Ok you know how people compare screens. Resolutions and legibility. Especifically when comparing screens, they say they can hardly tell the difference. One comparison pits the G4 against the Nexus 6. Well I have both and can tell you that perhaps inside the screens are similar enough. But dude! Outside I have to shade the Nexus 6 and just about every phone or tablet (except the Notion Adam with pixel qi screen) and still cant hardly read the screen. The G4 on the other hand is almost amazing how freaking clearly you can read and see stuff. And it doesn't have to wash out the colors (much YMMV that sun!)..
What's your experiences been?
I agree. Have the N5, N6, & S6. The G4 is the best in the sun edging out the S6. The N5 would be next and in a very distant last is the N6. I love my Nexus's but the N6 outdoor legibility is abysmal.
I still prefer my G2 screen in the direct sun. barely had an issue, never knew using a phone in direct sunlight could be a problem until i used the G4... maybe I'm still nostalgic of leaving my old phone go?
why can't i just have my old G2 battery from jelly bean with a new cameras and stock android ?
I've read complaints about the G4's screen in direct sunlight. I think it's superb!
I owed both S6 and G4 and I think he S6 is far more superior in direct sunlight then the G4.
S6 gets brighter then the G4 point blank. S6 gets up to 700 nits while the G4 struggles at 460.
Anyone who says G4 is brighter than the S6 in direct sunlight its straight up lying or actually never had a S6
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shook187 said:
I owed both S6 and G4 and I think he S6 is far more superior in direct sunlight then the G4.
S6 gets brighter then the G4 point blank. S6 gets up to 700 nits while the G4 struggles at 460.
Anyone who says G4 is brighter than the S6 in direct sunlight its straight up lying or actually never had a S6
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Same here. I even picked up another G4 the other day and went back to my S6 for the last time (got a great deal on another). The S6 screen is far better in direct sunlight and in the dark.
I have no reading issues. I'm happy.
My only comparison point is the M7, which was a complete wash for me.
I've had all the major flagship and the best in direct sunlight are the s6 edge and the g4. But the g4 struggles while the s6 doesn't
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I've had all the major flagship and the best in direct sunlight are the s6 edge and the g4. But the g4 struggles while the s6 doesn't
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Yeah I came from the S6 and what I've seenin earlier reviews are "G4 isn't that great in direct sun...yet there's plenty of good reports on it right here. As for the S6, i think it performed superbly in direct sun when adjusted.
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I've had all the major flagship and the best in direct sunlight are the s6 edge and the g4. But the g4 struggles while the s6 doesn't
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Ever tried a 808 ?
Just back from sunny Spain and I thought the G4 was excellent outside. Thing is though, I possibly shouldn't have been using it drunk while around the pool as it slipped onto the tiles and chipped a corner a little lol. Still worked perfectly though after it and I continued my drunken antics
I was at the beach on sunday and i had no problem with it in the sun. I do have a skinomi glass protector that is polarized on it so it may help with that some. I kept it on 90% brightness when using so it would not get to hot
Yes it very well for direct sunlight, the g4, but it's so annoying when it gets all gray and faded out colors when in direct sunlight
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At the moment, I have both devices. Having used the S7 Edge since the release, yesterday I switched to the S7. In shifting back to the S7 Edge just now, I noticed the two device's displays are quite different.
The S7 clearly has more saturated colors and looks far brighter. The S7 Edge, in comparison, looks slightly more dull when side by side.
For reference, I tested both devices in the same conditions. That is to say the S7 and S7 Edge with automatic brightness disabled and pushed up to maximum manual brightness. Also I tested both in a darker room. For reference both were set to AMOLED Cinema.
Unfortunately even when the automatic brightness is turned back on, it's clear the S7 still looks more vibrant.
Can anyone explain what's going on here? Is it simply that the Edge looks like it has a lesser screen because of the larger size and thereby lower pixel density. Or is it something about the panels themselves and thus the S7 that I have now just happened to get a better panel than the Edge.
Any thoughts or answers would be appreciated.
Displaymate tested them and stated that they are practically identical in terms of performance: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm. Any chance you can test out against another Edge?
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Displaymate tested them and stated that they are practically identical in terms of performance: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm. Any chance you can test out against another Edge?
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Actually no, unfortunately. Neither device has been released in Japan yet. Both of the ones I have are imported.
The thing is lot more complicated...
Each S7 Edge has different display quality! When you put 2 S7 Edge Side by Side and compare, you will see that the displays have different tint (mostly yellow), and more worse: a lot of the displays are not homogeneous. that means that one corner or side is brighter then the rest of the display.
i wrote a few threads regarding this, i also sent a message to displaymate (because they test "cherry-picked" devices, and do not mention this), see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
basically i do think that the s7 screen is better, due to the Edge screen is P-AMOLED to be flexible! but the differences between otherwise identical devices are really huge!
i ordered my 5th device today, because all of them had flaws:
1st: display not good compared to second device
2nd: the device i use now. very good viewing angles and no tint, BUT: left side of display is darker then right side
3rd: display strong yellow tint
4th: display almost good, slight yellow tint. would take this, BUT: front cam takes blurry pictures compared to other devices...
5th: ordered today!
you may think i'm a hypocrite or have OCD, but it makes me mad that a 800EUR device has such flaws!!!
The s7 has more PPI due to smaller screen than edge
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i ordered my 5th device today, because all of them had flaws:
1st: display not good compared to second device
2nd: the device i use now. very good viewing angles and no tint, BUT: left side of display is darker then right side
3rd: display strong yellow tint
4th: display almost good, slight yellow tint. would take this, BUT: front cam takes blurry pictures compared to other devices...
5th: ordered today!
you may think i'm a hypocrite or have OCD, but it makes me mad that a 800EUR device has such flaws!!!
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Or, you know, maybe you're looking for a flaw that's not there? It's a well known fact by now that a bend in a display, like the Edge, will have some shifts in brightness, tint and contrast, especially right in that bend! If this is something that annoys you, then I'd recommend you stick with flat panels from now on, because this won't be "fixed" for awhile. It's just the way it is.
Also, you do not have OCD.
"Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) is a common, chronic and long-lasting disorder in which a person has uncontrollable, reoccurring thoughts (obsessions) and behaviors (compulsions) that he or she feels the urge to repeat over and over."
If you turn the screen on and off 30 times before you can make a call, you have OCD. If you have to knock your door five times each time you come home, you have OCD. If you think the smartphone's screen is the wrong hue, that's not OCD, that's just being picky.
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The thing is lot more complicated...
Each S7 Edge has different display quality! When you put 2 S7 Edge Side by Side and compare, you will see that the displays have different tint (mostly yellow), and more worse: a lot of the displays are not homogeneous. that means that one corner or side is brighter then the rest of the display.
i wrote a few threads regarding this, i also sent a message to displaymate (because they test "cherry-picked" devices, and do not mention this), see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
basically i do think that the s7 screen is better, due to the Edge screen is P-AMOLED to be flexible! but the differences between otherwise identical devices are really huge!
i ordered my 5th device today, because all of them had flaws:
1st: display not good compared to second device
2nd: the device i use now. very good viewing angles and no tint, BUT: left side of display is darker then right side
3rd: display strong yellow tint
4th: display almost good, slight yellow tint. would take this, BUT: front cam takes blurry pictures compared to other devices...
5th: ordered today!
you may think i'm a hypocrite or have OCD, but it makes me mad that a 800EUR device has such flaws!!!
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I think you're being a tad bit OCD. At the end of the day, the S7 might have a slightly better display than the S7E but the screen size and battery size make the S7E better for me personally. If you're looking for a slightly better looking display then maybe you'd be happier with the S7.
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Or, you know, maybe you're looking for a flaw that's not there? It's a well known fact by now that a bend in a display, like the Edge, will have some shifts in brightness, tint and contrast, especially right in that bend! If this is something that annoys you, then I'd recommend you stick with flat panels from now on, because this won't be "fixed" for awhile. It's just the way it is.
Also, you do not have OCD.
"Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) is a common, chronic and long-lasting disorder in which a person has uncontrollable, reoccurring thoughts (obsessions) and behaviors (compulsions) that he or she feels the urge to repeat over and over."
If you turn the screen on and off 30 times before you can make a call, you have OCD. If you have to knock your door five times each time you come home, you have OCD. If you think the smartphone's screen is the wrong hue, that's not OCD, that's just being picky.
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Thx for the medical and display-tech lecture, I'm a university lecturer (engineering and physics) myself!
1) Display quality: You did not read my post, or my linked thread regarding note4! The display of note4 was not curved, and had the same problems as all of samsungs amoled devices before: When you compare 10 devices side by side, you will see that each and every device has different screen tone, uniformity, ... About 2 out of 10 I would consider "good", all other have flaws such as a not uniform brightness distribution (one side of the screen is darker then the other side), or bad viewing angles.
this is NOT a problem which every device has, as I always found one device in the past which was "OK" after exchanging a few times.
same happened last week and today: last week i got a device with a really nice screen, but the front cam took blurry pictures compared to the other S7E devices I have in front of me. this can be easily reproduced, so the cam or lens has a problem the other devices do not have.
the device i got today has the best screen so far (good and even white distribution, good viewing angles), the front cam is ok (a bit less sharp pictures then my reference device, but WAY sharper as from the last weeks device), but there is a scuff on the top metal frame of the display, between the glass and the metal. this is no dust particle, it is a real scuff. :| i will test the rear-cam as well, if it is ok i will stay with this device, as the scuff is not nice, but a minor issue compared to the display faults of the other devices.
also, i showed the different displays of all my S7E devices to friends and colleagues (because they thought i'm crazy because of my exchanges), and all of them see the display faults as well. you need to have devices for comparison, then you will notice how bad some screens are compared to others!
so no need to go for an other device as the S7E, because there ARE good ones existing. but you have to be lucky to get one...
on the OCD: this was half ironic, because i know that OCD really is.
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Thx for the medical and display-tech lecture, I'm a university lecturer (engineering and physics) myself! .
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I did.... not read that Note 4 thread, and I did (clearly not) understand what you said (blame the beers I had), but alright, I do understand what you're saying now, and yeah, there is a slight difference in each panel, and some will get a slightly better panel than the other one. That happens with every screen out there, including LCDs, and viewing angles are also something that gets affected, but I have the impression that this is more of an issue with LCDs.
I would keep swapping it until I got a good panel, so keep doing what you're doing until you get tired or hit the jackpot. The screen is rated as the best smartphone screen ever, so I promise you it should look amazing. The issues you're experiencing is very common though, and must be somewhat expected when we are early adopters. These are typical issues that Samsung will weed out with time.
I saw a strange think on S7E: the 2 sides of the screen have grey shadow area if you looking at it in a dark room with low brightness of course...is that normal?
My is perfect :sly:
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My is perfect :sly:
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I saw other phones and talked to other S7E owners, and they see this grey halo too, when the brightness is low and the environment really dark. Do you think that it is a problem of my screen?
I've just got a G4 (standard not Plus) and booted for the first time, and I'm surprised to see the screen has a noticeably more yellow cast and lower brightness than that of the even more budget Vodafone Smart Ultra 6 I'm upgrading from. All display settings checked and unchecked Etc. so that's not the issue.
Anyone else able to do the same comparison or comment on their screens? Just wondering if this is normal or if I've got a lemon. I know screens can vary, but whites have a distinct yellow cast on this display so trying to work out if it's worth returning or not?
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I haven't noticed on the one I just got. I came from a Note 4. Compared to that screen, it's pretty damn good and quite a surprise.
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Yep weirdly maybe I jumped the gun a bit. Compared to the Voda Smart Ultra 6 it looked really yellow, but after looking at it on its own a while later I thought 'well it is warm, but the whites do actually look white I suppose'. So then compared it to my S6 Edge thinking I'd really see a difference... well the G4 is 'whiter' than the S6 Edge lol.
Shows you how screwed up things get when you compare, in isolation I wouldn't have noticed. The Smart Ultra 6 just has a really 'white is white and very bright' screen, if one that's not quite as crisp as the G4.
So due to some problems with the quality (bootloop, severe ghosting, etc.) I got refunded,
now the thing is I really loved this phone, the camera was amazing, the screen was crisp and the device looked and felt premium.
What I am most worried about is I don't seem to see a phablet that definitely is an upgrade in terms of camera quality.
The Note 7 first scratches and then explodes, the iPhone 7 Plus 128gb costs 1009 Euro in Europe and besides those two I don't really know any 5,5 inch or bigger that definitely beat the G4 in cam quality
Any suggestions? Anyone upgraded from the G4? If yes, to what? How does the cam compare?
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So due to some problems with the quality (bootloop, severe ghosting, etc.) I got refunded,
now the thing is I really loved this phone, the camera was amazing, the screen was crisp and the device looked and felt premium.
What I am most worried about is I don't seem to see a phablet that definitely is an upgrade in terms of camera quality.
The Note 7 first scratches and then explodes, the iPhone 7 Plus 128gb costs 1009 Euro in Europe and besides those two I don't really know any 5,5 inch or bigger that definitely beat the G4 in cam quality
Any suggestions? Anyone upgraded from the G4? If yes, to what? How does the cam compare?
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G5 seems to tick all the boxes on your check list.
-Great Camera
-Great Screen
-Metallic,slim and premium
Though a number of short coming too. Actually I read that LG were pretty disappointed with the sales they have so far registered.
Personally would go for Nexus 6p or wait for LG V20
I'd recommend Oneplus 3. Had it for a day now and don't think I'll use my G4 anymore.
Bought my 1+3 it at the same time as I sent my G4 to warranty repair, it was rooted and bootloader unlocked etc.
Still got it repaired for free. (replaced motherboard) But no G4 for me anymore, guess I'll keep it as a spare.
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I'd recommend Oneplus 3. Had it for a day now and don't think I'll use my G4 anymore.
Bought my 1+3 it at the same time as I sent my G4 to warranty repair, it was rooted and bootloader unlocked etc.
Still got it repaired for free. (replaced motherboard) But no G4 for me anymore, guess I'll keep it as a spare.
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How is the camera performance compared to the G4
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How is the camera performance compared to the G4
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Haven't had the time to try too much, but the few shots I have taken on auto settings, look great. It has a manual mode too, but it hasn't got so many settings as the G4.
I will try to switch to sammy, after doing the g2/g3/g4. Sever ghosting and poor battery....S7 edge has it all, great battery, great camera, beautiful design, water and dust proof....
What about the Axon 7?
Get the samsung galaxy note 4 i know its old but has qhd and removable battery and sd card and has a lot of roms
Note 7 has a nice overall size... Overpriced iphone territory , but with the rep it is currently getting, a price drop will be right around the corner since fire hazard doesn't scream flagship lol
I d prefer S6 EDGE.
xiaomi 3s 4000mah battery and im ok...
I think the V20 would be a very good replacement for the G4.
Very good hardware and specs for the price you have to pay.
Thanks for the suggestions guys, V20 is not available in my country yet and I don't know if it will be but it is interesting. Note 7 seems to not be liked at airlines so I would avoid that. I am thinking about the Oneplus 3.
What worries me the most is that I wouldnt really like a downgrade in the camera department. G4 made great shots even when it was a bit dark!
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Thanks for the suggestions guys, V20 is not available in my country yet and I don't know if it will be but it is interesting. Note 7 seems to not be liked at airlines so I would avoid that. I am thinking about the Oneplus 3.
What worries me the most is that I wouldnt really like a downgrade in the camera department. G4 made great shots even when it was a bit dark!
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One plus three takes good shots overall. In my opinion the camera was the weakest point of the 1+3. Software and XDA support is amazing. And the price point is almost unbeatable for the specs you receive.
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I had G4 H815. Than the radio died and I've sent it for repair. It took them about two months to repair it. In the meantime I was looking for a replacement. The OnePlus 3 was the first thought, but the camera shots are nowhere near G4 in my opinion. It had AMOLED screen which bleeds my eyes with saturation . Samsung also uses their AMOLED screens which I don't like at all, but the camera is comparable. Nexus 6P is also amazing phone, maybe the best replacement for G4 regarding camera and premium feel. Also other Huawei flagship phones.
I ended up returning to my beloved G4 as nothing compares to leather, 5.5" IPS screen and great camera.
I'm waiting for a Pixel, but I'm a bit concerned that it would be with AMOLED screen also
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I will try to switch to sammy, after doing the g2/g3/g4. Sever ghosting and poor battery....S7 edge has it all, great battery, great camera, beautiful design, water and dust proof....
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Well I did switch to s7 edge. Build quality is from another world (tho I bought spigen case, just as for all the lg series I owned) screen is something you need to experience yourself. And it's the first phone I dont feel the need to root! Yesterday with 3hrs20min Sot I still had battery left 40%! You can't beat that, actually you can't beat any of the sammy features! G4 photos still look better but the autofocus of s7 is a unbelievable fast! I feelt in love with lg2 back then after owning s4 and they ruined it! Such a shame
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One plus three takes good shots overall. In my opinion the camera was the weakest point of the 1+3.
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Exactly, in good light the +3 camera is competitive with the best out there but once light starts to get low, the +3 won't compete with the G4.The 6P is better than the +3 camera. But i still give the edge to the G4 over the 6P.
This isn't surprising when its built to such a tight budget. +3 is for people that are not too serious about camera. About price, performance. 3rd party support.
Oh and there is no microsd on the +3 either.
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What worries me the most is that I wouldnt really like a downgrade in the camera department. G4 made great shots even when it was a bit dark!
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6P is the closest you can get. But you can't take too many shots one after the other. If you can consider the 6P then i don't see why the s7e or s7 cannot be an options .better cameras than the 6P. Te downside is because they use 12MP 4:3 sensor for some strange reason, if you want 16:9 aspect your resolution drops to 9MP. That will lose in some cases to native 16:9 16MP on the LG's.
The edge variant has the option for clip on lenses. The advantage here is you get wide angle or 2x zoom AND retain OIS with the f1.7 aperture. Something neither LG nor apple can do with their secondary cameras but then you don't have to carry extra lenses.
If i was in your shoes and maybe i will be one day, my options are another G4 for less than i paid the first time (such a unique phone in so many ways) or the G6. There will never be another phone like the G4, tapering edges, slight curve, good feel in the hand, leather etc.
The G6 i expect will get the sensor upgrade. G4, V10, G5, V20, g flex 3? all use the same sensor. The software has improved but the sensor remains the same. This is how LG does things. It was the same with G2 up to G flex 2.
I've watched a V20, G5, Note 7, S7 Edge display comparison video and in that video the author claimed that V20 has very cold color temperature (whites are more like blueish) and the color correction is not so good (colors are displayed somewhat incorrectly?). My question is, as a user have you seen anything like these claims?
From those videos and using the v10 and G4. Yes. But it's something you kind of have to look for it. If you are getting the v20. Just enjoy it.
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And don't forget, every "review" you've seen so far has been with pre-production units that use software that hasn't been finalized.
i have an LG V20 color correction i cant tell other than it looks better than my note 3. whites is a close to white maybe a slightly cold but now where near to blueish. has an option if you want it more warm so it wont strain your eyes, you can tell its more warm when you enable it. so far i like it.
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And don't forget, every "review" you've seen so far has been with pre-production units that use software that hasn't been finalized.
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It is on the Blue side for sure when comparing it directly to my Note5. In a direct side by side comparison it is really Blue but as long as you don't have it side by side, you get used to it very quickly. I actually like it better when not using the (Comfort View) Blue light filter.
its not as vibrant as a amoled, its more of a cool CLEAN representation.
whites are better than an amoled screen, but amoled (especially samsung), the blacks are superior
personal taste.
the whole replaceable battery, non exploding....makes up for it though
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It's on the colder side. Also the extreme contrast on the Samsung AMOLED would make theirs a more eye popping display. With that said, if you use only look at LG's phones for a day or two, you'll get used to it and it's actually a very good display. I like Samsung's display personally, especially the latest iteration of them where the colours are more accurate, but I can live with LG's IPS no issues.
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its not as vibrant as a amoled, its more of a cool CLEAN representation.
whites are better than an amoled screen, but amoled (especially samsung), the blacks are superior
personal taste.
the whole replaceable battery, non exploding....makes up for it though
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How do you know.... The note 7 didn't report exploding for a few days after official release. I highly doubt there will be an issue but Samsung wasn't the only phone this year.
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hello. for that users that are trying lg g6, can anyone post experience for always on display under sunlight? is it very poor like in lg g5? g5 indoor looks well but underdoor is invisible!!!!! please confirm? thanks
Light works well. At night it's worthless. If you have had a S7 it's not even comparable. OLED is the clear winner with AOD and it's not even close.
The LG G6 AOD is much better than the G5. Have nothing else to compare it to. I can read it in direct light, but in Texas sun it's darn near impossible to see any phone screen out there in 100% bright sunlight.
It also has a battery save option that you can disable and it very bright. I
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