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Hi all, I'm currently using the Galaxy S5 and looking to upgrade to the G4. Anyone has switched to the G4 from Samsung's high end phones like the S6 or the Note 4? Can you give some impressions and comparisons (Camera (most important), screen, performance)? Thanks a lot!

From Note 4.... The G4 should crush the S5 except water resistance

I did it after one month with s6 edge, battery in s6 edge is so bad, other things are ok and almost identical, no lags on both phones. Camera is identical.

I came from the S5 to the G4 and haven't even had a second thought on going back
Camera is amazing. UX 4.0 beats Touchwiz (in my opinion better than S6 as well, my wife has that). Just takes some getting used to the no "hard" home buttons and the power/volume buttons on the back rather than the side but once you do it's actually more convenient knowing a case can protect them even more and are less susceptible to being damaged

I came from galaxy s3. Well, it's obvious that the g4 performs wayyyy much better

Note 4 to G4 here. So far, seems better in all aspects. Only one it might not beat the Note 4 in is battery, but I haven't had for long enough to really see how it averages. Camera is better. UI seems cleaner and easier to use. Love double tap on, as I was used to it with the HTC M8 and missed it on the Note 4. Only weird thing I had to get used to was in the cam app, the 3 software buttons don't show up (have to hit the back button in the camera view).
LG really did well with this phone

Thanks all , would love to hear more from Note 4 and S6 users too!

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I came from galaxy s3. Well, it's obvious that the g4 performs wayyyy much better
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I made same switch. And yeah, the G4 does seem to have just slightly better performance.

Master619 said:
Thanks all , would love to hear more from Note 4 and S6 users too!
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I'll post more as I get to use phone more. Just got yesterday. So far, it's really nice. I had almost written LG off after the Optimus G. Glad I didn't. So far:
PROs for G4 vs Note 4
Lighter. Also noticeably smaller despite screen being almost same size.
Better Camera
UI - UX 4.0 really is nice and light
No Keyboard FCs! Man that was annoying in Lollipop Note 4...keyboard FC but stayed on screen, had to reboot to get rid of
Double tap on and Knock unlock code
Themes
Settings app broken down into proper sections (Note 4 Settings scrolls all day with all settings on a single scrolling list)
Can get a real Glass Screen Protector without the dreaded Halo effect around all edges (Note 4 curved edge to screen caused this no matter which glass protector I used (tried 6).
64 bit processor
Faster in real world use
Cool offers of free stuff from LG
About $200 cheaper
PROs for Note 4
Stylus (I only used a handful of times....was more of a gimmick to me)
Better battery life?
Fingerprint scanner and heartrate monitor (I hardly used either, as the fingerprint scanner required an odd hand placement for such a large phone)
Physical Home button
Just different between the 2:
Home button and volume button placements (I prefer LG after using for a little bit)
Both have IR blaster, large beautiful screens, expandable storage, 3GB RAM, excellent wireless radios.

Switched over from a Samsung Galaxy S4...I traded it in for $100 to At&T so my G4 only cost me $99 + tax on my upgrade option. Loving it so far, praying for root to get rid of the bloatware. :fingers-crossed:

I did. I have the S6e at home and I intend to switch back and fourth. The G4 feels so much bigger. The camera quality is NOT the same and I have tested them both in the same scenarios. The s6 is brighter and crisper than the G4. Stock launchers is far better and faster than TW. TW began to lag on my S6, so I installed Nova Prime and it was super fast again. Battery on the G4 is 10 times better than the S6. I got 36 hrs on my G4 and still had 25% left.

I came from a rooted Note 3. First non-phone-specific: I REALLY REALLY miss root. The ability to block ads is missed and I have to wait to restore all of my titanium backups that I have sitting till the G4 is rooted.
As far as performance goes, my Note 3 was pretty snappy. I haven't noticed very many differences in performance yet. But I've been waiting for the battery to get a few cycles before I really start pushing performance with games and stuff.
Other than that, I don;t really miss my Note 3. The G4 is smaller, looks nicer has a better (but only slightly smaller) screen. I kind of miss AMOLED screen tech for battery and contrast, but everything else makes up for it. Do not regret it.:good:

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I did. I have the S6e at home and I intend to switch back and fourth. The G4 feels so much bigger. The camera quality is NOT the same and I have tested them both in the same scenarios. The s6 is brighter and crisper than the G4. Stock launchers is far better and faster than TW. TW began to lag on my S6, so I installed Nova Prime and it was super fast again. Battery on the G4 is 10 times better than the S6. I got 36 hrs on my G4 and still had 25% left.
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I have an S6e as well and agree with you. I had a Note 4 before the S6e and now the G4 and it feels downright massive compared to the S6e. The Note 4 felt smaller to me because it was thinner but it was a big device as well. I got rid of my Note 4 because of it's size, I ride motorcycles almost daily and the damned thing was never comfortable in my pocket, it was just too big and rectangle and flat. The S6e is perfect size for me in that regard but I really miss having a larger display (had a Nexus 6 before the Note). Because of the slight curvature of the back of the G4 it makes just enough of a difference in my jeans that it doesn't dig the corners of the phone into my leg when I squeeze the tank in turns, etc.
Cameras between S6e and G4 seem pretty similar to me but there is a difference but I attribute that to Samsung doing a better job of processing the jpg file that's output than LG with the G4 having the ace in the hole of giving you the raw file you can subsequently edit yourself. I know that's not what most people want to do (myself included for phone snaps), but I think the LG camera is better for that reason alone as you can certainly make a better image in the end. All that said, I believe the S6e will do the same once it gets official 5.1.1 and then a proper camera comparo can be done, though in all honesty it's still a phone camera and they are both outstanding for what they are.
Same thoughts on launchers too, the iteration of TW on the S6e is much better than anything they've done before but it still suffers from the same old problems of lag ultimately. I too use Nova (on both phones) and it solves the issue. If forced to use stock, I would probably pick the LG but I do hate the DPI of 640 and everything is so damned big and there's so much wasted screen real estate. The S6e out of the box with it's adjustable grid sizes and what not better utilizes the screen.
Agree on battery life also. On the stock ROM I could make it through a day (I work 18-20h shifts at times) on a single charge but I would cut it close some days. The built in Qi charging is really nice and I have a charger at work and I can just drop the phone on it when I can make it to my office and the quick charge via the INCLUDED wall charger is awesome. So even though the battery life wasn't great, it's quite easy to top it off. I did run the leaked TMo 5.1.1 software for a week or so and the battery life on it is a completely different animal. I could make it nearly 48 hours without a top off, so again, with 5.1.1 I think the S6e will be a lot better device than it currently is. The battery life on my G4 seems great so far. I've run it down to 10% twice now and it was at about 40h off charger each time. The phone itself supports quick charge 2.0 but the included wall charger doesn't. The wall charger charges it incredibly slow so I've been using my S6e charger which charges it in about 1/3 the time. I ordered a proper quick charge 2.0 certified charger that should be here tomorrow along with a Qi sticker for the stock back. All things considered, the G4 battery is certainly longer lasting but more of a pain in the ass to recharge for now (until my free spare battery from the promo shows up lol!) and for the way/scenarios I use my phone I prefer the S6e here. My Note 4 easily crushed them both in this category, it could go just over 3 days before dying.

Coming from S5 (Verizon) to the G4 (Verizon) ...
The S6 with no SD support was a no-go for me.
Battery life seems a little shorter than the S5. I suspect it is due to the beefier processor on the G4 even though the G4 has a bigger battery. The battery on the G4 seems to drop a LOT less when unused however.
I am kinda missing my fingerprint scanner on the S5, but the knock code and "locked files" in gallery help me keep certain pictures away from prying eyes.
Speaking of pictures, this camera is awesome. Period. Check out the "My LG G4 Photography" thread by alexfoxy. The front camera is pretty good too. A lady friend took a few selfies with my phone and said "damn, your phone makes me look good!"
I don't really notice the difference in the screen (size or resolution). S5 looked good and a the size is right for my big hands. G4 is the same.
This is the first phone that I didn't immediately wish for a ROM. I am missing my ad-blocking that requires root, but the default ROM is clean and fast (maybe kudos the the processor). I did have to change home back to Apex, tho.
All in all, very happy with the upgrade.

I'm coming from the Note 4 and I'm pretty sure the G4 is here to stay with me.
I can basically echo what others are saying;
- the ui is cleaner and smoother
- overall phone seems a lot smoother/quicker I haven't had much stuttering. The Note had its moments where it'd freeze or stutter really badly, even on a custom rom
- maybe it's just me but the pictures from the camera seem sharper.
- It feels better in hand aswell.
- The double tap on screen to unlock is nice to have
- the clip tray being an option when I long press where I would usually paste is nice to see as with the Note, the clipboard only showed up in select places
It just seems nicer overall. I do hope root comes soon as I'd want to disable some stuff.
In terms of battery, I feel like the Note might of done better but then again I had certain crap apps disabled *cough* tmo my account *cough*
I can't exactly judge though since my service at work sucks so whatever phone I use drains quickly. For some reason when I had the OnePlus it did a ton better in the poor coverage areas (in terms of battery drain) but it didn't have WiFi calling which is a big deal to me.
I didn't use the spen as much as I initially thought I would. When it came to taking notes I always went back to typing them rather than writing with the stylus. Although it did come in handy for selecting certain parts of a pic online and whatnot and quickly sharing it to something like hangouts.
Fingerprint and shealth I never cared for.
I haven't "missed" my Note 4 yet. I like having new devices and I'm sure I don't use them to their potential as some others do here but for my purposes the phone is great

Even though I have the HTC One M9 Dev Edition, I consider myself coming from the T-Mobile S5 to the T-Mobile G4. The dealmaker for me were the replaceable battery and removable storage. I'm still keeping my S5 of course. I still need a root-capable device.

To ex-note 4 users
What made you switch ?

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Regarding the Note 4I got irritated with it to the point where I paid off half the phone's price to get rid of it. Lollipop was an absolute mess. First, we waited forever. Then when we get it, it really messed up the phone. Issues I had:
1) Constant keyboard FC (where keyboard stays on screen permanent until reboot)...this would happen about once an hour, but only when using special characters ( . , * $ etc).
2) Upon unlocking, I would go to a black screen occasionally, requiring me to press the power button to shut off phone, then turn back on.
3) Trying to open an e-mail from notifications would take me to e-mail APP, but to a blank page with a back button.
4) Sometimes, cellular radio would choose to ignore wireless data altogether despite being in a strong LTE area.
5) Wifi calling would hardly connect, and was as likely to drop mid-call as it was to stay connected
6) Battery life went from 2 days with my usage to about 18 hours.
On top of those Lolli issues, the settings menu was a mess...scroll all day to find the menu I wanted. Missed double tap to wake too.
While I LOVED the look of the M9 and I love HTC in general, I eliminated HTC M9 due to 2 reasons:
1) The camera wasn't a contender with the current flagships and I use it as my primary camera to take pics of my kids.
2) No dual apps on same screen. It's a feature I used on the Note 4, and M9 didn't have it.
The S6 got eliminated due to 3 main reasons:
1) Looks too much like IPhone...sorry, just not my style
2) Touchwiz...granted my opinion is based on the Note 4, but I found it to be overly heavy and loaded with things I don't really use.
3) No expandable storage. I read their point of using high speed EMMC and wanting to keep system fast. What I read in that was "Blah blah blah we want you to pay MORE to get more storage". Again, goes back to too much like IPhone.
I'm not saying the G4 is perfect...I'd love it to have an 8 core processor, but it's really powerful enough as is. It's not overloaded with apps I won't really used or features I don't use. I'm sure I'll find things I don't LOVE as I use it more, but nothing is jumping out at me so far, and considering this has only been out for what...2 weeks, it's still early release, so bugs could be expected somewhat even though I've had none thusfar. I also liked the promotions LG was putting with it considering it's the least expensive of all the flagships out there (at least for us T-Mobile customers...it's $50 less than the M9, $80 less than S6, $180 less than S6E, hell, it's even cheaper than a 16GB IPhone 6).
Sorry so long

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im a phone whore ......... i wanted a new toy till the note 5 comes out. I pray they dont ruin it like they did the galaxy series

fatboypup said:
im a phone whore ......... i wanted a new toy till the note 5 comes out. I pray they dont ruin it like they did the galaxy series
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hah, once their sales figures come in they will not make that same mistake with the s7 is my hunch. g2-g3, m7-m8
Talk about scoring an own goal against LG
g2 vs s4 and g4 vs s6 (!)
At the time if g2 intl version was like g2 korean version i think i would have bought it.
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You could continue if you want
i'm not one of those TL;DR types.

Anyone coming from a G4?

I currently have the G4, but I really dislike the look/feel, the battery life, the UI, and the touchscreen issues. Anyone else switching from the G4 to the 6P? I already have mine pre-ordered.

I'm finally putting my G2 out to pasture...

I want to switch from the G4, mostly due to the touchscreen issues and partially to the UI, but the AMOLED screen is a major turn off. Both phones I've had with AMOLED suffered from burn in, the Nexus 6 a week into owning it.

Yes.
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i am kinda ......... I went from a note 4 to a LGG4 and back to the note 4 ...... I still have my G4 but it collects dust mostly, I did flash a rom on it this past weekend. I just missed the 5.7 inch screen and the lack of dev was killing me.

I'm seriously considering it. Maybe I have a bad G4 but even after disabling the bloat, flashing a different rom, and trying other things, it still lags and my battery life definitely ain't the best if even close to that.
I work from 8-4, my phone will be at 100 when I get to work and almost totally drained by noon, and I don't do anything intensive.
To be completely honest. My wife's S6 feels a lot smoother especially when typing in SwiftKey.

Yes. Although I picked up a couple other phones before the 6p (note 5, moto x). I hated the g4. Still can't understand the circle jerk surrounding that device. So many issues

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I'm seriously considering it. Maybe I have a bad G4 but even after disabling the bloat, flashing a different rom, and trying other things, it still lags and my battery life definitely ain't the best if even close to that.
I work from 8-4, my phone will be at 100 when I get to work and almost totally drained by noon, and I don't do anything intensive.
To be completely honest. My wife's S6 feels a lot smoother especially when typing in SwiftKey.
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Yup same here. I even did a KDZ restore and did not root it, still seems to have poor battery life. The touchscreen issues are really aggravating too, with lots of keyboard misses. I have the Verizon G4 so no ROMs yet. I miss the dev support of the G2/G3, lots of mods and ROMs, but nothing for the Verizon G4 yet.
It will be nice to finally have stock Android and fast updates with lots of dev support.

Not a G4, but a G3.

I've got a G4 and I'm enjoying it, but I miss a fingerprint scanner (came from an Ascend Mate 7) and vanilla Android. The only thing I'm giving up with the 6P is expandable storage (since I don't really carry an extra battery around anywhere to make use of removable battery), but that's rectified by the 128GB model of the 6P, which is what I ordered. USB OTG also means storing ROM's will be easy, and an SD card isn't needed.
The G4 is an amazing device, especially when you consider the fact you can grab one at a steep discount these days. But I'm a fan of a clean UI and larger phones, so I gave in and bought the 6P.

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I currently have the G4, but I really dislike the look/feel, the battery life, the UI, and the touchscreen issues. Anyone else switching from the G4 to the 6P? I already have mine pre-ordered.
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No way. G4 is the best device I have ever had!

G4 is the most balanced phone in 2015 , camera is amazing. Lacks of development is my turnoff but i will wait N6P drop price and i want to see real camera sample before dumping my G4 , im pretty happy with it!

coming from iPhone 5, I'm actually deciding between Lg G4 and Nexus 6P to be my first android device... so it's quite obvious that I have no clue about "Root" or "Custom Rom".
the decision is already tough guyz on top of that LG released LG V10, which confuse me even more

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coming from iPhone 5, I'm actually deciding between Lg G4 and Nexus 6P to be my first android device... so it's quite obvious that I have no clue about "Root" or "Custom Rom".
the decision is already tough guyz on top of that LG released LG V10, which confuse me even more
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I'd go with the V10 over the G4 IMO, unless it's a lot more expensive.

I have the verizon g4 since inception and a week ago after having some major issues beyond the typical, I convinced them to send me a new one. I must say that quality control must really suck because the new one is definitely running better than my old one which was rooted, debloated, and running some xposed modules. I haven't rooted the new one and it seems snappier and the battery seems the same which is fine as I haven't had much to complain about with the battery.
With that being said, I'll probably be ordering the 6P in a month or so. It sounds like it has everything I want, including a premium feel. I don't have that with the g4, even though I have leather backs.
Just going to wait for some more reviews to make sure it's as good as it sounds.
The g4 is a very good phone and will serve as an excellent backup.

I'll have a problemless g4 and a 6p.

I used the G4 while I was on a trip, loved the camera. I liked the customizations LG's skin offered however I couldn't stand the UI and the LG, the touch sucked.
I really liked the size and feel in hand with the brown leather back.
The battery wasn't great either so I'm hoping the 6P has a better camera and battery.

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the more I think about V10 less attractive it gets to be honest.... i keep my phone for at least 2 years before replacing it so having a 5.9 inch phone with gimmicky secondary screen doesn't seem practical... recently i also started looking into Sony Z5, waiting for reviews now

@scott4u Get the nexus 6p. Ive had lots of devices. Nexus i hold dear to my heart they are fast and the development is endless. I had touch to wake 3 years ago on my nexus 4. And I'm typing this on a g4. You should make your first time special.

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@scott4u Get the nexus 6p. Ive had lots of devices. Nexus i hold dear to my heart they are fast and the development is endless. I had touch to wake 3 years ago on my nexus 4. And I'm typing this on a g4. You should make your first time special.
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well Nexus 6P is definitely in my radar but at same time Sony Z5 also look cool... specially coz i read that sony added a extra heat distribution pipe to control heat issue of 810 chip without under-clocking it.
so lets wait for reviews beside New Zealand (that's where I'm) always get devices late

Who's stilling holding on?

What do you all think? Stilling holding on to the G2 and running strong? With all these shiny new toys released her recently it's got me wanting to upgrade, yet I'm pretty much in the camp of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." I've repaired my G2 now a few times and still come out on top. Who else has had really great success with these phones and still loves rocking the G2 even though it's over two years old now?

Definetly holding on.
Wont let go of back buttons and a phone that fits so well for one handed use. Perfect body ratio and screen dimensions for my needs and of course a battery life that to this day can compete with the latest flagships.
The G5? I'm alright. In my eyes, not worthy to pay all that extra $ when nothing much has changed since 2013.

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The G5? I'm alright. In my eyes, not worthy to pay all that extra $ when nothing much has changed since 2013.
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i agree, although i like the camera hardware on g5 which is way ahead G2 (but still not much ahead of g4)
i also agree on the part about the back buttons... i don't get why they abandoned this? it's more ergonomic with the back buttons...
and the bezel to screen ratio goes down again (g2 still has the highest screen to bezel ratio of any g-series devices)
would rather buy LG Xcam than g5...
the force is still strong in g2... does everything i need very well even today...

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What do you all think? Stilling holding on to the G2 and running strong? With all these shiny new toys released her recently it's got me wanting to upgrade, yet I'm pretty much in the camp of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." I've repaired my G2 now a few times and still come out on top. Who else has had really great success with these phones and still loves rocking the G2 even though it's over two years old now?
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The LG G2's SoC is still a better performer than pretty much all budget and mid-range smartphones of 2015. You got a decent 1080p screen, battery life, and it does not get hot like the G3. The G2 does have significant flaws. The GPS has weak reception, and I personally don't like the camera much because it often takes ages to auto-focus, if it can at all. There is likely no official marshmallow update, although there are a few well established AOSP ROMs like CM13. I applied the cardboard fix to the GPS problem (dunno if it works), installed the stripped down D800 lollipop ROM, boosted the sound, and passed the phone to my dad who only really cares about having big screen and loud sound.

Now that the galaxy s7 is out, I'll be looking for an s6 in a few months when prices go down. As much as I like the g2, the horrible gps and mediocre camera ruin it for me - those two things don't seem that important until you really need them. Plus, it's 2016, time to get a phone with a fingerprint scanner.

The only real upgrade for G2 is a SD820 based phone. Sadly, the majority of announced ones are too gimmicky. X performance and Le max pro seem promising but I bet on new nexuses and Motorola. So, that's one more year of g2 rocking.

Still waiting for Vivo XPlay 5 to be released. I also hope, that some other "Chinese" bands will release something new. I'm not really up to changing my LG G2 with decent hardware, support and battery into some crappy LG G5 with that crappy battery and "fancy" modules. Also bye bye back buttons. Perhaps ASUS will release something new with back buttons again, but based on some newer Intel chipset or S820 with battery at least 4000 mAh.
If nothing will be as good as LG G2 was back then, I'm not even thinking about any changes.

I will definitely buy a G5 this summer, but my g2 will stay strong in my gf's hands.

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What do you all think? Stilling holding on to the G2 and running strong? With all these shiny new toys released her recently it's got me wanting to upgrade, yet I'm pretty much in the camp of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." I've repaired my G2 now a few times and still come out on top. Who else has had really great success with these phones and still loves rocking the G2 even though it's over two years old now?
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Me, G2 still beat many mid-range phones. Plus, flasholic like me couldn't stand buy a phone then found out that I cant even root it.

I do agree that there hasn't really been anything that has exploded the scene for android phones. I think there is more competition in the race to the bottom with decently priced "mid-range" phones. Pretty excited about the finger print sensor but contactless payments and the added security are really the only reason's I'd argue to upgrade. You know "knock-on-wood" that my phone still stays strong as it's been a great device. Having awesome Devs to upgrade to CM13 and get all the extra software features is awesome!

I am . Not going on another phone ,not now ,I don't really need a fingerprint scanner (to be honest how many ppls are using it ?) ,camera is still doing a great job (don't have any problems with autofocus at all ,maybe in low light condition ) ,battery is still awesome even after 1 year and half of use (still last 1 day with medium use) ,and looking great (just trying to get new cases)

Me too! Not been impressed with the G5 so far. Will still read the reviews and try it out but taller than the G4 with a smaller screen and smaller battery... no thanks. If only they made the G2 again but with the G5 build materials and latest SoC then it would've been perfect for me.
Tried the S7 today but wasn't all that impressed for some reason. Dislike shiny glass back and prefer customisable on-screen buttons.
Hopes resting on the Huawei P9 that is supposed to be 5.2". Hopefully slightly smaller than the P8 with a larger battery.

I'm tying to justify replacing my 2 years old G2 but it appears to be a tough job..
ROM: SRKG2-300
Launcher: Nova Prime. The phone is very smooth.
Battery: About 45 hours with 3-4 SOT which is more than enough for me.
Camera: I'm using Xdabbeb's driver so I have 120FPS slow motion and also 4K recording. I also purchased Xcam LG Settings which is awesome too.
So..basically the main reason I want to upgrade is to have manual controls in the camera (specifically long exposure).
With that in mind, I don't really like the G5.. I don't like the design, the smaller battery, the big size (for the screen) and the HUGE BEZELS.
I kinda liked the V10 but the 808 SOC seems stupid when the 820 is about 50% more efficient.
I did look at the Mi5 which looks awesome but I'm waiting to see the camera review of this phone..
All in all, the G2 is holding strong! Too strong..

One of the best phone ever made
Simply the best ..... No lag...photo quality is superb...display and battery are out of this world....what's not to like !!!

How are you able to get 3-4 hours of SOT!? That's crazy, I've never gotten more than 1.5 hours on mine. I know everyone is different in the use and what they keep on but that's very high!
Anyone else still getting really high battery numbers?
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beankid said:
How are you able to get 3-4 hours of SOT!? That's crazy, I've never gotten more than 1.5 hours on mine. I know everyone is different in the use and what they keep on but that's very high!
Anyone else still getting really high battery numbers?
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You bought your G2 second hand? If so, go change the damn battery.
Mine is 1.5 years old and I still get 6 hours sot, sometimes more sometimes less depending on usage. Sometimes it reaches 9 hours if I just read ebooks offline (with low brightness).
But I dont know what is on D800 maybe it's carrier stuff that is causing the battery to suck to terribly.
I'd say about 90% of each charge cycle, I get about 5 hours 30 mins sot if I let it die completely. G2 is no joke.

No mine is not second hand. I've already changed the battery out with one from etradesupply. The original one hit the dirt this past summer and it's not on the original stock rom either so no carrier bloat. Crazy that you guys are getting that amount of SOT! Might make my case for a new phone even sooner then.... hahah Not sure I'd want to go through the hassle of finding a new battery supplier. Finding good screen replacements for this device was a PIA alone.

zizuka said:
You bought your G2 second hand? If so, go change the damn battery.
Mine is 1.5 years old and I still get 6 hours sot, sometimes more sometimes less depending on usage. Sometimes it reaches 9 hours if I just read ebooks offline (with low brightness).
But I dont know what is on D800 maybe it's carrier stuff that is causing the battery to suck to terribly.
I'd say about 90% of each charge cycle, I get about 5 hours 30 mins sot if I let it die completely. G2 is no joke.
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^ this
mine is 2 years old and i'm getting 4:30 hours sot when i play nfs no limits for an hour... without playing - easy 5 hrs+ sot...

Well....looks like mine might be closer out the door than I thought. I didn't think the battery I bought from Etradesupply was bad since it went from 20mintues SOT to over an 1.5hrs SOT. Looks like I was wrong...

I have come back to the G2 from the land of 5.5" phablets phones!
Got to say its good to be back to a sensible sized device, with a perfectly good set of specs even against everything that has followed it! I went for the G3 when it launched, and simply never felt at home with it compared to the 16Gb D802 that I passed to a family member. I've now picked up a 32Gb D802 in red, in perfect condition for just £100. Rooted, flashed CloudyG2 3.3 .. absolutely the best phone I've ever had, not just from a 'preference' perspective, but compared to most devices that are on the market it is not in any way a bad device to own. In particular I am constantly disappointed by screen to device size ratios, very few ever get close the G2's 75.9% which I see as its greatest asset, add to that a great camera, battery life, and the great button layout and I cannot see my self moving out of this gem for quite some time.

opinions now that it's been out a while?

How are you V20 owners feeling about the phone now that it's been out a while? I'm looking for a new phone and the options with Sprint suck, so it seems like it's either the S7 Edge or the V20. Both have good reviews, but those reviews are always done after maybe a few days or a week of use, and right at the phone's release, so I wanted to get some real world opinions from every day users.
I have an LG G3 right now (came to this from a Note 2) and I've been pretty unhappy with it for a while. It was okay (but nothing special) for the first year, then really went to crap--laggy, restarting itself, losing data connection. So I'm a little leery of going with another LG product, but this phone does have my interest.

I had a Note 2 and 4 prior to the V20 here and I love this phone. Even before root, I thought it was excellent. I find it fast and snappy, it doesn't seem to carry the lag that Samsung phones do. And the second screen is pretty awesome, I use it way more than I ever used the s-pen (never had an edge phone, so I can't compare it with thag).
Having said that, there are a couple downsides. I don't like the lcd screen - Samsung's amoleds are far better looking. And I feel like the camera on the Note 4 was better. But otherwise I'm really pleased with this phone. It's a great phone in and of itself, but it's the stuff that differentiated it from Samsung, the removable battery and ir blaster, that put me over the top.
And now that we have root? Oh yeah, I would definitely recommend this phone.

I too shared the concern of lag after using a G3, but this V20 is one of the fastest phones I've ever used (owned it since release). It's still snappy, no weird crashes or restarts, battery still lasts 2 solid days, wifi is still stronger than my Note 7 was. The more I use it the less things like the lack of notification LED bother me, and I'm more and more impressed with the audio that this phone delivers. However I still miss AMOLED, if this V20 had an OLED display it would be 10/10 for me.

Personally, both my dad and I want to throw our devices out a window. Mine regularly locks up, and both of our devices occasionally heat up, and drop 20% or more battery life in 5 minutes. I'd like this phone a lot if these issues didn't exist but as it stands they outweigh the incredible audio quality that this phone provides
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I got the V20 when I had to give up my Note7. The note 7 was hands down my favorite phone I've ever owned, but the V20 is good. I also owned the V10, which was okay, the V20 is a vast improvement though. Good performance, decent battery life (not getting a secondary with charging kit would defeat the purpose), and the camera is pretty good (but not on par with Samsung as far as I'm concerned). I like the second screen, but it's a trade for the edge screen function. Honestly I would have gotten the S7 edge, but after the note 7 debacle, I refused to support Samsung this year. Will upgrade to the next note though as soon as I can.

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Personally, both my dad and I want to throw our devices out a window. Mine regularly locks up, and both of our devices occasionally heat up, and drop 20% or more battery life in 5 minutes. I'd like this phone a lot if these issues didn't exist but as it stands they outweigh the incredible audio quality that this phone provides
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That's interesting - did you use dirtysanta on your phone? If so, use the Konverged kernel. It helps significantly (using it on my H910).
If not, you can also do these couple of things to help you out - turn off/disable Lookout. That is terrible to have on the phone and drains battery like no other. Go into your developer options menu in Settings, change all the different scales like animation scales, etc. to 0.5x. There's a couple of other small things you can do - like disabling the bloatware installed on your phone. But those will help out the most I believe.
Twisted

twistedvip said:
That's interesting - did you use dirtysanta on your phone? If so, use the Konverged kernel. It helps significantly (using it on my H910).
If not, you can also do these couple of things to help you out - turn off/disable Lookout. That is terrible to have on the phone and drains battery like no other. Go into your developer options menu in Settings, change all the different scales like animation scales, etc. to 0.5x. There's a couple of other small things you can do - like disabling the bloatware installed on your phone. But those will help out the most I believe.
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Nope I already always disable all possible bloatware and my phone is stock. Changing the window speed also will not help because my problem isn't sluggishness, it's the fact that the phone becomes unresponsive.
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Overall I would have to say I'm kinda disappointed with the lg v20. Coming from the note 3, I don't know if I expected too much, or was looking to be blown away, but for the price, I expected so much more. If the phone would've been like $400-500 maybe I wouldn't be so disappointed. I had to send my v20 to lg because of the speaker problem, so I have been using a ZTE z958, a $50 go phone from att. Honestly I can't really tell the difference between the v20 and the ZTE. Not enough to justify the $800 difference. The only two things I miss from the v20 are the finger print sensor and FM radio. Think I'm going to stick with my ZTE. Luckily my wife got an iPhone 7 plus and she didn't like it very much and wants to switch back to Android, so I think I'm just going to give her the v20 and sell the iPhone 7 plus. Much more easier to sell iPhone and not loose that much money, than to try and sell v20.
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Thanks to everyone for all of the info.
I know this is the LG section so I might get a biased answer, but if I could get the V20 and the Galaxy S7 for the same price, which one should I go for?
Sprint has a deal on the S7 right now until 12/28, and I was told by a rep in the forums that the same deal is going live for the V20 on 12/29. Both will come down to about $6.50/month after the sale plus my loyalty credit.

Coming from note 3, 4 and 7 - I am very pleased with the V20. Not rooted yet as I'm not sold that root will gain me much of anything and the more I read, the less I am interested in rooting. Bad battery life, no fm radio, worse signal, loss of sound improvement from quad dac and no means of reverting to stock unrooted.
I miss the look of the super amo-led a little bit, but I don't miss the screen burn on every samsung amoled screen I have owned or seen with many family members samsungs.
Love the second screen, sound quality with and without headphones. Happy with the camera using manual mode. Love the removable battery, sd slot, ir blaster, fm radio. The fact that I can disassemble and repair the phone if the need arises. Something the samsungs can be hard or even impossible to do.

Advice wanted from experienced LG V20 users

Hi folks. I've been on a T-mobile Note 4 for a long time now, and love it- no problems yet and an 8000 maH battery keeping me quite happy.
Thinking forward to buying a new phone soon. Lots of new stuff coming out soon, but the V20 still looks attractive to me (being able to get a 10,000 maH zerolemon battery is a BIG factor). IR blaster and SD card availability is big to me too.
Couple of questions:
1) Thinking about what's coming out, and having lived with the V20, would you wait for what's coming out this spring, or even sit back until the "V30"?
2) I love taking pictures with the Note 4, and they turn out well. Low light, well, not so much. Flowers on a sunny day are great. Are you happy with the main and selfie cameras, or do you find yourself wanting "just a bit more" (for the average user... I'm not a full time amateur photographer).
Your comments would be much appreciated. I just retired, so I have more time to play with things these days- so I'm sure I'll be using the next beast I buy extensively especially for reading, nice photos, and the ir remote (oh, I got a great e-z chair for tv time ).
Thanks much!
Steven.RN

I like my V20 but unfortunately I do not "love" it like I did with my OG Motorola Nexus 6.
The stock battery is utter crap and I am on my 2nd LG battery after having to recall the 1st one. The 2nd one greatly improved but not by much. Rooting this phone has saved me from returning it. If it wasn't for Root I would of returned the phone.
1. Other than the G6 or the S8 coming out - what other phones are coming out (T-Mobile Wise)? Nothing right now seems to give me that "wow" factor like the Pure Android experience from the Nexus 6 did (yes, as you can tell, I loved that phone) The Pixel phones are a complete joke to me...horrible design....
2. The camera is okay for an average user. I do find myself liking the fact I have two lenses to choose from. Wide angle and normal angle. Very helpful in the Security field that I am in. But be warned the pictures are not amazing like Samsung devices.
If I were you, kinda wish I was right now. I would wait for the Note 8!
But other than that the 2nd Screen is incredibly helpful, to me. The removable battery and SD card is a great addition. The IR Blaster is cool but I do not use it at all. I have enough "Universal" remotes. LG's UI is pretty neat I like it a lot better than Samsungs ugly TouchWiz UI.
To each their own, I suppose.

I think the phone is awesome, the smart phone market has peaked advancements aren't going to be as neat as they used to be.
The snapdragon 820 is about 3 times faster than the 805 in your note 4 (assuming you've got the snapdragon variant).
The camera is snappier than the note 4 and takes pretty good photos (better than the note 4).
If you like the stylus though I'd wait it out 6 months for the note 8.
It's a worthy upgrade and it'll probably be a phone that would carry you through two years if not longer.
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Absolutely the best phone I've ever had.
Very well built, great reception, zero lag, large screen....and I have to disagree about the battery. I've had nothing but FANTASTIC life, and this is with two different batteries, one just for backup just in case. Fast charging works great...volume is perfect, removable battery, rootable and TWRP-able...honestly, I wouldn't even think about "upgrading" from this phone right now. Samsung who?

I came from the note 4 also. This phone is much faster (no Lag). I didn't think there was any lag with my note until I got this phone. With that said, I am rooted with a custom rom and that did speed things up a little. My note was also rooted with a very nice custom rom.
When the note 7 came out, the were a lot of people on XDA saying they wished there was a flat screen version, i.e. not the curved screen. You can bet the note 8 will have a curved screen which makes finding quality screen protection tough. The v20 does have slight curving at the top and bottom, but people here have found tempered glass solutions that work.
You can also bet the note 8 won't have a removable back, so replacing the back plate with a bigger battery and cover won't be an option.
The camera takes very good pictures and if you understand the options in manual, you can really optimize it. Is it as good as the note 8 will be? No.
Sammy screens are also the best looking. The V20 screen while it has the specs, just doesn't look as good as a sammy. If you use a kernel with kcal support, you can get close.
Good luck.

I also came from a Note 4.
I personally never used the stylus for anything except taking screen grabs. I fount it easier than remembering the button combo for a screenshot.
My gps stopped working due to a known defect in the note 4. I broke the display trying to take it apart to fix it.
I love my V20 so much more than my note 3 or 4 or 7 even.
I won't buy note 8 as like all Samsungs -
1. The sound will most likely be horrible.
2. You probably will never be able to root it.
3. As nice as the amoled looks - everyone I've owned as well as my wifes, bil's, sisters all suffer bad screen burn in.
4. If they force that curved edge screen again. I hated that on the Note 7.

I'm done with Sammy. LG V20 is the best I've ever had so far

I also came from the Note 4. I got the s7 edge which i gave to my wife. The buttons(or lack of) take a little getting used to, but the ability to root determined my buying the V20 and I think it is on par with my note feature wise(minus stylus\plus FM radio) just faster and maybe a bit lighter. If Note 8 is rootable, i might jump but i doubt it. I could keep this phone for awhile.

Love it
But dont love the front cam is really bad
And rear cam
My old nexus 6p was better
But performance is great and second screen is great
Battary is ****
Charge is 3 times at day
Hi dac is fantastic
Screen is good but not great
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For me
Camera
At day light 10/10
At night 9/10
Indoors craaap 2/10

Another perk with LG is that the amount of garbage software that it comes with is minimal when compared to Samsung. I know the note 3 and note 4 were filled with Samsung garbage apps.
The other consideration is there is no know so warranty shouldn't be a issue since there is no knox switch that gets flipped when you root it, you can (in most cases) reverse the rooting without any problems.
Of course I turned in my v10 rooted and they didn't even care (T-Mobile) so I am not sure if this is a real issue with warranty or not.
I say go for it, its going to beat the note 4 in just about everything. The only perk for the note 4 is the amoled display which saves quite a bit of battery. Of course you can always get aftermarket battery packs to off set it with the LG v20.
The v20 battery life is much improved over the v10, I typically have about 30 percent battery by the end of the day (this is with spotify and Bluetooth running during the work day).
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I really do like it a lot, although it had to grow on me a little bit. In term of pictures, I think it takes rather nice pictures (at least for me). The wide angle lens is pretty cool too. My note 5 broke so this is why I have this phone. The second screen is really useful and I like that it doesn't have a notification light. The screen is nice and big for reading also. I don't use the IR blaster at all so i can't really tell you what its like.
I hope this helps!

The v20 is OK but my note 7 was far superior. Better camera, screen, battery life, only thing the v20 had over the note 7 was the DAC. Personally I would wait until newer phones comes out. I'm looking FWD to the note 8.
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As someone who have had a wide variety of samsungs and LG .... I believe i will be keeping this phone for at least 4 years easily. There are just not way too many cons and there are way to many pros. The battery can sometime be a pain but that's just like any other phone since nothing last forever. But hey, the dozen mode!!! OUTSTANDING! my V20 consumes 1% of battery in 8 hours with screen off and 2nd screen on. so, it might not last more than 5:30-50's+ hours with screen on, full brightness, wifi on, gps on, and a video in 1440p. But,,,, as far as dozen mode goes.... It is outstanding! And if the promotion stills on, you can get the phone for 600+ instead of the 800+ by exchanging any 4g crap phone ($19 dollars at walmart should do lol). Im happy with the phone (sometimes pictures if zoomed in can look like waterpaint style but it doesnt happen that often (At least to me)). And as far as waiting for the V30 or note 8 ... Well, that is truly up to you. However, if you are hoping for root , there is just not guarantee given the fact that they are truly patching up every door from nougat 7.0 and up. So... you could wait for the V30 or note 8 but if you wish for root or developments.... i dont recommend to buy them before someone finds the way to root it.

I was one of the ones that was coming from an S6 edge instead of something newer, so obviously it's a bigger upgrade for me than it was for most others. I am pretty happy with the camera. I miss having the double-tap home button from the Samsung for the camera launch, but that's about it. I took it with me to Colorado and took some quite lovely pictures in the sunshine. Most people will concede that the low light performance leaves some to be desired, but I usually don't take any in conditions that are that bad, where that I would complain afterwards. I kind of figure that in sub-optimal conditions, I'll have sub-optimal results.
My battery seems to be quite fine, BUT, I'm also rooted and running a debloated ROM (the US996 stock deodexed, on my 995 Verizon model). The battery under whatever kernel it's running, is quite fine, and it is removable for people needing more length. I wish it had wireless charging, but that's just how it is. But for example, 8 hours on standby, and I was still at well over 75% today at work. And I can usually get through a good 3 hours of straight video playback at least. But the way people use their phones varies so much, it's hard to say. I do get better life rooted than when it was stock.
It also is plenty snappy, and I've had no issues, no overheating, no weird battery drain, no lag, or the like. I would say that coming from what you have now, it might be a step up but you might feel it won't be a big enough one yet. But the LG G6 being rumored out might be worth holding out, assuming you aren't looking to root. That might get tricky as Nougat (mentioned above) starts getting locked down. I have faith in the community - after all, it didn't take long for the V20 to get opened up, though there are some that worry that it'll continue to get harder as exploits get patched.
For what it's worth, I love mine. I miss a couple weird tricks from other phones, but on the whole, I am very satisfied with my decision.

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I was one of the ones that was coming from an S6 edge instead of something newer, so obviously it's a bigger upgrade for me than it was for most others. I am pretty happy with the camera. I miss having the double-tap home button from the Samsung for the camera launch, but that's about it. I took it with me to Colorado and took some quite lovely pictures in the sunshine. Most people will concede that the low light performance leaves some to be desired, but I usually don't take any in conditions that are that bad, where that I would complain afterwards. I kind of figure that in sub-optimal conditions, I'll have sub-optimal results.
My battery seems to be quite fine, BUT, I'm also rooted and running a debloated ROM (the US996 stock deodexed, on my 995 Verizon model). The battery under whatever kernel it's running, is quite fine, and it is removable for people needing more length. I wish it had wireless charging, but that's just how it is. But for example, 8 hours on standby, and I was still at well over 75% today at work. And I can usually get through a good 3 hours of straight video playback at least. But the way people use their phones varies so much, it's hard to say. I do get better life rooted than when it was stock.
It also is plenty snappy, and I've had no issues, no overheating, no weird battery drain, no lag, or the like. I would say that coming from what you have now, it might be a step up but you might feel it won't be a big enough one yet. But the LG G6 being rumored out might be worth holding out, assuming you aren't looking to root. That might get tricky as Nougat (mentioned above) starts getting locked down. I have faith in the community - after all, it didn't take long for the V20 to get opened up, though there are some that worry that it'll continue to get harder as exploits get patched.
For what it's worth, I love mine. I miss a couple weird tricks from other phones, but on the whole, I am very satisfied with my decision.
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Random FYI... Double press down volume when screen is off opens camera. (options in settings to open and immediately take pic or just open)
I figure you already know and just miss the convenience of the home button location but... Just in case...

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Random FYI... Double press down volume when screen is off opens camera. (options in settings to open and immediately take pic or just open)
I figure you already know and just miss the convenience of the home button location but... Just in case...
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Yup, there is that one. But it's also a little more awkward that way. It's just as easy to double-tap the screen and swipe into the camera app. The home key on the Samsung was perfect, because I could bring the phone to landscape orientation, double tap, and bam, ready to go. It's rare that I need to get a picture THAT fast that I need to, but it was really convenient.

I love almost everything about it, but If this thing had a brighter or amoled screen I would never get another phone.

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I love almost everything about it, but If this thing had a brighter or amoled screen I would never get another phone.
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Do not bring AMOLED INTO IPS!!! Every single phone i had with AMOLED screen (10 to be precise), all of them developed burn in image. LOL I will never buy another phone with AMOLED screen. Unless..... They A) fix the issue with the burn in image, and B) they manage to make it last at its full potential for at least 5 years and then after 5 years the pixels can start dying. Not to mention that many of the AMOLED screens from nowadays have removed soooooooo many important features in a phone such as removable battery and sd card slots. That alone makes me move within an instant to LG G or V series (AKA Large Giraffe as some people call it LOL)

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Do not bring AMOLED INTO IPS!!! Every single phone i had with AMOLED screen (10 to be precise), all of them developed burn in image. LOL I will never buy another phone with AMOLED screen. Unless..... They A) fix the issue with the burn in image, and B) they manage to make it last at its full potential for at least 5 years and then after 5 years the pixels can start dying. Not to mention that many of the AMOLED screens from nowadays have removed soooooooo many important features in a phone such as removable battery and sd card slots. That alone makes me move within an instant to LG G or V series (AKA Large Giraffe as some people call it LOL)
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Hahaha Yeah it would have to be a revised version of that hardware. I just find that the screen is way too dim outside. I even used that adaptive display mod which does help, but washes out the colors.

I literally just went from a note 4 to v20 and its amazing. The phone is so much more intuitive . tap screen to wake .fingerprint scanner unlocks phone faster than I can swipe. So much more. All around it just works better. I feel like all Samsung phones are the same. Bc I've had only Sammy past 8 years. I love this v20
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