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[Q] Note 4 lags after lollipop update.

My N910H lags in games after I updated it to stock 5.0.1.
I play Modern Combat 5 it was smooth in Kitkat now it's really laggy.
I got 50k in Antutu with Kitkat, now it's 38-42k.
Can someone help me? I'm a heavy gamer and I want the best performance in games. Or should I downgrade to Kitkat?
Thanks for your help!

Things I already tried:
- Factory reset (2x)
- Power saving mode is OFF.
- Turning off bluetooth, sync, location, and nfc.
- Reinstall Antutu.
- Reinstall MC5
My device is unrooted and Knox warranty status is 0x0.

Benchmarks don't really mean anything for Christ sake....if your games don't play smoothly then just downgrade to kitkat and wait for Samsung to hopefully updated our devices with a newer and better working version of Lollipop.

I had the g3 and boy did they screw the pooch on that one! The device got so slow and battery life was considerably worse! This was the 32/3gb version... Hopefully samsung won't mess this up big time.

All other scores looks fine.. Except for 3d graphics.

Man i have the same problem here it seems that the phone is always in power saving mode and the gpu is limited to 350 mhz instead of 700 mhz. Also the cpu runs at 1.3 ghz instead of 1.9 for the big cores thats why it has low score in antutu hope somebody figures out a solution and also this is a bug in this update
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I have the same problem guys with my n910f. It starts after lollipop update. Did you try kitkat, it works now as it should?

TheW7U11 said:
I have the same problem guys with my n910f. It starts after lollipop update. Did you try kitkat, it works now as it should?
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Try doing a factory reset if you have't done it already.

It didnt work.

i updated my N910H too and i confirm the lag too, perhaps i will downgrade, will give it more time.

Note 4 snapdragon Getting Hot

Hi guys,
I have purchased Note 4 recently and it seems to be heating in minimal tasks also like surfing the internet. i have flashed KITKAT, LOLLIPOP(default) and MARSHMALLOW but in all these firmwares the problem seemed to be consistent. Earlier i used snapdragon phone which was clocked at 2.3 GHZ and used to heat @ heavy games like No Limits, with recording on but this one is heating in angry birds itself. Though no lags are observed. I have not tried the Marshmallow version latest yet but some body told that latest update fixed heating issue. The root problem i see is its Processor clocked @ 2.7 GHZ, i mean this much we see in PC. I dont understand why they have gone so far. Now Samsung kernel must be clocked such way that on demand it bumps the frequency to max. This max i want to limit to 2 GHZ but without knocking down KNOX warranty. If some one has latest updated Marshmallow release and can confirm that it is indeed not heating please comment or tell me the solution to this problem, i really like this phone but hate when it heats. I am ok with slight lagging due to underclocking. i am willing to flash kernels with lower max frequency via ODIN. No custom recovery intended. Also i dont want to loose on warranty.
Thanks and Regards,
Really looking forward to solution
Ankit

xdatechie said:
Hi guys,
I have purchased Note 4 recently and it seems to be heating in minimal tasks also like surfing the internet. i have flashed KITKAT, LOLLIPOP(default) and MARSHMALLOW but in all these firmwares the problem seemed to be consistent. Earlier i used snapdragon phone which was clocked at 2.3 GHZ and used to heat @ heavy games like No Limits, with recording on but this one is heating in angry birds itself. Though no lags are observed. I have not tried the Marshmallow version latest yet but some body told that latest update fixed heating issue. The root problem i see is its Processor clocked @ 2.7 GHZ, i mean this much we see in PC. I dont understand why they have gone so far. Now Samsung kernel must be clocked such way that on demand it bumps the frequency to max. This max i want to limit to 2 GHZ but without knocking down KNOX warranty. If some one has latest updated Marshmallow release and can confirm that it is indeed not heating please comment or tell me the solution to this problem, i really like this phone but hate when it heats. I am ok with slight lagging due to underclocking. i am willing to flash kernels with lower max frequency via ODIN. No custom recovery intended. Also i dont want to loose on warranty.
Thanks and Regards,
Really looking forward to solution
Ankit
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well i had the same problem in LP but with MM the heating problem is gone. You might have a defective device.
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Amar.B said:
well i had the same problem in LP but with MM the heating problem is gone. You might have a defective device.
Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
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Thanks , but i have got replacements and all of them heated in marshmallow, but i didnot try thr latest patch of marshmallow. So according to you in Marshmallow its not heating at all right?

xdatechie said:
Thanks , but i have got replacements and all of them heated in marshmallow, but i didnot try thr latest patch of marshmallow. So according to you in Marshmallow its not heating at all right?
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Yeah don't worry, mine has been replaced too actually twice in one week
i asked around and i found out that the heating issue is normal. just flash the latest august security patch
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Nougat upgrade lowered cpuclock??!

So I upgraded my X compact to official Nougat 7.0 a couple of days back and on first impressions I noticed some lag here and there mostly when scrolling
And I knew that Snapdragon 650 is almost clos to SD810 so what could be the problem because it was awesomely fluid and smooth on MM 6.0.1, so I started to dig up and here's what I noticed:
In CPUz app on MM it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.8 GHz but today I looked it up and in Nougat it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.4 GHz!!! And if you look at cpu cores, those 2 last core Cpu4 and cpu5 are stopped (i guess those two are [email protected] cores right?)
So conclusion is that A72 cores which are the main core to maintain smoothness are offline for some reason so Im asking developers to dig this up and help us out
Thank you

If there is no activity they should be stopped. My old Xperia M2 usually had only 1 core out of 4 active at the minimum clock. Then sure, if something was running in the background all 4 kicked at the hight clock.
I can't check right now with Nougat (my phone is currently updating to it. But it seems to take an awful lot of time. I think it has been updating for 20 minutes or more. Hopefully it's just updating all Dalvik caches or what they are now), but in Marshmallow all 6 cores were always active even with the CPU nearly idle. In my case I think that helped to cause the somehow high battery drain I had (that and plus wakelocks spamming all time).
But sure, if that means the phone will start lagging, screw it. I could deal with a day of battery life, I sure can't deal (again. And then again and again!) with a keyboard showing up after 1 or more seconds also missing the keys while swiping.
PS: it finally installed. You're right. Something definitively looks wrong with it. The cores 4 & 5 are disabled even with Google Play doing some apps updates. Unless it's because CPU Z isn't supporting Nougat yet. I'll have to investigate more via adb.
PPS: It might be the typical placebo effect but it actually feels even smoother now! So I am not sure what's going on.

Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue

I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.

I don't have those problems....
edit: I HAVE THIS PROBLEM.....

Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!

Can someone on 7.0 with the Issue use CPU-Z (from google play) and click on "online validation" and share thr link to the CPU information page here, please?

Kianush said:
Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!
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you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat

cingolat said:
you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat
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Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...

Kianush said:
Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...
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I agree with you, and hope in a future update to solve this bug(because it is obviously a bug), but for now I can live with this.... maybe I'm lucky, but I don't have big lags, just a little bit here and there..... hope in future 7.1.1 to solve that....
another thing I notice is a louder speaker sound.....

dcro95 said:
I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.
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Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?

Kianush said:
Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue
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I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.

kwaille said:
Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?
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I had a customized FR ROM 34.1.A.3.49, I had the Nougat update by OTA.
I made some test with ANTUTU with Nougat ROM, the results are :
- 80160
- 75600
- 74600
- 80780

Miche1asso said:
I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.
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Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag
The laging that comes up after turning on Stamina is waaaay more than the lag that I talked about in OP, of course that is big enough to be seen by anyone!
On android 6.0.1 I didnt see even the smallest lag absolutly nothing! but after the upgrade to 7.0 I was starting to see small lags here and there(you might not even see it! Im very sensitive in this case) like for example when you have 3 notifications try to open notification bar with slow to normal finger swipe down, it lags a little there, and other examples that i said before.
At first i thought maybe the rom is not well optimized but after I saw cpuz I was sure that those cores are off!
On android MM telegram messenger had no lags, nothing! But now it lags a lot when scrolling but i say again this "a lot" is in compariaon to MM! not to Xperia tipo!!!
So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.

I created a thread here quoting your first post. Maybe it will get more attention
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ock/td-p/1187152/jump-to/first-unread-message

Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
However I can"t say it lag. It maybe a little longer to charge game or big app but I use them to rarely to compare

crazy-gump said:
Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
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Same for me, after reboot and used photos, th� where actived and cpu turn at 1.8ghz. 5min after they where disable. I think it depend cpu use. I ve no lag.

Kianush said:
Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag.
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Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.

Miche1asso said:
Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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So what you say is that those cores are functioning normally but its juat showing them sleep right?!?
Then please tell me whats the reason on these even small lags?
Those dont matter actually, I need to know why I cant play spiderman unlimited and asphalt 8 on ultra setting like before
You could test them yourself
See 4 a53 1.4GHz are enough for daily usage but on heavy usage its obiouse that those a72 cores are missing
But there is one probibility, that those guys become active on very high usage like antutu! But I guess thats gonna be VERY HIGH!

Miche1asso said:
And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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I have exactly the same on Antutu, and the max frequency is 1804 MHz.

Low performance, only 68k on antutu, 4 cores only?

Hello guys,
Im brasilian and my english is so bad.
Recently I got a used Nexus 6P 64gb. I already had a nexus 6P previously, and I love this device.
So, the performance is not normal, very slow for some tasking. I just downloaded CPU Z and it shows that all cores is working normally, but testing on antutu, i just got a 68k.
Already installed another rom but nothing changes...
Can anyone help me with some directions to solve that?
Thanks in advance.

Make sure all apps in the background are closed. Don't think your score is all that bad. You could try a custom kernel if your using twrp.

Exodusche said:
Make sure all apps in the background are closed. Don't think your score is all that bad. You could try a custom kernel if your using twrp.
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All apps closed.
no, sorry but 68k is not normal for a nexus 6P.
I need to know what a hell is going on with this phone. Maybe it got a BLOD and the old owner raised him.

Curiousrge said:
All apps closed.
no, sorry but 68k is not normal for a nexus 6P.
I need to know what a hell is going on with this phone. Maybe it got a BLOD and the old owner raised him.
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Ok sorry your title said one thing and your comments another. Go to settings-system-about phone and look what is says under kernel. Or if that doesn't tell you could get a free kernel app like elemental app or kernel aduitor. Sometimes the big cores are put to sleep to save power but if you run something in the background will wake them up.

Exodusche said:
Ok sorry your title said one thing and your comments another. Go to settings-system-about phone and look what is says under kernel. Or if that doesn't tell you could get a free kernel app like elemental app or kernel aduitor. Sometimes the big cores are put to sleep to save power but if you run something in the background will wake them up.
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To be clearer. I realized that my device was performing very poorly, so I downloaded CPUZ thinking that maybe my device had suffered BLOD and four cores was disabled.
In CPU-Z, i saw that the 8 cores is working normally.
I already changed the rom and with that the kernel has also been changed. but nothing has changed.
now, I have a cell phone with half the performance, but apparently the 8 clocks are working.
Can you understand now?
ps: a normal nexus 6P get 110k+ on antutu, mine is 68k.

Curiousrge said:
To be clearer. I realized that my device was performing very poorly, so I downloaded CPUZ thinking that maybe my device had suffered BLOD and four cores was disabled.
In CPU-Z, i saw that the 8 cores is working normally.
I already changed the rom and with that the kernel has also been changed. but nothing has changed.
now, I have a cell phone with half the performance, but apparently the 8 clocks are working.
Can you understand now?
ps: a normal nexus 6P get 110k+ on antutu, mine is 68k.
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I'm using stock 8.1 from March Google has really stepped up there game. I've never run this test before but here are my results. Maybe stock will yield better preformance give it a try.

Got 88,000 on lineage 15.1 with no tweaks. I did get an incoming text message and updates were installing while the test was running so I think my score could've been higher.

so i updated gpu drivers and...

...and it gets me some smoother framerates and around 10k more on antutu. but it could be just difference in how hot was tablet in first and second benchmarks.
i'm on oreo stock, t820 model. tried playing space marshals as it is my favourite game and without tweaks... it was unbearable.
with gpu update that you can find here on xda forums it got better. not ipad level better, but decent. still it seems like samsung didn't even try to optimize this tablet. i have read that it lags but i have no ui lag, just graphics lag an stutter, tearing and so on.
if anyone wants to give it a try just search for adreno 530 gpu update. should be on xiaomi mi mix subforum. there are two releases.
tried both and it seems that r8 gives smoother graphics but r15 does not heat up so quickly

Very interesting, thanks! Unfortunately, that's not a surprise. Samsung makes good hardware but absolutely doesn't care about the software.

And you just downloaded from the OP?

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And you just downloaded from the OP?
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That s' what he said, from

dvijetrecine said:
...and it gets me some smoother framerates and around 10k more on antutu. but it could be just difference in how hot was tablet in first and second benchmarks.
i'm on oreo stock, t820 model. tried playing space marshals as it is my favourite game and without tweaks... it was unbearable.
with gpu update that you can find here on xda forums it got better. not ipad level better, but decent. still it seems like samsung didn't even try to optimize this tablet. i have read that it lags but i have no ui lag, just graphics lag an stutter, tearing and so on.
if anyone wants to give it a try just search for adreno 530 gpu update. should be on xiaomi mi mix subforum. there are two releases.
tried both and it seems that r8 gives smoother graphics but r15 does not heat up so quickly
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Thanks for that information! It would be nice, if you optimize your thread description a little bit and inlclude a guide to setup our device, because this is a really useful Update for all tab s3 owners.
It would be also nice if you provide us your benchmark results. I attached my antutu results with the new rev 15 driver, with stock driver and with stock driver combined with magisk gpu turbo bo9st module. The new rev15 driver only gave me 120.000 points, the stock one 126.000 and combined with boost module over 142.000. So on my end the new gpu driver seems to be useless...
*update: it seems like there are huge differences in the atuntu results. Yesterday evening i got with the new rev15 driver and magisk gpu boost 112.000 points and today in the morning i tried again and i got over 170.000 points. very strange...
Thanks in advance.

Stogie87 said:
Thanks for that information! It would be nice, if you optimize your thread description a little bit and inlclude a guide to setup our device, because this is a really useful Update for all tab s3 owners.
It would be also nice if you provide us your benchmark results. I attached my antutu results with the new rev 15 driver, with stock driver and with stock driver combined with magisk gpu turbo bo9st module. The new rev15 driver only gave me 120.000 points, the stock one 126.000 and combined with boost module over 142.000. So on my end the new gpu driver seems to be useless...
*update: it seems like there are huge differences in the atuntu results. Yesterday evening i got with the new rev15 driver and magisk gpu boost 112.000 points and today in the morning i tried again and i got over 170.000 points. very strange...
Thanks in advance.
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there is no any special set up. unlock bootloader, install twrp and flash zip that you can find on xiaomi subforums. even somebody posted link in this thread.
the thing with this tablet is that it heats up quickly and throttles like nothing. no wonder you got better score in the morning. i also tried an app called L speed, you can find it on playstore, but it did nothing, just made it worse in my opinion.
this tablet had great potential, but with bad optimisation and cooling... it's apsolute joke. if i could only open it easily to add some copper for better thermal dissipation. and also a modded kernel would help bbut we have none of that

anyone can show a full details on how to install the gpu update? my devices is t825...

KY.Wong said:
anyone can show a full details on how to install the gpu update? my devices is t825...
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That's what i was previously asking for. So this is no real thread with instructions. Just an short information.
You will find the installation instructions here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/development/driver-adreno-530-540-gpu-driver-t3815853