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Hey all
I just had a strange problem with my Vibrant. Perhaps someone can help.
I don't know if this is the correct forum to put this in... if not, apologies and feel free to move it.
For the record I am running Vibrant9 on the phone, and everything has been running beautifully for a few weeks.
This morning, in fact, everything was running just fine. Then, all of a sudden, my phone lost all connectivity, both mobile networks and 3G. I rebooted the device, and the mobile network and 3G seemed to come back, but now it will not connect to my google accounts. I get messages saying either the account has changed, or the password is wrong for both accounts.
Web seems to be working over 3G, and I can make calls, but I cannot look up e-mail, and I get notifications saying my google accounts are failing to connect.
I'm not sure how to move forward with this, and I've never seen anything like it. I can log into my google accounts on my PC just fine, so the accounts and the passwords are OK... seems to be the phone.
I will keep looking, but has anyone seen anything like this before ? Anyone have this happen in the last 10 minutes ??
Any help appreciated.
Well I'm facing the same issue. Can't sync my mail, no apps can be.downloaded from market...its a issue.from Google.side I guess.
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Until I can get 2.2 installed, I've given up on the existing gmail app that comes with 2.1. The gmail market app that is published recently is only 2.2 compatible. I've been using K9 for both gmail and my imap account and been far more pleased with it.
wahur1 said:
Well I'm facing the same issue. Can't sync my mail, no apps can be.downloaded from market...its a issue.from Google.side I guess.
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Really ? That's interesting. So google's mobile connections might be down ?
I can't find anything about that online... anyone else wanna weigh in ? Is this just a problem for every android handset ?
How frustrating.
Are you able to log into gmail on a computer? I had that same message the other day. Wasn't able to connect, my account had changed or password was wrong. Turned out, at 4 am there was spam sent from my gmail to 5 of my contacts. Gmail caught it and made me revise my password. After that, all is back to normal with market, gmail, etc...
Good thought, but I can actually log into gmail from my phones browser just fine with the same address and password.
Still have the same problem. Can log in to my mail using the other android email app. Just not the default app. Market broken, and anything needing that google account.
If others aren't having the problem, then it must be me, but I'm damned if I know what it is.
Might try restoring my nandroid backup.
Any other thoughts?
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Odd. That may be your best bet...
Hi I just started having the same problem as well. Computer based gmail is working fine, but I can't access my two accounts through the gmail appand my mobile network connection seems to be down.
Edit: mobile network is back, but my accounts still aren't connecting.
Ok I just resolved this problem. Guess how?
I restored the nandroid backup that I took yesterday. Working fine now.
And what has changed since I took this backup? Only that I installed the overclocking kernel released yesterday... Could it be that?
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Ok strange new symptom.
My nandroid backup doesn't replace the kernel, so I'm still overclocked and still running the new kernel.
However, since restoring now my google accounts seem to work (market ok, voice ok etc.), I can receive email, but not send it.
This is really troubling. Anyone have any similar problems, or ideas?
EDIT : The kernel I flashed yesterday is "[KERNEL] [2.6.29] [Flashable-.zip] [BFQ] [Oc] [Uv] #1 "Finally" '9.8 Linpack!'", which as far as I can tell is the only difference since this started happening.
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Well I'm still facing the same issue. Can't sync my mails, unable to download apps from market and no friendstream either. So whts wrong guys? How should I resolve this? i uninstalled the updates from gmail and somehow it started working for few hrs but now again its dead :/...
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Hi.
Bought my Samsung Vibrant a few days ago and I have not been able to log in to my google account. Due to this I have not been able to use any app or game...
Can someone please guide me on how to resolve this issue? I will be really greatful!
Thanks a lot!
Hi All,
This weekend I installed a couple of ROMs and played about with my phone quite a bit. I didn't install new apps, except for the ones I already had in previous ones.
Unfortunately this morning I have found that my google account has been hacked and some sod has been sending emails from my e-Mail address. Here are the details as provided by google:
Mobile India (125.19.103.21) 08:53 (2.5 hours ago)
I am not placing blame on anyone, or pointing fingers, but perhaps it can serve as an alert to the mostly honest XDA community.
you live in india?
astrodemoniac said:
Hi All,
This weekend I installed a couple of ROMs and played about with my phone quite a bit. I didn't install new apps, except for the ones I already had in previous ones.
Unfortunately this morning I have found that my google account has been hacked and some sod has been sending emails from my e-Mail address. Here are the details as provided by google:
Mobile India (125.19.103.21) 08:53 (2.5 hours ago)
I am not placing blame on anyone, or pointing fingers, but perhaps it can serve as an alert to the mostly honest XDA community.
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hmmm,, are you sure that this is related to changing Roms (winmor or android)
oh and do you live in India
I don't live in India no... never even been to India for that matter
hmmm,, are you sure that this is related to changing Roms (winmor or android)
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In short, no I am not sure ... but the coincidence cannot be overlooked. I've had my account for several years and this had never happened before.
I also checked my PCs and they're clean, I don't use (or let anyone use) my account for stupid things like sending out webcards or anything of the like.
My intention though wasn't to indicate there is a problem, but to raise awareness of the potential for one.
weird problem , should figure out what it is ..
IP address belong to
Geolocation Information
Country: India
State/Region: Maharashtra
City: Pande
Latitude: 18.3833
Longitude: 75.2333
WinMo ROM, Android Builds, Installed Apps plz
btw, your account may be hacked through wireless when you login not using https/encryption
Did you check what was sent from your account?
hey
did you use a "good" password btw?
bb.
This is odd. Same thing happened to me couple of days ago.
Aparently someone sent the following message: "Subject: Have been searching for a best place to buy drugs? here it is: **url removed**" to all my google contacts.
My account was locked, with a message saying it was "compromised" - asking me to reactivate the account over sms / phonecall.
I did not check where this happened from , i just reactivated and changed my password.
I had the same thing happen to one of my dummy Gmail accounts a while back... an account i hardly use and have certainly never logged into on Android..
Just pure unlucky mate, nothing to do with Android any build or any Chef...
Reset your password - delete the crap - and get on with life...
This has also recently happened to my yahoo and facebook account, since the two were linked on winmo, I traced it found it came through via one of those stupid apps that someone dropped on my wall. Facebook has been going through a rough patch of these types of break-ins. It could be something with that if you own a FB account.
paulrgod said:
I had the same thing happen to one of my dummy Gmail accounts a while back... an account i hardly use and have certainly never logged into on Android..
Just pure unlucky mate, nothing to do with Android any build or any Chef...
Reset your password - delete the crap - and get on with life...
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Agreed, no win situation
andreasbjorvik said:
This is odd. Same thing happened to me couple of days ago.
Aparently someone sent the following message: "Subject: Have been searching for a best place to buy drugs? here it is: **url removed**" to all my google contacts.
My account was locked, with a message saying it was "compromised" - asking me to reactivate the account over sms / phonecall.
I did not check where this happened from , i just reactivated and changed my password.
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oh .. my also locked 2 days before ..... is this is all about this , oh man ...
i am using android now for several weeks and yesterday was the first time my phone asked me for my google password (in a textbox), after i entered it, everything was normal.
but now as i read this topic, i instantly changed my google account password
I'd agree that it ain't android...I've been getting e-mails from facebook/gmail friends, most of them with a topic saying: "Hi:" and most of them are fake user ads from a Taiwanese company. Be careful who you add on FB/Gmail etc.
I'll quickly reply to all of you as best I can
1) WinMo ROM is completely empty. No accounts setup, no contacts, even sense is disabled.
2) My Gmail password is quite strong (which is what surprised me the most) it is longer than 8 chars, combination of symbols, letters and numbers
3) I don't use *any* facebook apps/games, precisely for that reason
4) I had some returned undelivered messages in my inbox this morning, it was spam with a link to a website
5)My email account spoofed, I don't care. Happens all the time and there is not much you can do about that. What concerns me is that this person actually logged into my account and managed to send mail to all my contacts.
I'll post a list of my android apps soon (it's quite long)
Do you use the Gawker service to login to any of the websites they are a part of?
http://www.informationweek.com/news...html?articleID=228900009&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News
If so, that could be a good reason why you're getting spam.
Long story short i have my hotmail, along with other accounts setup in my evos email client, awhile back I noticed I sent myself an email about diet crap that I personaly did not send and so I dismissed it.
Well tonight I had over a hundred mailer daemon unable to reach address blah blah in my email inbox I check my sent box and sure enough my account has been mailing random people crap about diet stuff.
Anyways i heard Android has some exploits that could be leading to our phones being related in a exploit.
I changed my email password and it stopped doing this temporarily but it started right back up again after a while.
Can this be Related to my phone at all?
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It's probably not your phone.
It's far more likely that you (or someone else in your household) clicked something you shouldn't have on a website, and have a keylogger on your computer now.
Or if you're... Uneducated enough to be running an open WiFi network (or, even more facepalm-worthy, connected to one that doesn't belong to you, and mooching off it), then someone could be picking up your plaintext passwords.
But really, biggest chance is you've got some malware on your computer. Congrats!
Your biggest issue is that you are still using hotmail...
- Changed your hotmail password from a virus-free computer or your EVO's browser.
- Run AntiMalware and an antivirus on your computer.
- Switch to Gmail
Problem solved.
well, i know about wlan encryption and i use wpa2 personal, i also know how to crack wep
i also know about keystroke loggers, i do use them and know how to detect software versions of them
somehow my girlfriend somehow gets a copy forwarded to her of email i reply to, even though there is no trace of a setting for this anywhere that i can find, which i always found suspicious and it doesn't happen all the time. she could be spying or maybe its from when we tried to link our outlook calendars and something broke
i use hot-mail because until recently i have had zero problems and i created this hotmail account back in 2001 on my dream cast before i even knew how to turn on a pc, and now i run a computer repair shop, so it kinda has sentimental value, so i want to fix this, not throw it away. also i have many other email address for work and school purposes so email isn't nothing new to me.
last night i had my gf change my password on my hotmail account because i was on my evo and hotmail.com kept sending me to their mobile site and i couldn't see any settings for change password and she had her laptop in her lap. maybe her laptop is the culpti but i doubt it, i will check into it though.
today i changed my password to my hotmail on my work computer. i will allow my evo access to the new password for the sake of tying to figure out where the culprit is and only changing one thing at a time.
thanks for the replies i really was hoping to hear that someone has less then public information about hotmail email servers them selves being hacked. because i have friends with hotmail accounts that started spamming me not too long before my account starting spamming others.
i guess i'll use this thread to keep notes on this situation, but thanks for the replies
zeuzinn said:
- Changed your hotmail password from a virus-free computer or your EVO's browser.
- Run AntiMalware and an antivirus on your computer.
- Switch to Gmail
Problem solved.
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yep all I had to do was change my email on another SAFE PC and then I was good to go. But dont discount adware programes and all.
DL and run/update
Malware bytes, Super antispyware and update and load spyware blaster. You'll be good to go.
spybot/teatimer ftw
drmacinyasha said:
It's probably not your phone.
It's far more likely that you (or someone else in your household) clicked something you shouldn't have on a website, and have a keylogger on your computer now.
Or if you're... Uneducated enough to be running an open WiFi network (or, even more facepalm-worthy, connected to one that doesn't belong to you, and mooching off it), then someone could be picking up your plaintext passwords.
But really, biggest chance is you've got some malware on your computer. Congrats!
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Please don't be politically correct. :|
Stupid not uneducated. He says he knows all this, so uneducated wouldn't apply.
...
Sorry, I'm very blunt. :|
Well my hotmail accounts were still spamming people, also my yahoo account started to join in on the fun.
I changed passwords on both accounts to something very lone Qiu no dictionary words and used numbers and symbols. And about a day later low and behold I am spamming people again.
Focusing in on my hotmail account, I can see the sent folder, in my web based GUI, I can see all these emails that my account has been sending.
I have probably have questionable apps on my phone so I thought I'd wipe my phone. Well, its been 4 days since I have had any problems.
While I can't confirm my suspecion, I can suggest as a possibility that my phone had something that was pulling my passwords and sending them out to someone or something that would inturn log into my accounts and spam away.
I don't have time to really look into this any more thoroughly but I thought I'd document my observations.
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potna said:
well my hotmail accounts were still spamming people, also my yahoo account started to join in on the fun.
I changed passwords on both accounts to something very lone qiu no dictionary words and used numbers and symbols. And about a day later low and behold i am spamming people again.
Focusing in on my hotmail account, i can see the sent folder, in my web based gui, i can see all these emails that my account has been sending.
I have probably have questionable apps on my phone so i thought i'd wipe my phone. Well, its been 4 days since i have had any problems.
While i can't confirm my suspecion, i can suggest as a possibility that my phone had something that was pulling my passwords and sending them out to someone or something that would inturn log into my accounts and spam away.
I don't have time to really look into this any more thoroughly but i thought i'd document my observations.
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STOP using pirated apps. That's my guess.
It was most likely an app that requests permissions to your contacts and email. There are a lot of shady apps out there and google needs to step up with this crap.
I always avoid them but it's ridiculous how many apps (themes and stupid stuff) request information.
Well surprise surprise, it was most likely an app I got from the market that was stealing my info. Not that I can confirm it, but most of the replies implied I was an idiot and that it couldn't possible be my phone. I eventualy got an email from Google saying I had installed something from the mArket that was infected.
So it was not that I'm stoopid ignorant, it wasnt that i was using hotmail, it wasnt that my pc was infected.
It was my phone all along.
Maybe there is a thread about this already, but I bet my topic.was created first and I thought I'd bring this thread to a conclusion.
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I hate to say it but if you downloaded an app that infected your device with malware you still are pretty stupid. Not trying to be an a**hole here but if you actually researched the app before downloading it you could have advoided it altogether. Common sense is still the best antivirus.
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This isn't malware on your phone. It's been a huge issue with hotmail for the past couple of weeks. People who use the same pass across multiple sites usually are the most vuln. Also happens when you get phished.
I have a friend thats has the same thing going on with his hotmail...hasn't been using it at all and all of a sudden I'm getting emails from him sending me links to increase my penis length...and god knows I don't need that..
I wouldnt dismiss it being non-phone related. I recently have been having it happen on my hotmail account as well and I have not logged into my hotmail account on a computer in years only have it on my phone to setup craigslist ads, Redbox rentals and small stuff like that and use gmail for important stuff. I dont have any Pirated apps or anything just normal stuff 12 or so games and 15 or so other market apps.
Same thing happened to my hotmail a while back. I changed my password and it solved the problem.
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alright guys stop calling the op stupid and learn ya something yourselves. Even legitimate apps were affected read the news every once in awhile and you would know. This is just one of the many articles on the topic.
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml;jses...fVH2Mtw**?nid=20039881&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-83
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This isn't malware on your phone. It's been a huge issue with hotmail for the past couple of weeks. People who use the same pass across multiple sites usually are the most vuln. Also happens when you get phished.
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Exactly, it happened with my hotmail account a few months ago, and I havent used my hotmail in months.
alright guys stop calling the op stupid and learn ya something yourselves. Even legitimate apps were affected read the news every once in awhile and you would know. This is just one of the many articles on the topic.
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Unless you login to hotmail from your phone's browser, there is no way one of these apps could get your hotmail info.
i swear, i dont know why i take peoples opinions so damn seriously around here...but for the sake of my sanity and the general level of competence of reading and having accurate postings with good conclusions here i go again.
there were a handful or legitimate applications on the market than were infected.
i already changed my email passwords and it ddint help
when i formatted/re flashed rom...it stopped
i later received some notification of some market tool that Google automatically installed and ran and "fixed the issue"
i received an email from Google telling me about a phone tied to my gmail account may have been infected, but i already solved my issue my self, so their fix didn't apply.
how the hell can you people some how twist this into "op is dumb, or stupid"?
now for a bit of my SPECULATION, and its only that, its not my opinion thrown at you as fact, as so many here love to do.
what are the odds that all of us android users just happen to have our email accounts hacked? whats the one thing all of us email user have in common on these boards....android. just saying
btw, more than just my hotmail account was hacked.
here are some urls that the idiots wont read, talking about what i have been trying to say
http://www.google.com/search?q=Droi...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
I got my N4 a couple of days ago. It's my first foray in the Android world.
The requirements that I am hoping to meet are pretty simple:
1) I want to be able to call contacts and send text messages
2) I don't want Google tracking my contact list
3) I don't want Google tracking my location
4) I don't want Google tracking my browsing history
5) I want to be able to use the Play store to download 3rd party apps. I didn't buy an N4 to use it it like a dumbphone. Logically, the Play store shouldn't require constant access to my contacts, location or browsing history.
I am making this post to get help meeting the above requirements. Despite seeming really basic, I'm running into trouble, and I think I will need frequent help. This thread can act as a journal that hopefully other people can follow.
What I did so far is immediately flashed the N4 to AOKP, and applied the OpenPDroid patches (though I've yet to use OPD). From a blank slate start, I declined to create an account, disabled location access, etc, during the startup wizard.
Adding a contact round 1
I was able to create a local, unsynced contact.
Using the Play store
I was forced to sign up for a gmail account, which is normal. I declined to "keep this phone backed up with my Google Account". I then went in Settings > Account and disabled sync for everything, including Contacts. I also disabled background sync in the power controls.
Adding a contact round 2
I am now unable to add a contact without being forced to sync it with my BS gmail account. When I click "Add Contact" in the phone app, a dialog says "Your contact will be synced with [email protected]" and my choices are either "OK", "Add other account", or to cancel out by clicking Back.
So I'm already stuck. Once a Play account is created, I am now unable to do something as basic as adding a contact without sending it to Google. Can someone tell me how to get past this obstacle?
That's how Google makes their money! Your only options are to either start using the amazon app store only or side loading apps if you don't want Google involvement. Good luck.
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Why? Like they don't have all your information already? You freely give your information to everyone when you use the internet. Congratulations. You are not that special.
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Eurotrash: always in this sort of discussions there's people like you who essentially advocate shutting up and taking it. "That's how things are" is not an acceptable solution to my problem, or I would not have made this post. There IS a way around the creeping, and someone knows it. My last resort is blocking every Google service from accessing the Internet except Play. I'm asking here because I'm hoping there's a less extreme solution that other people can use.
Gotzadroid: I will hold out for a better solution. Amazon appstore will likely be limited. Sideloading is not possible because many devs don't provide APKs
I know you can get an app to block individual permissions of other apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stericson.permissions
It requires root. Not sure about the contacts and other stuff you wanted to block, im assuming you've disabled location services.
Why not try flashing like cm10 and not flashing gapps so no Google apps? Then just manually downloading the apps apks and sideload the ones you need?
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Didn't think my post lacked clarity, so hopefully this will be clearer:
My ONLY problem right now (we'll leave the rest for later) is that the Phone app, an essential app if I want to use my phone for making calls, an app that isn't even part of Gapps, doesn't let me add a local contact without sharing it with Google. That's it. Forget everything else in my post.
So my simple question is, how do I add my friend Bob to my contact list, locally in phone memory or on the SIM card or whatever, without telling Google I'm friends with Bob and giving them his phone number?
MachinTrucChose said:
Didn't think my post lacked clarity, so hopefully this will be clearer:
My ONLY problem right now (we'll leave the rest for later) is that the Phone app, an essential app if I want to use my phone for making calls, an app that isn't even part of Gapps, doesn't let me add a local contact without sharing it with Google. That's it. Forget everything else in my post.
So my simple question is, how do I add my friend Bob to my contact list, locally in phone memory or on the SIM card or whatever, without telling Google I'm friends with Bob and giving them his phone number?
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As previously mentioned, try flashing a rom without gapps
OK, try this. Make a dummy gmail account for the play store only. Get all the apps you want and then sign out of gmail. Only sign back in when you want another app. That should keep Google from syncing all your info.
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Michealtbh said:
As previously mentioned, try flashing a rom without gapps
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The Phone app is not a part of gapps. It came on the stock ROM before I flashed gapps on it. I didn't try it before adding gapps, are you saying it will change behavior and no longer prompt me to sync when I try to add a contact?
I gotta go to sleep, I'll do more tests tomorrow evening to test this (and wait for your reply to the above question in case you misread my posts).
If the answer to the above question is yes, this would immediately beg another question: how do I install 3rd party apps from Play without flashing gapps?
gotzaDroid said:
OK, try this. Make a dummy gmail account for the play store only. Get all the apps you want and then sign out of gmail. Only sign back in when you want another app. That should keep Google from syncing all your info.
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That's what I did in the OP (2nd bolded step). I created a dummy account cause Play requires it. That became my main Google account on this phone (since I declined to set up an account prior to that). That's the account Google tries to sync my contacts to when I try to add a contact.
I looked in the Gmail app, there's no way for me to sign out. All I can do is add more accounts.
A similar thread from the galaxy nexus forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589367
However, I'd also be interested in a deeper insight on why you're trying to do this. Fear of the big brother? Or just proving a point?
We know before buying an android phone that everything is tied to that Gmail address; now you want to cut that tie but maintain full functionality. Well, that probably doesn't work. And if it at the end does, why going through all that trouble? If a different platform offers all that then..
Why you bought an android phone in the first place? Just curious
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You can try downloading or side loading the app "contacts+" then sign out of your dummy gmail account. You can get a sim to USB hub online and plug your sim into the hub and into PC to add contacts directly to sim. I don't know if there's a way to export contacts to sim anymore unless I'm guessing developers somehow add that feature. So look into CM or another well built ROM and ask some questions.
Good luck
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MachinTrucChose said:
The Phone app is not a part of gapps. It came on the stock ROM before I flashed gapps on it. I didn't try it before adding gapps, are you saying it will change behavior and no longer prompt me to sync when I try to add a contact?
I gotta go to sleep, I'll do more tests tomorrow evening to test this (and wait for your reply to the above question in case you misread my posts).
If the answer to the above question is yes, this would immediately beg another question: how do I install 3rd party apps from Play without flashing gapps?
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Stock rom comes with gapps already loaded.
Most custom roms come without them and they must be flashed separately. If you choose not to flash them you aren't even given an option to sign into your Google account at first boot, so there will obviously be no option to sync your contacts.
Your phone will be crippled and you'll have to find workarounds for many things. I don't think you'll be able to use Maps for example. To install apps you'll have to download and install the apks or use an alternative app market like SlideMe or Amazon
What's there to hide? They're just contacts
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Google doesn't care what your Aunt Bertie's phone number is. All they use the data for is to customize ads for you, and if you're going to be seeing ads anyways they might as well be relevant to you.
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It's disappointing that the thread is taking the direction of Google advocacy rather than finding a technical solution to my problem, hopefully this post answers your questions and we can stop arguing about this.
Drakkula4 said:
You can try downloading or side loading the app "contacts+" then sign out of your dummy gmail account.
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How do I sign out of my dummy gmail account?
Vangelis13 said:
A similar thread from the galaxy nexus forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589367
However, I'd also be interested in a deeper insight on why you're trying to do this. Fear of the big brother? Or just proving a point?
We know before buying an android phone that everything is tied to that Gmail address; now you want to cut that tie but maintain full functionality. Well, that probably doesn't work. And if it at the end does, why going through all that trouble? If a different platform offers all that then..
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Nope, not full functionality. I can avoid using all gapps. The only required Google service is the Play store, which is the primary gateway to non-Google apps. I would use Email over Gmail, Navfree over Maps, etc.
The next paragraph is meant as a reply to the 5 posts essentially saying "tinfoil hat, trust Google!".
This is supposed to be an open phone, allowing the user to do what they want, compared to the big bad iOS. That's why I bought it. Now I find out Google is insisting on taking something extremely private (my social graph) even when I don't want to give it to them. I respect my friends' privacy, and I don't want an intersection of my online and offline lives being made by some 3rd party with intentions I don't trust. The insistence is starting to creep me out. You can provide convenience and still respect basic privacy, look at Mozilla with Firefox Sync: even they don't see the data you sync. I'm not even asking for that much, just respect my wish to draw the line at real-life stuff. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, this is the company banning people using pseudonyms on Google+.
The most disappointing thing in all this, is that you have 5000 custom ROMs being developed, which mainly differ in pointless GUI BS like scroll animation speed. Not a single one of those projects thought to provide a way to make the phone usable without giving up extremely private data. AFAIK only 3 guys are working on privacy stuff, and even those guys' patches and apps don't protect you from the Eye of Google.
chrisrozon said:
Google doesn't care what your Aunt Bertie's phone number is. All they use the data for is to customize ads for you, and if you're going to be seeing ads anyways they might as well be relevant to you.
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What if I don't want tailored ads? Or what if I only want tailored ads by tracking the online activity I'm willing to submit to them, and I feel it should be my my right to draw a line? Many people are not comfortable seeing an intersection of online and real life activity. I am one of those people.
MachinTrucChose said:
Didn't think my post lacked clarity, so hopefully this will be clearer:
My ONLY problem right now (we'll leave the rest for later) is that the Phone app, an essential app if I want to use my phone for making calls, an app that isn't even part of Gapps, doesn't let me add a local contact without sharing it with Google. That's it. Forget everything else in my post.
So my simple question is, how do I add my friend Bob to my contact list, locally in phone memory or on the SIM card or whatever, without telling Google I'm friends with Bob and giving them his phone number?
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Simple question deserves simple answer, only thing I can think of, go to settings > accounts > google > tap your account email address > and uncheck the things you don't want synced with google.
Hopefully it works and you will just have a local copy of everything then.
Again just flash like cyanogen mod since you have to flash gapps separate. Then don't flash gapps and your phone will have nothing to do with google.
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I got my girlfriend an S7 Edge on my Sprint account recently. A few days later, I noticed my Sprint bill was inflating due to in-app purchases ("gold bars" for $1.07 each on some stupid game, dozens of them). So of course I used the Sprint website to disable charges to the acct.
Now I've just become aware that a Netflix charge put her account negative. I looked at her account and sure enough, she's been charging the same in-app purchases to her own debit card. It's frustrating because money is tight.
Anyway, counseling aside... She has her own Gmail/Google account, so short of changing her Gmail password & using the Google Play password requirement for all purchases (nothing to stop her from resetting her Gmail password) or putting her phone on my Google account, how can I use some Sprint or 3rd party app to prevent an *adult* from making any Google-related purchases, even with her own debit card & Google account? Is this possible?
Thanks.
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I can't think of anything to suggest besides a solution that would be significantly more drastic than the ones you've already mentioned & ruled out...
caffeiNater said:
I can't think of anything to suggest besides a solution that would be significantly more drastic than the ones you've already mentioned & ruled out...
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Such as? Drastic is not beyond my willingness. I was hoping Sprint or some 3rd party had an app designed for this purpose. Hard to stop an "adult" with her own debit card from entering CC info into her phone, ya know?
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There is no way, otherwise I could stop you from buying things. Talk to her, tell her it's real money and that it adds up.
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Hahaha. Get her a rooted phone and a cracked game and the stuff is free.
Dennis, the talk has been had, thrice, but she has an addictive personality, & not just for in-app purchases unfortunately. There is a much larger over-arching issue at play obviously, but I need to focus on just this one facet of it, for now. There has GOT to be a way to pull this off.
Come on guys... CaffeiNater: what was the drastic measure you alluded to?
Believe me Darth... I wish. Our S7's are the 1st phones I haven't rooted right out of the box, & we all know why. Careful with that kinda comment for the mod's sake though (he was clearly kidding mods).
Please brothers & sisters. I am officially desperate. Letting her bank account stay in the red has provided a temporary respit for now, but she gets paid Wednesday, & I have to go out of town to Houston on Monday for work all week.... Anyone? ANYTHING? AT ALL?
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There is no way, short of taking away her phone. Anything you do can be undone (cancel her debit card, she gets a new one; delete her google account and make her use yours, she can get a new account; change her password, same thing new account) sorry mate but either she learns or she doesn't.
The drastic measures I'd take are a fourth talk along the lines of "I'm not supporting you buying useless crap on the Internet. You get $X to spend on luxury items a month (same as me) so use it as you want, the rest of OUR money is used for bills and food. If you don't like it, pack your stuff." That kind of talk is hard, and it sucks, but either you won't have to worry about her spending all the money, or she will be a better person learning not to buy random crap in apps.
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You should be able to go into your sprint account and block 3rd party charges, that would keep her from charging to the account. As far as her isn't her debit card, I can't think of a way other than maybe creating a "game" account and put so much per month, once it's gone is gone till next month
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Here's what I ended up doing:
I took her phone (not covertly, I bought her the phone and I pay for the service) and I changed the password on her gmail account. I also changed the backup email account and backup text phone reset number to my own. Then I went into every single app on the phone that is linked to her Gmail account (OTHER THAN THE GOOGLE PLAY STORE) and entered the new PW, so that she will never be prompted for it, and have legit reason to ask me what it is.
The reset was psychological. Luckily she is extremely tech-naive. I told her what I had done, but then I also told her the *IF* she ever tried to reset the PW on her gmail account, OR link her phone to a new gmail account, that I would receive a text notification, and that all call/text/data service on her phone would immediately be disabled, other than emergency calls, and calls/texts to me. So far, this seems to have worked.
Am I a jerk?
trmitche2 said:
Here's what I ended up doing:
I took her phone (not covertly, I bought her the phone and I pay for the service) and I changed the password on her gmail account. I also changed the backup email account and backup text phone reset number to my own. Then I went into every single app on the phone that is linked to her Gmail account (OTHER THAN THE GOOGLE PLAY STORE) and entered the new PW, so that she will never be prompted for it, and have legit reason to ask me what it is.
The reset was psychological. Luckily she is extremely tech-naive. I told her what I had done, but then I also told her the *IF* she ever tried to reset the PW on her gmail account, OR link her phone to a new gmail account, that I would receive a text notification, and that all call/text/data service on her phone would immediately be disabled, other than emergency calls, and calls/texts to me. So far, this seems to have worked.
Am I a jerk?
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That seems like the best possible technological solution. You're not a jerk imo. The jerk move would be to enable her out of control behavior to continue.
(And sorry for the slow reply, but the drastic move I mentioned would be to end the relationship. Money issues such as this one are the reason many, many relationships end. Most problems tend not to go away on their own. Knowing that, think about whether it's better that things end when you're dating vs when there would be kids, divorce lawyers, etc involved. Sorry to get all negative. But the counseling that you mentioned initially would be a really good idea if you're envisioning a future together.)
Old fashion azz kicking would work
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