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Hi everyone! I just upgraded to the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy S4. Before I had the original Galaxy Note. I've rooted and loaded custom ROM's on all my previous Android devices (Captivate, Inspire 4G, Galaxy S II, and Galaxy Note), but I'm debating on rooting this device. It's running great on the stock ROM.
Has anyone else debated this? If so, did you go ahead and root and loaded a ROM then regret it or were you glad you did it?
You can run it absolutely stock and still be rooted. Rooting gives you the advantage of certain apps that require it, as I'm sure you know, such as Titanium Backup, Root explorer and others. Plus ability to get rid of AT&T apps you never do or never will use. fwiw
Root it! You want regret it. The possibilities are endless. And if you do prefer a stock like rom, well believe me there are GREAT custom stock like roms that these great devs have put together that run flawlessly with added benefits. Hope this helps. Happy Rooting
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even if you plan to keep the stock ROM, its worth it to root so you can uninstall the AT&T bloatware and remove the AT&T splash screen on start-up.
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even if you plan to keep the stock ROM, its worth it to root so you can uninstall the AT&T bloatware and remove the AT&T splash screen on start-up.
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I am on stock with root. I rooted it using Adam's casual only to have TiBu work. I froze all ATT bloats and some google and samsung apps. The stock is very fine for me.
Now I am debating to flash Paranoid rom to try their multiwindow and halo features...
Thanks for all the input everyone, I appreciate it. Knowing me I'll end up rooting it and loading a ROM since I can't leave stuff alone. HA!
Does anyone know if there's a ROM out there that someone has gotten Bluetooth Tethering to work? That's one thing I miss from ICS on my Galaxy Note.
Hey gk
In same boat, been flashing roms hundreds of times for over 3 years from early Nexus One days. Most of the reasons were to get newer OS's without waiting. However, one of the reasons I got the S4 was it already has the latest as in 4.2.2.
One thing I have learned as most of us have is there always seems to be something not 100% on each rom for some folks. Goes with the territory as we know. Although, I have been lucky in that area. Maybe due to lots of reading and proper pre-install wipes. Hats off to all the devs though for their long and tiresome hours giving us these great roms.
My concern, since this is early on with the S4 and no unlocked bootloader, are our chances higher to have issues.
My phone with all it's "gimmicks" is running fast and perfect--NO issues. I also would like TiBu and eventually a custom recovery for nandroids even if I don't flash a custom rom. Used both CWM and TWRP in the past. Also, Amon_Ra. All worked great for me.
But, like you and others will probably root and flash a custom recovery anyway.
Damn Samsung for making this so tough of a decision--
I was in same position lol I've been flashing andneven Ade a few Roms but ya know its cool and all but its a hassel sometimes enough for me to be stock! There's no reason IMO to flash anything this phone is packed to the gills with features already and its on a very new os so I feel like I wanna root and flash away but have found no reason to YET key word there and of course its purely my own standpoint
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Root it! You can get new features before they come to your carrier. ... I debated it and told myself I would stay rooted but run stock rom.... now they figured out ways to bypass the bootloader and flash roms and im back to crack flashing lol. ..
Yup. I thought I wouldn't root this thing. That lasted a week. Then I told myself it's fine the way it is, I don't need to flash a rom. That lasted 3 weeks. I'm not a flashaholic though. I usually pick one and stick with it for a while.
You think it runs fine until you've rommed it and added a kernel. Then you realize you had no idea how fine it could be.
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I wouldn't ever even own a phone that I couldn't root. It just gives you freedom over your phone. Again you don't NEED to run a custom rom to be rooted, but check out some of the TW custom Tom's that just take the phone to another level but still being stock
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Custom toms are bad ass lol I had to say it
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The Mint Jelly Rom battery life is insane ..it's worth rooting for that alone. Definitely root
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I'm more than likely going to root and load a ROM soon. I'm between two different ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305752
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I was a flashaholic on the captivate, and S II. I loved trying new ROMs like Miui and AOKP. But, since I got the Note II and now the S 4 I don't have that desire. My only reason for rooting usually was TiBu, and only from flashing so often. Without flashing a new ROM each week I had little need for restoring apps. After three weeks I finally rooted and started trying ROMs on this phone. It was about the same for my Note. I really like TouchWiz, and miss some of those features on AOSP based ROMs. I don't see the performance need for custom ROMs on either of these phones like I did on the older phones. I guess it just came out of boredom, in the end.
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Well, I finally gave in and rooted--knew I would
Used Adam's Casual--very easy--much more so than my HTC phones
TiBu and Nandriods already in use
Next step roms--
Still haven't rooted yet. I probably will over the weekend. Why can't I leave stuff alone? HA!
So stupid me, my note 3 downloaded the update itself, i got a text, reached for my phone and without knowing accidently clicked the install button.
Does this mean rooting cant be done for my note 3 anymore? or is there a workaround.
If i factory reset, does that revert my phone to the version it came out of the box?
Nah man your good. There's an app out though I haven't tried yet but I think it's called Kingo Root. Look for it on google. You can then install safe strap and flash some roms. I recommend Beans in my opinion tried em all and that one stuck for me.
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There are so many of these thread, yet people continue to make more and more... I think there should be one thread that is stickied or something where people discuss these issues instead making these threads over and over again
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Welcome to the note 3 forums. We welcome you as long as you do your job and search before making 1,000,000 new threads.
So,You just got your shiny new note 3 and dont know where to begin?
Well that's ok because, this is the all in one thread.
Lets begin​
How do I Root?
That is the common question around here. Im going to simplify this.. Here you go
For 4.3
1.The best and safest way is this method by @evilpotatoman. It does require a little work but in return you do get root Here is the link for That,
2.Another method that is faster, but does not offer busybox with install, nor did it originate from XDA-forums is Here,
For 4.4 Or KitKat
You have to Go to My thread located
Here,
This does root KitKat and provides a custom ROM.
How Do I Install Custom Rom's
First What you should know is that our phone has a locked bootloader. This means that we can not boot kernels. But we still can flash custom rom's Thanks to @Hashcode
To install custom rom's on 4.3, Head over Here,
Another method That i originally created, but does not work as good as safestrap, could be found Here
If you are on KitKat, Then you could either install my KitKat rom or wait for safestrap to be updated.
What Do I Do If I Bricked My Phone? Or if it wont boot?
Well There are 2 methods to get you back to stock and running again.
To Restore back to Jellybean (4.3) Follow this Thread Here
To Restore back to KitKat (4.4.2) Follow this Thread Here
Why are Rom's Based off different Bases & Whats the difference?
A little basic intro
MJ5,MI9 & MI1 Are all 4.3 AT&T Bases
Ml2 Is an international 4.3 Base
MlG is a leaked AT&T 4.4.2 Base
Mj5 Is the latest 4.3 AT&T Base
Ml2 Is the latest international Base
The difference depends on what you need. Right now There are pro's and con's to all bases
Mj5
-Fast Data speeds
-Better indoor Signal
-No Bluetooth internet tethering
Ml2
-NO group messaging
-lower signal in areas
-slower data
-Does have Bluetooth internet tethering
Leaked Kitkat base (MIG)
-Extremely fast
-Newer modem with better signal & speeds
-Safestrap is not yet updated to work with kitkat (But you could still install my 4.4 ROM)
Why is my GPS Crappy and How do i fix it?
This issue is well known with our phone. The main reason is bad software coding.
To fix this issue Flash this fix made by me, in safestrap or manually push the files using root explorer.
4.3-Click Here
4.4-(Coming Soon)
What is "SafeStrap & Why do i have to use it?
Safestrap is our main method of flashing Rom's and could be found Here,
Always WIPE before flashing a new ROM or expect to receive errors. DON'T BE LAZY
Issues with safestrap
-Sometimes the storage is messed up and shows that you are using all your memory, when you really are not.If you use a different app to check, then you should see your real memory usage.
Where are all the kernels located?
Like i stated earlier, We don't have kernels yet, because of our locked bootloader
Where are all the Roms compatible with my phone?
All compatible and ready to install rom's could be found Here
There is currently NO AOSP,CM Based Rom's, So don't ask
What is KNOX and how does it effect me?
KNOX is basically made to **** us. But Samsung calls it security.
KNOX is removed from most custom Rom's. Knox does prevent root apps from working properly and should be removed asap.
How do I transfer My bookmarks from ROM to ROM?
Follow the guide i created Here
Im still working on a list of roms,and cool mods that are compatible with our phone. they will be located in the second post.Mods please sticky this thread​
For me, to post mods and roms compatible with our phone
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Great information.
Thank you very much.
I have tried your KitKat 4.4.2. Glad to see it is rooted!
Now, it is easy to switch between MJ5 4.3 and MLG 4.4.2 through SafeStrap and Odin.
Wow very nice! Hopefully this will prove helpful.
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I will send people here. Thanks man. Wish we could donate to you. I bet there is a bunch of people who would love to buy you some drinks or whatever your in to....Thanks again for being organized and detailed. You have your Sh** together and its great!!!
Awesome work. Me personally Im waiting for SS to be updated but definitely keeping an eye out.
Im curious on one thing. When you discuss Knox and to 'remove it', would freezing this via TB server the same purpose? Also since youve had a go with 4.4, does Samsungs iteration of 4.4 still have the GPS issues or did they fix it? Just curious
Thanks!
Guys where can I get the stock rom my N900A (Note 3 AT & T) now install version 4.4.2 filtered want to go back to stock!
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Read the first post!!
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Thank you love your rom and glad to see you are so involved in the community
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No problem buddy
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hi, how do i manually fix push the GPS files?
So no root for sm900a. How can I load a custom rom without having to use a computer? Possible?
I really hate this thing as of right now wish I had my note 2 back
I found Ultimate rotation control but it fails to work properly
thanks, perfect thread for an android newbie :good:
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So no root for sm900a. How can I load a custom rom without having to use a computer? Possible?
I really hate this thing as of right now wish I had my note 2 back
I found Ultimate rotation control but it fails to work properly
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If you are referring to the N900A, thew is root! Just gotta search.
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Thank you. Now my almost $800 Samsung Galaxy note 3 has basic gps working properly. Samsung needs to hire guys like you
only thing missing is how to back up and restore...
so if you want a new rom...youre good to go..
Wanting to down grade back to JB rom from KITKAT v2
I Used to be on JB rom 4.3 And I really liked it. But I wanted to upgrade to to KitKat v2 because alot of people said they liked it. After I upgraded to KITKAT 4.4.2 I really did not enjoy it as much JB 2.6. I used to get 35000 score from Antutu Benchmark but now on V2 I get about 30000 score. And I thought the JB 2.6 was setup nicer. I dunno, but what I do know is that I would like to go back to JB 2.6 because I think it was a nicer piece of work. Anyone know where I can find the tutorial to downgrade back to JB 2.6? I thought I seen it before but I cant seem to find it. Thank you for your time.
htsl
I have now soft bricked my phone I am lost and need help! no one last night would help me! PLEASE help me now!!! I am stuck on step 4 of http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2559715
when I select "show all devices" it only list 2 "Samsung mobile usb cdc composite device" and " samsung mobile usb modem" what am I doing wrong????
some one on another thread said I am using the wrong drivers... where Do I find the correct drivers?
Thanks
Rick
Are you in download mode?
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First I Downgraded from MLG to MJ5 then rooted with Kingoapp and installed the SAFESTRAP as a recovery. [Will wipe EVERYTHING]
First Downgraded - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Sec Root - http://www.kingoapp.com/
Third Safestrap Recovery - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572978
Forth Flash Rom AOPS - http://galaxynote3root.com/att-galaxy-note-3-roms/dynamic-kat-xtreme-rom-for-att-galaxy-note-3/
All of this worked for me Hope this helps
Tell me if this works for you and if different 4.4.2 roms work...
this is amazeballz...this actually worked lol
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this is amazeballz...this actually worked lol
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What build # did you have?
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any chance this will work on nc2?
juman097 said:
First I Downgraded from MLG to MJ5 then rooted with Kingoapp and installed the SAFESTRAP as a recovery. [Will wipe EVERYTHING]
First Downgraded - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Sec Root - http://www.kingoapp.com/
Third Safestrap Recovery - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572978
Forth Flash Rom AOPS - http://galaxynote3root.com/att-galaxy-note-3-roms/dynamic-kat-xtreme-rom-for-att-galaxy-note-3/
All of this worked for me Hope this helps
Tell me if this works for you and if different 4.4.2 roms work...
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Tyvm for at least something for me to *try* today
just unboxed a Note3, was hoping for 4.3 randomly but as expected got 4.4.2.
I'm going in.
Tell me if it works for you. I'm going to be trying it on my other note 3 that has nc2 soon.
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Tyvm for at least something for me to *try* today
just unboxed a Note3, was hoping for 4.3 randomly but as expected got 4.4.2.
I'm going in.
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Just received my Note 3 today from AT&T and luckily it had 4.3 on it.
First "Fail" msg of the day
So I'm a "new" member and can't post links so imagine you didn't have to copy-paste this: m.imgur.com/3Ln2tdq
to see a screen that says Odin Fails on my computer + this msg on the 'droid:
UDC START
SW REV CHECK FAIL: [aboot]Fused 3 > Binary 2
I put all the required files on the SD Card, but maybe made a mistake when it says here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715 [step 1, the rollback]
"Put everything except for the system.img on your external SD card"
does that mean everything in the "system" folder? deleting / firing again.... any help is of course massively appreciated.
I have bitcoin, so I'm down to tip for relevant info
It doesn't work for NC2!
Nevermind, this piece of crap is going back to ATT.
I have the 'ole NC2 and I think that means it's unrootable for now
*#1234# to check yours
so sad that us humans can make such brilliant devices and greedy corporations destroy them with bloatware and restrictions.
#SadPanda
no way I'm rocking this un-rooted. Back to the drawing board...
What ROM is MLG? I don't recognize that. I went from 4.3 right to NC2.
MLG was the leaked KK rom for the note a few weeks ago
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Id jist warranty it out for software malfunction. No root is a malfunction imo and assurion sends 4.3 devices.
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just got another note and couldn't root. started looking around. is it really (still) true you cant root 4.4.2 nc2??
anyone know if this is a sammy decision or att?? cause this is not okay in my opinion.
so.. i guess.. does anyone have an invite I can have for the 1+ that I could have? Please.
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Nevermind, this piece of crap is going back to ATT.
I have the 'ole NC2 and I think that means it's unrootable for now
*#1234# to check yours
so sad that us humans can make such brilliant devices and greedy corporations destroy them with bloatware and restrictions.
#SadPanda
no way I'm rocking this un-rooted. Back to the drawing board...
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For starters, if your on MLG you can always go backwards as long as you didn't flash the boot loader.
2. There may never be root.
3. If you upgraded from NB4 to NC2, I don't feel sorry for you in the slightest. ( I played with a phone that had it, didn't make barely the slightest difference except lock you down even tighter.
4. Why must we post the same kind of threads over and over. ie.. What we don't have root, when's there going to be root. Can I root this 4.4.2. EVERY SINGLE DAY.
5 If you can't handle no root, return it in the 14 day window. Asurion will send a referb phone, which may be OK it may not.
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Scott
Does 5.0 not suck enough to do this yet? My new car has AndroidAuto and I want to use it but can't with my current 4.4.4 verison. Last I read, 5.0 sucked and everyone was trying to downgrade. I'm currently rooted with xposed framework and would miss not being able to turn my phone into a hotspot so hopefully that's possible by now too. What exactly do I need to do?
If you are on N12 you can get to 5.0 rooted. There are many threads on this. Have a search around!
I used a method by Jkruse, and now can even use safestrap without ODIN.
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If you are on N12 you can get to 5.0 rooted. There are many threads on this. Have a search around!
I used a method by Jkruse, and now can even use safestrap without ODIN.
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Is there a dedicated thread for the Jkruze method? I see him referenced here but I don't see anything about his method so far.
I used this as I was already rooted on N12. At the bottom of the first post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62333947
If you are not rooted you likely want to start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53447240
Warning/disclaimer: read everything before attempting anything to your phone....multiple times. These links / help may ruin your phone. Be careful
Ok, I get the process now after reading but I don't know how to SafeSTrap on NI2 if I'm already rooted. The instructions aren't clear on that, the title says you'll be able to use SafeStrap without ODIN but if I'm already rooted on KK then it just tells me to boot into safestrap...
Do I need to install SS? Do I need to disable xposed if/when I install it?
Ok I'm in SS now and I'm not sure if I should flash over the stock ROM or use a ROM slot. Thoughts? I already made a backup of the entire system and these phones have useless internal memory so I wanted to save space by wiping/installing over the stock ROM. Are there drawbacks to that?
If your rooted, you should have safestrap installed. When you boot your phone do you get a screen that pops up after the S5 screen?
It would show a image and have 2 buttons. One option would be recovery.
I didn't have it but I do now. My main question is about the slots, should I overwrite the stock one or install along side? Don't really have the storage to keep the stock slot but also don't know if doing that will do something irreplaceable.
Since you can load a stock 5.0 rooted ROM I'd do the stock slot... however, that's your call. Make sure you follow instructions to get right kernel and such.
Will you ever need 4.4.4 again ? Even so, long as you don't update the bootloader and can see it in Odin you can always rebuild.
Remember, once your on 5.0 with the newer kernel you can only get to safestrap by flashing the n12 kernel. U can do it by using odin, or lollipop safestrap application if applicable.
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I didn't have it but I do now. My main question is about the slots, should I overwrite the stock one or install along side? Don't really have the storage to keep the stock slot but also don't know if doing that will do something irreplaceable.
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I don't think the slots were ever working before the dev quit working on it.
Ok cool, that's what I wound up doing anyway and already had to test my backup to see that it worked (it does). Thanks for the help, I'm now on 5.0 and still rooted. Maybe my next step will be xposed, but the only thing I really used on that was the tethering and it already seems to work in this ROM.
Awesome! Glad to hear all is well.
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