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Hi guys, I flashed a jamal's 4.3 rom coming from omega's google edition rom and i did the usual stuff like I always have factory reset etc.. and i reboot the system and fix permissions as usual and my phone is now stuck on the omega's spinning boot up animation with the phone vibrating.
HELP!!!

Re-download the rom, could be a bad download. Did you check the md5sum?

jd1639 said:
Re-download the rom, could be a bad download. Did you check the md5sum?
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what's a md5sum? :L i can't since my phone doesn't show up on my computer

sbouzyk said:
what's a md5sum? :L i can't since my phone doesn't show up on my computer
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It's a long alpha-numeric number that is associated with the file. Next time you download a rom look for it on the download page. When you down load a file the md5sum should match the original indicating a good download. There are apps that check the md5 and most file managers will show it in properties

ok, but how do i get out of the bootloop

sbouzyk said:
ok, but how do i get out of the bootloop
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If you've done the factory reset and that doesn't get you out I'm guessing the rom you flashed was a bad download. You made a nandroid backup before you flashed the rom, right. Boot back into recovery and restore it. Then re download the rom and try it again

jd1639 said:
If you've done the factory reset and that doesn't get you out I'm guessing the rom you flashed was a bad download. You made a nandroid backup before you flashed the rom, right. Boot back into recovery and restore it. Then re download the rom and try it again
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i didn't make a nandroid backup...

sbouzyk said:
i didn't make a nandroid backup...
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Live and learn, I was afraid of that. You're probably going to have to use Odin then which will return you back to stock. And then start everything over again. Have you let the boot loop go for like 5 minutes. Sometimes it can take that long on first boot, but the vibration isn't normal.

jd1639 said:
Live and learn, I was afraid of that. You're probably going to have to use Odin then which will return you back to stock. And then start everything over again. Have you let the boot loop go for like 5 minutes. Sometimes it can take that long on first boot, but the vibration isn't normal.
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the thing is though, i have flash this download of the rom before, and it was fine. i just got bored of it and downloaded another rom. i then decided to go back to the rom again.

sbouzyk said:
the thing is though, i have flash this download of the rom before, and it was fine. i just got bored of it and downloaded another rom. i then decided to go back to the rom again.
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Try flashing it again then. Do all the wipes first then flash it and then flash gapps. Did you flash the gapps package? I'm not sure what rom you're trying to flash but it probably requires gapps too.

jd1639 said:
Try flashing it again then. Do all the wipes first then flash it and then flash gapps. Did you flash the gapps package? I'm not sure what rom you're trying to flash but it probably requires gapps too.
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gapps isn't on my phone so i cant flash it. i've flash it about ten times now and it won't work. it must be a bad download even though i flashed it before. after i flash the rom, it shows the boot animation of the rom i had been using before. werid huh? the only option i have now is to buy a micro sd card and put the rom on that and flash it that way. i really don't want to use odin.

sbouzyk said:
gapps isn't on my phone so i cant flash it. i've flash it about ten times now and it won't work. it must be a bad download even though i flashed it before. after i flash the rom, it shows the boot animation of the rom i had been using before. werid huh? the only option i have now is to buy a micro sd card and put the rom on that and flash it that way. i really don't want to use odin.
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The sd card is a good idea. You're going to want one anyway.

jd1639 said:
The sd card is a good idea. You're going to want one anyway.
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thanks for all your help mate. guess I'm going to be a LOT more careful in the future. now im phoneless anyway cheers for the help

sbouzyk said:
thanks for all your help mate. guess I'm going to be a LOT more careful in the future. now im phoneless anyway cheers for the help
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Np

sbouzyk said:
thanks for all your help mate. guess I'm going to be a LOT more careful in the future. now im phoneless anyway cheers for the help
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You're just going to give up? Seriously? It's really easy to flash stock fw with Odin. And also easy to root afterwards, to each their own.

norml said:
You're just going to give up? Seriously? It's really easy to flash stock fw with Odin. And also easy to root afterwards, to each their own.
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What do you mean giving up? I'm going to wait until my microSD card comes and then I will transfer the zip file that way. I don't have time to fiddle with odin. Besides I don't even have a pc, i have bootcamp, which takes a year to boot.

[Q] Galaxy s4 Rooted and Custom Rom Problems

I have a Canadian S4 and rooted using the twrp method and then installed the vigin google play edition rom. Everything worked fine at first when I installed it but i was fiddling around after in twrp and thought i should format the internal storage and start completely fresh and now if I install any rom including my original backup the device will boot up into the system fine for the first time but if the device resets after that it just hangs on the galaxy S4 logo and i have to reboot into recovery and flash again. Any ideas on how i could fix this? Thanks!!!

Try this, in twrp go into advanced wipe and wipe dalvik cache, cache, system, data and android secure. Then flash your nandroid.

I don't have a nandroid I have a twrp backup

Jaygrippa said:
I don't have a nandroid I have a twrp backup
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That is a nandroid.

Dont use TWRP for the S4
From what I have experience and I believe others have as well, if you used TWRP to format where you had to type yes, you are pretty much screwed trying to get things working properly again. Maybe it is certain phones, sd cards, roms, who knows, but after I typed yes in TWRP to format everything, I could flash a rom but couldnt restart and things were buggy. I had to use odin to flash back to stock, re-root and flash the rom again. Now everything is 190% considering my battery life went from 6 hours to 28 with medium usage.
I have always loved TWRP on my other phones, but for the S4, its more frustration and using with caution than its worth.
Another word of caution, use windows to fix your phone. Im on linux and its too much of a pain in the ass to use odin/heimdall to go back to stock for newbs. On windows I went to stock and rooted again in no time.
Good luck!

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After doing that stuff in twrp should I flash right back to my backup of stock touch wiz or straight into the ROM of my choosing? Whenever I would have to reflash I would have to format he internal memory or it wouldn't work

Ya I did the thing where I typed yes... Crap ya its my first time doing all this stuff so you suggest I Re do all of the rooting stuff and then flash my backup I made?

Jaygrippa said:
Ya I did the thing where I typed yes... Crap ya its my first time doing all this stuff so you suggest I Re do all of the rooting stuff and then flash my backup I made?
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You might have to. I had the same problem today where if the phone rebooted I would just get a black screen. I ended up using Odin with the stock rom, reinstalling twrp and then restoring my backup. I'm pretty sure it was a rom I flashed that caused the initial problem and only Odin would clear things up.

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Jaygrippa said:
Ya I did the thing where I typed yes... Crap ya its my first time doing all this stuff so you suggest I Re do all of the rooting stuff and then flash my backup I made?
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Actually its going back to stock, then rerooting. All I did was follow androidrootz guide here:
http://www.androidrootz.com/2013/06/how-to-unroot-unbrick-galaxy-s4.html
After that, motochopper back to get root and followed this guide to install OUDHS recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291956
This worked for me, at least for now. Hope it can help you out.

ericchaffey said:
Actually its going back to stock, then rerooting. All I did was follow androidrootz guide here:
http://www.androidrootz.com/2013/06/how-to-unroot-unbrick-galaxy-s4.html
After that, motochopper back to get root and followed this guide to install OUDHS recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291956
This worked for me, at least for now. Hope it can help you out.
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Hey thanks a bunch ill try that out later. I am at work right now and i can still use my phone on the rom i have just as long as i dont reset it. Ill try all of this out when i get home and see if that works. Thanks for everyones help
Now the only problem is i have to find a Fido ROM

Jaygrippa said:
Hey thanks a bunch ill try that out later. I am at work right now and i can still use my phone on the rom i have just as long as i dont reset it. Ill try all of this out when i get home and see if that works. Thanks for everyones help
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A couple other notes, to avoid other possible problems, use the original samsung cord when connecting to your computer. Switching USB ports can help if there are transfer or other issues. Its pretty easy and straight forward if everything works out well, but there are so many gawt dayum variables that minor issues can cause problems, though may never manifest.
Hopefully this works and please post some results to help the same in need.

ericchaffey said:
A couple other notes, to avoid other possible problems, use the original samsung cord when connecting to your computer. Switching USB ports can help if there are transfer or other issues. Its pretty easy and straight forward if everything works out well, but there are so many gawt dayum variables that minor issues can cause problems, though may never manifest.
Hopefully this works and please post some results to help the same in need.
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Ya thinks i will, now im just in the process of finding a rom for Fido, they are owned by rogers so im not sure if the rogers rom will work, This android stuff is so stressful its my first android phone so i hope all goes well!

Jaygrippa said:
Ya thinks i will, now im just in the process of finding a rom for Fido, they are owned by rogers so im not sure if the rogers rom will work, This android stuff is so stressful its my first android phone so i hope all goes well!
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I get firmware from sammobile.com. You have to register but it's free. You'll download a zip. Use 7-zip to extract the .tar.md5 file from it. Use that in Odin, PDA.

jd1639 said:
I get firmware from sammobile.com. You have to register but it's free. You'll download a zip. Use 7-zip to extract the .tar.md5 file from it. Use that in Odin, PDA.
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ya even they dont have a specific "Fido" firmware...

Anyone know if I can just use the Rogers ROM its pretty much the same company

Jaygrippa said:
Anyone know if I can just use the Rogers ROM its pretty much the same company
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It'll work. It'll just put their bloatware on and the boot animation will be theirs

Reflashed
Ok so i reflashed to the stock rom using odin and bam it works again, im just wondering what is a good way now too root, and install the same rom i had

This will have everything you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42320391

Thanks everyone for your help, I got my phone back up and running stock, then i rooted using CF- Autoroot and installed twrp again. I then reinstalled the rom i wanted to use and everything is in tip top order

Jaygrippa said:
Thanks everyone for your help, I got my phone back up and running stock, then i rooted using CF- Autoroot and installed twrp again. I then reinstalled the rom i wanted to use and everything is in tip top order
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Glad to here it. Have fun.

Help with wipe-rom-kernal for first time, If have donate button I can donate cpl$

Im not rich or I would have got a newer version tablet by now, but if anyone who helps has a donate button I have no issue donating a couple dollars to the person who helps me get this done, Thanks. Or just a couple dollar PP gift. better than nothing I guess.
I just want to be sure I dont mess anything up here. I have a nexus 7 wifi model.
I used NRT to unlock and root and all seems fine. Am I correct in this:
I use nandroid backup to backup first
Put ROM file on device (where do I put it?)
Wipe (is this done via nexus root toolkit or is ok do do in the custom recovery?)
Then what, boot into recovery and find the ROM and install it via recovery install button?
Then do I do the same with a kernal? Where do I put it?
Then done?
I know there are guides around but for a complete newbie I need to be sure cause I dont always see a complete fully explained step by step. Just like when I was stock not getting SU to work after rooting via nrt, I did read to flash SuperSU.zip, but had no idea how, then when I found the file and thought maybe install from recovery meant same as flash, I didnt know the message about messing the device up was normal so I was afraid at first.
THANKS to any replies,
Been unsure for days now trying to make sure my ducks are in a row before i commit to a ROM/Kernal. I want to CPU control for both under and overclocking etc. Mainly overclock just a little. I must say I love root already, got stuff to work I couldn't before

1. Create nandroid- there's a free app called something like nandroid on line - very simple to use
1a. I'd also recommend backing up with titanium backup app. It means you can keep your app data (e.g. game progress) when switching between ROMs, unlike a nandroid which is just a backup of your device as a restorable image
2. Put ROM file on device - ROM will be a .zip file, out it wherever you want, as long as you remember where it is
3. Put kernel anywhere on device - easiest to find a kernel with .zip format (recommend M-kernel)
4. Wipe - from custom recovery
5. Hit install in your custom recovery, I always flash kernel and then ROM, but I don't think it really matters
Install from recovery and flash are the same thing.
I'd recommend only flashing ROM or kernel and sticking with that set up for a few days, then flashing the other desired element. That way, if anything goes wrong then it's easier to pinpoint.
Good luck!!
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THANKS! Don't see a donate button, did you want anything?

No, of course not! God luck!
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butler0607 said:
5. Hit install in your custom recovery, I always flash kernel and then ROM, but I don't think it really matters
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Actually that completely matters. Flashing a kernel before rom is worthless because the rom contains a kernel that will replace whatever you have just flashed.
If you want to run a custom kernel on a rom it is recommended to boot into the rom first before flashing the kernel.

Pirateghost said:
Actually that completely matters. Flashing a kernel before rom is worthless because the rom contains a kernel that will replace whatever you have just flashed.
If you want to run a custom kernel on a rom it is recommended to boot into the rom first before flashing the kernel.
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If I just want root access and overclock should i just flash kernal and forget a rom?
can i revert back to stock kernal if need to? ask cause need to find a kernal that has V4L enabled for a usb camera app i use currently to use an inspection camera via usb on my tablet. I guess i need to read what various roms and kernals add. do i need to do both. Hard to know what to pick out of them, lol.
Thanks for advice.

Anyone know of a list to show ROMs with V4L enabled? None seem to mention it?

I have read and see different suggestions around on various sites. What all do I wipe? I have read cache, dalvik cache, plus other stuff. What all must I wipe before flashing a rom or kernel? I did a nandroid backup already.
PirateGhost, Ill donate a couple dollars if you help, thanks.
Thanks.

When going from one rom to a different one all you need to do in custom recovery is select factory reset.
This wipes out your currently installed apps, their settings, but doesn't touch your 'sdcard'
Wiping dalvik is pointless as it's automatically handled in the rom process, and cache is wiped in factory reset.
When switching kernels follow the instructions provided by the dev. If no instructions are provided, it's safe to assume you just flash without wiping anything.

When doing this, I'd recommend titanium backup too. When you do a factory reset, all apps are lost, but some data is kept (not sure on the details). Basically Titanium allows you to restore all your apps with data when you change ROMs.
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Pirateghost said:
When going from one rom to a different one all you need to do in custom recovery is select factory reset.
This wipes out your currently installed apps, their settings, but doesn't touch your 'sdcard'
Wiping dalvik is pointless as it's automatically handled in the rom process, and cache is wiped in factory reset.
When switching kernels follow the instructions provided by the dev. If no instructions are provided, it's safe to assume you just flash without wiping anything.
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Thanks! Ill donate a couple dollars later today when I get back from the doctor.
I have not put any customs ROM(s) on yet, so is it the same still? All I have done so far is unlock/root with custom recovery and nandroid backup....
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When doing this, I'd recommend titanium backup too.
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Yeah I backed up the one app I needed to via TB, I just recently unlocked and rooted so lost most app data anyway and have only added one back so far. Thanks.

butler0607 said:
When doing this, I'd recommend titanium backup too. When you do a factory reset, all apps are lost, but some data is kept (not sure on the details). Basically Titanium allows you to restore all your apps with data when you change ROMs.
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No data is kept except what's on the sdcard. Mostly only game saves and some basic stuff. Apps databases are wiped during factory reset.

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No data is kept except what's on the sdcard. Mostly only game saves and some basic stuff. Apps databases are wiped during factory reset.
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Thanks, Ill donate a couple bucks. had bad day yesterday so wasn't on much.

Is it normal for the donate link to be missing the regular PayPal security info on the browser?

eBandit078 said:
Is it normal for the donate link to be missing the regular PayPal security info on the browser?
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I have no idea what this means.

Pirateghost said:
I have no idea what this means.
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Maybe Ill just do it and change my password when finished. Thanks. Sorry not replied yet have been in a lot of pain Only a couple dollars but better than nothing I guess. Thanks for your help. Ill be back online tonight to do it.

eBandit078 said:
Maybe Ill just do it and change my password when finished. Thanks. Sorry not replied yet have been in a lot of pain Only a couple dollars but better than nothing I guess. Thanks for your help. Ill be back online tonight to do it.
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Not forgot about you, had family issues, holiday etc, well did forget but I'll look into why it does that and figure it out. Sorry for delay.

Custom 4.3 to Custom 4.4 request Tutorial

Guys,
This is driving me nuts. I want to update from PAC 4.3 rom to custom 4.4 (probably purity rom). I have been looking aroung for a tutorial to ensure i dont miss any steps and bugger up the phone (call me a newb) but i just cant, for the life of me, find a tut for that.
The devOP suggests your normal Wipe Data> wipe cache> wipe dalvik> Flash ROM> flash Gapps> flash Kernel and reboot.
Whats confusing me is
1. whether i also need to flash radios?
2. whether I need to be on CWM (coz some threads saying TWRP wont work)
3. whether i need to do do anything else out of the ordinary.
Im not one to start a thread unnecessarily, believe me I have searched the forums, and gotten answers too, but I just cant seem to reach a unanimously agreed way to do it. Would love to have a Tutorial, but for the meantime if someone could please help me by just clearing up my doubts.
Thanks a lot.:good:
P.S. i really didnt know where to put this. Moderators, hope its okay.

Just try it out. if you flash it like any other ROM, there is nothing to worry about. If your signal is acting up. Fastboot flash the new radio. If it doesn't flash, use CWM instead of TWRP.
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SMillerNL said:
Just try it out. if you flash it like any other ROM, there is nothing to worry about. If your signal is acting up. Fastboot flash the new radio. If it doesn't flash, use CWM instead of TWRP.
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Thanks buddy.. So just to be sure, i can still restore a nandroid backup yes? I mean Im all for tinkering with it, just wanna ensure i wont be hitting a wall.
Thanks again.

deathw15h said:
Thanks buddy.. So just to be sure, i can still restore a nandroid backup yes? I mean Im all for tinkering with it, just wanna ensure i wont be hitting a wall.
Thanks again.
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If you make one beforehand that is.
That's actually a valid point there, since I don't know if the 2 backup types are compatible (although I would suspect that they are) make a backup after you flashed the new recovery as well. Just to be safe.
Good luck, and enjoy 4.4!
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[Q] Few questions on roms / widgets / etc

Hey, so I'm fairly new to the whole rooting and customizing Android, so please forgive me if I come accross "ignorant" or generally childish. I bought a galaxy note 3 the other day and researched what rooting did. After getting convince that rooting was "awesome," I actually managed to root. I also played with some Xposed modules because they were fairly simple and cool. After more research, I found out that Verizon had a locked bootloader which prevented me from using any other roms? I also read that verizon/att users can use safestrap but i couldn't exactly find some specifics for it. So whats the disadvantages of safestrap? Do specific roms have to be used?
Another concern, I'd like to get a faster rom than stock touchwiz, but i'd also like to find a rom that can use ART runtime as well as maintaining a nice multi window feature. I tried XHaloFloatingWindow and another xposed module, and I can't say I was pleased with them compared to the touchwiz one. I'd also like to maintain S-pen features? Does anybody know of any roms that may come close to fitting most of these topics?
Final, completely random question, The lg g3 has this lockscreen widget where when it rains out, drops of water will cover/slide down the entire lock screen on top of your notifications. I thought this was awesome, but wasn't sure if it was possible to get on a note 3.
Anyways, Hope to get some simple answers

ATalkingRock said:
Hey, so I'm fairly new to the whole rooting and customizing Android, so please forgive me if I come accross "ignorant" or generally childish. I bought a galaxy note 3 the other day and researched what rooting did. After getting convince that rooting was "awesome," I actually managed to root. I also played with some Xposed modules because they were fairly simple and cool. After more research, I found out that Verizon had a locked bootloader which prevented me from using any other roms? I also read that verizon/att users can use safestrap but i couldn't exactly find some specifics for it. So whats the disadvantages of safestrap? Do specific roms have to be used?
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Safestrap is as close to a custom recovery as we'll get, right now. Due to our bootloader, stock based rom are all we can use. However, we are not stuck with one rom. Check in the dev threads for roms compatible with your device. Also check the dev and general threads for more info on rooting, safestrap, and how to flash roms.
Another concern, I'd like to get a faster rom than stock touchwiz, but i'd also like to find a rom that can use ART runtime as well as maintaining a nice multi window feature. I tried XHaloFloatingWindow and another xposed module, and I can't say I was pleased with them compared to the touchwiz one. I'd also like to maintain S-pen features? Does anybody know of any roms that may come close to fitting most of these topics?
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Art not available for us. Only stock based. See my recommendation above for other roms. There are a few with some pretty cool features and add-ons!
Final, completely random question, The lg g3 has this lockscreen widget where when it rains out, drops of water will cover/slide down the entire lock screen on top of your notifications. I thought this was awesome, but wasn't sure if it was possible to get on a note 3.
Anyways, Hope to get some simple answers
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Not sure about this one...

Not sure about your specific questions, as I don't use multiwindow or the other features you listed. But I thought I would point out, what method of root did you use? Make sure of what system your running at this point. beans or kitkat? You will have to select a rom based on that. Or vice versa, re-root if you find a rom that you prefer thats running different android version. Either one will run safestrap obviously, since there are roms for each. You will find pros and cons to each. The con that I'm currently experiencing on kitkat that has me thinking about going back is I can't seem to find a modem that will get me decent reception so I'm assuming at this point that its kitkat thats causing it. Just something more for you to research. Being new to it, you've got ALOT of material to read about. But if you've already rooted, sounds like you've got a decent idea of the process. For me, tutorial videos were a life saver

LeftyGR said:
Safestrap is as close to a custom recovery as we'll get, right now. Due to our bootloader, stock based rom are all we can use. However, we are not stuck with one rom. Check in the dev threads for roms compatible with your device. Also check the dev and general threads for more info on rooting, safestrap, and how to flash roms.
Art not available for us. Only stock based. See my recommendation above for other roms. There are a few with some pretty cool features and add-ons!
Not sure about this one...
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Alright so perhaps you can help me with just a few more concerns. I researched roms and such. I successfully downloaded safestrap, made a backup of my stock rom and put it on mycomputer. I also made a backup with titanium backup before that and it is also on the computer. I am looking at hyperdrive or jasminerom for the note 3. On there, it explains normal directions to install, but then it says to flash with odin, but when I read something about a tutorial how to install cutom roms on a website "Galaxynote3root" (I can't post the URL yet, says i'll be spamming) , it explained nothing of odin. What is odin? is it mandatory? Does my phone have it by default? hm.... Also i have a build number of NC4, does that build not work with NC2? sorry for inconvenience or annoying noobish questions. Thanks if you respond

So being on Kitkat, did you use the beans method that installed a rom with root basically built in already? And by saying you downloaded safestrap, is it successfully installed? When you boot the phone, do you get the safestrap bootup screen allowing to go into recovery?
If you've already gotten that far, your pretty well set to install either of those roms.

LeftyGR said:
Safestrap is as close to a custom recovery as we'll get, right now. Due to our bootloader, stock based rom are all we can use. However, we are not stuck with one rom. Check in the dev threads for roms compatible with your device. Also check the dev and general threads for more info on rooting, safestrap, and how to flash roms.
Art not available for us. Only stock based. See my recommendation above for other roms. There are a few with some pretty cool features and add-ons!
Not sure about this one...
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scott_65 said:
So being on Kitkat, did you use the beans method that installed a rom with root basically built in already? And by saying you downloaded safestrap, is it successfully installed? When you boot the phone, do you get the safestrap bootup screen allowing to go into recovery?
If you've already gotten that far, your pretty well set to install either of those roms.
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Well i rooted my phone via towelroot. I got safestrap hooked up and installed, so in other words when i reboot, yes it does have the splash screen. I am on kitkat as well. but do i need to install some sort of odin or something? sorry

I think as long as the rom's op says it's based on nc2 or nc4, you should be good. You should not need to worry about odin, since you're already on kk.
Since you're new, I'd suggest not touching the stock slot. It gives you a fall back if something goes wrong. Make sure you understand using safestrap, and start trying some stuff out.
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scott_65 said:
So being on Kitkat, did you use the beans method that installed a rom with root basically built in already? And by saying you downloaded safestrap, is it successfully installed? When you boot the phone, do you get the safestrap bootup screen allowing to go into recovery?
If you've already gotten that far, your pretty well set to install either of those roms.
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Sounds like he rooted the nc4 with towelroot, cuz he started on nc4. And sounds like ss is working for him, if he's made a backup.

LeftyGR said:
I think as long as the rom's op says it's based on nc2 or nc4, you should be good. You should not need to worry about odin, since you're already on kk.
Since you're new, I'd suggest not touching the stock slot. It gives you a fall back if something goes wrong. Make sure you understand using safestrap, and start trying some stuff out.
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Okay thanks, that boosts my confidence a bit! I'm just afraid of bricking my phone, as any noobie should be.

ATalkingRock said:
Okay thanks, that boosts my confidence a bit! I'm just afraid of bricking my phone, as any noobie should be.
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Good man.
If you find something that you don't know or understand, search that thread for an answer. Then ask if you don't find an answer. And always try to give any other details you think might help.
As long as you remember search is your friend first...then ask...you will almost always find people to help you out!

LeftyGR said:
Good man.
If you find something that you don't know or understand, search that thread for an answer. Then ask if you don't find an answer. And always try to give any other details you think might help.
As long as you remember search is your friend first...then ask...you will almost always find people to help you out!
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alright alright I'm very sorry for this final question as I actually have tried to search for this but only got comparisons between titanium backup and safestrap. So, if I were to make a titanium backup right now, after the fact that i made a safestrap backup or installation, will that effect anything? I'm really really sorry if these questions are beyond beginner, I just like to play it safe.

ATalkingRock said:
alright alright I'm very sorry for this final question as I actually have tried to search for this but only got comparisons between titanium backup and safestrap. So, if I were to make a titanium backup right now, after the fact that i made a safestrap backup or installation, will that effect anything? I'm really really sorry if these questions are beyond beginner, I just like to play it safe.
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Nope. Tibu backs up specific apps and it's associated data and stores it on sd. When you open tibu, it gets it's info from files it stores on sd. Recovery backs up your entire rom environment, but doesn't actually touch sd card user space.
This is why tibu is so helpful. Everything pops up that you had backed up, even on a new rom.

I'm not familiar with the towelroot method. Only the old Kingo for jb, or the beans method for kk. Sounds like your good to go for any KK roms, and Lefty seems familiar, good deal. Not sure how old you are or how far back your computer knowledge goes, so this may do you no good. Odin doesn't go on your phone, it goes on your computer. I always think of it as the old school DOS, or like now when you boot to command prompt if windows isn't working. Its like a back door when your phone operating system isn't working, or if you need to make changes to part of the system that would otherwise need to be running to make those changes FROM the phone. Its flashes the changes TO the phone from your computer instead.
I'm rambling. Its too early. Anyhow, glad your getting things moving along. You can try roms in various rom slots, but you may have issues. I had some roms work well, others not well at all. The ones that have problems, they seem to work better in the stock slot. So you have to wipe the stock slot and flash it there. No big deal, just don't goof up, flash it all at once. If you pause, take a potty break and the battery dies, whatever, don't forget, you have no operating system at that point. Thats when Odin would come into play

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Nope. Tibu backs up specific apps and it's associated data and stores it on sd. When you open tibu, it gets it's info from files it stores on sd. Recovery backs up your entire rom environment, but doesn't actually touch sd card user space.
This is why tibu is so helpful. Everything pops up that you had backed up, even on a new rom.
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Alright so quick update. I successfully installed both roms into slots 1 and 2 respectively. Everything went okay, I rebooted system, but the screen just stayed black. They aren't loading, i still can go back to stock rom. But uhm any idea as to why this is occuring? Could it be the NC4/NC2 build things?
In the hyperdrive rom for the note 3, it says it will work with verizon and also states that after the initial reboot after flashing the rom, there will be a 10 minute wait until it actually boots up. I'd say i've waited 15 minutes and nothing has shown up. So I'm assuming something went wrong. Perhaps i should try to reflash it?
EDIT: I read the directions further ahead and managed to flash a file via odin for the first time, now im getting a rom's boot animation which is good. I hope this'll work !
Edit 2: I successfully installed it and booted it up, everything went okay, I restored my titanium backup and then titanium prompted me to restart. I restarted, and now its bootlooping android.process.acore or something like that is crashing everything =/

ATalkingRock said:
Alright so quick update. I successfully installed both roms into slots 1 and 2 respectively. Everything went okay, I rebooted system, but the screen just stayed black. They aren't loading, i still can go back to stock rom. But uhm any idea as to why this is occuring? Could it be the NC4/NC2 build things?
In the hyperdrive rom for the note 3, it says it will work with verizon and also states that after the initial reboot after flashing the rom, there will be a 10 minute wait until it actually boots up. I'd say i've waited 15 minutes and nothing has shown up. So I'm assuming something went wrong. Perhaps i should try to reflash it?
EDIT: I read the directions further ahead and managed to flash a file via odin for the first time, now im getting a rom's boot animation which is good. I hope this'll work !
Edit 2: I successfully installed it and booted it up, everything went okay, I restored my titanium backup and then titanium prompted me to restart. I restarted, and now its bootlooping android.process.acore or something like that is crashing everything =/
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uh oh now my stock rom is bootlooping as well. i in trouble

ATalkingRock said:
uh oh now my stock rom is bootlooping as well. i in trouble
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What did you flash in odin?

LeftyGR said:
What did you flash in odin?
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In JasmineRom's instructions it says to flash a file called unified_KK_Firmware_RE.tar.md5. After flashing it, it booted up to the new rom.But seemingly once i restarted after titanium backup restored everything it crashed. I then cleared all the cache and data through a factory reset in the safestrap settings and it started up normally. Am I not going to be able to restore my things through titanium? I would send you a link to the odin flash file, but I can't until I have a certain number of posts

ATalkingRock said:
In JasmineRom's instructions it says to flash a file called unified_KK_Firmware_RE.tar.md5. After flashing it, it booted up to the new rom.But seemingly once i restarted after titanium backup restored everything it crashed. I then cleared all the cache and data through a factory reset in the safestrap settings and it started up normally. Am I not going to be able to restore my things through titanium? I would send you a link to the odin flash file, but I can't until I have a certain number of posts
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No need. I know what you're saying. So flashing that file shouldn't have been really necessary, given you're already on nc4. But it doesn't hurt and should not have caused what you described. So you have roms in stock, slot 1, and slot 2? Which ones bootloop?
For tibu, I would uninstall, reboot, reinstall. Somehow it didn't like you doing that.

LeftyGR said:
No need. I know what you're saying. So flashing that file shouldn't have been really necessary, given you're already on nc4. But it doesn't hurt and should not have caused what you described. So you have roms in stock, slot 1, and slot 2? Which ones bootloop?
For tibu, I would uninstall, reboot, reinstall. Somehow it didn't like you doing that.
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Alright so as we speak right now, I have slot 1 with jasminerom and stock which should be the untouched stock rom of course. I have a backup through safestrap of that. I will uninstall titaniumbackup and reinstall and see if that works?
edit: sorry I feel as though I'm being unclear as I can hardly comprehend my own messages. Before, both slot 1 and stock were bootlooping. This bootloop came after titanium backup promted me to restart. But when i cleared the cache through the factory reset, the slot1 rom started to work agin (jasminerom), I haven't tried stock rom to see if it works yet. I'm currently on jasminerom about to re-restore my apps through titanium backup like you said.

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No need. I know what you're saying. So flashing that file shouldn't have been really necessary, given you're already on nc4. But it doesn't hurt and should not have caused what you described. So you have roms in stock, slot 1, and slot 2? Which ones bootloop?
For tibu, I would uninstall, reboot, reinstall. Somehow it didn't like you doing that.
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alright i finished re-restoring through titanium backup. Once it finished it provided a notification saying "batch complete, 66 elements failed" Right now all my apps are here and everything is seeming to work. Should I restart to see if it bootloops again?

ATalkingRock said:
alright i finished re-restoring through titanium backup. Once it finished it provided a notification saying "batch complete, 66 elements failed" Right now all my apps are here and everything is seeming to work. Should I restart to see if it bootloops again?
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You should be ok. How many apps did you try to restore, if 66 failed?