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I am still not too happy with the battery of the Galaxy, even though it should be conditioned by now. Nowhere near as good as the iPhone 3Gs, even though the 45nm chip in the galaxy, as well as the AMOLED screen, should be benefitial to battery life.
Maybe a good benchmark would be to see what readings people get at the time of the first "Low Battery" warning. You can see what depleted your battery by going to Settings/About/Phone/Battery Use. To get details, touch the corresponding bar in the graph.
Mine are:
20h 32m 4s since unplugged
Display: 38% (1h 54m)
Cell standby: 24%
Phone idle" 16%
Android OS 10% (CPU usage 50m 4s)
Voice calls: 6% (2m 54s --- WTF?!)
Android System: 4%
K-9 Mail: 2%
Advanced Task Killer: 2%
Those numbers look good to me somehow, I wouldn't expect better battery life after using the display for 2 hours and another 19 hours of standby? Especially as the phone can easily stand by another few hours on the last 15%...
i just got my phone recently, i'll post my results after a few weeks of daily usage.
i do a lot of 3G+, WiFi and SMS, not so much voice call, but regularly enough like two or 3 calls a day
that should be a pretty good test to see how long the battery last from full to like 20% that's when i usually recharge my phone if i don't carry a spare battery with me
Robin.B said:
Those numbers look good to me somehow, I wouldn't expect better battery life after using the display for 2 hours and another 19 hours of standby? Especially as the phone can easily stand by another few hours on the last 15%...
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It depends on what you compare it to, I guess.
I am comparing it to my old iPhone 3Gs, which would last about 48 hours, usually with considerably longer talk time than the 2m 54s I have on the Galaxy S. How can less than 3 minutes of talk show 6% battery drain?!
As I noted, the Galaxy S's smaller die (45nm) and AMOLED screen should be an advantage over the iPhone 3Gs's older hardware, yet the iPhone lasts markedly longer.
Anyway, I just wanted to see what others are seeing and how long their phones are lasting. It might be interesting to many others, too.
The galaxy S holds considerably longer than the iPhone 3GS. Probably longer than the iPhone 4 as well.
My current stats:
2D 0H 33M 41S Since unplugged
Voice calls: 34% (38m 37s)
Cell Standby: 28%
Phone idle: 19%
Display: 18%
Funny, it doesn't show the time when i played SandStorm and Asphalt.
Oh, and my current battery level: 66%
If i skimp on the battery, i can hold 5 days between charges.
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...2D 0H 33M 41S Since unplugged
Voice calls: 34% (38m 37s)
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If i skimp on the battery, i can hold 5 days between charges.
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WOW! This is just amazing!
How long was your screen on for only 18%? (I have mine set at the dimmest, but still....)
Do you use email much and if so, how many accounts and often do you have the phone checking it?
Wait, you use tons of WiFi and you're suprised that the phone won't hold too much?
In contrast to the iphones that require you to manually search for a network, android ACTIVELY searches for local open networks and connects to them.
When you're not using WiFi- TURN IT OFF.
If you're talking about cellular internet, that's another thing.
And the display (set to medium-low brightness, the brightest mode where it doesn't BURN MY EYES. Damn this display is bright) registers 1h 27m.
Pika007 said:
The galaxy S holds considerably longer than the iPhone 3GS. Probably longer than the iPhone 4 as well.
My current stats:
2D 0H 33M 41S Since unplugged
Voice calls: 34% (38m 37s)
Cell Standby: 28%
Phone idle: 19%
Display: 18%
Funny, it doesn't show the time when i played SandStorm and Asphalt.
Oh, and my current battery level: 66%
If i skimp on the battery, i can hold 5 days between charges.
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Are we talking about the same phone? It's impossible!
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Wait, you use tons of WiFi and you're suprised that the phone won't hold too much?
In contrast to the iphones that require you to manually search for a network, android ACTIVELY searches for local open networks and connects to them.
When you're not using WiFi- TURN IT OFF....
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For what it's worth, my WiFi has been off for most of the day.
But, on WiFi discovey, my experience has been the opposite.
On the iPhone 3Gs, I always had WiFi and BT turned on. if I was not connected to WiFi, but WiFi became available, the iPhone would bring up a pop up, asking me if I want to connect to the network.
With te Galaxy S, I can have WiFi Notifications on, but unless I search for a network (usually by turning WiFi off, then back on), it doesn't inform me of available networks.
To boot, even though it remembers both my home and office networks, half the time it does not sign in automatically when I enter the area, but I have to do the off/on thing to get signed on
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Are we talking about the same phone? It's impossible!
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The pictures are HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE, but the info is all there.
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8025/dscn0044s.jpg
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2236/dscn0042r.jpg
Point&shoot camera, single hand, and it's 3:33AM. You'll have to forgive me for the horrible quality of the pics.
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The pictures are HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE, but the info is all there.
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8025/dscn0044s.jpg
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2236/dscn0042r.jpg
Point&shoot camera, single hand, and it's 3:33AM. You'll have to forgive me for the horrible quality of the pics.
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Well consider yourself lucky! you got an amazing battery from the future or something, because this is not what we are all seeing... I get a decent 30 hours with mine max...
Can you tell us how long is the display time ?
My guess is that I could stay 2 days with my phone if I was never swithcing on the screen.
The thing is that you seems to use your phone like I was using my old nokia 6310 ...
Try to play some music or video and you won't last 5 days or even 2days ... maybe 1 if you are lucky
Basically you have left your phone switch off 2 days and call 38mn and that's all ?? I can't tell you that my old iphone3GS is going to be pretty close in term of performance of battery
given that 1h54 give 38% of 85% for the OP I would say that you have maybe 20mn of display
The battery life of my SGS was terrible for the first few days of use. I don't have the battery usage numbers but the battery would only last for around 20 hours doing: 30-60 min call, 2hour music, 30mins video, 30mins game, and approx. 40mins web surf using mostly wifi.
But after about 5 charging cycles (discharging until battery ran low and the phone eventually turns off, then charging the phone to full), the phone lasts for two whole days with the same usage described above each day!
So I have noticed a significant improvement in battery.
If you haven't gone through the charging cycle and your phone is relatively new, give it a week before you think the battery life is crap
yeah I am still waiting for the improvment
After almost 2 weeks , a dozain of cycle I still don't see it coming ...
I guess I must be using the screen too much ( miminum light) ...
Afert 12h46 I am at 25% with 65% taken by the display , 10% by cell idle, 8% by android , 6% by network idle, 4% by call ...
I have already used the screen 3h14mn
I don't know what you do but on my side I am reading my mails, reading xda, reading some newspaper on the train, watching some video ...
So my crappy battery doens't seem to come from some app draining it ... but just from the display.
So basically nothing I could do except using it less than what I am used to
Display time was 1h 27m
mine last around 10h (display on 4,5h) and thats as low as u can adjust brightness in settings according to gsmarena blog display can last up to 10h...
im using dimmer app now. hope i get 5-6h (display time) with that.
ok i'll play:
10hr:10min since last unplugged.
Battery at 74%
Display: 50% (I leave it on auto brightness)
Cell Standby:19%
Phone Idle: 12%
Bluetooth: 8%
NDrive: 7%
Android System: 2%
I'm happy with that.
I'm easily getting through a 15 hour day with moderate use (my normal usage pattern). this is on a par with my previous Nexus One and iPhone 3G.
BTW, I keep the WiFi on persistently (even when the screen is off) because I heard it draws less juice than the 3G/phone data. (I typically spend a lot of time around the house on WiFi ...)
Battery killer is normally "time without signal", the N1 would average maybe 70% without a signal, the SGS is averaging around 30% without a signal - so based on that perhaps the battery isn't quite as robust as the N1 (which was on Froyo).
Anyway, I have no concerns about my SGS battery based on similar phones and usage patterns. I will be tempted to get an extended battery for it though (I had a Mugen 3200mAh on the N1 and that would give me 2 days under quite heavy usage).
BTW, I keep the WiFi on persistently (even when the screen is off) because I heard it draws less juice than the 3G/phone data.
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Are you sure about this? I thought I noticed much better battery life when I started to switch wifi off and using 3g instead. I guess it could just be my battery maturing
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Are you sure about this? I thought I noticed much better battery life when I started to switch wifi off and using 3g instead. I guess it could just be my battery maturing
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Keeping the WiFi policy to never disconnect apparently uses less battery than the system thrashing between 3G and non-3G data when sync'ing etc. Typically WiFi will show as 2% battery usage at the end of the cycle.
I base it off my old N1 usage, which I got from here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=006a844d7d335a90&hl=en
Just switched from my 2 yrs old iPhone 4 to this latest nexus 4. I noticed the standby mode is drain the battery much more significant than my old iPhone 4..
14% drop in less than 2hrs off the plug and only about 22 main of screen time. Is this normal? GPS off, WiFi off since I left my house, just a few minutes after unplug from the main.
Is this normal?
No. That does not seem normal. It may be a service running in the background not allowing the phone to sleep properly. You should be able to use the battery usage display to try track down what it is
Good luck
Rellikzephyr
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That is actually normal. Use deep sleep battery saver or turn mobile data off when not using your phone. It empties my battery really quick too.
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it depends. some days i am able to get 65% after 16 hours of little usage everything still turned on and some days the battery loses charge very quickly in standby if i am in an area going in and out of reception as it struggles to get bars. just check the battery stats and if maps is using a lot of battery then i would recommend turning off location reporting. also, you can try juicedefender to automatically turn off connectivity when the screen is off but it can be kind of annoying but it works well
Keep in mind, the display area of the Nexus 4 is 72.37% larger than an iPhone 4.
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it depends. some days i am able to get 65% after 16 hours of little usage everything still turned on and some days the battery loses charge very quickly in standby if i am in an area going in and out of reception as it struggles to get bars. just check the battery stats and if maps is using a lot of battery then i would recommend turning off location reporting. also, you can try juicedefender to automatically turn off connectivity when the screen is off but it can be kind of annoying but it works well
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Um... that's a bit annoying. I have already turned off GPS (location service). I would expect this late 2012 phone to be at least at par with my 2+ years old iPhone 4 in terms of battery. But now, the 2 year plus Crapple phone seems to be winning the race.
Really love all of the Nexus 4, just that the battery life is putting me a bit off... ;-(
It's a manufacturer's defect with some Nexus 4s that prevents the OS from going into deep sleep mode. I know this because I've had 12 separate Nexus 4s in my possession now. A good unit will remain at 100% for 3+ hours of nothing but deep sleep with the exception of turning on the screen a few times to check battery percentage. A bad unit will drain 20+% in the same time.
The good news is I hear a fix is on its way from Google.
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Um... that's a bit annoying. I have already turned off GPS (location service). I would expect this late 2012 phone to be at least at par with my 2+ years old iPhone 4 in terms of battery. But now, the 2 year plus Crapple phone seems to be winning the race.
Really love all of the Nexus 4, just that the battery life is putting me a bit off... ;-(
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This looks pretty normal.
At best on mobile data you can expect about 10% battery drain per 25-30min of screen on time.
With WiFi, 35-40min of screen on time per 10% battery.
That's been my experience at least.
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It's a manufacturer's defect with some Nexus 4s that prevents the OS from going into deep sleep mode. I know this because I've had 12 separate Nexus 4s in my possession now. A good unit will remain at 100% for 3+ hours of nothing but deep sleep with the exception of turning on the screen a few times to check battery percentage. A bad unit will drain 20+% in the same time.
The good news is I hear a fix is on its way from Google.
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Do you mean that Google is putting together a software fix?? that mean it's a software glitch? but why would you have different battery drainage experience if all those hardware are running same software?
But if it is hardware defect of manufacturer, how can a Google fix it with an update?
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Just switched from my 2 yrs old iPhone 4 to this latest nexus 4. I noticed the standby mode is drain the battery much more significant than my old iPhone 4..
14% drop in less than 2hrs off the plug and only about 22 main of screen time. Is this normal? GPS off, WiFi off since I left my house, just a few minutes after unplug from the main.
Is this normal?
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OP, your battery drain is normal unfortunately. This phone doesn't do well when the screen is on, while on 3G. Most people can get 3-4 hours of screen on time at best on 3G. You're at 86% after 23 minutes, which equates to about 2.74 hours of screen on time. Unfortunately that's probably pretty accurate. Especially if your brightness is higher than 10%. My Galaxy Nexus used to do a little bit better, and reportedly the S3 does a lot better on 3G.
Not H or 3G data but, impressive nevertheless. Root & unlock your phone, flash rasbean (rom) & matr1x (kernel) and enjoy the benefits.
Also, put phone on 2g if you don't surf the web. Much easier on the battery.
dralways said:
It's a manufacturer's defect with some Nexus 4s that prevents the OS from going into deep sleep mode. I know this because I've had 12 separate Nexus 4s in my possession now. A good unit will remain at 100% for 3+ hours of nothing but deep sleep with the exception of turning on the screen a few times to check battery percentage. A bad unit will drain 20+% in the same time.
The good news is I hear a fix is on its way from Google.
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This might be the dumbest thing I have read on these forums.
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joshnichols189 said:
This might be the dumbest thing I have read on these forums.
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::thumbsup::
The fix part is mere hearsay but here's to hoping for the folk stuck with this terrible flaw.
Vangelis13 said:
Not H or 3G data but, impressive nevertheless. Root & unlock your phone, flash rasbean (rom) & matr1x (kernel) and enjoy the benefits.
Also, put phone on 2g if you don't surf the web. Much easier on the battery.
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Have you tried franco kernel? Is Matr1X better than that?
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Have you tried franco kernel? Is Matr1X better than that?
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No, not yet. Will do soon though. Matr1x is insane though, give it a spin!
7% of battery overnight.
Wifi, 3G, google now and side clock on.
Is this normal?
Standby Cell=2% (5h on time)
Android OS =1% (13m cpu)
Standby Device = 1% (4m cpu, 28m active)
I too loose between 5-7% overnight (8 Hours). Although the battery life of Edge+ is pretty good while in use, I have noticed that standby of the device isn't as impressive as earlier Note variants (Yes, I'm comparing with Note series).
WiFi - ON
Auto Sync - ON
2-3 Apps with Notification ON
Samsung Pay on Screen Off - ON
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I too loose between 5-7% overnight (8 Hours). Although the battery life of Edge+ is pretty good while in use, I have noticed that standby of the device isn't as impressive as earlier Note variants (Yes, I'm comparing with Note series).
WiFi - ON
Auto Sync - ON
2-3 Apps with Notification ON
Samsung Pay on Screen Off - ON
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My CPU status overnight
thegios said:
My CPU status overnight
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Your CPU seems to be idle 95% of the time! I never checked mine but yes, mine drops that much too! I don't think that's a rare case with this phone!
Ok so it is good right?
Then why it drains so much overnight?
Depinding on my signal strenght ,i saw -10% overnight ,ok maybe i slept like 10 hrs insted of 7-8 but still . Battery info said that the juice went to Cell signal standby or something like that.
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Depinding on my signal strenght ,i saw -10% overnight ,ok maybe i slept like 10 hrs insted of 7-8 but still . Battery info said that the juice went to Cell signal standby or something like that.
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yep, same here... so maybe it depends on the strength and quality of cell signal..
will test in the next days...
I am sure it cannot be any samsung app/service as I have disable 200 of them with package disabler pro
also, location/3g/wifi/sync/googlenow always on is the same setup I had on OnePlus One, that was using barely .5% per hour
it also true that on the OnePlusOne I could also turn off the notification light during night, while with this I cannot so it could happen that the light keeps on flashing for 5 hours, draining battery
also, I have edge clock on at night, still some drining...
I thought the deep sleep or idle drain was caused by lollipop, no? I lose over 10% from a 7hr sleep, even if I turn the WiFi off. WiFi eats up a lot of my battery for some reason, and I know my connection was good too.
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It's been 5 nights and I confirm it drains 1% per hour.
This is my usage really bad...
8% in 6h
Night clock on
Wi-Fi on
4G on
Sync on
I received 5 emails so notification light has been blinking for almost 5h
Don't understand, cos stats are not that bad...
Think yourself lucky. I'm losing 50% overnight.
Battery life impressive during the day though
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Think yourself lucky. I'm losing 50% overnight.
Battery life impressive during the day though
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I solved my problem: night watch...
With night watch on I lose 1% per hour at night, with night watch off I lose 2% in 6h
I was consistently losing 2%-3% per hour overnight. But once I found an overactive app (Plume) and changed from instant notifications to 30 minute polling, my battery life has drastically improved. I've also used Package Disabler to disable bloatware on my device.
The past couple days my battery has been around 97% - 98% when I wake up in the morning.
What are you guys seeing as "normal" sot? I know there are many variables but I also find that at the 2.5 hours the phone has been off the charger, I'm already at 75% with only 1 hour of sot. I am stock with power saver turned on even and no rogue apps listed in Gsam Battery Monitor. Bought the phone on Friday..... Call me confused.
I'm getting about 4 to 4 and a half hours SOT. Seems like the display on the HTC 10 is a major power hog.
In terms of optimization they did a fantastic job as my radio is only listed as using 3% of my total battery and app usage is only 21% according to GSAM, meanwhile Screen has used 72% of my battery, and I tend to run the display at a pretty low brightness (about 20-25% brightness) I have 22% battery remaining and screen on time so far of 3:38
Running full brightness all day without power saver, my record so far is 4.5 hours, generally though I only need about 3 hours or so out of it per day, and 3 or 3.5 hours is my average.
How's your signal strength?
I guess I am around a similar time frame then. I hit 5 hours yesterday but like you, the screen is pretty low and it still eats up the battery pretty good. I guess Ill have to "optimize" a little better.
Signal strength is not great. I do bounce around band 25,26, and 41 quite often but my signal strength meter under the battery settings is a mess of a rainbow. Here's to an update heading our way soon...
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Google Pixel 3 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
So 3rd day and these are my stats.
30% Wifi 70% LTE
Location when needed bluetooth off. AOD on pickup and new notifications only.
I am pretty consistently getting to 20% battery with 4 hours of screen time regardless of my usage. I'm mostly on wifi, probably 90% of the time.
I'm surprisingly getting an hour less than my pixel 2. It's around 5 hours.
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I'm surprisingly getting an hour less than my pixel 2. It's around 5 hours.
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The Pixel 3 has a 13% larger screen and 13% more pixels than the Pixel 2 with only an 8% bigger battery. Getting less battery life isn't a surprise at all.
What is a surprise is your claim that the Pixel 2 got 6 hours. With a 5" 1080p screen and only a 2700mAh battery I have a hard time believing anything more than about 4.5 hours.
Mix of Wi-Fi and walking around on LTE for a few hours outside
Its kinda bad. My brother cant get over 5 hours sot and the standby drain is really high. If he keeps it idle it drains alot.
I've had my Pixel 3 XL for roughly 7 days now and SOT have been consistent around 4:30 - 5:15 hrs going from 95 - 20 percent discharges before I recharge.
Not bad, but I have to admit that I was expecting something better like easily reaching 6+ hrs for normal usage.
My last hope is that boy "Adaptive Battery" if it would help after couple of weeks at learning curve.
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Its kinda bad. My brother cant get over 5 hours sot and the standby drain is really high. If he keeps it idle it drains alot.
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Try turning off the Always ON display. It drains the battery a lot. Initially i was getting 5 hrs max on wifi. Now its a little stable and i am able to clock around 8hrs SOT with average use. On LTE, it will drop drastically to 5hrs maybe.
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I've have pretty bad result being pretty much 95% on wifi with low app usage
I'm seeing mixed results with SoT on two separate Pixel 3s. On my SO's Pixel 3 its getting 8 hours while mine is only getting closer to 3-4 hrs and she is a heavier user than me usually. Seems to me that the information the adaptive battery has on usage matter a great deal on your battery life. I opted to start fresh on my Pixel 3 while she opted to transfer from an older Pixel.
Getting consistent 6-7 hours of SoT without ambient display, half WiFi, half data and some Bluetooth usage. Using amoled black or dark mode with many apps and an amoled themed wallpaper. This is at 90% brightness. Quite impressed.
getting 5/6h SOT
Screen brightness at about 75%, and nightmode at the end of the day.
Mix of WIFI/ LTE during day and Bluetooth in the car obviously.
So far impressed since the size of the battery is small compared to other devices.
My HTC u11+ was getting about 6h SOT with a much much larger battery capacity.
I'll be the first to admit I dont have much running in the background right now, but I'm still pleased. In case the links don't work -- 6 h 30 m screen on time. Phone charged 20 hours ago. (I'm not usually that heavy of a user, just wanted to see how it would fare in the real world. ) Mix of WiFi, LTE, bluetooth on about half the time.
How?
Use battery saving mode on time. I'm getting similar results. I accidently plugged in the charger at the last bit (thought I took the screenshot but I didn't) but you can see it only charged about 2%.
1 Hour of Screen on Time???
I just received my Pixel 3 3 days ago, and the battery is awful. 1 hour of Screen on time? Is this normal?
I was barely using any apps.
"I just received my Pixel 3 3 days ago, and the battery is awful. 1 hour of Screen on time? Is this normal?
I was barely using any apps.
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You're using ambient display, turn it off for a day which should resolve all your issues. Yes it means you'll have to wake up the phone in order to see whatever messages you may or may not have received. But it'll extend the battery time.
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"I just received my Pixel 3 3 days ago, and the battery is awful. 1 hour of Screen on time? Is this normal?
I was barely using any apps.
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You're using ambient display, turn it off for a day which should resolve all your issues. Yes it means you'll have to wake up the phone in order to see whatever messages you may or may not have received. But it'll extend the battery time.
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I was having bad battery life too and wanted to sell it for the OnePlus 6T. What I did was left on battery saver all day and it worked out pretty good. Try that for now and see how it works for you.
YorbenB said:
"I just received my Pixel 3 3 days ago, and the battery is awful. 1 hour of Screen on time? Is this normal?
I was barely using any apps.
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You're using ambient display, turn it off for a day which should resolve all your issues. Yes it means you'll have to wake up the phone in order to see whatever messages you may or may not have received. But it'll extend the battery time.
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I was having bad battery life too and wanted to sell it for the OnePlus 6T. What I did was left on battery saver all day and it worked out pretty good. Try that for now and see how it works for you.
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If you opted to start from scratch when you set up your Pixel 3 and did not transfer the data from a device that already has the adaptive battery feature getting about 1 hour of SoT seems to be normal based on my experience. I haven't been able to confirm this, but based on my experience the adaptive battery feature seems to use machine learning. It learns what apps you use over time and how often you use them. The more data it has, the better the battery life you will get. It took about 3 weeks for my battery to settle down. Currently, my battery is estimated to last about 17 hours from a full charge. My suspicion is that the Pixel 3 start out running everything you install and slowly learns how aggressive it should limit the battery usage of an app. Aside from leaving it on battery saver, I would also recommend not charging it overnight a couple of days and letting it sit there. That seems to have helped me with the battery life and my device knowing to limit apps I don't use frequently.