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I've been watching the preview video @ AndroidCentral I think they have covered the phone quite well.
There Neocore test show a score of 75 FPS - that 20 FPS more than the Samsung SGS/Vibrant.
Since the Samsung SGS/Vibrant comes with a PowerVR SGX 540 chipset (Device Magazine) which is the best out there along with 1GHz ARM Cortex A8 processor - whereas the Droid Pro comes with a PowerVR SGX 530 chipset (Motorola Developer site) how comes this baby is giving out a much better FPS rate?
Would like to hear your experienced views on this!
If you compare it the D2/D2G, DX, and Milestone 2 you will notice that the DP performance is better that those devices despite the same cpu/gpu combo(but less internal memory). So, from what I am reading most of it has to do with the lower HVGA screen vs the VGA screen of all aforementioned devices. Lower screen res means less work for the gpu.
Mackattack said:
If you compare it the D2/D2G, DX, and Milestone 2 you will notice that the DP performance is better that those devices despite the same cpu/gpu combo(but less internal memory). So, from what I am reading most of it has to do with the lower HVGA screen vs the VGA screen of all aforementioned devices. Lower screen res means less work for the gpu.
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This makes so much sense for improving battery life and plus what's the point on using such high res screens whereas the human eye can perceive only 200dpi.
Just a thought!
Personally I agree. It really makes me mad that I saw all these rave reviews on the Samsung Galaxy S phone's screens, but me personally I can't tell a difference between my Fascinate and my DPro, other than the fact the screen is smaller.
Maybe its time for me to see the eye doctor.
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HTC Sensation or Galaxy S2?
Torn between these dual core beasts.
Just a very small overview:
HTC:
Screen
Battery
Internal storage (1GB lol)
VGA Front Cam
RAM
Weight. 148 gr. Holy Moly. We should send the phone to fat ca...errr weight management retreat lol
screen resolution: qHD
HTC Sense
Galaxy:
All things HTC has red are better
The thing HTC has green
Easy decision for me.
I think Galaxy S2 is better.... at least in Korea.rep
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sensation is running gingerbread..
@OP, C'mon there are tons of threads to talk about this comparison use the damn search button !!
Sense vs TouchWiz if a slapped on interface matters, sense is lovely! Hardware wise SG2 wins.
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both are good phones and you cant go wrong with any. however. i believe the GS2 is better specd hardware. better GPU. better screen in terms of colors. there is no even lag in scrolling at the browser.
the only advantage you will have with the HTC if you call it an advantage is the HTC S 3.0 and i wouldnt call it an advantage.
besides. and the most important factor you need to consider. the HTC now is using a Locked bootloader. meaning you wont get custom roms for sure. and considering how the incredible S is been locked for 3 months now without any luck to open it. i would say avoid HTC phones for now
i will not even buy the HTC for 100$. locked bootloader = useless phone for me.
i learned that the hard way from the atrix. and never again.
Having a lower weight does not necessarily mean 'better'. I think build quality in terms of materials (partial reason of the higher weight) is another plus for the Sensation. On the other hand, I prefer the dimensions and shape of the S2.
Furthermore the Sensation's camera has an instant capture feature but the S2 cam has a pretty fast capture too.
Looking at all the + and - I think the S2 is the overall winner.
^^^
Very true, imagine when the sgs2 gets cm7 or darky rom!
It's blazing fast on stock!
Guitarfreak26 said:
^^^
Very true, imagine when the sgs2 gets cm7 or darky rom!
It's blazing fast on stock!
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I wouldn't want to put CM7 on that as the browser would loose any GPU acceleration and be as crappy as other dual core phone, I'll take it as it is with all the optimization from samsung included for performance and battery life
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
both are good phones and you cant go wrong with any. however. i believe the GS2 is better specd hardware. better GPU. better screen in terms of colors. there is no even lag in scrolling at the browser.
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We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.
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We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.
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what ???? isnt adreno 220 GPU is the same was used in Desire HD and Xperia Play ?
if so, thats more reason to avoid the Sensation. because that GPU is lower than the Nexus S GPU. let alone come close to SG2. that thing will do marathon around the Adreno 220 and that is based both trying to run Nintendo 64 Emulator at the same time same game.
hell i just hope you made a typo and you are not talking about that old horrible GPU :/
Here is a poll for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995752
I do not understand how HTC can build such a ****.
Do not or can not?
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
what ???? isnt adreno 220 GPU is the same was used in Desire HD and Xperia Play ?
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Nope thats the 205
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Nope thats the 205
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oh ok then. i thought its the same GPU. i was about to throw you out of the window lol
we will see. honestly i dont have high hopes for it because the 205 came after the hummingbird and still sucked compared to it.
Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
also see below:
mur76 said:
Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
also see below:
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Just want to say : HTC Sensation also has Gorilla Glass. And NFC is not yet confirmed on all models :/...
And also
PS : I Didn't add the SoC though the Mali-400(Galaxy S2) probably is going to be a better GPU, but we can't verify for now. And Bootloader is probably not locked on Galaxy S2 but for the HTC Sensation it is quite sure.
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mur76 said:
Is this thread still going on, frankly there is no competition with the SGS2, here's a brief summary:
The Galaxy S2 is out May 1st (phones4u will release on 27 Apr), it will be the king of superphones for a while yet: Most powerfull 1.2 Dual core CPU/GPU combo (yes much better than HTC Sensation), Thinnest phone in the world (8.49mm compared to the Sony Arc 8.7mm and Iphone 4 (around 9.2mm i believe), Best screen tech in the world (exclusive to Samsung - Super Amoled Plus) see below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334
MHL which is micro USB/HDMI in one, and lets you control the phone through a remote of a MHL enabled tv, Wifi direct - access your phone through wifi and any browser, the list is extensive, check out the comparison to its nearest competitor that was anounced recently(the HTC Sensation):
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3922
The SGS2 is an amazing phone, 1080p recording check out the video comparison here (click the comparison tool at the bottom to compare videos with iphone 4 and Nokia N8 - also youtube has many other SGS2 1080p samples):
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php
3d capabilities here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
many youtube videos detailing amazing things like motion control zoom in-out, face recognition lock screen, front cam is 2mp, better than most phones back camera,NFC, Gorilla Glass, etc...basically think of a feature and the SGS 2 will probably have it.
also see below:
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r there any vids showing the face recognition lock screen? I didnt know about that..seems like a good feature to have
saveferris said:
We don't know that yet, so far the benchmarks indicate that the Adreno 220 GPU inside is quicker than the Mali-400 in the Samsung, I still find it hard to believe considering the mali-400 is quad core, so maybe the benchmark is not up to date with quad-core graphics processor's.
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You cannot compare the number of cores on a GPU unless it is the same architecture, it doesn't make sense at all.
A single core GPU can easily be ten times faster than quad core GPU. It is just how they choose to arrange the GPU-architecture in order to have versions with different speeds.
In fact, even a 300$ gaming card for PC's is single core.
k87 said:
r there any vids showing the face recognition lock screen? I didnt know about that..seems like a good feature to have
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Don't be disgusted of womens because of this video, it's only to show face recognition!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6873r6Skm8
(Note: This read only thread continues from the discontinued public HTC One mega thread, for more general HTC discussion check the HTC Flagships - Mega Tech Discussion Thread)
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Official Specifications:
Android 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)
Sense 5.0 with BlinkFeed
4.7-inch Full HD 1080p SLCD3 @ 468PPI
Gorilla glass 2.0
1.7Ghz Quad Core Snapdragon 600 (krait 300 core)
2GB DDR2
32GB/64GB internal storage (no SD slot)
Full Metallic Unibody
MicroSIM
137.4x68.2x9.3mm/4mm (max/min)
143 grams with battery
2300 mAh Li-Polymer Embedded battery (non replacable)
Bluetooth 4.0 with aptX enabled
NFC Capable
Internal GPS antenna + GLONASS
Wi-Fi: IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n
Support consumer infrared remote control
micro-USB 2.0 (5-pin) port with mobile high-definition video link (MHL) for USB or HDMI connection
Camera:
HTC UltraPixel Camera (4MP)
BSI sensor, Pixel size 2.0 µm, Sensor size 1/3'
Dedicated HTC ImageChip™ 2
F2.0 aperture and 28 mm lens
Optical Image Stabilization (OIS)
Smart Flash: Five levels of flash automatically set by distance to subject
Front Camera: 2.1 MP, 880 wide angle lens with HDR capability
1080p Full HD video recording for both front and back cameras
HDR Video
Continuous shooting and VideoPic
Slow motion video recording with variable speed playback
HTC Zoe™ with HTC Zoe™ Highlights and HTC Zoe™ Share
Retouch with Object Removal, Group Retouch, and Sequence Shot
Sound:
Dual frontal stereo speakers with built-in amplifiers (HTC BoomSound™)
Studio-quality sound with Beats Audio™
HDR Microphone
Sense Voice
Network:
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: (optional)
EU: 800/1800/2600 MHz
US (AT&T): 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
US (TMO): 700/AWS MHz
US (Sprint): 1900 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 Mhz
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Official winner of ‘Global Mobile Award for Best Smartphone of 2013’ at MWC 2014>>
Official HTC One Website>>
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Introducing the new HTC One®, a new perspective on smartphones, press release>>
HTC One Wikipedia page>>
Anandtech's "Mega" HTC One review>>
I've never given any smartphone an editors choice award before, though I daily regret not giving the One S an award of some kind. For the HTC One I'm giving our Editors Choice Gold award, which is our second highest award. The One is an incredibly awesome device
I'm a big fan of the HTC One and can see myself using it for quite a while, even without seeing necessarily everything of its main upcoming contenders. It's a device which amazingly is built to the kind of specifications I'd want from a device — huge emphasis on camera, all metal construction with actively tuned antennas, and a powerful SoC inside.
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"The HTC One raised the bar for all smartphones with its gorgeous display, versatile camera and impeccable design. It's currently the standard by which all other smartphones are judged, and it remains the One to beat" Engadget
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My HTC One Semi Review, vs HTC One X - extras: Double Flip Cover & Media Link HD>>
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[GUIDE][SCRIPTS] How to Easily Unleash your HTC One gaming powers>>
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HTC Blog: Manage Photos Better with the New HTC One>>
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T3 Gadget Awards 2013: HTC One wins Phone of the Year, Design of the Year and Gadget of the Year>>
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How To Fix Wi-Fi connecting issues on the HTC One running Android 4.4.2>>
[OTA] HTC One 4.4.2 Update (EMEA) 4.12.401.8 (changelog)>>
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[OTA] HTC One Developer Edition 4.3 Update (USA) 3.22.1540.1 (changelog)>>
[GUIDE] Rumrunner S-Off Hboot for HTC One M7 International>>
HTC One "Vivid Blue" Edition Announced>>
One Adreno 320 GPU - Resolution Scaling GFX Bench tests>>
Adreno 320 GPU - OC GFX Bench tests>>
HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report, Asphalt 8>>
[OTA] 2.24.401.8 Changelog>>
HTC One supports Open GL ES 3.0 in the stock 4.2.2 OTA>>
Adreno 320 more details revealed>>
HTC One is highly repairable with special secret tool, says lead designer>>
Anandtech: Android 4.2.2 Update Rollout for HTC One Begins - We Take a Look>>
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HTC One Google Edition, kernel source released with device launch>>
HTC One, Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Play edition review roundup>>
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HTC One wins Gold at Computex 2013 design and innovation awards>>
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HTC One, Adreno 320 GPU scores better in Egypt HD (41fps vs 37fps) with the 2.17.40.1 update (4.2.2)>>
HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report Part III>>
HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report Part II>>
HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report Part I>>
Changelog for the leaked 2.17.401.1 update, JB 4.2.2>>
HTC Blog: HTC One with Nexus User Experience>>
Android Central: The best Android phone you can buy, as of June 2013>>
ElementalX, the HTC One best Gaming Kernel>>
[Resources] HTC One M7: Stock SD contents (205.1MB)>>
[INFO] UPDATED NON-ROOT METHOD: Identify the binning of the SoC on your HTC One>>
[INFO] How to root while preserving your stock files and still apply OTAs>>
Bryan Van Der Beek: A simple HTC One Camera Review>>
TechRadar: HTC One gets battery bump: become's TechRadar's third 5-star smartphone, Software update makes the One a 5 star hero>>
[PHOTOS] Share photos clicked from HTC One thread>>
Identify your unit batch using HTC's official tracking tool>>
[INFO] HTC One Serial code batch identification thread>>
The HTC One Design Story>>
HTC One Developer Edition Explained>>
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HTC One, First Adreno 320 GPU OC 450mhz results>>
HTC insists Nokia's injunction won't affect the One's current stock, new mics in the work>>
HTC One updated with camera enhancement suite and more in Europe (1.29.401.13)>>
Custom kernel succeed in using the HTC logo as a wakeup button>>
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HTC One supply issues improve 'significantly': J.P. Morgan>>
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Confirmed, Modern Combat 4 runs smoothly in full effects at native 1080p>>
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Stock ondemand governor and values on firmware 1.2x (new multi-core optimized CPU governor)>>
HTC One stock Adreno 320 GPU clocks revealed, 400mhz, can be increased up to 487mhz using custom kernels and fauxclock>>
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HTC CMO: HTC One pre-orders exceed target, Global availability Smooth by Mid April>>
Modaco: This is not the Sense you love to hate>>
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HTC One On The Street video (during SGS4 presentation)>>
Full quality version of the HTC One commercial video>>
Focus Taiwan: HTC One pre-orders exceed target>>
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Snapdragon 600's Adreno 320 against GPUs of the world, matches OCed 544MP3>>
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UltraPixel camera samples>>
Phonedog: HTC One Retail unit unboxing>>
Early thoughts regarding high end games on the HTC One and 1080p Adreno 320 devices>>
Qualcomm's performance MSM-DCVS governor included on the stock HTC One, default is ondemand>>
Amazing BoomSound demo video>>
HTC One Reviews - Part I (pre-release>>
Jon Choo: HTC On review, must read!>>
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HTC One UltraPixel camera review (pre-release software)>>
The Engadget Interview: VP of design Scott Croyle talks HTC One at MWC 2013>>
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But it was the show floor that swung it for HTC: "You only needed to look at the swaths of people clustered around the HTC stand to play with the One to see that this is where the buzz resides at the show this year."
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Gizmodo: MegaPixels Don't Matter>>
HTC One Ultrapixel Whitepaper (Product website)>>
HTC One Ultrapixel Whitepaper (PDF)>>
HTC One, Black version scratch test>>
More info about Adreno 320 GPU architecture>>
HTC One scoring 34fps on GL benchmark and current Android 4.1.2 firmware (no throttling)>>
Snapdragon 600/800's direct competitor: Nvidia's Tegra 4/4i Architecture and Performance revealed, ETA end of 2013>>
Engadget: Moving forward with leaning back (HTC one)>>
HTC One Revealing Industrial Design Interview>>
Early GL benchmark, slower than expected>>
HTC Blog: Excitement Builds for New HTC One>>
HTC Blog: Breaking the Megapixel Myth>>
HTC Blog: Calling all IR apps>>
HTC Blog: Making the new HTC One>>
HTC Blow: HTC Launches Blinkfeed with the new HTC One>>
HTC One takes display pixel density crown by cnet>>
HTC One: everything you need to know by the verge>>
HTC One design concepts>>
Blinkfeed and Peter Chou interview>>
HTC Sense 5.0 and BlinkFeed: Walkthrough (Video) by pocketnow.com>>
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Pre-Reveal/Related information:
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Official HTC One Videos by HTC:
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Hands-on:
Engadget: HTC One hands-on: design and hardware
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Engadget: Software Hands-on (Pictures)
Videos shot by NON-final devices:
ShyamSasi said:
HDR videos captured with the HTC One Ultrapixel camera sensor
Source: http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-are-the-samples-of-hdr-videos-from-the-htc-one-ultrapixel-camera/
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Photos and video samples taken with the One: http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/02/19/htc-one-photo-and-video-samples/
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Benchmarks: Firmware 2.24.401.8
Browser Benchmarks
Stock Browser Sunspider: 930ms
Google Chrome: 1162ms
General Performance Benchmarks
CF-Bench: 30247, 25839 27602
To provide some context, the International SGSS III scores: 23966, 6489, 13080; and HTC One X scores: 22988, 6003, 12797
Quadrant: 12536 (CPU: 37541, Mem: 111164, I/O 10734, 2D: 1023, 3D: 2216)
Antutu: 24665
GFXBenchmark
TRex HD offscreen: 15fps
Egypt HD offscreen: 42fps (3.22, 4.3 update)
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Accessories:
hamdir said:
Visualized: HTC folding and 'double-dip' colored cases for the One
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HTC official updates
HTC has shown a good record of providing Android updates, they commit updates up to 18 months of the device lifetime, have gone through at least four major Android updates you can see how the HTC One is their best ever software supported flagship
2013 - HTC One (Google Edition): JB 4.2.2 > JB 4.3 > KK 4.4 > KK 4.4.2 >
2013 - HTC One (Sense): JB 4.1.2 / Sense 5 > JB 4.2.2 / Sense 5 > JB 4.3 / Sense 5 / Sense 5.5 > KK 4.4 / Sense 5.5 > KK 4.4.2 / Sense 5.5 >
2012 - HTC One X: ICS 4.0.3 / Sense 4.0 > ICS 4.0.4 / Sense 4.1 > JB 4.1.1 / Sense 4+ > JB 4.2.2 / Sense 5.0 (Final)
2011 - HTC Sensation: GB 2.3.4 / Sense 3.0 > GB 2.3.5 / Sense 3.5 (beta) > ICS / Sense 3.6 (Final)
2010 - HTC Desire HD: Froyo 2.2 / Sense 2.1 > GB 2.3.3 / Sense 2.1 > GB 2.3.5 / Sense 3.0 > ICS (Cancelled)
2010 - HTC Desire: Eclair 2.1 / Sense 1.9 > Froyo 2.2 / Sense 2.0 > GB 2.3 / / Reduced Sense 2.1 (Final, standalone download)
HTC Development Support
HTC officially supports unlocking boot-loader and have already provided unlocks for most its older Android phones, however S-OFF is not officially supported
Unlocking support and kernel sources can be found on this site http://htcdev.com/
A Fresh Restart
After the Out of Topic trouble we faced in the old thread, the mods and myself decided to start a new a sticky mega information thread, this time in read only format
The new thread will post news strictly to HTC One (M7) hardware and software, it will also cover tests, reviews and finds about various topics like the Snapdragon 600 SOC, Adreno 320 GPU, Ultrapixel camera, Sense 5, Google Edition, future updates, Gaming performance and Custom kernels
If anybody feels i have missed a piece of important information you can send it to me via PM and i will be sure to give you the credits
For those who like to continue the more general HTC action from the old thread, I will be contributing to the following Off-topic thread by @DeSaint2:
HTC Flagships - Mega Tech Discussion Thread
The US Developer version of the HTC One will skip ahead to Android 4.3
Jason Mackenzie @JasonMacHTC 17 Aug
@jmwein we definitely care and want you to have great experience. 2.2 is minor update so decided to go straight to 4.3.
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Jason Mackenzie @JasonMacHTC 17 Aug
@jmwein because 4.3 is so close. And 2.2 offered limited customer benefit.
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This should mean the HTC One Sense Android 4.3 OTA is imminent
How to fix your HTC One LCD color tint
To do you so you will need to flash Faux' custom kernel starting v006 and it's companion app
Faux123 HTC One kernel
Faux123 Kernel Enhancement Pro app
Go to the screen tab and reduce the value you think is causing the tint, for example on my HTC One i always felt its a little on the green side, in order to reach the perfect white balance make sure to reduce in very small amounts and keep in mind it will only work after a reboot
here is my set up:
HTC One Sprint Offer: Buy One, get One free - $199.99 / 2years (August 2013)
Buy 1, get 1 free
Right now, buy the sleek and powerful HTC One®, and we'll give you a second One free.
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(reserved)
HTC Here's To Change official page
We can better understand the ideas behind the campaign ie: The HTC One, a game changer
HTC Blinkfeed - SCREENCHANGER
YOUR LIFE LIVES HERE
Up to the minute is too late. Get inside the minute with HTC Blinkfeed home screen. Loop into your social streams, breaking news, sports scores now, and real-time everything. Life happens now, and so does HTC Blinkfeed.
HTC Boomsound - AUDIOCHANGER
THE SWEET SOUND OF SOUND
Dual frontal stereo speakers with built-in amps project audio with attitude. Your music, your videos, your games, your content - unleashed with volume you deserve. Stop checking your decibels at the door and untame your audio with HTC Boomsound.
HTC Zoe - PHOTOCHANGER
STOP STANDING STILL
Don't capture memories, re-live them. Create hi-definition video shorts, screen tap your way to picture perfect results, and craft highlights from your footage in seconds. Make everyday moments amazing with HTC Zoe Photo.
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Size comparison between the three HTC One series phones - One Mini vs One (M7) vs upcoming One Max
also it appears a fingerprint scanner is being added to the Max
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4542/53217/1/
The Unwired: HTC STARTS SOFTWARE UPDATE ROLL-OUT FOR THE HTC ONE - ADDS SUPPORT FOR HTC MINI+ AND GOOGLE KEYBOARD - 2.24.401.8
HTC has just started to roll-out a minor firmware update for the HTC One, which already hit France. According to the provided information, the v2.24.401.8 update, which only is 32 MB small, is said to add compatibility for the upcoming HTC Mini+ remote control as well as the original Google Android keyboard, which is available from the Android Google Play market as a free download. If HTC has now started to roll-out a minor firmware update, which contains support for the HTC Mini+, it shouldn't take too long anymore to see it released in Europe, even if HTC has yet not officially announced it but all we have is the::unwired's earlier observation of a software update as well as Clove's later blog post of the expected launch.
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Android Authority: Android 4.3 coming to HTC One and Droid DNA by end of September, exec tweets
@JasonMacHTC: Lots of questions re 4.3 release for One. We r wrking hard (needs cert) to release 4.3 across all US, Canada skus by end Sept. DNA as well.
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https://twitter.com/jasonmachtc/status/369542700447453184
Latest HTC One 2.24.401.8 OTA released by @mike1986. as pure stock odexed ROM
[ROM] HTC One *STOCK* ROM | 2.24.401.8 | Jelly Bean | HTC Sense 5
update: uploaded now
HTC One 2.24.401.8 OTA is now pushing for the Europe WWE region
(thanks @Evilus for the screens)
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(some units received it as 2.24.401.9 such as CID: HTC_j15)
picard47 said:
I can confirm that the official google keyboard works like a charm.
Update: I think a kernel update as well. 3.4.10-g445d072 to 3.4.10-g28df0d6
Now you can open maps etc. directly from the contact window. I believe that didn't work before the update.
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HTC Mini+
For those wondering about the HTC Mini+, it's a remote control for the latest HTC devices
more info here>>
Benchmarks: HTC One Firmware 2.24.401.8 - Android 4.2.2 (updated in OP)
CF bench:
Quadrant:
Antutu:
Sunspider, Stock browser:
Sunspider, Chrome:
GFX Bench 2.7.2:
A really thorough HTC One hardware review from the ARHD Blog
ARHD Blog: HTC One review - Part 2: Hardware
Some highlights:
The HTC One is considered by many to be the Android flagship phone of 2013, and has topped the PhoneDog Smartphone Rankings weekly since March 31st. This not only makes it one of the most successful HTC phones of all time, it also means it has been at the #1 spot for longer than even the immensely popular Apple iPhone 5.
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It is a real beauty of engineering, with a sleek aluminium casing exceeding even the quality of the iPhone 5, with a superior hardness rating. The unibody polycarbonate body of the HTC One X is a thing of the past, with each individual One casing taking 200 minutes to manufacture.
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Photos are processed with the HTC ImageChip 2. This allows features such as 60FPS video capture and HDR video.
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When compared to the output from the Galaxy S4 or iPhone 5, the difference in quality is night and day. No phone to date can match the HTC One for sound quality. Playing for example racing games on HTC One is a really great experience. Stereo system is just amazing.
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The black bezel around the 4.7 inch 1080p (468 ppi) SuperLCD 3 screen is invisible with the screen off, which results in a great edge-to-edge effect.
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However, S600 seems to have enough power to supply, because the speed and fluidity of the HTC One is something to be admired. Every system app can be launched in under 2 seconds, and the overall experience feels very snappy. In fact, the phone feels faster than Galaxy S4, which experiences many micro lags caused by its TouchWiz custom UI. The HTC One doesn't seem to lag at all. The only instance is caused by Android: poor scrolling in some apps.
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With the new Snapdragon 800 processors due to be included in phones starting September, the 600 will soon be minorly outdated, but it is still an excellent choice. Bundled with this is the Adreno 320 GPU. This is one of the best GPUs currently available, and beats the PowerVR SGX 544MP3 found in the Galaxy S4. The iPhone 5 also uses a PowerVR, and due to it’s smaller screen size and resolution, this phone will generally play games smoother than on the HTC One, however at the cost of screen size.
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One of the main issues which HTC had to tackle during the designing process of the HTC One was a how to ensure the device wan't susceptible to capacitive detuning, where the human hand would stop the radio form functioning correctly. An example of this was the grip of death experienced by the iPhone 4. HTC solved this issue in a unique and clever way: the antennas tune themselves actively in order to ensure the best Standing Wave Ratio and to match impedance during the presence of a hand or case. HTC introduced a new antenna feeding structure to ensure that attenuation doesn't affect the overall antenna performance regardless of how the HTC One is held in the hand. This active antenna tuning is a first for 2013. The actual antennas HTC uses are the metal strips at the top and bottom of the device.
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In conclusion, the HTC One has proven itself to be top of the Android class, and thoroughly deserves its extended period as PhoneDog #1 smartphone. The build quality is second to none, and the overall specs definitely don't fall short. On paper, the phone is a beast, but in the hand it's more of a beauty.
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Hardware Summary:
+ High-end Snapdragon 600 SoC
+ 2GB of RAM memory
+ Impressive camera capabilities with HTC Zoe™ feature
+ IR (infra-red spectroscopy)
+ BoomSound™ stereo speakers
+ 2300 mAh battery
+ Excellent full HD SLCD3 screen with 468PPI
+ Next generation 802.11ac Wi-Fi modem
+ GNSS support
+ Effective cooling system with aluminium unibody
- No LPDDR3 RAM memory
- No Gorilla Glass™ 3
- Only two capacitive buttons instead of three
- Under-clocked CPU (from 1.9 to 1.7 GHz)
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HTC One Simple Gaming Boost scripts - Root
While the HTC One mostly ramps up the CPU pretty well on it's own for the majority of (optimized) games, certain games still need a good old fashioned boost to the CPU governor, you can figure out these games when they fluctuate between very smooth fps and laggy for no obvious reason (like lagging in non detailed areas)
Examples of such games are Ripetide GP2, Beach Buggy Blitz, Real Racing 3 and Iron Man 3
Use the attached very simple scripts to boost your CPU quickly before you game and then unboost when you are done
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HTC One Adreno 320 GPU - OC GFX Bench tests
By default the GPU is slightly underclocked at 400mhz, using custom kernels it can be easily unclocked to 450mhz (same as the stock clock on the SGS4) or go further to 487mhz
However after 450mhz there is a relation between the GPU And CPU
CPU 1728mhz, GPU 400mhz (stock 2.24.401.8)
CPU 1300mhz, GPU 450mhz
CPU 1500mhz, GPU 450mhz
CPU 1728mhz, GPU 450mhz
CPU 1728mhz, GPU 487mhz
CPU 1890mhz, GPU 487mhz
CPU 2109mhz, GPU 487mhz
18fps / 46fps are the highest GFX scores i could achieve on my HTC One
Going with higher CPU clocks and GPU 487mhz will not yield any benefit it will score the same
Interestingly going with extreme GPU clocks like 533mhz will bring performance crashing all the way down
Anfroud Authority: HTC One: How to master BlinkFeed
Conclusion
The HTC One’s BlinkFeed app is a cool feature that snugly packs
all your favorite content into one page. It is one of the big
reasons that many users love their HTC One, although, arguably,
it’s also one of the big reasons that some users shy away from
the HTC One.
While BlinkFeed is very easy to master, the app’s inability to
accommodate custom media sources frequently cause me to
believe that other similarly natured apps actually work better
and has better flexibility. Though, on the other hand, it’s this
lack of flexibility that makes BlinkFeed easy to master and easy
to use.
Lastly, while BlinkFeed may seem pervasive at first, you can
actually dismiss it from view by setting a different main
homescreen or by using a custom launcher — either of which
doesn’t remove the app from your system. For the latter, you
can take the geeky route: flash a custom ROM.
What do you think of BlinkFeed? Do you use it at all? Or, do you
prefer a different third-party app instead, and if so, what app?
Share your BlinkFeed experiences with us by sounding off in the
comments.
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Still Number 1 for both the Expert's and People's Choice
PhoneDog: Official Smartphone Rankings - week 76
PhoneDog (@PhoneDog) tweeted at 9:16 PM on Wed, Aug 21, 2013: Not budging, the HTC One is still #1 on the Official Smartphone Rankings! Vote for your favorite, http://t.co/w6kmUUgOrn (https://twitter.com/PhoneDog/status/370248003300253696)
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HTC/Adreno GPU comparative (native onscreen)
HTC Desire HD, Adreno 205, WVGA, GFX bench
3.5fps, TRex, onscreen
Desire 600, Adreno 203, QHD, GFX bench
4.1fps / 10.2fps, TRex / Egypt HD, onscreen
Desire 500, Adreno 203, WVGA, GFX bench
4.7fps / 11.5fps, TRex / Egypt HD, onscreen
HTC Sensation, Adreno 220, QHD, GFX bench
5.8fps / 16.3fps, TRex / Egypt HD, onscreen
HTC One X+, T37, 720p, GFX bench
5.8fps / 17.3fps, TRex / Egypt HD, onscreen
HTC One Mini, Adreno 305, 720p, GFX bench
9.3fps / 24.2fps, TRex / Egypt HD, onscreen
HTC One S, Adreno 225, QHD, GFX bench
11.3fps / 28.4fps, TRex / Egypt HD, onscreen
HTC One (M7), Adreno 320, 1080p, GFX bench (stock underclocked)
15fps / 40fps, TRex / Egypt HD, onscreen
HTC One (M7), Adreno 320, 1080p, GFX bench (450mhz unlocked)
17fps / 45fps, TRex / Egypt HD, onscreen
LG G2, Adreno 330, 1080p GFX bench
23.7fps / 52.0fps (59fps vsync off), TRex / Egypt HD, onscreen
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Update: If you download this game from your 3.x ROM with ES 3.0 drivers it will download an improved version with Anti-Aliasing and better color precision, explained in this post
HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report, Asphalt 8 (tested on 2.24.401.8)
This game runs in sub 1080p, around 720p judging from the 1:1 snaps, this game features built-in graphics settings and by default it's set to medium, which can be raised to high, the only difference between the two modes are the added gameloft style lens flare reflections and motion blur, equally medium mode suffers from some dithering and reduced precision in shaders
Performance wise, it runs well in both modes most but suffers from random fps dips, so it joins the rank of games in need of CPU governor boost, once boosted it runs extremely smooth, so make sure to use my
HTC One Simple Gaming Boost scripts - Root
If you are using stock kernel it runs extremely well with the above script until it hits the temperature threshold and throttles the GPU, to fix this you need to either disable ThermalD or use custom kernels like Faux or Elemental X
Medium - Scaled 1080p (dithering)
Medium - Scaled 1080p - Boost (no motion blur, no lens reflections)
Medium 1:1 (dithering)
High - Scaled 1080p (no dithering)
High - Scaled 1080p - Boost (+ motion blur, + lens reflections)
High - Scaled 1080p - Flares (+ motion blur, + lens reflections)
High - 1:1 (no dithering)
Fore more info about Asphalt 8 check this review at TouchArcade
Great article on AA showing the differences between the Nexus 6 and other devices in the phablet category.
To sum it up:
- The Nexus 6 has a great display to body ratio. It's only (slightly) beat by the LG G3 and Huawei Ascend Mate 7.
- The Nexus 6, as you probably know by now, has the top-of-the-line specs. Nothing really compares with it except the Note 4, which has similar specs.
- The Nexus 6 is slightly bigger than the Note 4 (Differences in mm: 5.8 x 4.4 x 1.5) but manages to fit in a display that is .26 inches larger and front facing stereo speakers.
I would probably say that the Nexus 6's biggest competitor is the OnePlus One. It offers high-end specs, not quite as high-end as the Note 4 but the differences are negligible. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a more premium build (in my opinion), OIS and is launching with Android L as opposed to waiting more than three months until the OnePlus One receives the L update. Furthermore, the Nexus 6 is going to be on more carriers, will probably have much better customer service, is easily available (once it's actually released) and hopefully won't be riddled with the bugs.
However, the Nexus 6 is twice as much as the OPO - $350 as opposed to $700 for the same amount of storage. Money talks...
Now the real question: The other flagships that are being compared to the Nexus 6 all offer something additional. For example, the Note 4 has an SPen and the Mate 7 also has a fingerprint sensor. The LG G3 and Note 4 both have removable battery, microsd support and multi-window modes. Are you willing to compromise these extra features to have stock android?
Source: AndroidAuthority
No fingerprint scanner is a bummer. I use corporate email on my Nexus 5 and the compliance software makes me have a lockscreen password which is a PITA. No patterns are allowed. iPhone 6 and 5S users can use the fingerprint scanner to bypass the password.
I'm considering the N6 as an upgrade from my much beloved N5, but there's two things that I need to see from the N6 before making the purchase.
#1- The amoled display. Recent offerings from Motorola have had 'middle of the road' amoled screens when compared to Samsung's recent amoled displays (Comparing the Moto X 2014 to a SGS5 or Note 4). If that big amoled is sub-par, I will pass.
#2- The camera. Again, this is the track record of the Nexus line having a less than favorable camera when compared to competing phones. I'm also not sold on the dual ring led flash right around the sensor (it creates red eye if you are shooting people - seen on the Moto X 2014)
What's weird is that when compared to the Note 4 $100 more out of pocket ($649 for 32gb N6 and $749 for 32gb Note 4 - basing pricing from T-Mobile) really does get you quite a bit more.
(Perhaps) better display (more color accurate/brighter)
Better camera (16mp vs 13mp) and better ff (2.0mp vs 3.7mp) camera - I know, it's not all about the mp, but the Note 4's camera has received a lot of praise for shooting in all lighting conditions
S Pen
MicroSD/removable battery (extends device life)
IR blaster
Fingerprint scanner
The decision isn't as easy as it was with getting the N5. It's not the size, it's the price. I just can't stand Samsung and Touchwiz, and with the N6 getting Wifi Calling for T-Mobile... Ugh. If the display and or the camera turn out to be disappointing perhaps I will sit this round and wait for the first 64 bit nexus phone next year.
Poor Graphics on Nexus 6?
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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All appleinsider did there was read a benchmark result
Turns out from the note 4 reviews that it handles games beautifully
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All appleinsider did there was read a benchmark result
Turns out from the note 4 reviews that it handles games beautifully
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Can you please add any benchmarks (FPS preferably) that corroborate this (I mean 30 fps is beautiful, but 50+ fps is what I would expect from a flagship)?
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Can you please add any benchmarks (FPS preferably) that corroborate this (I mean 30 fps is beautiful, but 50+ fps is what I would expect from a flagship)?
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Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Thanks! I will wait for a more thorough review when Nexus 6 comes out. I will probably get a Nexus 9 now as I don't have any tablet, and the 192 core kepler is built for graphics!
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Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Note the difference in display resolution. If you've ever done PC benchmarking, you'll know that plays a huge difference....
Luxferro said:
Note the difference in display resolution. If you've ever done PC benchmarking, you'll know that plays a huge difference....
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Without a doubt, that's why I thought I'd better list them, good thing a lot of Android games give us a resolution slider
Far_SighT said:
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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No Android phone can top the iPhone when it comes to gaming. That's the primary reason why I always have an iPhone as well as Android. Playing the same game on my iPhone 6 and my Nexus 5, they always look and run better on the iPhone. Take a benchmark game like MC5- on Android a lot of the effects are turned off and it still runs better on the iPhone. Even the 5s had better gaming/graphics performance than the N5. I'd imagine it'll be the same thing with the N6.
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Far_SighT said:
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
Also note that the N6 camera sensor is NOT THE SAME as Moto X 2014 camera.
N6 camera sensor is IMX 214, source: http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html
This is the same camera sensor as One Plus One, source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...mx214-6-lenses-and-low-light-performance.456/
Moto X 2014 camera sensor is IMX 135, source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...MX135-sensor-and-more-daytime-samples_id60299
However, the Note 4 is using newer camera sensor IMX 240, source: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/08/21...es-16mp-side-touch-wide-selfie-and-much-more/
So, the Nexus 6 camera should perform better than the Moto X 2014, while it might not be as good as Note 4, from sensor model perspective.
Then the deciding factor would be the camera "software"
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Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
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Thanks. It seems N9 is the way to go for media consumption, considering it's GPU performance is the best available (afa i know). Besides, N6 price seems overkill to me. They could have stuck with 1080p. At 6 inches, I doubt anyone has the eyes to see the difference.
1080P 6in a foot away from your face, you may be able to tell. But I'd agree that the resolution is over kill. A silly decision. It's just a waste of performance and battery life to run quadHD.
I have committed to nexus for obvious reasons. There are things I get with the Nexus line I can't get anywhere else. I don't want a 6" phone. But it's the current nexus.
I'll wait for reviews to hit (mainly anandtech) and see if there are any glaring issues.
I love my nexus 5 so much I could use it for another year or until Ara hits. Only complaint is battery size.
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No Android phone can top the iPhone when it comes to gaming. That's the primary reason why I always have an iPhone as well as Android. Playing the same game on my iPhone 6 and my Nexus 5, they always look and run better on the iPhone. Take a benchmark game like MC5- on Android a lot of the effects are turned off and it still runs better on the iPhone. Even the 5s had better gaming/graphics performance than the N5. I'd imagine it'll be the same thing with the N6.
Sent from my iPhone 6 using Tapatalk
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agroan05 said:
Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
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You can't compare GPU benchmarks done at much different resolutions. It has a huge difference on FPS.
To quote one of your links:
Once again, the Galaxy Note 4's GPU performance line up quite closely with what we expect from the Adreno 420. However, due to the higher 1440p resolution the performance improvements from the Adreno 420 are relatively small or none at all unless the application renders at 1080p.
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You can't say their SoC dominates the 805 unless you do an apples to apples comparison using the same resolution. If you want to say the iPhone 6 performs better, than X you can. But you should note differences in resolution.
msal said:
I would probably say that the Nexus 6's biggest competitor is the OnePlus One. It offers high-end specs, not quite as high-end as the Note 4 but the differences are negligible. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a more premium build (in my opinion), OIS and is launching with Android L as opposed to waiting more than three months until the OnePlus One receives the L update. Furthermore, the Nexus 6 is going to be on more carriers, will probably have much better customer service, is easily available (once it's actually released) and hopefully won't be riddled with the bugs.]
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I had the OnePlus One and the Moto X 2014, which is what the Nexus 6 design is based on.
The primary reason why I sold both of my OnePlus are:
-Design
-Signal/call quality.
The phone wasn't comfortable to use due to it's design. The signal quality simply wasn't as good. It take a while for me to drive to work and I tend to stream YouTube podcasts over LTE while driving, I didn't get very good LTE signal with the OPO so I had to use 3G most of the time, even then it wasn't as smooth experience as the Moto X 2013 and 2014.
The OnePlus is a great device for the money no doubt, but Motorola design is my favorite at this point, it's wasn't that much smaller than the OPO but it's so much more comfortable to hold and use. The OnePlus have this somewhat "sharp" edges and it wasn't comfortable in the pocket.
The Nexus 6 uses the same Sony sensor as the OPO, while some people didn't think highly of it, I personally got amazing results from it, especially if you know how to tune your shutter speed and ISO level. I love the 4K DCI recording on it too, which unfortunately will not be available on the Nexus 6.
Also you have to deal with yellow screen issue which I got, I had to put the phone under UV light to fix it, but it didn't completely remove it. And if you have issues and need to do an RMA, I heard the experience wasn't very good. Motorola have some complains too, but not the at the same level as OPO.
I like what OnePlus have to offer so I'll look forward to their next phone. But honestly, I already know that most likely it will also be based off whatever the next Oppo flagship phone is, except with corner cuts, and it's probably going to be very big with capacitive buttons, which is not for me. The Nexus 6 is too big for me too, but I'm mainly interested in it to use as a tablet and back up phone, not as my daily driver.
italia0101 said:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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The N4 and N6 are running over 50% of the iPhone at a huge increase in pixels pushed......
They need to show apples and apples. If they all ran at 1080 the N4 and N6 would run circles around the iPhone 6
Luxferro said:
You can't compare GPU benchmarks done at much different resolutions. It has a huge difference on FPS.
To quote one of your links:
You can't say their SoC dominates the 805 unless you do an apples to apples comparison using the same resolution. If you want to say the iPhone 6 performs better, than X you can. But you should note differences in resolution.
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Actually maybe half of those GPU benchmarks are "off screen". Which should remove any resolution handicap.
However, you are right. I discussed the SOC's themselves and then switched to device performance.
But the A8 is a serious chip. It competes with and possibly beats the 805 outright even when resolution is taken out of the equation.
No mention of Droid Turbo/Moto X Play?
This is looking like it will be the spec king of 2014.
Same specs as N6, but smaller screen (5.2), bigger battery (3900mah), and better camera (21mp)
LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
Benchmarks doesn't bother me. The G3 didn't do to we'll either, and mine is definitely fast enough and are more or less lag free since the lollipop update. Still love the G3 so I'll think I pass this year. But I definitely like the looks of the G4 and I'm really excited to see how much better the screen is and how well the camera will perform in manual mode [emoji106] [emoji2]
Benchmarks won't show the really benefits. The device is really smooth and can open apps as fast as any other flagship. I mean the camera app can open in 0.6 secs and take a phot at the same time. If you do not care about superficial numbers the device won't disappoint as a daily driver.
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The scores aren't surprising. The G4 will have only 2 A57s compared to the S6, and the GPU is noticeably different from the 810. There's also LDDR3 in the G4 while the S6 uses LDDR4 & a very fast eMMc chip.
In normal usage I imagine most won't notice the core count. Because of the G4's high price I hope someone can compare its speed side by side with a zenfone 2 or even another Snapdragon 615/800/805/etc.
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Currently using LG G2 and bit disappointed when I see poorest battery result from G3 so skip and since than waiting for G4, I am Enthusiast photographer and using Nikon D7100 with costliest Sigma £596 for lens only with F1.8 fo it’s very interesting to see how £750 DSLR + £596 lens compared with G4 or P8 LOL, I know that recent techno is not even nearby DSLR quality, I would surely buy if Camera and battery of G4 perform better than Huawei P8, I don't believe or worry much in benchmarks figure as most of them are not noticeable in real life, As I don't play high graphics intense game, I believe LG must have done through test before choosing 808 and if it for better battery life against figures than I prefer Battery life, I am absolutely pleased with performance, Screen quality, Earphone sound of G2 if it would have been released exact thing in recent time I would still prefer to buy, When I see S6 live particularly in gold/silver colour it seems to me as really overdone and cheap design, it remind me things when in 2010-11 when lot of folks specially girls prefer to put shiny and mirror looking screen protector in from of their iPhone so they do makeup on the go, S6 is less than evolution and glass and reflective things is not a big achievement or breakthrough BTW it’s subjective matter and I know more crowd following iPhone/Samsung trend than LG but I don't want to join unwise and hypnotized crowd, I think design wise P8 is better than S6 but still can't decide which one look better P8 or G4?
There is a benchmark video out. The G3 is right next to the G4 while the G4s score wasn't amazingly high it was still a decent score for a flagship and it was leaps and bounds faster than the poor G3. The link is below. Sad fact, it scores better than my G Flex 2. More than likely because of thermal throttling :/
https://youtu.be/QGMeH5jSLo4
Slaughter59 said:
LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
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Not good?
I read "First impressions are good, the Korean manufacturer seems to have made the right choices, abandoning the Snapdragon 810 and developing its own photo sensor."
I don't sweet these at all. I want to use it in my hand and see myself as that is more real than anything.
According with Qualcomm:
Adreno 418 (S808): 20% better than 330
Adreno 420 (S805): 40% better than 330
Adreno 430 (S810): 70-80% better than 330
Overall, The S805 is better than S808 in heavy tasks but I understand the 64bit thing marketing. Bad choice by LG going with S808
Slaughter59 said:
LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
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Too me, the benchmarks here look fine. If you look at the T-Rex and Manhattan tests for the onscreen (the tests that matter) the G4 is only 6 and 2 fps behind the S6 (the only smartphone with the same resolution)
jeky82 said:
Too me, the benchmarks here look fine. If you look at the T-Rex and Manhattan tests for the onscreen (the tests that matter) the G4 is only 6 and 2 fps behind the S6 (the only smartphone with the same resolution)
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That 6 and 2 fps may translate into bigger differences in real world gaming performance as GFX benchmark is a unrealistically heavy GPU benchmark.
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
i9100g user said:
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
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You just echoed my mind. If I see the G4 that way [compared to G3] the benchmark stuffs should not be much of a headache/nightmare.
onlinejobwork said:
Currently using LG G2 and bit disappointed when I see poorest battery result from G3 so skip and since than waiting for G4, I am Enthusiast photographer and using Nikon D7100 with costliest Sigma £596 for lens only with F1.8 fo it’s very interesting to see how £750 DSLR + £596 lens compared with G4 or P8 LOL, I know that recent techno is not even nearby DSLR quality, I would surely buy if Camera and battery of G4 perform better than Huawei P8, I don't believe or worry much in benchmarks figure as most of them are not noticeable in real life, As I don't play high graphics intense game, I believe LG must have done through test before choosing 808 and if it for better battery life against figures than I prefer Battery life, I am absolutely pleased with performance, Screen quality, Earphone sound of G2 if it would have been released exact thing in recent time I would still prefer to buy, When I see S6 live particularly in gold/silver colour it seems to me as really overdone and cheap design, it remind me things when in 2010-11 when lot of folks specially girls prefer to put shiny and mirror looking screen protector in from of their iPhone so they do makeup on the go, S6 is less than evolution and glass and reflective things is not a big achievement or breakthrough BTW it’s subjective matter and I know more crowd following iPhone/Samsung trend than LG but I don't want to join unwise and hypnotized crowd, I think design wise P8 is better than S6 but still can't decide which one look better P8 or G4?
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Until we have a true lens zoom phone (kind of physically hard to do), I am not a big fan of using phones for main photos. Nothing cracks me up more though than the media or some posters talking about photography and then actually review the digital zoom on phones, which is literally just digital zooming of the original focal point. No different than taking the picture and later post zooming the pictures.
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i9100g user said:
That 6 and 2 fps may translate into bigger differences in real world gaming performance as GFX benchmark is a unrealistically heavy GPU benchmark.
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
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The gpu in the 801 choked with 1440p and one of the reasons for the heat, judder and battery life impact. The 808's gpu can handle 1440p and is within the mean of it's threshold of performance, but the 801 was at the very top of it's ceiling for 1440p- hence the issues. Well, that and the gosh awful lcd technology used for the the display on the G3. LG took a semi efficient 1080p design and shrunk it to a very inefficient 1440p on the G3.
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Jonfensu said:
According with Qualcomm:
Adreno 418 (S808): 20% better than 330
Adreno 420 (S805): 40% better than 330
Adreno 430 (S810): 70-80% better than 330
Overall, The S805 is better than S808 in heavy tasks but I understand the 64bit thing marketing. Bad choice by LG going with S808
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What else could they do besides wait about six more months? Apple and Samsung have secured most other chipset fab production and the only other option is the second tier chips that are in the cheaper devices. The road map was to use the 810, but the poor thermals with the 810 resulted in going with the 808 (810 light). The other option was go with the 805, but spec chasing will not allow that. The 808 was a compromise, but LG is hoping the design and camera offsets this for the spec and media hounds.
Qualcomm riding shotgun at the LG press event was very telling of the heat the chipset maker is in right now.
Some more bencmarks, in Swedish but just look at the graphs.
http://www.nordichardware.se/Smartp...och-prestandatester-pa-lgs-laedertelefon.html
Gambit2K said:
Some more bencmarks, in Swedish but just look at the graphs.
http://www.nordichardware.se/Smartp...och-prestandatester-pa-lgs-laedertelefon.html
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Looks better because the HTC one M9 is missing.
BillyxAllen said:
There is a benchmark video out. The G3 is right next to the G4 while the G4s score wasn't amazingly high it was still a decent score for a flagship and it was leaps and bounds faster than the poor G3. The link is below. Sad fact, it scores better than my G Flex 2. More than likely because of thermal throttling :/
https://youtu.be/QGMeH5jSLo4
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Was it just me or did the G4 burn through the benchmark faster than any of the other phones even though it started last? What's with that? Is it a difference in user (interface) difference? Does this translate to a better performing phone overall that cannot be quantified with a benchmark?
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I noticed that and was wondering the same thing tbh
Any significant reason why it finished the test faster? I'm hoping this device will open apps without any lag. That's the main thing I hate. If I open an app I want it to be fast/instant, which is what I'm hoping an optimized android like this will do.
Side question. If I disable two of the A57 cores in an 810 would that solve thermal issues? Wondering if it's worth my time to do
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Any significant reason why it finished the test faster? I'm hoping this device will open apps without any lag. That's the main thing I hate. If I open an app I want it to be fast/instant, which is what I'm hoping an optimized android like this will do.
Side question. If I disable two of the A57 cores in an 810 would that solve thermal issues? Wondering if it's worth my time to do
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In theory it should do.... I suppose there is a kernel in the m9 thread for disabling the cores....
Thanks! . I'll look into it. I have a G Flex 2 though v.v