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My hermes standby time was about 2-3 days depending on my usage. but two days ago, i charged my hermes to %100 and then i slept, when i woke up in the morning, my tytn was closed, i tried to open, but it did not.. So when i pluged the charger, red light flashed and then yellow, which means my battery was fully empty and started to be charged, so it worked again.
And now it takes about 2 hours to be fully charged, but it only takes 4 hours to be completely discharged again!!! It happened so suddenly! As i know, batteries die slowly, not that much suddenly??! Do you think there could be another problem?? Or is it just my battery?? is it possible that my battery died in one night??!
I could think of a couple of things...bad battery, faulty device, or you are just doing so much with the phone that the battery is being drained. Do you keep bluetooth turned on, and wifi, and have your phone polling for new emails every 15 minutes? That will most certainly drain the battery really quick. Also, do you have the device set to automatically hibernate when not in use? I just received a new 8525 due to warranty 4 days ago, and I have not done any modding to it yet. Off the bat, I noticed that my battery life has significantly increased.
djan84 said:
My hermes standby time was about 2-3 days depending on my usage. but two days ago, i charged my hermes to %100 and then i slept, when i woke up in the morning, my tytn was closed, i tried to open, but it did not.. So when i pluged the charger, red light flashed and then yellow, which means my battery was fully empty and started to be charged, so it worked again.
And now it takes about 2 hours to be fully charged, but it only takes 4 hours to be completely discharged again!!! It happened so suddenly! As i know, batteries die slowly, not that much suddenly??! Do you think there could be another problem?? Or is it just my battery?? is it possible that my battery died in one night??!
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There are causes depending on the battery and causes depending on the hermes:
Battery:
1> The battery has a certain lenght of life. This type of battery is very sensitive and can be charged around 300 and 500 times. Each time you connect the charger you "consume" a bit of the life. Nothing to do with memory effect but with the physic of lipo batteries. How old is your battery?
2> Lipo batteries can not be discharged below a certain voltage (3.00 volt per cell. The hermes battery is a one cell type). If this happens, you kill the battery (short capacity, impossible to charge,...) The pda is normally equiped with a circuitry able to avoid this.
PDA:
1> You can have running applications burning power. But you know that
2> In certain circumstances, the motherboard can have a problem and starts to burn your battery. This is a hardware problem which needs MB replacement. This problem is described in the maintenance manual of the hermes and is tested by service people when a hermes is refurbished.
You can try the following:
1> Fully load your battery and close all applications (No phone,nothing). See what happens in one night
2> Fully load the battery and shut the pda down. See if the battery remains fully loaded. If it is not the case, try again with the battery out of the phone. If the battery is partially/totally discharged with the battery out of the pda, the battery is dead.
3> See how much your phone consumes by using this application: http://www.acbpocketsoft.com/Products/acbPowerMeter/acbPowerMeter-Overview-2.html
Start your hermes without anything loaded (no phone,...) With backlight on (default level) and nothing running except this application, the level will be around 70mA (average). Without backlight, you would be around 25mA. At least this is what i get on mine (rom,... see my signature). This test is very dependent of the OS and the radio rom loaded
This will not repair your battery, but i hope this will help you to identify the problem
" As i know, batteries die slowly, not that much suddenly??!"
yes like humans batteries age and die after awhile
but all electronics like humans can die of a "heart attack" too
Thank you everyone is very helpful here Well i found the reason for my short stanby time, i am using pays rom 1.31 and there is a program called HSDPA switch, somehow when i uncheck the `Turn on HSDPA` box, everything seems to be normal again!! After a deep searching week, now i know the problem. I know its very odd, but when i re select that box, again my battery finishes in about 2 hours... Strange yep..
I know there are already a lot of discussions on battery drain and believe me, I have read every single one of them. However, I think mine is slightly different:
When fully charged and using WIFI for 10 minutes, 10% of juice will be used. Listening to MP3 for 1 hour will also use another 10%. Overall, battery life is really bad but the key is it only happened suddenly. It have been very good up till now.
I have tested this on another battery and have exactly the same results so it is not battery related. I have also hard reset the phone and tested the battery with nothing installed and it still drains. A full charge only lasts me like 4 hour of very light use.
I installed Battlog and the power consumption is around 90 which I think is pretty low, but at times, even with this low consumption, I can see the battery usage literally falling before my eyes, like 5 % in 5 minutes.
I have also tried the HTC battery test, i.e. fully charged the battery, turned on plane mode and full brightness. After one hour, it only used 8% which I thought is normal. However, if I start using the phone by just simply clicking around, it will start dropping.
I believe the phone is fine on standby but once it starts doing things, even simple operations like moving around folders, it starts consuming a lot of power.
This all happens after an overnight charging episode when I noticed that the light stays amber in the morning and the percentage stays at 80%. I soft reset the phone and it immediately show 100%. This has never happen again but my battery usage is never normal since.
All in all, I think it is somehow hardware related, like the battery gauge is bad or the charging is never complete but it still shows green. It is still under warranty but I think will be very difficult to convince the service centre that there is something genuinely wrong with the phone.
P.S. Should also mentioned that I am using the stock telstra rom and have also cycled through the batteries twice before testing.
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
Fenixz said:
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
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I had actually "reset" the battery but only drain it to 5% before recharging as I have read that it is not safe to drain to 0%. I'll try to completely drain it tonight and recharge. Will report back.
btw, I noticed that when the battery is charged to 100%, the led stays amber for about 15-20 minutes before turning green. Is this normal or should it turn green immediately after reaching 100%?
Tried completely draining the battery and charge overnight but have no effect. The problem persists. So this is definitely not a battery problem.
I guess the last thing I can try is charging the battery with a standalone charger or another HD to see if there is problem with the charging mechanism in my phone.
The latest Telstra rom seems a bit better on battery
led amber
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
aidinali said:
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
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aidinali, can you please explain what you mean? I thought the led will go off if you unplugged the charger. My problem is that after reaching 100% as indicated on the phone, the led stays amber for another 15 minutes before turning green.
Well , I'll correct & explain more....
1-when you reach %100 ,the led will turn to green immediately (if you’r phone is plugged in).
2-if you unplug ,the led will turn off (as you said ).
The problem is that since the battery meter in HD has not been defined by percentage , it doesn't match with
Apps like battery level or battlog .so when you see %100 on them , it' s not "real % 100 ".
I believe there is something wrong with the phone as the percentage usage and charging status do not match. However, since the basic HTC software does not have any battery usage in percentage, it’s hard to convince the service centre that something is wrong.
Any software that shows the battery as a percentage all have the same reading, so I assume they all rely on the mainboard for that information. There is obviously something wrong with either the charging process of the phone or draining more battery than it needs during usage.
I have 100% exactly the same problem as in the original post.
Does anyone else?
I have also tried 2 batteries and had exactly the same results with both, so I also know it is not the battery. The only app I have installed other than Dutty's 6.5 rom is Tomtom which does not need to be run for any of these issues to occur.
Any chance on warranty? I think it's software...
Try a different ROM. I've been having the same problem. I just flashed a new ROM about an hour ago (partly because Dutty's 6.5 kept freezing). I'm hoping both problems will be solved now.
i've found the latest radio rom to make a big different to battery life. 1.14.25.24_radio
the previous radio rom (1.13?) did suck the juice and made battery last 2 days less than 1.14
Try charging with a different charger. Ie. connect a USB cable on your PC and charge it from there.
I've had very similar problems with the stock charger a month after i got my TouchHD, and ended up testing with my old P4350 charger and all problems went away.
I've had similar drains even witch WiFi off, no emails, exchange or 3G access...
Now i'm getting a whole day's usage and i'm left with 30-40% battery, with 2 hours average talk time
I've tried with a number of chargers.....battery still sucks.
I've just switched from Dutty's to Energy ROM, radio is 1.14
If anything...energy drains more quickly than Dutty's
It says it drawing 350mA
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
samlives said:
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
I had same problem when i flashed miri's rom, hd got warm and didn't last, it cooled down in standby, the answer to my problem was that the wifi was not set to save battery mode, once i set it to save power everything was ok
Used 8% in 24 hours
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
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Have been trying that for a month now....something seems to have suddenly worked It only used 8% of the battery in 24 hours! I live in the rainforest with no service so cellular was turned off...wifi on, but I only accessed it about 6 times......still,nothing has changed. The same conditions would leave me with a dead battery in 7 hours previously.
Time will tell if it keeps up this well.
By the way....Thanks
So basically you're saying people should drain down the battery to 1% or so and not to 0% (device dies when battery is out) to get a better battery strength?
Seems to be the general consensus. I'm still not sure if that's what made the difference for me but previously,I would put my device to standbye when I went to sleep at 10:30pm and it would be dead by 6am
I noticed that in CWM 3 (on gingerbread running device), when u click on wipe battery stats in CWM, Nothing happens while in old CWM's when we use to click on wipe battery stats, we get a message "battery stats wiped successfully".
So to wipe my battery stats, i found a software in android market called "battery calibration"
Just download this software from market (its free) and you will get your results.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&feature=search_result
I plugged in the cable to get to 100% charge (4250mV), I clicked "Battery Calibration" then waited until it was done and unplugged the phone. Then it was at 99% wtf. What does this mean? Is my battery calibrated now or what?
Multiple posts on here full battery reads 100-97%
Battery is only calibrated after battery stats wiped battery drained and charged to 100% then phone used for two weeks .
jje
JJEgan said:
Multiple posts on here full battery reads 100-97%
Battery is only calibrated after battery stats wiped battery drained and charged to 100% then phone used for two weeks .
jje
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Thanks for the info, man. So, now that I have calibrated with this app, I just have to drain the battery to 0% - then the phone turns off automatically - and recharge till 100%, then it's calibrated? Woah
PS: Do i have to recharge my phone while it is on or better while it is off?
Galaxy S 2.2.1 firmwares never show 100% battery life when not on charger. As soon as u unplug ur charger the level will drop to 96% or something. Reconnect ur phone to charger again and after 5 mins it ll again show 100% than again as soon as u unplug it, the level drop down to anywhere more than 96%.
just untick wait for 100% option in battery calibration software and ur battery ll be calibrated. do once ur phone is fully charged and once when ur battery level is just 1-2%
Actually its down to the modem version you run.
I ran one modem version that gave me excellent battery life (near on two days of constant use and only 50% drain. Also it STAYED at 100% for about 20 minutes after unplugging if i didnt use the phone, when i used this modem.
The problem is that to get better battery life you have to compromise on signal quality on the modem. The less battery the modem uses usually results in less signal strength, because its not using as much power to find its mast.
read #11 in "Getting the most out of your SGS" thread. That section is on why it's not good to overcharge your battery.
11. Do NOT overcharge
--Why, when, where: Almost all new batteries have an overcharging protection. This means that the protection that is built into the battery will not let it charge to 100%. This is a feature, not a bug! This will help prolong your battery life while also keeping it safe from overheating/explosion/etc. Do not try to trick it and unplug and plug again until you see 100%, just get used to the fact that you can't have 100% battery anymore and live with it, or you risk destroying your battery.
My device only goes upto 4170mV.
Anybody has the same issue?
Hey guys. I am experiencing the most strange battery problem ever. I am on Darky 10 RC6 with ZSJPG modem. Now I wanted to calibrate my battery so I completely used it till it switched off, turned it on again but it switched off completely indicating that the battery was finished.
Then I plugged in the charger while the phone was off and it started charging. After 5 hours it was still not fully charged, i waited another couple of hours but still not and then when I plugged out the charger and plugged it back again it drained to around 25 % .. I switched on my phone and it shows me a different battery meter everytime I reboot or start again and its not even charging at a good speed now. Please help
Now the phone vibrates in a while by itself and everytime I reboot, I have a massive battery drain of around 10 percent and if I charge my phone it charges so slow, like 4 percent in 1 hour :s
And now ive unplugged the charger and actually the battery meter is increasing. It has increased from 18 to 24 in 20 mins :s
Are you charging by the mains charger or the USB charger ??
how long has this been happening for ? its more likely to be an issue with the rom.
if it bothers you that much, Return to stock rom and compare battery drain..
if battery life is a lot better with stock, the problem is darkys rom, so i would switch to something else.
maybe make your own in the romkitchen.org
I am charging from the main charger, not the usb. It did not happen before, as I have been on the darky Rom since a few months. Even this Rom was flashed 2 weeks ago, this just started last night when I drained the battery the first time to calibrate it, i put it on charge all night only to find it stuck on 75 % after 6 hours or so, when I unplugged the charger and turned on the phone, the battery drained to 25% and that is when all these strange things have started to happen :s
have you tried to wipe battery stats ??
you should do this AFTER calibrating the battery,
otherwise the battery can give false information due to it being confused about its actual percentage
Yes I did, and that has made things worse as the battery meter is now increasing and the phone vibrating after a while by itself when I have the charger plugged in :s .. I think I might need to reflash with a stock Gingerbread ROM and take it from there .. What do you suggest?
Hi, I'm having a weird problem. Last week I replaced my phone's battery. Everything was going fine till the first charge. The battery percentage isn't showing the right value.
After charging the device all night turned off. Battery shows only 79% of charge. If I let the phone charging turned on, it gets to 100%, but short after drops to 85% and then 79%.
First I thought it was a faulty battery. But I'm using it for a week now, and the device holds a day without a charge, I can even get 3 hours of sot.
I tried fully cicles of charge, to see if it's some kind of calibration, but nothing helps.
Any ideas?
Calibration apps or BBS?
Floydroider said:
Hi, I'm having a weird problem. Last week I replaced my phone's battery. Everything was going fine till the first charge. The battery percentage isn't showing the right value.
After charging the device all night turned off. Battery shows only 79% of charge. If I let the phone charging turned on, it gets to 100%, but short after drops to 85% and then 79%.
First I thought it was a faulty battery. But I'm using it for a week now, and the device holds a day without a charge, I can even get 3 hours of sot.
I tried fully cicles of charge, to see if it's some kind of calibration, but nothing helps.
Any ideas?
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Try battery calibration apps or use Better Battery Stats to find what's doing this!!