oneplus sold OnePlus One

well to each his own haha.. personally i prefer the intel chip for its better web performance.. not to mention the zf2 is cheaper than the OPO
the thing im missing here is the lack of CM and custom roms.. but hopefully its just a matter of time

Neo_N5 said:
They're both as powerful but ZenFone 2 as ZenUI. And this make the difference for me.
However, if I had to judge the company, OnePlus will be far away ahead of Asus.
Because, let's face it, OnePlus has built an awesome phone wich is still a year later a flagship killer, whereas Asus, for the same price, build a phone that has the same specs and an Intel processor... They failed, and I don't think they will sell as many Zenfone 2 ZE551ML as Oneplus sold OnePlus One
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Well asus is a trusted brand and oneplus is new
Asus has a good support here in india just like samsung...
Oneplus has the poorest service in india

I sold my OPO... Very happy with Zf2!

lyeith said:
well to each his own haha.. personally i prefer the intel chip for its better web performance.. not to mention the zf2 is cheaper than the OPO
the thing im missing here is the lack of CM and custom roms.. but hopefully its just a matter of time
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Intel is good and fast and as relaible as qualcomm
The missing thing is core managent .. As all cores are always online .. .
And yess custom roms should not be much away. .
But the doubt arises when we look at the previous models like zf5 or zf6 which do not have a xda forum as well...
I hope there is developmnt ... Bcoz i cant live with zenui all the time ...
I lovee tweaking the romz

aj7400 said:
Intel is good and fast and as relaible as qualcomm
But the doubt arises when we look at the previous models like zf5 or zf6 which do not have a xda forum as well...
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Intel is fine but has a x86 architecture which makes it harder to have custom ROMS. And ZF5 and 6 were not as powerful as the ZenFone 2
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aj7400 said:
Well asus is a trusted brand and oneplus is new
Asus has a good support here in india just like samsung...
Oneplus has the poorest service in india
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Yes of course but first, I really love the Never Settle mind from OnePlus whereas Asus is just a company like others...
And then in France, ZenFone 2 was announced on March 31th, and it was immediately available for sale. However, shipments really started on April 20th and only in Silver and Red. Black and Gold ZF2 have been delayed.
So I bought on April 12th a black ZenFone 2 on the Asus eShop
1) It was written at this time "shipped before May 6th"
2) Asus Shop didn't give me any information. All I got was coming from French Asus CM on Twitter, and very often, his informations were wrong and incomplete
3) Finally, after more than 1 month waiting, on May 18th, they send me an email telling me that they were unable to send me the black ZE551ML and that they will give my money back. The solution they gave me was to buy a new one in Silver and they gave me an indemnification which was a View FlipCover Deluxe that I already have.
4)I asked them for an another indemnification and they told me Sorry not possible. But they could have known it because I ordred the cover at their store.
5) Finally, I ordered the new one on May 20th, on May 21st I received an email to tell me that the Black so the first one was shipped. So what do I do ? Should I cancel my order ? Then I will loose the poor indemnification...
6)For each email that I send them, it need 1-2 working days to get an answer, and their phone number is charged !
So, with all that stuff, I think that I can say that Asus and particularly their eShop is just incompetent, and I think that if I ordered a OnePlus One I would have already received it.
Moreover, my previous phone was a Nexus 5 and Google support was great.

Neo_N5 said:
Intel is fine but has a x86 architecture which makes it harder to have custom ROMS. And ZF5 and 6 were not as powerful as the ZenFone 2
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Yes of course but first, I really love the Never Settle mind from OnePlus whereas Asus is just a company like others...
And then in France, ZenFone 2 was announced on March 31th, and it was immediately available for sale. However, shipments really started on April 20th and only in Silver and Red. Black and Gold ZF2 have been delayed.
So I bought on April 12th a black ZenFone 2 on the Asus eShop
1) It was written at this time "shipped before May 6th"
2) Asus Shop didn't give me any information. All I got was coming from French Asus CM on Twitter, and very often, his informations were wrong and incomplete
3) Finally, after more than 1 month waiting, on May 18th, they send me an email telling me that they were unable to send me the black ZE551ML and that they will give my money back. The solution they gave me was to buy a new one in Silver and they gave me an indemnification which was a View FlipCover Deluxe that I already have.
4)I asked them for an another indemnification and they told me Sorry not possible. But they could have known it because I ordred the cover at their store.
5) Finally, I ordered the new one on May 20th, on May 21st I received an email to tell me that the Black so the first one was shipped. So what do I do ? Should I cancel my order ? Then I will loose the poor indemnification...
6)For each email that I send them, it need 1-2 working days to get an answer, and their phone number is charged !
So, with all that stuff, I think that I can say that Asus and particularly their eShop is just incompetent, and I think that if I ordered a OnePlus One I would have already received it.
Moreover, my previous phone was a Nexus 5 and Google support was great.
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Bro u dont know how bad the service of oneplus one is in india ...
A minor defect needs 3 months at service centre ...
And a broken screen costs more than 70% of amount of oneplus one ..
So i think going with asus is a better option for people in india
And soon i think devs will start developing roms for zf2 and it could do wonders ..
More over samsung in one of its tablets to be released in futured has used a high end. Intel chipset...

aj7400 said:
Bro u dont know how bad the service of oneplus one is in india ...
A minor defect needs 3 months at service centre ...
And a broken screen costs more than 70% of amount of oneplus one ..
So i think going with asus is a better option for people in india
And soon i think devs will start developing roms for zf2 and it could do wonders ..
More over samsung in one of its tablets to be released in futured has used a high end. Intel chipset...
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Indeed I hope that we will receive developpers attention, maybe CM !!! :fingers-crossed:

I would like to add that when the OPO was launched, it was nearly impossible to get one. Just few people managed to get invitations and buy one. And it makes only one month since we can buy it without an invitation.
The Zenfone 2 had some problems to be launched because of the big demand, but all people who pre-ordered it before 10 april (day of the official launch) received it one month after their order. But It was a way easier to get than the OPO.
Moreover i'd like to point out that according to rumors about the OnePlus 2, the Asus Zenfone 2 is quite the same product, because (again according to rumors) the OP2 is the same as the OPO except the processor.
In my opinion, the Zenfone 2 is a way better product than the OnePlus One.

I came from OnePlus... and I don't regret my decision...

OnePlus has the worst customer service department.

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OnePlus has the worst customer service department.
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Yes thats what i mentioned earlier ...
Thats the only thing that stopped me to buy oneplus 2 months back

Neo_N5 said:
They're both as powerful but ZenFone 2 as ZenUI. And this make the difference for me.
However, if I had to judge the company, OnePlus will be far away ahead of Asus.
Because, let's face it, OnePlus has built an awesome phone wich is still a year later a flagship killer, whereas Asus, for the same price, build a phone that has the same specs and an Intel processor... They failed, and I don't think they will sell as many Zenfone 2 ZE551ML as Oneplus sold OnePlus One
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OnePlus was great with marketing and built a powerful phone, but that's it. It took forever for it to actually be available.
Zenfone 2 will smoke OnePlus One in sales. It won't even be close as Asus is available retail internationally and actually have the clout, presence nd wherewithal to supply the demand.
As to custom ROMs etc... These will come. Zenfone 2 is barely out the gate.

Chinaphonearena said:
OnePlus was great with marketing and built a powerful phone, but that's it. It took forever for it to actually be available.
Zenfone 2 will smoke OnePlus One in sales. It won't even be close as Asus is available retail internationally and actually have the clout, presence nd wherewithal to supply the demand.
As to custom ROMs etc... These will come. Zenfone 2 is barely out the gate.
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ASUS announced at the 5/19 that sales were at 10MM. OPO sold about a million as of a few months ago.
I had touchscreen problem with OPO since the day I got the phone and their customer service is beyond horrible so IMO Zf2 is already miles ahead of OnePlus.

I've had both since before either launch... And I can say that honestly it's a matter of preference.
They both perform really well, and they're both great phones.
There's no way to say that one flat-out beats the other. Specs are great and all, but the user experience is different, but can be changed based on which ROM/launcher is used.

Harfainx said:
I've had both since before either launch... And I can say that honestly it's a matter of preference.
They both perform really well, and they're both great phones.
There's no way to say that one flat-out beats the other. Specs are great and all, but the user experience is different, but can be changed based on which ROM/launcher is used.
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As long as you get an OPO without lemon touchscreen, the experience is largely comparable.
Battery life and performance are extremely similar.
OPO Pros:
- capacitive keys light up
- better power button placement
- much better developer support
- better display
- louder speakers
- better brightness range
Zf2 pros:
- DSDA
- cheaper
- Quick charging
- Better accessories
- expandable storage
- extra gig of RAM
- better digitizer
The camera quality is a wash. They're quite similar and OPO technically has the better quality sensor but the overall camera software and experience is probably Zf2.
Performance and hardware... Again, largely a wash. The Zf2 technically has the slightly better and faster hardware and more RAM but in practice I imagine the greater ARM optimization due to familiarity levels things.
The quality of the display is better in the OPO and the brightness range is greater but the digitizer tech on that phone completely blows. Very outdated, one crack renders the whole panel useless.
The OPO dual speaker (but still mono) setup gets appreciably louder than Zf2 but since both speakers face the same direction, a holding hand can muffle the sound somewhat more easily than Zf2 back facing speaker.
The capacitive buttons on OPO light up, which is very useful. And the developer support is the best available on Android outside of Nexus devices.
I'm not sure why but the Zf2 is more comfortable to hold in hand than the OPO. I can easily use both one handed but for some reason the slightly shorter (yet slightly thicker and wider) Zf2 is more comfortable than OPO in hand.
OPO feels slightly more premium to me (faux aluminum band I s'pose). Both lack barometers and wireless charging. Zf2 charges a helluva lot faster.
In practice, I've found the Zf2 a better daily driver simply because it's more reliable from a hardware standpoint (I had so many problems with touch recognition on my OPO and typing was a pain) and its thermal performance is much, much, much better. OPO would heat up and throttle often. Zf2 performs in the summer temp and sun much better, throttling far less.
Unless the software experience of open device like OPO is must have, I would definitely recommend Zf2 over it ten times out of ten.

I have both devices.
Zenfone 2 is nice. Love the screen. 4GB of RAM is alright with me!
64GB of storage is plenty for my needs and the price is right at $299 USD.
So far as far as performance they both seem to be about neck and neck.
Camera in my humble "opinion" seems better on the Zenfone 2.
Custom ROMs/bleeding edge ROMs on the OPO is nice and seems to have a nice amount of development.
ZenUI is just OK to me. Google Now launcher went on my Zenfone 2 right away.
Either phone is a great deal for their respective prices.
Win + Win = Win
Customer service from OnePlus has proven a challenge in the past but seems to be getting better daily.
I really don't think either phone is any better than the other. It really is just a matter of taste. For $50 more for the OPO I wouldn't feel hurt spending that over the Zenfone 2 it is still a great phone and has been my daily driver since last July.
I'm still "test driving" the Zenfone 2 and I am impressed with it so far. Only trivial complaint I have is the Asus software/bloat included. It isn't offensive since the phone is easily rooted and Titanium Backup freezes stuff just fine!
Edit:
Don't believe the hype about 5.5" screen on a 5" frame.... This 5.5" phone is actually a little bit bigger than the OnePlus One although you wouldn't notice it unless holding them side by side

OnePlus One battery life totally wins hands down.. No matter what ROM I use, stock, custom etc. Battery life is fairly weak on the Zenfone 2 considering the size of the battery. Thank god for speedy charging

rlaw said:
Both lack barometers and wireless charging. Zf2 charges a helluva lot faster.
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The Zf2 has NFC but lacks wireless charging?

Is This Phone Still Worth the Buy?

I'm still interested in this phone, but I can't find a whole lot of information on it after early fall.
Anyone that have one still recommend it?
Any major issues to look out for if I purchased one now?
Not interested in rooting or modding. Really like it for the specs and price.
Thanks!

Well, I for one regret buying it. I think OPO was much better phone. My OP2 is slow and often crashes and couple days ago my clock alarm didn't work which why I overslept. Often have to do hard boot to get it work again.
I don't know is it hardware issue, haven't tried rooting and flashing other ROMs yet, but many people has reported the phone being slow.

It is a bit slow using original os, unfortunately. This will probably be alleviated a bit by Marshmallow when it is released. It's unfortunate that this phone isn't just using ordinary cyanogenmod, since using the current builds of cm13 makes this phone really snappy but with a few bugs and missing features as of now.
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I'm currently running my OP+2 with OOS 2.2.0 and Boeffla Kernel. Runs like a charm. Pretty good Battery life (keeps me through the day with 6 - 7 hours SOT), has an amazing camera, fingerprint works pretty good too. Overall performance is great for me. I don't think you can get a Better device for this price.
Most of the problems everyone is talking about are resulting from wrong usage. Main problems i recognized through the Forums are Facebook+its Messenger, bull**** like Greenify and stuff and wrong expectations about a handheld device that isnt build to be a gaming console (with the right Kernel and Settings it can be ).
But if you are not sure about it and dont want to root and tinker around with the device better wait for another device. Here in Germany you can get a Galaxy S6 for the same price when its on sale somewhere. Maybe such a mainstream device is better for you then.
Hope i could help.

yes.

I think OPO is better now because of the official Cyanogen it have , I have experimented a lot of custom ROM's nowdays , for me H2O is better than OOS , but it's for China and it's customers .. Every H2O OS I installed had the same problem with notifications , for example Whatsapp and Facebook messenger notification came in few minutes after the message was sent to me, or they appeared just after I used the applications .. So I don't recommend H2O os at moment , I hope for a major update of OxigenOS , or that the official Cyanogenmod will come soon , after a better ROM this phone will be stunning, better than OPO :good:

I originally wanted to buy the OPO, but it was out of stock so I got the 2 instead.
I love it, it is a huge step up from my Moto G 2014. Love OxygenOS with the Boeffla Kernel only about 5 hours SOT.
I thought the fingerprint reader was going to be gimmicky, almost 99% accurate. Could not fault the phone atm.
In love with the design, get a nice Dbrand.

I think no. If I could by an other phone today, I would go to a LG G4 or a Nexus 6P. Damn, look at OnePlus Company, no sources, Fingerprint / Laser Autofocus drivers no released yet. I really don't understand OnePlus orientation regarding the open source side of Android. I know they will (I REALLY HOPE) release their sources for CM13, but for now, all I see is that we have a ""semi"" CM13 (But don't say what I've don't said, @regalstreak and all others developers have maid a wonderful job). Furthermore, I asked Carl Pei on his twitter why sources are not release yet, well.... no answer. Very nice for an opened company Anyway. Mate, if you still have the choice, go for an other phone.
Even my old LG G2 already has Android 6.0.1.

Still really pleased with mine after 4 months. For the money I don't think you can do much better, personally.

If you're talking about community support I afraid not. But talking about stock rom, I'm satisfied with custom kernel installed, generally smooth experience relying on it's powerful hardware at least. But of course there are quite a number of competitive phones on similar price range like 5x g4 or stylex.
So it depends on your need. I personally take a lot of snapshot(photo I mean) g4 might be better but I'm still pleased with opt.

I have one and I love it, the only real problem I have is with oxygenos, it's pretty buggy and a bit slow. That hopefully will be fixed with software updates. The fingerprint scanner/home button is very responsive and everything works well for me.
In my opinion it is worth it, I would totally recommend it.

benj! said:
Still really pleased with mine after 4 months. For the money I don't think you can do much better, personally.
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In France, LG G4 dropped at 350 Euros, (~381$), and for me, the G4 is far away compared to the OnePlus Two:
-SDCard slot,
-Camera,
-Great specs,
-Great community support... (CM13, fast update from LG)
Yes, the OnePlus Two is a great phone, but not the flasgship killer claimed by OnePlus. But at the end, user is the one who chooses, so.... just my personal opinion!
Oh yeah, @Chopzzay makes me think about it: fingerprint is one of the most funny thing on this phone, it works for randomly: sometimes every time, some times, I have to do it two or three times before it works. Very disappointed about it.

For me I would say it's pretty much the only flagship dual sim card phone, there really was no other choice since I don't want to be dragging two phones with me all the time to be reached both on my private and business number.
But as a single sim user, it's a completely different situation I recon.
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casual_kikoo said:
In France, LG G4 dropped at 350 Euros, (~381$), and for me, the G4 is far away compared to the OnePlus Two:
-SDCard slot,
-Camera,
-Great specs,
-Great community support... (CM13, fast update from LG)
Yes, the OnePlus Two is a great phone, but not the flasgship killer claimed by OnePlus. But at the end, user is the one who chooses, so.... just my personal opinion!
Oh yeah, @Chopzzay makes me think about it: fingerprint is one of the most funny thing on this phone, it works for randomly: sometimes every time, some times, I have to do it two or three times before it works. Very disappointed about it.
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Of course g4 will be better only if you only name the pros.
Screen resolution is debatable, less battery, less performance and working on adreno 418... That's a choice, not a pro, personally i love that Oneplus 2 has a FullHD display and not a QHD, i could bought LG G4, Moto x pure, or whatever 500uds or less. I decided Oneplus 2 and im very happy with my decisión. Thanks god i didnt belive the overheating rumors, they are exagerated, my nexus 5 got hotter.
*was between the same devices. My decisión was LG G4 or Oneplus 2. Moto X it was my third choice.
I choose the op2 because of this:
-Full HD screen : more battery and less GPU demanding
-SoC: 810 vs 808. That means ram lpddr4 vs lpddr3, adreno 418 (qHD) vs adreno 430 (FHD).
About heating, because of the rumors oneplus throttle the devices too fast, if you edited the thermal file with boeffla kernel you could have awesome performance, for more info about throttle pm me.
-Fingerprint scanner. Works perfect, if you know how to scan. You have to scan your finger in every side of it, so it will work perfectly.
-XDA community, not too much for no but it will grow up. Oneplus is contacting devs from XDA, that must be a good thing. Op2 will grow a lot when official marshmallow get released.
-Capacitive buttons, so it does not take space from the screen
-Alert slider is useful, but lg g4 volume buttons are very nice too.
-4gb vs 3gb, its not a real life difference but maybe it will be.
EDIT:- Better battery life. 3300mah vs 3000mah, also fhd vs qhd must make a difference.
About nfc, for almost 2 years i never used it on my nexus 5, so its not a problem for me.*
Hope you can decide for the best, come with us*[emoji6]
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I have an edge plus and use my opt way more then the edge + lol....love this device, don't know why all the hate, Jesus....
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I was really thinking of buying op2 but after seeing so much reviews about heating, more than six months has passed since launch and problem still exist and plus little support for community development from company i doubt i will buy this mobile. I may go for nexus 6p

abhi0502 said:
I was really thinking of buying op2 but after seeing so much reviews about heating, more than six months has passed since launch and problem still exist and plus little support for community development from company i doubt i will buy this mobile. I may go for nexus 6p
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About heating, nexus 6p has the same soc. And this phone doesn't overheat. I use it with modified thermal and it doesn't throttle even after 30m+ of heavy gaming.
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I own a OPT and can't recommend it. It's the worst phone (beside the a Nokia Lumia 520) I've ever used in the last few years.
The hardware is good, the specs are looking great but the software is really crap. and the speaker volume is really really low so I can't hear any calls or messages.

Disappointed in the Rumors So Far

As these leaks start flowing I'm only getting more and more disappointed in this device. Have really been hoping for 1)A very high end device or 2) An affordable device with flasgship-esue specs. Both of these look like they will not be happening.
- Should be getting the 821 at this point. Yes, it's just an OC'd 820 but it's late in the year. 820 is already months old.
- Waterproofing. This should be standard at this point. Not a huge factor but this is now a premium device, it should have all the features.
- OEM Unlock? With Verizon as a partner as well as the XDA article yesterday on root with multiple partitions, looks like this may not be as easy as before.
- Very bland looking. If I'm going to be paying $700+ for a phone, I want to be proud to show off the design. So far it brings nothing to the table.
In short, this is looking like the exact same specs as the HTC 10/S7 with Pure Google software. The hardware on its own doesn't excite.
Redeeming Areas:
- UFS Storage. Would love the speed and wouldn't mind losing an SD card slot for faster read/write speeds.
- Financing. This would soften the blow of a more expensive phone.
- Quick updates. This is a given and the best part of the phone.
- OEM unlocking. Ensure me that this phone will be the best developer device on the market.
Open to other's thoughts.

not with the rumors so far
1. 5.5 inch screen why go small i love N6 size
2. Bezel is too big looks like apple crap phone

I am agree with All your point, it's true that the Google pixel doesn't have a design to proud off with the price range
I don't feel premium and confident for my daily work especially when I am bored and look to my phone trying to admire the engineer of beauty behind this masterpiece
so far, I don't have good feeling with Google Pixel..
it's like, comparing macbook and chromebook..

Pretty sure it's 821
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The pixel phones are ugly. The huge bezel and nav bar will use up like 2cm of space at the bottom. It's clear that they aren't competing with samsung in the design department. Price to performance is also off. The main reason why most people preferred the s7 or note 7 over the oneplus 3 is that it looks better and has a better screen. The only real difference in specs between the pixel (not xl) and the 1+3 is the screen resolution. When we compare the regular pixel phone with the 1+3, it seems to offer even less for the 650$ price tag.
To summarize, why would I buy a big ugly note 7 (the pixel xl) for the same price as the original note 7? Does it make sense to pay $250 more than the 1+3 just to get a pixel phone with stock android?

shah_vm said:
1. 5.5 inch screen why go small i love N6 size
2. Bezel is too big looks like apple crap phone
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Right!
I just don't understand why bezels have gotten larger since the Note 3 from Samsung which had amazingly small top/bottom bezels.
AND... phones seem to be getting heavier instead of lighter.
5.5" vs. 5.7" phones and yet the 5.7" phone is smaller and lighter.

Even the Note 4, Note 5 and Note 7 are all taller & heavier than the Note 3.

Qi wireless charging
I want Qi wireless.
1) it's very convenient
2) I have too many 3-coil tilt chargers just to throw away
3) Google's excuse last year for dropping Qi because they included Type C plug was idiotic. It's not either/or Qi or Type C. You can have BOTH, just like the Samsung Note 7. If I don't want to plug my phone in when I get home, then I don't want to plug my phone in. Again, you can have BOTH Qi and Type C in one device.
My LG Nexus 5 had Qi and my current Moto XT1225 has it.
Yet, Google dropped it and now Lenovo/Motorola also dropped it as a built-in function -- making you buy a silly "mod" in their Moto Z series to get Qi wireless charging. I'm NEVER buying any mods or any phone that requires mods. The LG G5 failed spectacularly and I hope the Moto Z does as well.
I've had my current phone since 2014, and I'll buy next year's Samsung Galaxy Edge 8 or something to get Qi if I have to. Samsung is smart enough to realize people still want Qi wireless charging, even if no other manufacturer seems to have a clue.
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shah_vm said:
not with the rumors so far
1. 5.5 inch screen why go small i love N6 size
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Because 6" was a huge mistake, if Google was just going to release ONE phone. Even 5.7" is too big for a mainstream phone. That's why Samsung has different sizes for their "flagship" Galaxy 7 (5.1", 5.5") and Note 7 (5.7") series. Samsung realizes just because you want a smaller phone, you still want 1440p AMOLED, and fastest CPU/GPU.
In 2014, Google and Motorola had both 5.2", 1440p, 3GB RAM, Snapdragon 805 gen6 Nexus in testing (benchmarks were leaked) as well as the 5.95" -- and Google went with the WHALE. (Motorola said they cautioned against it, as most people don't want a HUGE phone. Google did it anyway.) Google should have released both sizes, the way Apple released two sizes in 2015. Google could have started the trend!
Instead, Motorola released that 5.2" phone as the "Quark". (Moto XT1225, XT1254, XT1250) 5.2", 1440p AMOLED, Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM, 64GB internal memory, Qi wireless, Quick Charge 2.0, 3900 mAh battery, 21MP camera. Kevlar back overlaid with ballistic nylon. It'll stop a bullet for you in a bad neighborhood! :good: I own three Moto XT1225 and run them on AT&T. (LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17) It was basically the 5.2" gen6 Nexus phone Google should have released. Has almost all the specs of the Nexus 6 but a bigger battery: 3900 mAh. Because Google always skimps on Nexus phone batteries.
So in 2015, Google admitted they made a mistake with the too-big Moto Nexus 6 by releasing TWO Nexus phone sizes, 5.7" and 5.2" -- but the smaller one should have had the same specs as the larger one except for display size. Google screwed up again by making the smaller Nexus a "mid-tier" phone. No one wants a mid-tier phone. (My 5.2" Moto XT1225 has 1440p, so screw you Google! I got the gen6 Nexus phone you wouldn't release!) So, in 2015 everyone who wanted a top-tier Nexus phone had to get the 5.7" size. But it's too big for most people. (See Samsung above.)
Now in 2016, Google is downsizing to more mainstream 5.5" for their top tier 1440p phone, as well as a 5.0" 1080p phone. In reality, they should have a 5.2" and 5.7" series (both 1440p!). Or 5.4" and 6" (both 1440p!) No one wants just 5.0" anymore. If it's got slim bezels the smaller one could even be 5.4", and then for the larger you could have a 6" "phablet"
shah_vm said:
2. Bezel is too big looks like apple crap phone
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Agreed. bezels are way too big for no reason. If the bezels are that big there should be front facing STEREO speakers attached. See the excellent ZTE Axon 7.
THIS is the phone Google should be making!
ZTE Axon 7
$400 with free shipping in the U.S.
If gold is too flashy for you also comes in a gray/silver look.
5.5", 1440p AMOLED
Fantastic hi-fidelity stereo audio with front facing speakers
20MP rear camera + OIS
8MP selfie camera
Snapdragon 820
4GB RAM
64GB internal memory + microSD slot (128GB cards available)
(In China, there's also a 6GB RAM/128GB internal memory version. )
It is also among the first devices to support "Daydream" -- Google's mobile virtual reality engine.
And yes, I know Google doesn't do microSD cards. I'm just listing the specs of the Axon 7 and wondering why Google can't do SOMETHING as good for the Pixel XL for around the same price? It even uses the SAME 1440p AMOLED display the Pixel XL will have.
$400 for this phone.

Well I purchased the HTC 10 when it was released in April. I knew that the next Nexus (Pixel) was going to be made by HTC. I remember some of the Build quality issues from HTC and the company losing direction. I did not know what to expect. Well the HTC 10 was the best build quality phones that I have ever owned. The HTC 10 I believe is the best phone on the market today. If the pixels are looking almost identical to the 10. I purchased the HTC 10 with the $100 savings if you purchased directly from HTC. $599.00. I sold my HTC on swappa 2 months ago, knowing that the new Nexus (Pixel) would be coming. If it has the sd 821 I will be happy. I am hoping the $649 is for the 32gb Pixel XL ???? The $$$ for the Pixel seems high. Stay tuned. lol

I am thinking really exactly like you.
If it costs 650$ and has only 6 months old technic I wont buy it for this price. This is just overpayed...

ChazzMatt said:
Agreed. bezels are way too big for no reason. If the bezels are that big there should be front facing STEREO speakers attached. See the excellent ZTE Axon 7.
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I've heard mixed things on the Axon 7. Seems like people either love it or hate it. Worst issues I've heard are signal strength and OS issues. Still waiting on this phone to see if things improve because I'll probably get it if CM support gets better.

chazall1 said:
Well I purchased the HTC 10 when it was released in April. I knew that the next Nexus (Pixel) was going to be made by HTC. I remember some of the Build quality issues from HTC and the company losing direction. I did not know what to expect. Well the HTC 10 was the best build quality phones that I have ever owned. The HTC 10 I believe is the best phone on the market today. If the pixels are looking almost identical to the 10. I purchased the HTC 10 with the $100 savings if you purchased directly from HTC. $599.00. I sold my HTC on swappa 2 months ago, knowing that the new Nexus (Pixel) would be coming. If it has the sd 821 I will be happy. I am hoping the $649 is for the 32gb Pixel XL ???? The $$$ for the Pixel seems high. Stay tuned. lol
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Yup, I bought my HTC 10 through Verizon for a relative bargain at $550. However, the LCD (Polarization to be exact) display is what's been turning me off to it coupled with constant software bugs. I continually have to reboot my phone when it gets too taxed with Android Auto...
However, I may just bite the bullet and bootloader unlock it and slap CM on it when it gets stable for my "pure Google" experience.
I'm sure these will be good devices but as you guys mentioned....the price just doesn't quantify the "premium" aspects.

ChazzMatt said:
Agreed. bezels are way too big for no reason. If the bezels are that big there should be front facing STEREO speakers attached. See the excellent ZTE Axon 7.
THIS is the phone Google should be making!
ZTE Axon 7
$400 with free shipping in the U.S.
If gold is too flashy for you also comes in a gray/silver look.
5.5", 1440p AMOLED
Fantastic hi-fidelity stereo audio with front facing speakers
20MP rear camera + OIS
8MP selfie camera
Snapdragon 820
4GB RAM
64GB internal memory + microSD slot (128GB cards available)
(In China, there's also a 6GB RAM/128GB internal memory version. )
It is also among the first devices to support "Daydream" -- Google's mobile virtual reality engine.
And yes, I know Google doesn't do microSD cards. I'm just listing the specs of the Axon 7 and wondering why Google can't do SOMETHING as good for the Pixel XL for around the same price? It even uses the SAME 1440p AMOLED display the Pixel XL will have.
$400 for this phone.
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Vitamin_D said:
I've heard mixed things on the Axon 7. Seems like people either love it or hate it. Worst issues I've heard are signal strength and OS issues. Still waiting on this phone to see if things improve because I'll probably get it if CM support gets better.
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What people have had mixed reviews about is the SOFTWARE, not the hardware. For instance, the EU version has softer audio output than the crisp, clear U.S. version. Yet, this phone has already won awards for its audio.
Who cares about ZTE's OS when Google has their own?
What I am pointing out is the HARDWARE SPECS and the PRICE. This is the type of hardware and price Google should be releasing with their version of Android. Look at those bezels! THIS is what the Pixel XL should be! :good:
Google could buy this from ZTE for $400 -- slap their own software on -- and sell it for $450! I bet ZTE would even give Google a discount for bulk purchase -- like a million devices.

Yes, I totally agree with this. I mean, why shall I pay that much amount of money for something, whose specifications are nearly the same (or even worse) than a smartphone, which got released earlier this year, (S7 and S7 Edge 3/11/16).
I am really hoping for Qualcomm's S821 and a decent quantity of battery. A bad camera or quiet speakers would be a big no-go from my standpoint.
However, I am just agonising my head for random rumours. The 4th will tell me, if it is really worth buying it.

NUTS
What is with these vendors trying to shut down root all together? There is no logical reason to do so, I can't recall who but one provider claimed that rooted phones could jeopradize their entire network, are you serious?? what non-sense.
I was really under the Impression that Google was somewhat pro root, now this, a phone that sounds like it will be nearly impossible to root, or if root is achieved, a process (number of steps involved) that would send even a veteran rooter into a very nervous state of mind fearing a brick at the end of the root attempt.
There are some amazing developers on this site and in all likelyhood root will probably be achieved, but this whole us verses them were in now between developers and Manufacturer's will most likely never end. And it's all completely pointless as a rooted phone could never harm a vendors system.

Finance doesn't really make up for a big increase in the price. There has to be something hidden we haven't seen yet. google can't stand on stage and say "here is our new flagship phone, with the same price and features as a Samsung S7 but 6 months later, with the biggest bezels you will see this year"

pjd2011 said:
As these leaks start flowing I'm only getting more and more disappointed in this device. Have really been hoping for 1)A very high end device or 2) An affordable device with flasgship-esue specs. Both of these look like they will not be happening.
- Should be getting the 821 at this point. Yes, it's just an OC'd 820 but it's late in the year. 820 is already months old.
- Waterproofing. This should be standard at this point. Not a huge factor but this is now a premium device, it should have all the features.
- OEM Unlock? With Verizon as a partner as well as the XDA article yesterday on root with multiple partitions, looks like this may not be as easy as before.
- Very bland looking. If I'm going to be paying $700+ for a phone, I want to be proud to show off the design. So far it brings nothing to the table.
In short, this is looking like the exact same specs as the HTC 10/S7 with Pure Google software. The hardware on its own doesn't excite.
Redeeming Areas:
- UFS Storage. Would love the speed and wouldn't mind losing an SD card slot for faster read/write speeds.
- Financing. This would soften the blow of a more expensive phone.
- Quick updates. This is a given and the best part of the phone.
- OEM unlocking. Ensure me that this phone will be the best developer device on the market.
Open to other's thoughts.
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It will suck. Already looks like poop. Going to be WAY too expensive, no stereo speakers, no microSD. What's the point? Axon 7 is superior except for the lack of roms. If that was solved it would be the killer of 2016
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USMC retired said:
What is with these vendors trying to shut down root all together? There is no logical reason to do so, I can't recall who but one provider claimed that rooted phones could jeopradize their entire network, are you serious?? what non-sense.
I was really under the Impression that Google was somewhat pro root, now this, a phone that sounds like it will be nearly impossible to root, or if root is achieved, a process (number of steps involved) that would send even a veteran rooter into a very nervous state of mind fearing a brick at the end of the root attempt.
There are some amazing developers on this site and in all likelyhood root will probably be achieved, but this whole us verses them were in now between developers and Manufacturer's will most likely never end. And it's all completely pointless as a rooted phone could never harm a vendors system.
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Because you are NOT allowed to do what you want. What is wrong with you?
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Vitamin_D said:
I've heard mixed things on the Axon 7. Seems like people either love it or hate it. Worst issues I've heard are signal strength and OS issues. Still waiting on this phone to see if things improve because I'll probably get it if CM support gets better.
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Agreed, hardware is a dream come true. Just wish it had a removeable battery and an IPS display at 1080p. Hopefully CM/Rom support will develop more and the device will become better.

Locklear308 said:
It will suck. Already looks like poop. Going to be WAY too expensive, no stereo speakers, no microSD. What's the point? Axon 7 is superior except for the lack of roms. If that was solved it would be the killer of 2016
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Because you are NOT allowed to do what you want. What is wrong with you?
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Agreed, hardware is a dream come true. Just wish it had a removeable battery and an IPS display at 1080p. Hopefully CM/Rom support will develop more and the device will become better.
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True, I guess I'm getting selfish for wanting to shell out around $650.00 and have only Google control it, I really do need to have my head examined

What the Hell going to buy the XL. Its only money. Going to have much more dev then ZTE. It should be a goog phone. Have another beer and get ready to place it in your cart and press pay. lol

Locklear308 said:
Agreed, (ZTE AXON 7) hardware is a dream come true. Just wish it had a removeable battery and an IPS display at 1080p. Hopefully CM/Rom support will develop more and the device will become better.
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No, we have too many 5.5" 1080p slabs. Need more 1440p AMOLED, PLEASE.