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Has anyone come from a S3 LTE?
The size puts me off, but I had a play around with one yesterday and absolutely loved it.
Please convince me! lol
Please dont buy it because once you go big you can't go back. I love mine and everything else feels so small.
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alphaola said:
Please dont buy it because once you go big you can't go back. I love mine and everything else feels so small.
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what phone have you come from buddy
winwiz said:
what phone have you come from buddy
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Galaxy Nexus
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Came from a S3 LTE...Loved the S3...LOVE the Note 2 more...lol. The speed, battery life, screen, all much better! The size at first was a little big, but after using it a bit when I pick up my S3 it seems so small. The note 2 is well worth the upgrade IMOP.
Having used S3 and now note 2 I would say n2 is a far better phone bar couple issues. Screen resolution and camera are better on s3 if you can live with that then go for it however I would recommend waiting for HTC's Butterfly DLX before you makeup your mind. If I had a choice and both butterfly and note 2 where available I would definitely go for butterfly, purely due to far superior design and specs
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Having used S3 and now note 2 I would say n2 is a far better phone bar couple issues. Screen resolution and camera are better on s3 if you can live with that then go for it however I would recommend waiting for HTC's Butterfly DLX before you makeup your mind. If I had a choice and both butterfly and note 2 where available I would definitely go for butterfly, purely due to far superior design and specs
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cameras seem the same, is the screen res noticeably different?
riz157 said:
Having used S3 and now note 2 I would say n2 is a far better phone bar couple issues. Screen resolution and camera are better on s3 if you can live with that then go for it however I would recommend waiting for HTC's Butterfly DLX before you makeup your mind. If I had a choice and both butterfly and note 2 where available I would definitely go for butterfly, purely due to far superior design and specs
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or u'd betta hold and wait for SGS4 or SGN3 huhuhuhuh
My now sold Galaxy S3 LTE had the best Amoled screen (in terms of color reproduction) I've ever seen. Absolutely no color cast! My Note 2 has the worst LCD in terms of color reproduction, it is completely yellow...
I see no difference in the camera whatsoever. I believe they are the same hardware, camera wise. As far as the screen, when I set my S3 beside my N2...N2 wins. The pentile of the S3 is just not as good...IMOP.
winwiz said:
Has anyone come from a S3 LTE?
The size puts me off, but I had a play around with one yesterday and absolutely loved it.
Please convince me! lol
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multi tasking (split screen), lets me watch videos and surf the net. Forget that popup video player. It blocks the screen and is more of an annoyance. split screen video watching and web surfing is definitely the real way to do it.
bigger screen. You get used to the size. The S3 starts feeling uncomfortably small in about a week. You want to be using the Note 2 when making that realization.
S Pen...AirView on webpages totally rocks.
S Note...ability to have a device to write on as soon as it is out of your pocket is a big deal.
Battery life...is as good as you can get for a smartphone.
You do have to get used to the size a little. It is uncomfortable in my jeans when walking up stairs and sitting, but it is a small price to pay for an amazing device.
winwiz said:
Has anyone come from a S3 LTE?
The size puts me off, but I had a play around with one yesterday and absolutely loved it.
Please convince me! lol
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If interested I would like to exchange with you, I find it quite big, but absolute beauty.
Lucidmike said:
You do have to get used to the size a little. It is uncomfortable in my jeans when walking up stairs and sitting
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That's what she said!
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If interested I would like to exchange with you, I find it quite big, but absolute beauty.
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What have you got bud? I'm after the grey one...PM me!
I also came from the LTE S3. Everything about this phone is better (screen, fluidity, speed, hardware, etc). Go for it if the size doesn't bother you. I love it.
I usually change phones every couple of months, but this may be the only phone I've ever owned that may hold me over until the next version releases.
Also came from the att s3 to the att note 2. You can't compare them. The note 2 smashes the s3 in every way. The screen is so much brighter. The loud speaker is at least twice as good. It's way faster. Everything on this phone is perfect except s note should open faster. I rate it 9.8/10
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Also came from the att s3 to the att note 2. You can't compare them. The note 2 smashes the s3 in every way. The screen is so much brighter. The loud speaker is at least twice as good. It's way faster. Everything on this phone is perfect except s note should open faster. I rate it 9.8/10
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Actually the screen brightness is identical but it is much faster than a 1gb S3.
Loudspeaker is the best but the most important thing is that the Note 2 will last 8 hours of screen time with no problems!! That is just amazing!
Yeah easily 8 hours. Idk, the note 2 feels much brighter to me for sure.
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Anyone who used to own a note 2 ? How does the s4 compare minus the new features. Were talking about speed, app switching , wifi , browser etc. i used to have a note 2 and it was an absolute beast best phone I've ever had
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Anyone who used to own a note 2 ? How does the s4 compare minus the new features. Were talking about speed, app switching , wifi , browser etc. i used to have a note 2 and it was an absolute beast best phone I've ever had
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I agree.note 2 still good gadget.off course s4 is lot of new technology but if using as daily hp,note 2 still good choice coz wat ever games or apllication still can run smoothly.battery life also much better.i m using both s4 n note 2 but for browsing i m still using note 2.
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Anyone who used to own a note 2 ? How does the s4 compare minus the new features. Were talking about speed, app switching , wifi , browser etc. i used to have a note 2 and it was an absolute beast best phone I've ever had
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i have Note 2 right now and i am gonna sell it tomorrow to get S4. i went to store this week to test S4 before purchase. S4 was faster than Note 2. you will not note it that much but i have my own kinda "steps" to compare the smartphones.
the only issue i have and i fear is the over heating issue of S4. i guess it will be gone because even my S3 used to get very hot in the beginning when i purchased it last year but later updates resolved the issue.
so im hoping S4 would also get an update for the over heating issue.
other than that, S4 has almost 80% better screen than Note 2! and im a movie buff and heavy internet user so i love the screen of S4. camera performance is also great. i will recommend u to get S4
choice is your though
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i have Note 2 right now and i am gonna sell it tomorrow to get S4. i went to store this week to test S4 before purchase. S4 was faster than Note 2. you will not note it that much but i have my own kinda "steps" to compare the smartphones.
the only issue i have and i fear is the over heating issue of S4. i guess it will be gone because even my S3 used to get very hot in the beginning when i purchased it last year but later updates resolved the issue.
so im hoping S4 would also get an update for the over heating issue.
other than that, S4 has almost 80% better screen than Note 2! and im a movie buff and heavy internet user so i love the screen of S4. camera performance is also great. i will recommend u to get S4
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How do you measure that "80% better screen" part exactly? For me, at least on such smaller screens, 1080p is a bit pointless. The high ppi is great though as it's pentile and I could clearly see the graininess on S3, which I can't on S4. While watching movies, I personally can't notice any difference between N2 and S4 - and N2 has more screen real estate, ergo I prefer it for watching movies than S4. And personally, I prefer rgb over pentile (personal preference though).
However where you would notice a difference is while browsing - the screen is marginally sharper than N2. Again that's my experience from using S4 briefly although I don't plan to own one.
As for speed, both phones are fast when it comes to the UI, but without doubt S4 will handle resource intensive tasks better. But Note 2 has handled anything I've thrown at it well without any issues so far anyways. Hell, even S2 handles most apps fine even now, so that shouldn't be a problem with either of these devices.
As far as perfornence concerned...after all note 2 is better
S4's octa cores are better only for bencmark & gimmic...whereas note is real performer...no heat issue, more ram available , heating & more battery friendly....everybody knows these are key features to be better performmer
Bigger screen
Wel costomized firmware
Better battery
No such heatin problem
More free ram
Now much cheaper than s4
Great dev support in XDA
(u can use all kind of roms, apps tweaks & mods...even many s4 features )
S pen creativity
And dont forget...Fm app
I think untill note 3 or s5, note 2 is best deal
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Lets see s4 features
Screen smearing
Battery draining
Heating
Jerks in TW
More bloatwares ...almost half of 16 gb
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As far as perfornence concerned...after all note 2 is better
S4's octa cores are better only for bencmark & gimmic...whereas note is real performer...no heat issue, more ram available , heating & more battery friendly....everybody knows these are key features to be better performmer
Bigger screen
Wel costomized firmware
Better battery
No such heatin problem
More free ram
Now much cheaper than s4
Great dev support in XDA
(u can use all kind of roms, apps tweaks & mods...even many s4 features )
S pen creativity
And dont forget...Fm app
I think untill note 3 or s5, note 2 is best deal
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Lets see s4 features
Screen smearing
Battery draining
Heating
Jerks in TW
More bloatwares ...almost half of 16 gb
More to come
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Note 2 seems faster, perhaps due to the chipset having half the pixels to push data to.
I agree that with a display this size, 1080 seems overkill if compromising performance. That said, I may just be rationalzing since Verizon might only be offering the 16gb model and I will not trade my 32gb S3 for that.
ipsuvedi said:
As far as perfornence concerned...after all note 2 is better
S4's octa cores are better only for bencmark & gimmic...whereas note is real performer...no heat issue, more ram available , heating & more battery friendly....everybody knows these are key features to be better performmer
Bigger screen
Wel costomized firmware
Better battery
No such heatin problem
More free ram
Now much cheaper than s4
Great dev support in XDA
(u can use all kind of roms, apps tweaks & mods...even many s4 features )
S pen creativity
And dont forget...Fm app
I think untill note 3 or s5, note 2 is best deal
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Lets see s4 features
Screen smearing
Battery draining
Heating
Jerks in TW
More bloatwares ...almost half of 16 gb
More to come
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How do you measure that "80% better screen" part exactly? For me, at least on such smaller screens, 1080p is a bit pointless. The high ppi is great though as it's pentile and I could clearly see the graininess on S3, which I can't on S4. While watching movies, I personally can't notice any difference between N2 and S4 - and N2 has more screen real estate, ergo I prefer it for watching movies than S4. And personally, I prefer rgb over pentile (personal preference though).
However where you would notice a difference is while browsing - the screen is marginally sharper than N2. Again that's my experience from using S4 briefly although I don't plan to own one.
As for speed, both phones are fast when it comes to the UI, but without doubt S4 will handle resource intensive tasks better. But Note 2 has handled anything I've thrown at it well without any issues so far anyways. Hell, even S2 handles most apps fine even now, so that shouldn't be a problem with either of these devices.
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u asked me to explain and wrote all that long comment or urs... lols
any ways... 80% better screen means i can see more pixels on note 2 screen than i could on my S3. note 2 screen is better for watching videos and thats it. anything higher than 720p was sharper but below that i can see pixels. there is also black clipping on some of the note 2 devices as reported by some of users. but s4 just does not have that. dont know how u can say s4 screen is just a tad sharper than note 2 screen i found it to be a lot sharper than note 2 screen! and just cause of the sheer size of the screen and so widely spread pixels cause of the lower resolution, the note 2 really got hot after using especially when more whites are displayed on the screen. it used to lag a lot when going from app drawer to the widget section and the lag is considerably lowered now in s4.
so over all s4 is better than note 2 in almost every way and oh the s pen, dont talk about that! cause until dont have real good use scenario for it or u have lots of free time and u have really good drawing and hand writing its useless and i really didnt use it that much after my first 10 days with note 2!
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u asked me to explain and wrote all that long comment or urs... lols
any ways... 80% better screen means i can see more pixels on note 2 screen than i could on my S3. note 2 screen is better for watching videos and thats it. anything higher than 720p was sharper but below that i can see pixels. there is also black clipping on some of the note 2 devices as reported by some of users. but s4 just does not have that. dont know how u can say s4 screen is just a tad sharper than note 2 screen i found it to be a lot sharper than note 2 screen! and just cause of the sheer size of the screen and so widely spread pixels cause of the lower resolution, the note 2 really got hot after using especially when more whites are displayed on the screen. it used to lag a lot when going from app drawer to the widget section and the lag is considerably lowered now in s4.
so over all s4 is better than note 2 in almost every way and oh the s pen, dont talk about that! cause until dont have real good use scenario for it or u have lots of free time and u have really good drawing and hand writing its useless and i really didnt use it that much after my first 10 days with note 2!
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You can see pixels on Note 2? You must have super vision or something. I do see grainyness on S3 if I look hard, but Note II? Really? Especially since the Note II has larger pixels. Probably placebo effect IMO.
I never had black clipping (and from what I hear from Erica, Note II is better than S4 in this regard, not the other way - either way it's fixable), and I've browsed a lot on Note II with full brightness on (websites typically have white background) and there were no throttling issues or overheating, unlike reported by some S4 users (which should hopefully be fixable) for me. And that's even without the power saving blue tint (It has some sort of greenish tint, which I got rid with Perseus). And what makes you think that lower pixel density is what causes overheating anyways?
And the lag is entirely touchwiz, not hardware (unless you're somehow suggesting a quad core device with 2gb RAM would lag in widget drawer) - though for me lag was not that apparent (solved entirely with Nova+custom ROM) - many people with S4 has that too, but apparently fixed with firmware upgrade.
Anywho, whatever suits you mate S4 is a great phone nevertheless.
Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
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Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
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i have galaxy note 3 but if i time returns i will choose nexus 5
Please mention your reasons. It would help me a lot. Thanks
I'm using note 3 at the moment and my nexus 5 is on its way to me, will give more accurate impression once received.
Features I prefer nexus 5 over note 3
Design look and feel (massive improvement)
No TW bloatware (another massive factor)
Easier to carry around
More regular software updates kat 4.4
No lag freezing (hopefully)
Features I will miss coming from note 3
camera not impressed at all (will miss that the most)
4k video recording
Battery life
S-pen (just a little)
Multi screens (what a feature)
Large screen
Ext memory
Have you encountered any problems with the Note 3 ? Does it lag ? Do you have that effect on low brightness for dark borders ? How does TW bloatware affect you ?
Battery wise note has 50%more juice. Home button issues - do you mean the button moving around? It is not a problem, people are too much complaining about tiny tiny things they should never find unless they read about it.
Camera - i think nexus5 is way better than n3. Its not the pixels that matter, or software options. Nexus 5 camera is next level, focus is about 10 times faster.
Bloatware yes, samsung puts 700mb of bloatware that you dont receive on nexus. Not sure if anything of that is usable. But cyanogenmod should arrive soon!
I wish note3 had the new camera and with optical stabilization, then it would be perfect!
As for 4.4 - its just a number. There will definitely arrive new android versions fast on the n3, just that you have to flash it yourself and void the warranty.
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I like Nexus because:
- The design of the device and the appearance of the UI is more appealing to me. I like to keep things on my phone looking pretty "minimalistic" with few colors and lots and lots of black. I absolutely hate the Touchwiz cartoony look and I always change everything about it, the process starts immediately on first boot of the phone. Everything about Touchwiz looks awful - the icons, the menus, the choices in colors, those horrible big green quick settings toggles in the notification bar. Stock Android is much much better when it comes to looks. The Nexus 5 and its software looks like it's been designed by a design team made up of adults who actually make cohesive decisions together. Touchwiz looks to me like the school project of a pre-school class where everyone can add their favorite color and everyone gets to participate and add their touch to the design. Little Johnny wants a big blue, round icon there - OK let's put it right next to Jenny's rectangular pink icon there and add Lisa's green toggles! Fun for everybody.
I like Note 2/3 because:
- The battery is bigger. I've never been this satisfied with battery life.
- The screen is bigger. Honestly after using the Note 2, I cringe every time I use my iPhone 4 (I keep it as my spare phone) or my wife's Galaxy S III. The displays are so tiny, I don't think I could go back. Not even to a 5" display.
- I don't like the on screen nav buttons of stock Android. I want the physical menu, home and back buttons.
- The S-Pen. I'm not a heavy S-Pen user but it has really nice features on the Note 3. I use it much more with my Note 3 than I did with my Note 2.
- Memory card slot. Seriously. I could not live without one.
- Removable battery - not a big reason but nonetheless it is nice.
I hate the Note 2/3 because:
- I get to a point where I'm never satisfied with the ROM I use. New stuff is released on XDA and I feel this pressing need to try other ROMs. All the time. Sometimes it seems all I do with my phone is restoring backups. With the Nexus I think that I would be more easily able to just stick with one ROM.. Maybe even the stock ROM, just rooting it.
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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U may have to wait for few weeks to get the full hands on review about this. Nexus 5. The specs r good. But we don't know about battery life, camera performance, and heating issues. Note 3 is good in these areas.
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I am planning on using the Note 3 with stock firmware from Samsung... because of warranty issues of knox trigger. This would also help on trying to reproduce bugs that appear on TouchWiz platform easier. So, having stock on Note3 sucks performance wise ?
efjbdejong said:
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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Perhaps wait for nokia lumia 1520.
That's ideal for such mundane tasks. Lol
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alleshi said:
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
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Note 3 is far better then note 2 for sure but is it the best ow no. It's a beast but not the best.
If i didn't have the Note 3 already i would be pretty tempted to buy the Nexus 5. It's half the price, here, with great hardware, Kit Kat, Google updates, etc. But those touch buttons (why?) on the screen are a no no for me.
Thank you all for replies. After doing a lot of reading on the Buyers remorse thread I see that most of note3 users are happy. The only notable problems are: very weak audio output because of the small speaker, the pink effect around black edges on low brightness settings and the wobbly home button. Also I see that the battery isn't so great.
I am really thinking what to get, as I said, the difference would be around 150$ in price.
If I didn't have N3 already I would have the N5. I had N4 previously.
N3 has plus and minus points.
+ points
Battery Life - best I ever had
SD Card - installed 64GB,some users have install 128GB.
Big Screen - I like the screen some don't like AMOLED colors.
Fastest CPU & 3GB RAM
Multi Window & Pen Window
IrDA port - can control devices from my phone.
- points
Design - not very stylish
Build quality - my back cover already creaks only 1 month old. Others have experienced Home button and screen/multi touch issues
External Speakers - embarrassing from Samsung.
Samsung bloatware - unnecessary
Wireless Charging - not built in but @ extra cost
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Costum ROM
why wouldn't you just wait on xda to get pure 4.4 android and install that ROM on your note 3 ?
Hi,
the Google Nexus 5 is indeed a very good phone. Having switched from Nexus 4 to Galaxy Note 3 I can basically give you good explanations.
The Galaxy Note 3 has plenty more features than the Google Nexus 4 abd 5 which is great.
I would say the Note 3 wins everywhere against the Nexus unless you tell me you prefer smaller screen. In my case, the screen size was the reasob why I moved.
On the otherside, yes there are a lot of Samsung apps and that sucks to me. The Galaxy Note 3 can be rooted easily, so you can easy remove those bloatwares which make me feel more confortable that way.
On the other hand, I do prefer the PURE Androis that the Google Nexus has to the TouchWiz by Samsung because it uses way less resources.
The perfect phone for me would be a Note 3 with a AOSP Rom. (CyanogenMod or Android Open Kang Project (AOKP) because it would give the pure android feeling which means higher battery life, no bloatwares, faster updates.
Ok guys, some N5 reviews have appeared and to be honest, things don't look that good in battery and camera departments. Actually that was kinda expected considering the 2300 mAh battery and 1080p screen.
Now back to note 3, all the small things that bothered me (wobbly home button, pinkish black borders, bloatware) are not important anymore. The things that worries me most is the screen burn in. I saw some reviews where this is mentioned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3mbkoXCMhs&feature=em-uploademail from 19 minute). I have own so far a Galaxy S1 and a Galaxy Nexus both having amoled screens. On my GNex sometimes I can see the keyboard shadow after using it, but I haven't really noticed any permanent retention as it goes off after a few seconds. I just did a quick check with blue color all over the screen and I can see a very faint shadow of the top bar, but nothing really noticeable. BUT, I use the phone on auto brightness and considering that Note 3 has the most bright amoled display built, I am afraid that it will suffer from permanent burn in because of blue pixels. Could anyone tell me if they have burn in ? This is a major drawback for me and might be the point which may convince me to give up on note3 in favor of N5.
Thanks all for your help. I really appreciate it.
For me it's so simple. They don't even belong to the same category.
Do you need/like the S-Pen features (and do you actually use them)? Do you need the bigger screen and the amazing Full HD @60fps video (let alone the 4K)?
If not then the Nexus 5 is a no brainer at this price point. Plain and simple.
Apps and bloatware are of no importance to me. I always remove them to my preference, to me flashing ROMs is an integral part of a smartphone like Note 3.
I agree with you, but if the screen has issues than all the other features are pointless, considering that the screen is the thing we see most.
It would be really great if owners could do some screen tests and return with the result.
Hey guys, you might have seen my grumpy threads lately. I have a Note 3 that I really like but it has come o my knowledge that the camera on this thing is horrendous at low light. I have tried playing around with settings and while there are sligth improvements, I cant say I am fully satisfied
I was wondering for those of y'all hthat have had a Note 2 (I never did), is the camera better and worth it enough to return the Note 3 and get a 2 off of eBay. With all the new features of the Note 3, does it outweigh the features of the Note 2.
Buying a 2 off of eBay would mean having unlocked AT&T one cause I've heard the Tmobile Note 2s earlier batch have no LTE ...using an AT&T Note 2 on a T mob network might mean no 4.3 updates for me?
What does the Note 3 have going for it that make it despite the camera a better phone than the Note 2 and would y'all go back to a Note 2 despite camera?
I'm not too much a power user but I appreciate multitasking and takign NOTES and doodling which is why I splurged on the Note 3. It has made a huge difference in my life already.
edo101 said:
Hey guys, you might have seen my grumpy threads lately. I have a Note 3 that I really like but it has come o my knowledge that the camera on this thing is horrendous at low light. I have tried playing around with settings and while there are sligth improvements, I cant say I am fully satisfied
I was wondering for those of y'all hthat have had a Note 2 (I never did), is the camera better and worth it enough to return the Note 3 and get a 2 off of eBay. With all the new features of the Note 3, does it outweigh the features of the Note 2.
Buying a 2 off of eBay would mean having unlocked AT&T one cause I've heard the Tmobile Note 2s earlier batch have no LTE ...using an AT&T Note 2 on a T mob network might mean no 4.3 updates for me?
What does the Note 3 have going for it that make it despite the camera a better phone than the Note 2 and would y'all go back to a Note 2 despite camera?
I'm not too much a power user but I appreciate multitasking and takign NOTES and doodling which is why I splurged on the Note 3. It has made a huge difference in my life already.
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The Note 3 is better than Note 2 in every sense possible. CPU, GPU, Camera, Screen, RAM, Sensors, S-Pen, design, some might argue battery. But personally, I just up to 9hrs screen on time. So I'll add battery to the list too. Bottom line, DO NOT go back to Note 2. If you want a low light performer, htc one is the way to go. Cheers.
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The Note 3 is better than Note 2 in every sense possible. CPU, GPU, Camera, Screen, RAM, Sensors, S-Pen, design, some might argue battery. But personally, I just up to 9hrs screen on time. So I'll add battery to the list too. Bottom line, DO NOT go back to Note 2. If you want a low light performer, htc one is the way to go. Cheers.
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I returned the Note 3 and I am trying the Note 2. Gonna experiment heavily for the next couple of days and if I don't see a big difference then it's back to Note 3. I'm already missing the native Action Memo and improved S pen.
I don't agree on the camera part yet. And it has to be a Note device because I cannot go back to using a bunch of paper for notes. I'm too disorganized for that
@stanley08
I agree with everything you said except for the camera and design.
Camera
More megapixels doesn't make a camera better. And if your priorities are low light, more MP can actually be a bad thing. I haven't been too thrilled with the camera on my note 3, but I think my expectations have become a little high. So if I was solely going for a good camera, I wouldn't choose the note 3 over the note 2.
Design
I definitely think the note 3's design looks a lot better than than the note 2's! no contest for me.
But as far as usability goes I think I'll give the nod to the note 2. The bigger bezels, the rounded corners and pebble shape all felt more comfortable in the hand than the note 3's sexier shape with thinner bezels.
@edo101
I myself was in a similar position albeit before I upgraded from my ancient 3gs.?
I had the note 2 in my sights for a while and by the time I'd saved the cash needed, the note 3 was out. Luckily I had the cash for either but didn't want to buy the note 3 just because it was the latest and greatest.
It was the look that tipped the scales for me(quite ironic, considering what I wrote above), the IR blaster, Air Command (this has been ported over, if you do get a note 2, search for: note 3 apps for note 2 thread) and scrapbooker(which I thought I'd use all the time to bookmark things of interest. But I still just take screen shots lol).
My Reasons to keep the Note 3 would be; The screen, IR Blaster, Battery Life, more guts (better internals), 4G & newer OS and more future support from Samsung (which might not necessarily be a good thing).
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@stanley08
I agree with everything you said except for the camera and design.
Camera
More megapixels doesn't make a camera better. And if your priorities are low light, more MP can actually be a bad thing. I haven't been too thrilled with the camera on my note 3, but I think my expectations have become a little high. So if I was solely going for a good camera, I wouldn't choose the note 3 over the note 2.
Design
I definitely think the note 3's design looks a lot better than than the note 2's! no contest for me.
But as far as usability goes I think I'll give the nod to the note 2. The bigger bezels, the rounded corners and pebble shape all felt more comfortable in the hand than the note 3's sexier shape with thinner bezels.
@edo101
I myself was in a similar position albeit before I upgraded from my ancient 3gs.?
I had the note 2 in my sights for a while and by the time I'd saved the cash needed, the note 3 was out. Luckily I had the cash for either but didn't want to buy the note 3 just because it was the latest and greatest.
It was the look that tipped the scales for me(quite ironic, considering what I wrote above), the IR blaster, Air Command (this has been ported over, if you do get a note 2, search for: note 3 apps for note 2 thread) and scrapbooker(which I thought I'd use all the time to bookmark things of interest. But I still just take screen shots lol).
My Reasons to keep the Note 3 would be; The screen, IR Blaster, Battery Life, more guts (better internals), 4G & newer OS and more future support from Samsung (which might not necessarily be a good thing).
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I needed to update my post. I am trying the Note 2. I really shoudl go and buy the note 3 from that store since i can afford to and try both simultaneously. I don't know why and i didn't expect it but the Note 3 camera has really turned me off. In the past I have never had to worry about having steady hands and constantly fidgeting with settings to get a decent indoor shot.
I do like the UI of Note 3 but I can already tell the Note 2 has a better camera. I SINCERELY MISS Air Command so I'm gonna have to look at a way to make it available on my note 2.
Now I bought the ntoe 2 locally for 460 tax included but I'm thinking of returning it if I am satisfied and getting one of off ebay for 350 max save a little money and not feel as bad. (I'd root it and hopefully get the Air command) then wait it out for a better camera on Note 4 I hope. does that sound like a good plan?
Oh and any insight on which version of Note 2 I should get, AT&T or Tmbile version. I am currently on MetroPCS which runs off of TMobile
The Note 2 has 4G LTE, I just miss the Note 3's UI (the screen I can manage lol) and the UI (especially camera UI) and AIR COMMAND
Everyone entitled to his own opinion I guess
But for me Note 3 is generally ALOT better than Note 2. However, I change my phones every 5 to 6 months and would be getting the next best thing soon so I don't really dwell on phones.
It's important to get what works better for u.
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Everyone entitled to his own opinion I guess
But for me Note 3 is generally ALOT better than Note 2. However, I change my phones every 5 to 6 months and would be getting the next best thing soon so I don't really dwell on phones.
It's important to get what works better for u.
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I can't do that without contract lol. And Sammy has spoiled me with the pen. Its made life soo much easier for a disorganized mess like me so I am sticking with Note line until someone makes an alternative (hopefully from nexus line for obvious reasons).
But man the Note 3 as perfect (especially that lovely pen and screen) but that friggin camera man.
I had the note 2 and found the camera better. But I also found the battety life and wifi better on my note 2.plus I get random reboots on note 3 .
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The only thing in note 2 camera that i like, is the capture field, is more wider. The note 3 camera is more narrow, so to capture more field in note 3 you need to step back more than note 2.
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The only thing in note 2 camera that i like, is the capture field, is more wider. The note 3 camera is more narrow, so to capture more field in note 3 you need to step back more than note 2.
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what did you find out when it comes to low light situations? I am missing the Note 3's screen and pen though
I'm sure there are ROMs I can get here to get Air command without going through Samsung's 4.3 glitchy KNOX edition
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I can't do that without contract lol. And Sammy has spoiled me with the pen. Its made life soo much easier for a disorganized mess like me so I am sticking with Note line until someone makes an alternative (hopefully from nexus line for obvious reasons).
But man the Note 3 as perfect (especially that lovely pen and screen) but that friggin camera man.
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I guess I know the reason(but not exactly sure) why note3 got weird slow camera behaviour because the same problem actually appeared on gs4 as well. I've PMed you and asked for some questions, please check it out.
I had the note 2 and now I have the note 3. I miss the fireworks and night mode. At nightime the note 2 was way better in my opinion. Plus on note 3 less battery life and loads more crapware. And poor wifi.
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I have seen so many posts related to poor wifi on the n9005. I just dont understand it.. surely people are getting faulty units? My wifi is better than my i9100.. and i used to think that was good!
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I had the note 2 before, and I have to say that the 2 typical hardware problems remained:
Camera is crap on low light
low wifi and hsdpa signal
I think thats really sad on a phone like that.... if i want to make pictures at a party with barely light, i sometimes wish my old iphone 4 back with iOS you can't do so much, but the things you can do, you can do in perfection.... who needs 12MP on a blurry picture?
it's really not that difficult to look for a camera modul that is appropriate to a 800$ phone, instead of developing more and more additional funtions that no one uses until it's a complete sw-chaos
I got the note 4 yesterday, a day ahead of most people. I've been testing it throughly and to my shock, I'm finding my note 3 running MOAR to be working faster, longer, and better.
Take for example the photo below. The note 4 is on the left and the note 3 running MOAR on the right. Isn't it amazing the difference in quality?
I don't blame the phone. I blame 4.4.4 for messing up what could have been an awesome smart phone. I'm returning mine today.
Battery? The note 4 battery is at 48% at 1:00 pm while my note 3 is at 80%. I use gsam battery and it breaks down what is using battery and the system and kernel on the note 4 are using almost 30% while the note 3 uses about 18%.
So, for all those of you that own a note 3, beware, you will be disappointed if you upgrade.
And if my advise saved you from disappointment, I believe a thank you would be in order.
new battery ........ give it a week of cycles
Samsung came out and said there was an issue with the battery last week. They have already issued an update. Tmobile started getting it today. We should be getting it in the ne,t fews days. Search google for comparisons of this version and the update. Battery seems fixed after the update.
I actually think the lefthand picture looks better.
Brighter doesn't mean better.
Hard to compare something you've used for a year to something you just got. Give it some time.
Good to hear they've got a fix for the battery. Actually, I flashed 4.4.4 on my note 3 and it was eating up my battery as well. Hope they release a fix for those that upgraded their note 3s to 4.4.4.
But seriously, the camera was my biggest disappointment.
And the photos don't lie.
I guess that if there is any good news is that the note 4 will be the first one to get lollipop and that should take care of many issues. Feb my bet.
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I actually think the lefthand picture looks better.
Brighter doesn't mean better.
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Good to hear they've got a fix for the battery. Actually, I flashed 4.4.4 on my note 3 and it was eating up my battery as well. Hope they release a fix for those that upgraded their note 3s to 4.4.4.
But seriously, the camera was my biggest disappointment.
And the photos don't lie.
I guess that if there is any good news is that the note 4 will be the first one to get lollipop and that should take care of many issues. Feb my bet.
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I'm gonna have to agree ENkrypt.. The picture on the left looks much clearer and realistic while the one on the right looks way off like a insta gram filter was on top of it (excuse my lack of the appropriate vocabulary in describing camera quality).
And I ditto the fact that you need to give the new battery some full to dead cycles before you can make an accurate statement on the battery life. Also of course on your Note 3 with MOAR has plenty of the bloat and pointless background processes removed which play a huge factor.
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I'm in phone envy. I could kick myself in the ass right now for getting the s5 when it came out and not waiting for the note4
Turn off Auto adjust screen tone in display settings!
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I'm in phone envy. I could kick myself in the ass right now for getting the s5 when it came out and not waiting for the note4
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Told my sister to wait and she is glad she listened.
Why did you upgrade to the S5?
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Told my sister to wait and she is glad she listened.
Why did you upgrade to the S5?
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Was sitting on an upgrade. And had an s3
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I got the note 4 yesterday, a day ahead of most people. I've been testing it throughly and to my shock, I'm finding my note 3 running MOAR to be working faster, longer, and better.
Take for example the photo below. The note 4 is on the left and the note 3 running MOAR on the right. Isn't it amazing the difference in quality?
I don't blame the phone. I blame 4.4.4 for messing up what could have been an awesome smart phone. I'm returning mine today.
Battery? The note 4 battery is at 48% at 1:00 pm while my note 3 is at 80%. I use gsam battery and it breaks down what is using battery and the system and kernel on the note 4 are using almost 30% while the note 3 uses about 18%.
So, for all those of you that own a note 3, beware, you will be disappointed if you upgrade.
And if my advise saved you from disappointment, I believe a thank you would be in order.
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It seems like you don't want to like the phone. Lol. First, you are comparing performance between a phone that has stock firmware on it to a phone that is rooted and has an optimized custom rom. That's not a comparison. As far as the pictures, I'm agreeing with everyone else the one on the left looks better. The one on the right looks like you either have a filter on it or flash. And it still doesn't look as good as the other. The Note 3 is a great phone, but the 4 is just better. And the cameras are definitely night and day. But to each his own. You won't know what you are missing once the devs start to give this thing some love.
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Note 4 is not that huge as an upgrade. Should stick to note 3 till note 5 comes or you got alot of money.
Nope. I don't agree that it isn't a big enough upgrade. The camera is better. The screen is better. The pen is better. The multi window is easier. I love the fingerprint scanner -- which is the thing I thought I'd have no use for! It feels better in my hand. I know I'll find more as I use the phone, but so far I think it was a great upgrade from the Note 3.
Samsung Rolled out an OTA update to fix battery problem on the launch day.
and for camera try using other camera apps and then please inform me about cam result. Congrats for a New Note 4. :thumbup:
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I respect all of your opinions and I'm leaving your remarks as they stand. I am an android enthusiast and was looking forward to the note 4. But I'm totally bummed out, because it's not what they told us in all those youTube videos. Here's my analysis:
1. SIRI finally found human, one button access, works.* Google Now also works on note 4, not note 3.
2. Camera is sub-par to MOAR on note 3, but Turning off HDR makes photos acceptable.* Completed multiple photos. Note 3 is unquestionable the better camera: saturation, clarity, color, etc.
3.Battery:* Android sys consumers 30% plus of battery.* Forums say there's a patch coming.* After testing both batteries, note 4 is holding more power than note 3.
4. Found a cool case on Amazon.
5. The new multi window feature is a lie. doesn't work because it's app depended, not hardware depended.
6. Not rooted.* Android L (lollipop) is probably months away.* Hackers will have a note 3 version before the official release for note 3.
7. Can't use any of my rooted apps or features like moving apps to ext card.
8.* Rebate from Samsung smells like a rip-off.* They advertised a $200 rebate, but fine print days otherwise.* It says it's $200 minus value of tradein.
9. I will have to buy new batteries.
10.* No significant increase on speed or performance. Same as note 3.
11. My note 3 is running smooth. Just minor bugs that are doable.
12. Will get my $375.00 refunded.
13. Maybe note 5 will be the one with major improvements. Note 4 improvements over note 3 are really minor in comparison.
14. Well, I discovered that if I hold down right button, I can still access menu.* Many apps haven't placed the menu on top right like Google asked.* No QC.
15. I do have 12 days to **** with it before returning. Put the nice case on it and continue experimenting.
16. It's full potential will not be reached until I rooted it and get rid of 4.4.4
17. Speaker is now on the back, not at the bottom where you can heart it.
18. Honestly believe note 4 camera flash to be weaker.
19. Damn, I ripped off the velcro. Will have to get more velcro.
20. It was expected to be water proof like the Galaxy S5,* but it's not water proof.
21. The stylus does have nice feature. It works now like mouse. You can freely highlight text unlike the note 3 that you have to curse and pray simultaneously to capture text.
22. The USSA app still won't split into multi window mode.
23. I'll do full battery comparison today.
24. YouTube has adds on note 4, not note 3.
25. Just watched YouTube video and note 3 screen is way brighter than note 4.
26. Videos load faster on note 3.
27. I set both displays to auto and note 3 is definitely brighter and easier to see.
28.Programs open slightly faster on note 3.
29. Even though note 4 allows you to copy and paste,* I can buy app (which I will) that gives same capability to note 3.
30. Most apps on note 4 can't be minimized.
31. Watching netflix you can't tell difference of screen quality.
32. Speaker:* Note 3 has better speaker sound and location.* Speaker on back was not good idea.
33. The note 4 has only one antenna and thus you can't make a call and. surf at the same time.
So take it for what it's worth. In a way, I'm proud that all my hacking with my note 3 produced a better phone. Those who wish to argue, fuzz, and complain about my remarks, go for it. I'm a ex-combat warrior. My skin is thick.
Hmmmm.... I've seen a post like this before.
On the Note 2 vs Note 3 thread...
I went from my Note 3 to the Note 4 and so far I am happy with my new phone. The screen is absolutely gorgeous!
I was eligible for an upgrade so I didn't have to pay a dime for my Note 4. I do not think the differences are enough to run out and sell your Note 3 either.
One thing I do not like about the Note 4 is the speaker is now on the back of the phone. I absolutely hate that!! The phone is very fast and my battery life is outstanding. I also love how I can charge my phone in like 30 mins.
I have had the 2, the 3 , and now the 4. I still have my 3 and the wifey has the 2. Here's my take on the 3 vs 4. The new screen is ridiculous. I bought the 4 just for the screen actually. The brightness outdoors, on auto brightness the 4 is slightly brighter. Some don't like the speaker on the back but I do. When I don't have my headphones, the sound reverberates better when on the kickstand than the 3, shooting the sound to the right. I always found myself cupping my hand near the speaker to hear the sound. The speaker may not sound as good as the 3 but it is way louder than the 3. I remember everyone saying that the 3 wasn't that great of an upgrade over the 2. Personally it was well worth it.
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I respect all of your opinions and I'm leaving your remarks as they stand. I am an android enthusiast and was looking forward to the note 4. But I'm totally bummed out, because it's not what they told us in all those youTube videos. Here's my analysis:
1. SIRI finally found human, one button access, works.* Google Now also works on note 4, not note 3.
2. Camera is sub-par to MOAR on note 3, but Turning off HDR makes photos acceptable.* Completed multiple photos. Note 3 is unquestionable the better camera: saturation, clarity, color, etc.
3.Battery:* Android sys consumers 30% plus of battery.* Forums say there's a patch coming.* After testing both batteries, note 4 is holding more power than note 3.
4. Found a cool case on Amazon.
5. The new multi window feature is a lie. doesn't work because it's app depended, not hardware depended.
6. Not rooted.* Android L (lollipop) is probably months away.* Hackers will have a note 3 version before the official release for note 3.
7. Can't use any of my rooted apps or features like moving apps to ext card.
8.* Rebate from Samsung smells like a rip-off.* They advertised a $200 rebate, but fine print days otherwise.* It says it's $200 minus value of tradein.
9. I will have to buy new batteries.
10.* No significant increase on speed or performance. Same as note 3.
11. My note 3 is running smooth. Just minor bugs that are doable.
12. Will get my $375.00 refunded.
13. Maybe note 5 will be the one with major improvements. Note 4 improvements over note 3 are really minor in comparison.
14. Well, I discovered that if I hold down right button, I can still access menu.* Many apps haven't placed the menu on top right like Google asked.* No QC.
15. I do have 12 days to **** with it before returning. Put the nice case on it and continue experimenting.
16. It's full potential will not be reached until I rooted it and get rid of 4.4.4
17. Speaker is now on the back, not at the bottom where you can heart it.
18. Honestly believe note 4 camera flash to be weaker.
19. Damn, I ripped off the velcro. Will have to get more velcro.
20. It was expected to be water proof like the Galaxy S5,* but it's not water proof.
21. The stylus does have nice feature. It works now like mouse. You can freely highlight text unlike the note 3 that you have to curse and pray simultaneously to capture text.
22. The USSA app still won't split into multi window mode.
23. I'll do full battery comparison today.
24. YouTube has adds on note 4, not note 3.
25. Just watched YouTube video and note 3 screen is way brighter than note 4.
26. Videos load faster on note 3.
27. I set both displays to auto and note 3 is definitely brighter and easier to see.
28.Programs open slightly faster on note 3.
29. Even though note 4 allows you to copy and paste,* I can buy app (which I will) that gives same capability to note 3.
30. Most apps on note 4 can't be minimized.
31. Watching netflix you can't tell difference of screen quality.
32. Speaker:* Note 3 has better speaker sound and location.* Speaker on back was not good idea.
33. The note 4 has only one antenna and thus you can't make a call and. surf at the same time.
So take it for what it's worth. In a way, I'm proud that all my hacking with my note 3 produced a better phone. Those who wish to argue, fuzz, and complain about my remarks, go for it. I'm a ex-combat warrior. My skin is thick.
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Some of the things you posted are opinions, i won't comment on them. But other things either don't make sense according to facts or you are comparing a stock samsung rom to a custom rom. There is no comparison there. I kinda wonder if you are trolling.
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