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Hey, sorry for the N00b question. I'm a software developer (among other things), but am just now delving into the world of custom ROMs for my EVO 4g. I've been looking at what's available and see a few that say either AOSP or NOT AOSP.
This leads me to a few questions.
1. What is AOSP?
- Is it a separate code base (other than 3.70.651.1 #15) from which to start customizing the code to create a custom ROM?
2. What are the main differences that are generally present between the normal code base and AOSP based?
3. Can you go back to a ROM based on 3.70.651.1 (or another base) if you go AOSP?
4. If it is a custom code base, whas it created from scratch or based on something else?
Thanks for your time in answering this. If I'm way off base on what AOSP is, just let me know. I appreciate your replies!
Simple, it is android without any overlay from different carriers. It is just bone stock android.
Android Open Source Project.
Edited because I fail!
Disclaimer: I'm not taking anything away from any of the Devs here. I can't do any of the stuff they do with any of the ROMs, so please, don't take the following as such.
Most of the non AOSP roms here are themed versions of the stock rom with performance increasing tweaks and what not. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, but it is what it is.
AOSP roms like Cyanogenmod are built from the source code. They are usually more bleeding edge because when the source is released from Google, they get to working on the update. Cyanogenmod 7 is already on 2.3.3, whereas most sense roms are still on 2.2.1
AOSP is short for Android Open Source Project. It's the source code for Android.
HTC takes the AOSP code and then adds Sense and their other tweaks to it. Basically all ROMs whether they are from HTC, Samsung, or who ever, is based on AOSP. The thing is that some of the OEMs modify the code so much that things start to become incompatible. Plus if you go straight to AOSP right now, the source code is up to Android 2.3.3, no OEM released ROM is up to that version. So that creates even more incompatibilities.
Some custom ROMs use AOSP and implement the code to devices from the ground up. That's what Cyanogen Mod does. MIUI also does this (and adds some heavy modifications to the code as well) but that ROM isn't specifically built for the EVO but is instead ported from the Nexus One ROM.
To keep it simple:
- AOSP is Android at it's most basic form, it's straight from Google and is pretty much what the Nexus devices use as final builds.
- OEM ROMs are based on AOSP but are usually outdated and heavily modified.
- You can go back and forth if you want, but if you do, you should wipe your cache as their are incompatibilities.
Wow, that's great everyone! I completely understand now. I really appreciate all the help and replies!
Could I ask what everyone's favorite AOSP & non-AOSP ROM is? I know this has been asked before, but I'd like the opinions of those that replied to this post, if they don't mind.
I'm looking for "bleeding-edge" technology, wireless tethering, hulu, etc. all the bells and whistles essentially. I don't care so much about how "pretty" it looks, just functionality and cool-gadgety-stuff. Thanks again!!!
ShadowCyborg said:
Wow, that's great everyone! I completely understand now. I really appreciate all the help and replies!
Could I ask what everyone's favorite AOSP & non-AOSP ROM is? I know this has been asked before, but I'd like the opinions of those that replied to this post, if they don't mind.
I'm looking for "bleeding-edge" technology, wireless tethering, hulu, etc. all the bells and whistles essentially. I don't care so much about how "pretty" it looks, just functionality and cool-gadgety-stuff. Thanks again!!!
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i would definitely suggest you look at cyanogenmod. it is built straight from source but improved apon in many ways. you can think of cyanogenmod as a crowd sourced rom. meaning anyone can contribute and submit changes to it. it is governed and controlled by the core members of the cyanogenmod team (team douche) but open for anyone to modify. what this gets you is a rom as close to aosp but made better. things like the power bar widget in the notification menu, music controls on the lock screen, quiet hours (notifications are turned down or off as well as dimming leds during set hours so they do not wake if if you say get an email at 5am), etc etc. members of teamwin recently built 4g support from the ground up be themselves and it is now a part of cyanogenmod. besides adding in features they also do a great deal of optimizing creating one of the most streamlined, user friendly fastest roms available.
oh and one part of your question seems unanswered - the 3.70.x.x.x of sense based roms is just the numbering of the rom build from htc for sprint but will always be built off of an older version of android due to the amount of customization done to it.
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As far as AOSP go I like Cyanogen CM7 or MIUI but if I want a sense type rom I typically run Mikfroyo or Fresh.
Thank you all very much, once again! I have so far tried the following ROMs.
- King's Ultra Unleashed R2
- Cyanogen Mod 6.1.2
I'm running Cyanogen Mod right now and it's pretty cool, but the problem is I really like different features of each. I do like how many features are built into the Cyanogen Mod ROM though. I have to say, I LOVE the quiet time feature a LOT! I've wished Android had that for a while now. Oh, and the increased battery life and decreased charge time of both is AWESOME!!! My phone had gotten to the point where it wouldn't even charge in the car. It just kept the battery at the level it was at. Now it will only drop 7% battery over the entire night, unplugged!
I'm contemplating trying the EVO Non-Sense right now. I am just trying many of them to see which I like the best. Thanks for all the advise everyone!
Koni Elite II has some really cool features in it. try them all, it's a lot of fun
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i thought it was the name of an ancient greek writer?
ShadowCyborg said:
Thank you all very much, once again! I have so far tried the following ROMs.
- King's Ultra Unleashed R2
- Cyanogen Mod 6.1.2
I'm running Cyanogen Mod right now and it's pretty cool, but the problem is I really like different features of each. I do like how many features are built into the Cyanogen Mod ROM though. I have to say, I LOVE the quiet time feature a LOT! I've wished Android had that for a while now. Oh, and the increased battery life and decreased charge time of both is AWESOME!!! My phone had gotten to the point where it wouldn't even charge in the car. It just kept the battery at the level it was at. Now it will only drop 7% battery over the entire night, unplugged!
I'm contemplating trying the EVO Non-Sense right now. I am just trying many of them to see which I like the best. Thanks for all the advise everyone!
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you can also try cm7, which is gingerbread based. cm6.x.x is froyo based. its in the rc1 stage meaning it is almost finalized. the rc1 does not have 4g but the nightlies do.
rc1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956187
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729802
the nightlies are also 2.3.3 which is the newest build. nightlies=bleeding edge. they, as the name implies, as released nightly and contain all the code submitted from that day. sometimes they are broken or even fail to build but such is the life of living on the edge!
Alanman, thanks! I was thinking about trying that one too and... I agree that this is a BLAST! I'm absolutely loving the custom features, software and abilities.
Digged up an old thread through search
I was wondering what AOSP meant as well, but thanks I now know and might try some of the suggested ROMs in here So far I had only tried a King ROM (Shooter) with Sense 3.0. I don't mind it, but currently I can't get Swype to behave for me so I was thinking about dropping it and moving onto another.
Hello.
I need advice/suggestions on choosing a Rom for my Samsung Galaxy S 4 (I9505/jfltexx). What I am looking for is a ROM that is stable and actively maintained with regards to bug and security fixes, preferably AOSP based. I have no need for neither all sorts of bells and whistles, fancy eye candy nor bleeding edge features. Rushing to the latest major android version is not a priority, having my phone fully working is, though.
Here is some "background data" om me in the hope of providing a more complete picture of what I am looking for based on my previous use/experience.
I have owned 3 android capable devices. HTC Legend, Samsung Galaxy SII and Samsung Galaxy S 4. One can argue these have been poor choice of devices but it is what it is. I have been running mainly Cyanogenmod since 6.1 I believe on all devices. Fact is, flashing CM has been one of the first thing I have done after buying a new device as I tend to "gag" on HTCs and Samsungs firmware. The first few years I used to tinker about with the devices a lot, flashing stable, RC, milestone and nightlies, different ROMs/kernels frequently but always found my way back to fairly default CM. It has been a bumpy ride on CM (yes, I realize this is in part due to my choise of devices) and while I am not here to lash out at CM in general, recent choices from the CM team and increasingly inconsistent support for my current device leads me to looking for alternatives while really appreciating the sheer amount of great work the CM team have done over the years.
So, what drew me towards CM in the first place? Well, mostly the flexibility/customizability of the ROM and the power/control I felt I had of it, the openness of it and what once was an active, positive community around it. Admittedly, SenseUI and TouchWiz probably pushed me towards it as well. The most recent year or two I have moved a bit away from tinkering and have had a higher need for a stable and maintained ROM that "just works".
I had decided to go for OmniROM, it seemed to be a decent alternative but I am under the impression that my device is no longer supported. Have been considering CopperheadOS as well.
Anyway, I am open to suggentions.
Cheers.
Slimsaber and Slim roms are constantly updated. They are also mantained by the same developer.
Resurrection Remix. I use this rom for some time and I have no issues. But this depends from phone to phone.
It is pretty feature rich.
The GPE rom is also a good choice. But GPE 5.1 is still pretty new and may not offer a stable and bugfree experience. You might want to try GPE 5.0, but it is not mantained anymore, since the move to 5.1.
There is a pure AOSP rom. It's basically the same thing you find on a nexus device.
Hello XDA'ers.
First let me say that this will be somewhat a post about frustration with Android devices, but it's not meant to be misconstrued as disrespect to those who contribute to the development community. I know you guys work hard at this and I do appreciate your efforts. Your ROMs have been lightyears ahead of what Samsung stock offers.
But with that said, here's my question: is there a single rom that will work properly, is stable, wont crash, etc? I have been through over a dozen different ROMs across two devices, and there's always been something small or large wrong with them. The one I'm using on my i9505 right now is by Antares One and yesterday it decided to show me three or four notifications that "Google Play Services has stopped working" per minute and today none of my SMS messages are being sent.
But it's not limited that, rather, there's always been something or other that the Android ROM didn't like, or I had to find a workaround, or had to completely reflash with something else.
Has anyone experienced this? Why can't Android just be a stable OS? I'm really thinking about switching to a Microsoft phone for my next upgrade.
DJ
Even stock roms have their problems and stability issues. If you look through the Q&A section you'll find several threads about stock rom issues.
It's not Android's fault entirely. It has to do with the phone too. Roms on my device are always stable. Yet another user running the same rom on the same device has various problems.
I am currently running AOSP Marshmallow by the JDCTeam, no problems. Bluetooth works, wifi works, mobile data works, battery is fine (I went to sleep with 70% left and when I woke up 8 hours later it still was at 70%).
the problem here is the impossible fix of many problems by developers..why? many developers are not soft engineer and maybe they dont even know how to program just know how to port and replace files and thats all..a big team for every single phone are just impossible..
so a stable rom will never come..just find the one "flawless" and keep it..
for me the stable roms are not cm..or aosp..stock rom debloated are very stable..like s6 port to s4 and debloated..is a good one
Use stock ROM for stability. Although they are not fast as AOSP but they dont exhibit strange behaviors.
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Hello XDA'ers.
First let me say that this will be somewhat a post about frustration with Android devices, but it's not meant to be misconstrued as disrespect to those who contribute to the development community. I know you guys work hard at this and I do appreciate your efforts. Your ROMs have been lightyears ahead of what Samsung stock offers.
But with that said, here's my question: is there a single rom that will work properly, is stable, wont crash, etc? I have been through over a dozen different ROMs across two devices, and there's always been something small or large wrong with them. The one I'm using on my i9505 right now is by Antares One and yesterday it decided to show me three or four notifications that "Google Play Services has stopped working" per minute and today none of my SMS messages are being sent.
But it's not limited that, rather, there's always been something or other that the Android ROM didn't like, or I had to find a workaround, or had to completely reflash with something else.
Has anyone experienced this? Why can't Android just be a stable OS? I'm really thinking about switching to a Microsoft phone for my next upgrade.
DJ
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Like GDReaper said in his post. For us those roms run perfectly fine. Sure there are bugs, but most issues are known before you decide to flash the rom. Besides the obvious bugs that are present there is also the user. A lot of problems are caused by inexperienced users. They don't know how to set up their phone, they flash shady apps, or use modifycations of their own (Xposed for example).
Then they come to XDA and provide no usefull information at all. For example:
"The one I'm using on my i9505 right now is by Antares One and yesterday it decided to show me three or four notifications that "Google Play Services has stopped working" per minute and today none of my SMS messages are being sent."
- For example you say you use a rom by Antares One. This gives us no information at all. He has made like 4 roms for the I9505. What build? What android version?
- Google Play Services has stopped working. What gapps package did you use?
- Have you made modifications of your own?
- Are you running an up to date modem and bootloader?
Also keep in mind that if you use for example a MM build that it's a work in progress. It has to be coded from scratch. So surely there will be some bugs, but you will get the latest Android version in return with all the latest security patches.
This post is not intended to flame you in any way. I think most of your frustration comes from the expectations that you have. You cannot expect that a CM based rom will work flawlessly out of the box. It's a work in progress.
This is a very good observation. I was thinking to write this kind of post in december.
A lot of Roms are abandoned or never pass nightly and you have to flash and flash again. Then suddenly all people jump to MM as if the world is ending tomorow. It is hard to find a good rom starting with Lollipop. I see a lot of people crying after KK stability and downgrading.
People are in a hurry, devs too, to flash the newest rom.
I prefer stability. A phone is not a camera, nor a battle field for flashing.. My 2C opinion.
I like custom roms, but sadly i need stability before customisation or performance. The only rom that delivers in this is Stock TW 4.4.2. If you want to go back to Kitkat use the latest firmware for your region.
It's very hard to deliver stability with a custom rom as stability is achieved through manpower, time and resources, which can't be provided through just donations.
Roms are abandoned because people move to other devices at some point.
And you can't stay on the same android version. Most of the roms are built from other sources. Like Resurrection Remix. The developer is wescrip, and he owns an LG device. The version for our S4 is built from his sources by TJSteveMX. If wescrip switched to Marshmallow it's pretty much impossible to for TJ to keep it Lollipop.
DJRepresent said:
(...)Why can't Android just be a stable OS? I'm really thinking about switching to a Microsoft phone for my next upgrade.DJ
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This is a more general answer:
In the Android world there is a huge diversity of devices (--> hardware) and Android versions. The next thing, you have to keep in mind: A lot of vendors and telecommunications companies include their modifications into the ROMs.
I think that due to the availability of new devices each year and all these modifications, which also include the full stop in official updates after 6 months after the release of the device, will lead to unstable (official) ROMs.
The community then tries to update the devices in their spare time to the newest versions. But they have to figure out some special settings and modifications per device. And this is a long way as it seems.
In my opinion, you should not blame the community and the developers. I think, it is more Google or the vendors that can´t agree on a good way to distribute newer Android versions (e.g. a new API layer between OS and Hardware).
Ok so cyanogenmod.org got all moto devices listed and they said moto g series getting cyanogen 14.1 but moto g4 plus not anywhere in cyanogenmod.org list:crying:
I hate unofficial buggy ROMs
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Ok so cyanogenmod.org got all moto devices listed and they said moto g series getting cyanogen 14.1 but moto g4 plus not anywhere in cyanogenmod.org list:crying:
I hate unofficial buggy ROMs
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Official roms are buggy too if you ever tried nightlies or snapshots. And we will see, maybe official will come until cm statet it comes not
They didn't say all G family, they post this list:
falcon, peregrine, titan, thea, osprey
They are 1st 2nd and 3rd Gen.
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They didn't say all G family, they post this list:
falcon, peregrine, titan, thea, osprey
They are 1st 2nd and 3rd Gen.
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If it's not in the list, it will be added, thats possible.
@mayank.bhola1:
No need to scared and say it will never come. If you didn't have a proof, don't open such scaring threads "no official cyanogen 14.1" that's really annoying to others, because some people trust it and won't buy the device maybe(just an opinion)
I avoid anything cm based. Always worse on battery life.
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I avoid anything cm based. Always worse on battery life.
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That's not true that all cm based has "always" worse battery life. On my galaxy's I got more battery compared to Samsung roms(official or mod) and also on my other devices cm gives me more battery life then stock, even to aosp! Maybe you encountered bad experiences, but it totally depends on the device tree, drivers, modem, source, etc etc... And the knowledge of the dev :angel:
My experience with CM was that a lot of the features added where useless to me and they just added battery drain and new bugs. And when a bug was fixed in a nightly, there was a good chance that another two bugs would pop up.
Not cool if you really need to use your phone as a phone. Maybe OK if you don't have a job or you stay at home all the time.
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My experience with CM was that a lot of the features added where useless to me and they just added battery drain and new bugs. And when a bug was fixed in a nightly, there was a good chance that another two bugs would pop up.
Not cool if you really need to use your phone as a phone. Maybe OK if you don't have a job or you stay at home all the time.
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So you concluding that we must stick to stock ROMs ??
Depends of what you do for living... and if need a reliable phone line for that.
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Depends of what you do for living... and if need a reliable phone line for that.
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I knew a device which stock cos rom is the hell on earth(random reboots, bugs, freezes) compared to cm and nearly all people saying wow after flashing cm instead of staying on stock. CM is widely available for devices and always a chance to get more out of your device when the manufacturer gives up the development after launching the device or won't fix bugs in acceptable time.
Not the case here. Moto firmware is stable and not bloated.
CM is best after OEM leaves device support. I had Asus Zenfone 5 earlier but no official CM so developers made unofficial one but Asus had serious issues with bootloader unlock as no developer was able to resolve screen freeze issues. So running custom ROMs on that device was hell bad.
If you think making cm and make it official is easy then do it urself, we really want to see. Things are not same as 1st,2nd &3rd. The chipset are way different than the previous gen. So stop posting useless things. Dont open thread for you own satisfaction.
Just my $0.02 : The premise behind getting a custom ROM is that it's for those who have an above average idea about OS, customizations, working on a system level and such.
The whole argument about stability, and what one does for their living is a bit too far fetched in context of using a device that is dependable. Stock ROMs are made by OEMs keeping a novice end-user in view, who may or may not have sufficient time, knowledge or inclination of going beyond what the device came shipped with.
Custom ROMs and development is undertaken almost completely as a voluntary exercise by the devs, mostly on cost of their own resources and go far as to offer their work off forum threads which they'd personally support. Those flashing and modding devices are ones testing the work undertaken by devs, and even after a ROM gets official status, work on development continues with feedback from users and updating security, porting features from other devices, expanding customization et al.
Battery use, smoothness of UI, connectivity, stability, obviously are essential to one's experience of using their phone, but are highly dependent on how well one's put to use the abilities of their custom ROM, apart from what applications or settings one's gotten on, and that would come about only with experimenting, learning and keeping oneself updated with their device's software.
Stock ROMs, barring the few odd ones which run stock Android are almost always crammed with bloatware, uncustomizable UI/features and locked in to a mesh of regulatory compliances, OEM/vendor/third party interests and above all marketing the device as a product - which means you're good to go for just about as long as the OEM cares, and that isn't usually long enough given they'd obviously be focused on selling newer products.
So, it's just that mileage may vary but if you're willing to stick around to learn and experiment, customizing is the only way to truly own your phone.
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Stock ROMs, barring the few odd ones which run stock Android are almost always crammed with bloatware, uncustomizable UI/features and locked in to a mesh of regulatory compliances, OEM/vendor/third party interests and above all marketing the device as a product - which means you're good to go for just about as long as the OEM cares, and that isn't usually long enough given they'd obviously be focused on selling newer products.
So, it's just that mileage may vary but if you're willing to stick around to learn and experiment, customizing is the only way to truly own your phone.
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I think the G4 is close to AOSP. Using Xposed you can get many fancy features found in custom roms. GravityBox gives you much of what CM offers.
Security features make it much more difficult to customize a phone. Pay by phone, i.e. "Wallet" will become important.
Custom roms are used more now for keeping old phones current. Not that much happening with new phones. Look at CyanogenMod https://download.cyanogenmod.org/ to view this.
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I think the G4 is close to AOSP. Using Xposed you can get many fancy features found in custom roms. GravityBox gives you much of what CM offers.
Security features make it much more difficult to customize a phone. Pay by phone, i.e. "Wallet" will become important.
Custom roms are used more now for keeping old phones current. Not that much happening with new phones. Look at CyanogenMod https://download.cyanogenmod.org/ to view this.
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If you're considering using Xposed for the 'fancy features' and use wallet, and yet vouch for stock Roms I'm not sure what you're on to. You'd need for more mods running on a stock ROM which would anyways take months or even years to get updated to run latest Android versions. Some times you'd just stick around with frequent updates which are still two SDK versions behind the current official release, basically cycling through bloat, partner apps and constant rooting, modding to just keep your phone worth it's use.
As for new phones, it takes a fair amount of time, effort and understanding to access available sources and build a device tree from which custom ROMs are built.
Besides, not many users, unless they've specifically bought the new device to work on development, adopt customization till about several months after their purchase. As for CyanogenMod site they list the official ROMs, which are painstakingly built after months of testing. What you see on there are mostly devices which are either usually a year old or are stock Android - both being fitting scenarios for system level modifications to drive both performance and customization. You'd be hard pressed to find Android OEMs updating devices or even offering security patches for long.
Also, do remember MIUI, Oxygen and several other OEM ROMs that run across some of the most successful phones evolved from the custom ROMs community development.
And yeah, there's the custom kernels as well which almost always need a custom ROM.
Unless you've hit upon a groundbreaking counter claim to all the benefit of custom ROMs you would be among a tiny minority of informed users who ascribe to that idea. I would really like to benefit from what you can share about it, I am sure I can hit up the devs in my subscribed threads and help them make better decision with their time and efforts.
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Dear Devs,
@TheDarkStrix @TheStrix @Umang96 @poad42 @thinhx2 @srisurya95 @Santhosh M @psndna88 @dadi11 @xyyx @abhishek987 @Sudeep Duhoon @warlord_rk @minz1 @Ashish0077 @Bitti09 @Vatsal @rocknegi @AmolAmrit @Shivam Kumar Jha
Tens of thousands of RN3 users owe a big thanks to you. You are the reason why many of us buy a new device and unlock it the very next day, root it and flash TWRP. You are the reason why we get the latest software. (Using assistant on RN3, nougat, DT2W, Quick Charge, CPU Governers etc).
I dont disrespect you. I cant cook ROMs, I cant force you to make anything for me.
I have owned 3-4 devices in last few years and have been a diehard fan of custom ROMs.
My observation is that in case of all the devices, its a common theme over XDA that each team is developing their own ROMs. But from a users point of view, it is a dilemma. . You choose one ROM and loose some features of another ROM.
In case of RN3, with Linage & AOSiP, Volte is working out of the Box.
RR is the best ROM in terms of customization, but its a nightmare to get VOLTE working on RR (Flash MIUI, get your phone wiped, wait for 30 minutes to boot it up, use some 26/11 build).
You pick up AOSP and you again miss out on customization.
RR is based on CM but still very different from Linage.
Linage is pretty much barebone.
The problem right now is Lack of XPOSED, with xposed, it was very easy to get the customizations. To name a few, network speed indicator xposed module, Download Progress Bar, Block Google Ads etc.
So without XPOSED, we depend on you for the customizations.
Someone has VULKON, Someone has OMS, for some camera works better.
AOSiP gives the best LTE signal strength,
with linage, you cant turn off fingerprint sensor vibration (I use VibraFix app from play store to disable fingerprint vibration and make it snappy).
So its a thought, from an end user. (Always people start making negative comments and ask moderator to take the thread down, dont do that, positive feedbacks help sometime).
My request is, why dont you guys collaborate in a better manner on a common GIT. You can build your own ROMs, and yes you use each other's fix, and yes you compete with each other at one level, that see, my ROM is best.
I see comments like, camera is buggy, use Google Camera, so why not include Google Camera in the original build along with Snap Camera).
We can get a very good ROM if you guys work together. Why cant we have this forum to share your views, roadmap, issues summary here along with on GITs & REPOs as normal user never goes there.
Some people say they need source code from xiomi, but with same resources available to everyone, why the outcome is different.?
For example, if vulkan is better then why cant every rom can have it.. why not everyone can have OMS. If one DEV can get it working with same available resources then why cant the other one..
What is the fun in making a new custom rom where the only difference is a few names in build.prop and a different boot animation.
Xiomi is using multiple camera and fingerprint sensor, but there must be some way to figure out sensor names.. eg for fingerprint one can check if its goodix or FPC.
So dear devs.. you are superman and batman in individual capacity.. but come together to form the justice league.
Please build a larger team, work together to include all possible features in a single package.
Regards.
-A fan of XDA ecosystem and a user for whom you work so hard.
hi, i using kenzo with goodix fp, only have 4,5 custom rom, i want make rom for it but my server i bad, it make rom about 7 hour for 64 bit devices, 32 bit is normal, i no have time to make some rom for it
1, rr,aosip,... i dont care features of it, simply i love sony ui- xosp i make it for kenzo
2, i dont know c,java,android launguage, i dont make apk, i no use mod
3, i hate redmi devices many camera company, fp company this is reason why camera f.c, only camera font work, dont connect to camera,...
4, i like vibrant when i touch to fp
5, if we are make i github with all repo, i will like trash, really
6, now,i want comeback miui to take picture with my girl friend but setting f.c because dont find device(few mounth ago, i enable find device)
7 i dont care camera, i just use kenzo for play game
sorry, my english very bad
Nice effort.
Read the complete post, NIcely written. I agree with what you've written. Let's see what happens. I would be really happy to see a ROM that has the best of all roms combined.
I would also appreciate if somehow someone can bring MIUI Apps to our custom roms as some of the apps like CALC, MiRemote and all are really good. Especially the default MI file explorer which has hidden folder. I know CM Explorer also has a secure storage but I feel that MI's explorer is better. :Excited:
All roms and kernels here have open sources and all devs try to make Kenzo better all the days, in relation at the possibility of each, try to ask the at xiaomi to open open their sources the reverse engineering is not simply to do...After you can build your rom with all features that you want
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A good move!
gynsharma said:
Dear Moderator, I understand that it is in a wrong section, but this is the only section which has the visibility, I hope it stays, its high time when we stop removing positive requests from XDA.
Dear Devs,
@TheDarkStrix @TheStrix @Umang96 @poad42 @thinhx2 @srisurya95 @Santhosh M @psndna88 @dadi11 @xyyx @abhishek987 @Sudeep Duhoon @warlord_rk @minz1 @Ashish0077 @Bitti09 @Vatsal @rocknegi @AmolAmrit @Shivam Kumar Jha
Tens of thousands of RN3 users owe a big thanks to you. You are the reason why many of us buy a new device and unlock it the very next day, root it and flash TWRP. You are the reason why we get the latest software. (Using assistant on RN3, nougat, DT2W, Quick Charge, CPU Governers etc).
I dont disrespect you. I cant cook ROMs, I cant force you to make anything for me.
I have owned 3-4 devices in last few years and have been a diehard fan of custom ROMs.
My observation is that in case of all the devices, its a common theme over XDA that each team is developing their own ROMs. But from a users point of view, it is a dilemma. . You choose one ROM and loose some features of another ROM.
In case of RN3, with Linage & AOSiP, Volte is working out of the Box.
RR is the best ROM in terms of customization, but its a nightmare to get VOLTE working on RR (Flash MIUI, get your phone wiped, wait for 30 minutes to boot it up, use some 26/11 build).
You pick up AOSP and you again miss out on customization.
RR is based on CM but still very different from Linage.
Linage is pretty much barebone.
The problem right now is Lack of XPOSED, with xposed, it was very easy to get the customizations. To name a few, network speed indicator xposed module, Download Progress Bar, Block Google Ads etc.
So without XPOSED, we depend on you for the customizations.
Someone has VULKON, Someone has OMS, for some camera works better.
AOSiP gives the best LTE signal strength,
with linage, you cant turn off fingerprint sensor vibration (I use VibraFix app from play store to disable fingerprint vibration and make it snappy).
So its a thought, from an end user. (Always people start making negative comments and ask moderator to take the thread down, dont do that, positive feedbacks help sometime).
My request is, why dont you guys collaborate in a better manner on a common GIT. You can build your own ROMs, and yes you use each other's fix, and yes you compete with each other at one level, that see, my ROM is best.
I see comments like, camera is buggy, use Google Camera, so why not include Google Camera in the original build along with Snap Camera).
We can get a very good ROM if you guys work together. Why cant we have this forum to share your views, roadmap, issues summary here along with on GITs & REPOs as normal user never goes there.
Some people say they need source code from xiomi, but with same resources available to everyone, why the outcome is different.? For example, if vulkan is better then why cant every rom can have it.. why not everyone can have OMS. If one DEV can get it working with same available resources then why cant the other one..
What is the fun in making a new custom rom where the only difference is a few names in build.prop and a different boot animation.
Xiomi is using multiple camera and fingerprint sensor, but there must be some way to figure out sensor names.. eg for fingerprint one can check if its goodix or FPC.
So dear devs.. you are superman and batman in individual capacity.. but come together to form the justice league.
Please build a larger team, work together to include all possible features in a single package.
Regards.
-A fan of XDA ecosystem and a user for whom you work so hard.
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U have made a really good move by posting this! Everything u have written is really appreciable! I'm waiting for response of developers on this!
Good message. I really wish for a world like this. However, I do know a tiny bit more than you although I cannot code or build ROMs. Correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK, The "Official builds" have to be official and so must come from the lineage team or from the slim team etc. You take the code base, put on your blobs and other stuff and compile it. So, there are going to be differences in the code base and so the build varies from ROM to ROM. Lineage is built on CM which had a policy that build them the minimal independent self-sufficient system that works. So, you get CM apps and thats it. Slim says give them a bootable system. They leave it to the users to add the apps they like. Resurrection Remix says that you want features, I have dumped them all here. So, you can't ask them to have a uniform codebase.
On the other side, there are the blobs which they source from different places and so once a dev tests one blob and finds it amazing, he can share it with all the others and things will be awesome. But that is where the good news ends. Once the dev uses a blob and it has some conflicting code with some package, he makes modifications and the chain of things he did is hard to keep a track of. The other dev was approaching a different way and so he will not agree to all the chain of modifications as it breaks things for him.
Bottom line:- It is a messy world out there. But the idea is still plausible to a great extent. My two cents of advice is that, one dev please volunteer and make a fully featured ROM with features and reviews cherry picked and stuffed. And while you are at it, please include AROMA installer so that people who like substratum or Vulkan or other things may choose it and the others leave it.
@aveemashfaq
i have too thought one month ago about aroma customized post installation toolkit .i made it for my personal use as it has included all vulkan,volte,hd icon diseabler(thanks to sudeep duhoon),custom popular kernels ,osmosis scripts (wonderful person)selected gapps ,user apps ,agni toolbox stuffs and many more like a cherry picked boot animations,ringtones ,fonts etc but i cant post it publically with some reason .