Sorry for the noob questions. I just don't want to mess it up.
I plan to root shortly. I've watched a few YT vids, so I'm confident about doing that.
I'd like to about the order of doing things, if that makes sense.
At the moment, I've not downloaded the OTA firmware updates, so it's basic KK 4.4.4. But, I downloaded via SamMobile, the latest KK ROM (N910FXXU1ANK4_N910FBTU1ANK2_BTU)
Am I correct in thinking, I should reformat the phone (I've got nothing on the phone I want to keep), install the ROM from SamMobile via Odin (to be fully up to date with KK), then root and install TWRP, create a backup.
Then I'm free to install any custom ROMs, update to Lp?
Speaking of custom ROMs, at the moment I'd prefer to stick with KK, until Xposed is sorted and is easy to install when using Lp.
Without trying all the custom ROMs out there, do any support the fingerprint scanner, S Pen, Multi Window, S Health and the HRM or would I loose some/all of those features?
If in the future I upgrade to Lp, is it necessary to download/flash the latest stock ROM (to get the latest FW updates/fixes/security patches etc), before I installed a custom Lp ROM?
Thank you for any help and advice
Does anyone have any answers, before I try it and blow up my phone in a massive fireball?
You're pretty much such right on the above steps. Some (me included) prefer Phils CWR rather than TWRP as a custom recovery. Fair enough to stick with KK, but LP working ok with Xposed now, assuming you're using a custom rom. There are two distinct types of custom ROMs. Those based on touchwiz and those that aren't. The ones based on TW will be called things like BOD2 or BOE2 for LP or ANK2 for KK (like the one you pasted above). Other ROMs will be based on AOSP. The TW ones will work with the s-pen, fingerprint etc. The AOSP ones won't. You can go straight to LP custom from KK, you don't need to flash via a stock LP ROM but it doesn't harm to do so. The custom ROM installation instruction will often provide you with an extra bootloader/modem file to flash if you are coming from KK or a different version of LP. Stock ROMS do include bootloader and modem, custom ROMs generally don't.
Good luck
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You're pretty much such right on the above steps. Some (me included) prefer Phils CWR rather than TWRP as a custom recovery. Fair enough to stick with KK, but LP working ok with Xposed now, assuming you're using a custom rom. There are two distinct types of custom ROMs. Those based on touchwiz and those that aren't. The ones based on TW will be called things like BOD2 or BOE2 for LP or ANK2 for KK (like the one you pasted above). Other ROMs will be based on AOSP. The TW ones will work with the s-pen, fingerprint etc. The AOSP ones won't. You can go straight to LP custom from KK, you don't need to flash via a stock LP ROM but it doesn't harm to do so. The custom ROM installation instruction will often provide you with an extra bootloader/modem file to flash if you are coming from KK or a different version of LP. Stock ROMS do include bootloader and modem, custom ROMs generally don't.
Good luck
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Thank you very much, that's been a great help Respect to the People's Republik of Mancunian :good:
A TW ROM sounds the best option for me at this time.
A few more Q's if you don't mind (or anyone else).
1. Is it worth installing a pre rooted stock ROM (for the 910F), so I can get any possible OTA updates (KK or Lp) or is it nothing to worry about?
I'm not sure if any exist at the moment for the 910F?
2. Is it best to just install 910F based ROMs? (I'm thinking about the telephone side of things, connecting to UK carriers)?
Thank you.
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Thank you very much, that's been a great help Respect to the People's Republik of Mancunian :good:
A TW ROM sounds the best option for me at this time.
A few more Q's if you don't mind (or anyone else).
1. Is it worth installing a pre rooted stock ROM (for the 910F), so I can get any possible OTA updates (KK or Lp) or is it nothing to worry about?
I'm not sure if any exist at the moment for the 910F?
2. Is it best to just install 910F based ROMs? (I'm thinking about the telephone side of things, connecting to UK carriers)?
Thank you.
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No prob. Yeah. I agree - go for a TW ROM. As for your questions:
1. No. OTA updates just take you from one stock ROM to next version of the stock ROM. OTA updates don't work well, usually failing, once you have rooted and maybe installed custom recovery. You can easily stay up to date without OTAs by just re-flashing with a new custom or stock ROM release. For me, the only reason to use a custom rom at present is to use Xposed (mostly to change DPI for different apps and also to add the symbols on the stock keyboard, oh and also to run a non-ads environment). If I was staying on KK I would have stayed on stock, rooted and then installed a custom recovery and Xposed. Currently Xposed is only compatible on the Note 4 with Lollipop if you are using a deodexed (custom) rom. All stock ROMs are ODEXED, and hence not compatible with Xposed (for now).
2. Yes. Stay away from ROMs for other variants (like the 910G). They're not compatible.
When you pick a ROM, ask questions in the ROM thread. It will be more read than these Q&A areas.
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No prob. Yeah. I agree - go for a TW ROM. As for your questions:
1. No. OTA updates just take you from one stock ROM to next version of the stock ROM. OTA updates don't work well, usually failing, once you have rooted and maybe installed custom recovery. You can easily stay up to date without OTAs by just re-flashing with a new custom or stock ROM release. For me, the only reason to use a custom rom at present is to use Xposed (mostly to change DPI for different apps and also to add the symbols on the stock keyboard, oh and also to run a non-ads environment). If I was staying on KK I would have stayed on stock, rooted and then installed a custom recovery and Xposed. Currently Xposed is only compatible on the Note 4 with Lollipop if you are using a deodexed (custom) rom. All stock ROMs are ODEXED, and hence not compatible with Xposed (for now).
2. Yes. Stay away from ROMs for other variants (like the 910G). They're not compatible.
When you pick a ROM, ask questions in the ROM thread. It will be more read than these Q&A areas.
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Thank you again, I appreciate the help
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Hi, maybe I have too simplistic an understanding of these things but I'm struggling to understand what seems to be a clamour to return to stock/unroot to allow the OTA to 4.4.2. I rooted and installed a custom KitKat ROM to remove the bloatware and to have a similar UI as my Nexus 7.
What would be the advantages of having of having stock 4.4.2 bloatware included ? My thoughts were to hang off until a custom stock KitKat ROM is developed and released, and flash that (if at all, DroidKangv1 is working very well for me on my D802)
Or am I way off the mark here and missing something obvious ?
Cheers,
np
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Hi, maybe I have too simplistic an understanding of these things but I'm struggling to understand what seems to be a clamour to return to stock/unroot to allow the OTA to 4.4.2. I rooted and installed a custom KitKat ROM to remove the bloatware and to have a similar UI as my Nexus 7.
What would be the advantages of having of having stock 4.4.2 bloatware included ? My thoughts were to hang off until a custom stock KitKat ROM is developed and released, and flash that (if at all, DroidKangv1 is working very well for me on my D802)
Or am I way off the mark here and missing something obvious ?
Cheers,
np
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The clamour is that its new. Its the latest and greatest with new things to discover. And new things are awesome. Ive gone back to stock and Im loving it so far, there's a lot of cool features that you miss out on by using aosp roms. There currently is a 4.4 stock rom in the developement section if your keen just be aware that there is no root for it yet.
I actually went back to stock 4.2.2 after experiencing issues using the camera and GPS at the same time on the custom ROM I was using.
If I wanted to flash a stock 4.4 kdz I presume it is the same procedure I used to return to stock but obviously with the correct 4.4 kdz file ?
Cheers.
Yeah correct its the same and its this rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665985
Theres plenty of info in that thread.
I thought about doing it but the mixed results people got sort of turned me off. And the fact that recovery doesn't work on it.
Should be interesting though.
Hello.
It's the fist time I'm gonna flash a modded Rom cause after a year the phone its staring to do weird things. I'm still at 4.3 Jellybean.
My phone is rooted with stock TouchWiz.
The less wissles and options the better. I don't use the S-pen and would like to have a simple and battery friendly Rom with a good camera app.
Also I'm worry for the sdcard problems i read everywhere and stability.
I guess a Rom with 4.4.4 is better than 4.4.2 but in this so not sure.
What Rom do you recommend?
Thank you!
first you need to choice if you want TW or CM rom...
if TW you need to upgrade bootloader and flash stock KK rom and root and flash custom...
if CM11 no need to upgrade KK and you can flash what you want
for CM12 you need KK bootloader too
Thank you for quick answer.
I read that Cyanogenmod Roms are not optimized and made for Note 3.
Is there a Rom made specifically for N9005 with the features I posted?
1. Go to the Note 3 Android development subforum.
2. Read about the different ROMs.
3. Decide which one you want to try.
4. Flash it.
5. Repeat as necessary.
There are no short cuts. Do the research yourself, only you know if you'll be happy with your choice.
Ok thank you.
Will all the Kitkat based Roms have issues with the Sdcard I read I forums?
I recommend to you the rom which made by Alexander.. And omega rom as a second choice.. Good luck
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please, i have this rom
[ROM][N9005] Galaxy S5 Stock ROM - Final v40.0 - Clean, Fast and Stable - [OTA]
have i already in kk bootloader? or not sure? how can i check?
thanks
I'm trying to find Alexander Rom you suggested but i cant find it in the forum. (I'm new with all this about roms).
What is the name of Alexander's Rom?
Well you can use stock ROM, and uninstall all the nonsense apps with any root supported uninstall app, but you still will be forced to have those S related features, S-Scroll, S-Stay and all those nonsense features (which I never have used, ever). Now if you AOSP way then you won't have all those things and you will have a clean ROM but you will miss the lovely S-Pen integration of TouchWiz based ROMs.
So you have to decide according to your preference. I don't believe that AOSP/CM based ROMs are 100% bug free for Note 3, but please correct me if I am wrong. I am an AOSP lover too.
And I also don't believe 4.4.4 has much advantage over 4.4.2 other than some security patches.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2649176
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Hi,
I'm currently on stock 5.0 ROM (Simple ROM) but I prefer pure Android UI. I've got two questions:
Is there any fully-working and stable 5.0 ROM?
I'm on KK bootloader and TWRP 2.8.5.1 w/ Bump. Do I have to do anything if I want to flash non-LG 5.0 ROM?
No, you just have to find a Rom and install it through TWRP by factory reseting and installing zip + Gapps.
There are many different roms for the G2, if you like stock android UI with some little improvements, you have the well-known CM12.
If you prefer having a fast and smooth phone you might want to look forward on liquidsmooth.
If you're an addict of options and customization then the BlissPop rom is for you.
And if people likes the LG's stock interface they have simple rom (who can be coupled to GravityBox in order to be enhanced... ).
All those roms are still in devellopement, but honestly they have really good performance and the updates are now just some little things/bug fixes.
You first should look on Gravity Box + xposed who just realeased a LP version, might work on simple rom and add many things.
If you still don't like the improved stock experience you have all those other roms who have their specificies.
I'm currently running BlissPop and have to say that it's really well-made, but D802 has some problems with some builds causing bootloops, so not the perfect one indeed.
Just watch other threads and fine something that you'll like, feel free to ask questions...
So you say I don't have to flash JB bootloader, right? Just flash ROM using BUMPed TWRP and that's it?
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So you say I don't have to flash JB bootloader, right? Just flash ROM using BUMPed TWRP and that's it?
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No, no, NO! With some ROMs you NEED the JB bootloader, unless stated otherwise!
I made the same mistake and ended up with vertical black lines on the screen due to overheating upon hanging boot. So, even thought the ROM says it includes a bump-ed kernel, I would be really careful with KK bootloaders.
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No, no, NO! With some ROMs you NEED the JB bootloader, unless stated otherwise!
I made the same mistake and ended up with vertical black lines on the screen due to overheating upon hanging boot. So, even thought the ROM says it includes a bump-ed kernel, I would be really careful with KK bootloaders.
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Actually for this simple/Grola ROM you need to be on bumped recovery and KK boot loader BEFORE flashing the ROM. You can flash back and forth between cloudy 2.2 and simple ROM, but aosp Roms in general require jb bootloader
What is the best rom to go with that has the modem and gapps included? also one with good tethering/hotspot so I dont gotta be subject to carrier extortion and rape... LOL.
I want something easy to flash and stuff since I am not the best with this sorta thing and money is tight. So can't afford to buy a new phone.
Stock based ROM.
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Which stock based one?
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Which stock based one?
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So many. Just let your brain choose.
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I don't have a lot of time.. That's why I posted here.
Ordering phone on Monday and going on a trip wed.
Wanna have the ROM by then with the least amt. of issues with straight talk.
Stay with the stock rom then. Most custom roms don't have gapps included.
Also, most custom roms require you to have a custom recovery. This requires additional flashing and time.
well I know about that but just some roms don't have modems or other things and I don't wanna have to search manually for stuff that's why I asked here !!
They're recommending stock because of the amount of time you have available to you before your trip. If you seriously want to flash a custom ROM prior to your trip, then you want to flash a Cyanogenmod-based or AOSP ROM. The question is, which version of Android do you want?
If you want Android 5.11, install Optimized CM12.1 + GApps.
If you want Android 6.0, AOSP 6 + GApps. If you want the goodies normally found in a Cyanogenmod-based ROM, then you want Synergy or CrDroid + GApps.
All the ROMs recommended install quickly with TWRP as your recovery. Keep in mind however that every ROM, even stock ROMs, will have bugs. However the bugs in the aforementioned ROMs will not prevent you from using the device. The good news is that unless you use a CDMA device such as a Verizon or Sprint Galaxy S4, you should not have to worry about which modem you have. The same cannot always be said for the Touchwiz ROMs, but even then, unless you have a pre-Android 5 modem you should be OK.
For Touchwiz-based ROMs, look at the ones available from Albe95. Regardless of which one you install, keep in mind that the package is much larger than Cyanogenmod or AOSP, and thus will take longer to install. Albe95 generally recommends the latest modem for your device, so if that is a deal breaker, then go Cyanogenmod/AOSP.
I want 4.4.x or 5.o for some of the betas I'm testing.
Will the ones you recommended have the modem included. I'd hate to have to hunt n peck n trial n error with that.
Custom ROMs do not include modems, period. If a ROM recommends a modem, you'll have to get it from the appropriate thread. I can tell you that AOSP and Cyanogenmod do not require a specific modem. For example, I'm running AOSP 6 on Straight Talk as we speak. I never upgraded the modem from the Android 5.0.1 version I installed seven months prior.
so CM doesn't include it? that sucks. what one do you recommend? and how is that flashed?
As mentioned, no custom ROM includes the modem in its download, because unless the ROM specifies otherwise, you use the one already on the phone. So in the case of Cyanogenmod, there is nothing special to do. Simply install the recovery through Odin, boot into the recovery, and install the ROM.
Hey guys, hope you all are fine. I have recently rooted my f800l korean with dirty santa method. Now i want to try some custom rom on this, but no rom is booting up, even super rom is officialy listed on their website for f800 but does't boots up. alwasy stucks on lg logo. Some body tell me which step am i missing?
Sorry for my bad english.
as far as i know, theres no officially custom rom that espexially made fot F800L. but dont worry, you can flash 'SOME' VS955 rom in F800L
heres the lost that alreasybtesred by mw, and yes its working
1. VS955 extreme syndicate v1 <-- stock nougat based, no signal, wifi working
2. VS955 Lineage 15 <-- recomended by me, AOSP based
3. VS955 Weta rom <-- stock nougat based
and dont forget to flash custom kernel after flashing custom rom.
im using F800K M2000 (latest version)
AOSP based ROM works out of the box, stock-based doesn't because they're all using different device's stock ROM as a base. Stock-based custom ROM on this device for the most part is just stock + debloated + misc. mods and snakeoil. You can get most of them working by (re)flashing modem after you flashed the ROM, but ultimately its still the same thing. Its better just to root the latest Nougat/Oreo stock ROM for the device, install mk2000 kernel, then debloat it yourself. The korean text in dialer, as well as Korean ROM quirks (always roaming, missing menu options) can be dealt with using a build.prop edit.
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AOSP based ROM works out of the box, stock-based doesn't because they're all using different device's stock ROM as a base. Stock-based custom ROM on this device for the most part is just stock + debloated + misc. mods and snakeoil. You can get most of them working by (re)flashing modem after you flashed the ROM, but ultimately its still the same thing. Its better just to root the latest Nougat/Oreo stock ROM for the device, install mk2000 kernel, then debloat it yourself. The korean text in dialer, as well as Korean ROM quirks (always roaming, missing menu options) can be dealt with using a build.prop edit.
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Way to disparage the work done by the few devs left here who provide their time and effort for free.
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Way to disparage the work done by the few devs left here who provide their time and effort for free.
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There's a big difference between actual development (kernel work, device tree for AOSP porting) and chucking whatever popular snakeoil is out there and repackaging it. There's a reason why Original Android Development got split into a separate category back in the days, so repacks 2468295 can be kept in its own containment forum. XDA hasn't changed much since the Blue Angel/Himalaya days in that regard.
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AOSP based ROM works out of the box, stock-based doesn't because they're all using different device's stock ROM as a base. Stock-based custom ROM on this device for the most part is just stock + debloated + misc. mods and snakeoil. You can get most of them working by (re)flashing modem after you flashed the ROM, but ultimately its still the same thing. Its better just to root the latest Nougat/Oreo stock ROM for the device, install mk2000 kernel, then debloat it yourself. The korean text in dialer, as well as Korean ROM quirks (always roaming, missing menu options) can be dealt with using a build.prop edit.
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i agree with you. lets take an example lesson in my experience while im using lineage, yes the rom is much lighter and faster than stock, but the camera result is not as good as when im using stock rom. the result from camera is very crappy (compared with while im using stock rom). so once again, im very agree the best rom for any device is stock rom+ custom kernel of our choice and of course debloat as our choice as well. this is the reason why im choosing extreme syndicate v1 rom because it just lite as AOSP rom because its extremely debloated and my camera working perfectly, the the DAC work as well.
does lineage-15.1-20181214-X86CPU-vs995.zip work on F800L Bro ......im using lineage-14.1-20180214-UNOFFICIAL-vs995.zip now on F800L
Anybody try to install LOS 17.1 and have the camera works? The camera work fine when 15.1 LOS installed. But soon after I dirty install the 17.1 its stopped working.
I'm haven't install any gapps or any custom kernel. Or should I?