i9500 Camera quality improvement - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Guys.. Do you agree that the camera quality of our i9500 device sucks? It is very strange to notice that comparing to the iPhone camera it is a couple of time worse! How can the camera of the Galaxy S4 Active shoot videos and make photos much more better quality than this device? Is there any development thread here where people create patches or camera mods to uncrease the quality? I saw a video recorded on an S4 Active in a car at night with only the dim light of the car on... and the video was so damn stable and the lights where so damn optimized.... how come the i9500 camera be so low on quality? Can you advice me anything to rise up this thing?

Mango Polo said:
Guys.. Do you agree that the camera quality of our i9500 device sucks? It is very strange to notice that comparing to the iPhone camera it is a couple of time worse! How can the camera of the Galaxy S4 Active shoot videos and make photos much more better quality than this device? Is there any development thread here where people create patches or camera mods to uncrease the quality? I saw a video recorded on an S4 Active in a car at night with only the dim light of the car on... and the video was so damn stable and the lights where so damn optimized.... how come the i9500 camera be so low on quality? Can you advice me anything to rise up this thing?
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Make sure your lens is clean! If it's not 100% clean, your camera will perform A LOT worse.

tuk1maar said:
Make sure your lens is clean! If it's not 100% clean, your camera will perform A LOT worse.
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iyou are right about the lens but anyway... this is a half of the solution... arent there any mod available for Lollipop?

Mango Polo said:
Guys.. Do you agree that the camera quality of our i9500 device sucks? It is very strange to notice that comparing to the iPhone camera it is a couple of time worse! How can the camera of the Galaxy S4 Active shoot videos and make photos much more better quality than this device? Is there any development thread here where people create patches or camera mods to uncrease the quality? I saw a video recorded on an S4 Active in a car at night with only the dim light of the car on... and the video was so damn stable and the lights where so damn optimized.... how come the i9500 camera be so low on quality? Can you advice me anything to rise up this thing?
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Mango Polo said:
iyou are right about the lens but anyway... this is a half of the solution... arent there any mod available for Lollipop?
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I use an I9505, and we have the Galaxy S6 camera, which makes our video very stabilized. Perhaps you have that too availible?

tuk1maar said:
I use an I9505, and we have the Galaxy S6 camera, which makes our video very stabilized. Perhaps you have that too availible?
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We have a port for that but the ROM it'self is soooo very unstable... What I am asking is maybe that there are some settings that are limited or some blocked ones, who knows...Because I read the cameras are the same between S4 models... so why should the quality be different?
For example if a light gets a little in the photo, that side of the photo will be very blury, but on an S4 active you never get such mess. On some websites they write that Active has a Back-Illuminated Sensor and i9500 doesnt. Is it because of this? Because other websites write that Active doesnt have and i9500 has... It is very confusing...
Anyway, if any Active user is reading now, let's post some comparing images for people to understand what I am talking about.
Even others say that their i9500 camera is very low on picture stabilization/ focus comparing to s2 and s3 models.... Why did Samsung make it like that?

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The notes camera

I just bought a new camera to tote around mainly for my wife. I thought it was a pretty good camera, it's a fuji 14mp point and shoot. I've had one in the past which was pretty good.
Anyway, my point being my freaking camera on my note takes much better pictures than this camera does. I would think a dedicated camera would be the winner but Samsung did a good job here.
I've seen threads past complaining about the notes camera but mine takes great pics. Needless to sat wife still asks for the phone to take pics. That was a waste of money
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Try comparing the two in conditions with poor lighting, particularly in any scenario that would require a flash or longer exposure.
When it comes to camera's, opposed to what alot of people think, the amount of megapixels you have isn't important at all. What's more important is the lens, and how big it is. The lighting, shutter time etc..
Just like knightnz said, the fuji would probably come out on top in "harder" to capture pictures.
Still I have to agree, the Note takes amazing pictures.
Yea I haven't tried the note much in low light or night pics so I'll have to check it out. I understand and have always read mp mean nothing so what is the point of these higher mp counts? I mean they are coming out with a friggin 41mp camera soon on a phone at that! Why the need for high mp if they don't affect quality?
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It is just for marketing purpose.
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sprintuser1977 said:
Yea I haven't tried the note much in low light or night pics so I'll have to check it out. I understand and have always read mp mean nothing so what is the point of these higher mp counts? I mean they are coming out with a friggin 41mp camera soon on a phone at that! Why the need for high mp if they don't affect quality?
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It's not like the phone takes a 2GB 41 mp jpeg lol. It's a new type of technology that combines pixles in such a way that it creates a 5-8mp file with lossless 4x zoom and greatly reduced noise.
The *real* breakthrough is the size of the lense and the amount of light it lets in. I've seen some sample pictures and it has a mean DOF effect and almost no noise.
Back to the point. The notes camera is great and it is better than a few point and shoots that my friends have, I just wish there was image stabilisation but that's just software right?
a wise man once said:
"The best Camera to have, is the one that's is in your hand."
I havnt been too impressed with the camera.. It is pretty good for a phone but I miss how fast my iPhone snapped a pic compared to this.. Not saying it's bad though
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James Harrison said:
Back to the point. The notes camera is great and it is better than a few point and shoots that my friends have, I just wish there was image stabilisation but that's just software right?
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Well, the best image stabilisation is actually hardware. It is a prism that moves based on a gyroscope to compensate for all camera movements. Effectively it keeps the physical focus point where it was and moves it slowly to where it now is, avoiding the quick shake caused by your movements. Software can only compensate slightly by moving the physical focus around in a similar way in a larger recorded image.
The best I have ever had is in my Sony HandyCam. It was the bees knees when I bought it many years ago. Full 1080p video with a superb and huge Carl Zeiss lens. Dark shots were great and better than most other cameras, and it even does a fair IR night mode. The videos are very stable as long as you do not do any large swings. The 10x optical zoom is also fantastic.
Now my Note stands in, but it will never replace the HC because of the poorer dark videos, lack of zoom, and the complete lack of stabilisation. Having said that, it is used a hell of a lot more as a camera and video cam, because it is always with me!
jb9217a said:
I havnt been too impressed with the camera.. It is pretty good for a phone but I miss how fast my iPhone snapped a pic compared to this.. Not saying it's bad though
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Once ics comes in, u will get 0 shutter lag ! much faster than iphone...
Is there anyway we can shut camera click sound ?
The camera is good enough.
But when you see your note camera taking better pictures than stand alone point and shoot snapper, you know you have crap point and shoot camera or the person taking photographs is not taking pictures properly.
Under good light conditions, these modern snappers will match the P&S sensor quality if you know what you are doing. Picture quality varies greatly by simple choice of settings by the person taking pictures on Note. Leave it at auto and you will not get the best results in tricky conditions. You also need steady hands to get good snaps from Note camera.
But overall, its good enough to be good casual snapper.
But if you start comparing Note against even older good compact cameras like Panasonic ZS7 (which is now outdated), its not even close. These point and shoot cameras will outperform Note under any condition. Leave alone more expensive and also cameras with newer better sensors available today.
The good thing about Note camera is that it takes more than decent pictures with relatively accurate colour reproduction unlike some other phone cameras.
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jeromepearce said:
..lack of zoom..
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There is a rather crappy digital zoom that happens when you press the volume button and swipe your finger across the slider that appears.. like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7abTRUO4WQ
(ignore the girl lol)
In other areas: I realise now that the stabilisation is hardware but you'd be SO suprised at how much software effects the video quality. I have 2 examples.
My old HD2 on windows mobile or android had TERRIBLE low light quality, frame rate dropped down to 9/10 fps, image noise was just unacceptable. -->
Updated to windows phone 7, and low light was quality is insane now. did not drop a single frame. The quality even went up to full 720p (which was not possible before)
I've even made some short movies with it because the low light was so good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZP68dAtn14 and the non "8mm style" shots in here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JQVeeZL4aQ
(sorry not trying to drop videos here but just so you get my point)
Second example is my transformer prime. Same thing. On Honeycomb terrible fps in low light and a whole heap of noise ---> ICS update and the camera was a different beast.
My point is, software is very important in mobile cameras. Once we get ICS, we can start complaining or praising properly
katyarevishal said:
Once ics comes in, u will get 0 shutter lag ! much faster than iphone...
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Dear katyarevishal,
I was hoping that till trying ICS leak but shutter lag is still same as GB... Losing my hope... Thats why i am using Fast Burst Camera app to catch the moment but limited to 1 mpx...
Kind regards...
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PROTOCHIP said:
Dear katyarevishal,
I was hoping that till trying ICS leak but shutter lag is still same as GB... Losing my hope... Thats why i am using Fast Burst Camera app to catch the moment but limited to 1 mpx...
Kind regards...
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thats because its a leak and hasnt got the fully working driverset

I9500 & I9505: Does the stock camera suck? Different camera sensors?

Long story short: About four months ago I was a happy iPhone 4 user. I really loved the camera quality and with Camera+ I could edit the pictures I made, which was great too.
In November 2012 I switched to the Galaxy S3. Loved everything about it except for the (wait for it.......) camera. It sucked so baldy, especially when coming from an iPhone.
I got my Galaxy S4 yesterday and I really love the camera It's much better than the iPhone 4 and even beating my dad's iPhone 5 (I'm talking about outdoor shots). But what I don't get is that some reviewers get extremely bad pictures with it. The reason they do get those blurry and noisy pictures is the stock camera app. Obviously, there's no auto-focus before the picture is taken. And the results are terrible. I even remember using the stock Samsung camera app on my old GS3 when I went on vacation after I bought it. I took many pictures and when I arrived home I had to find out that they were blurry (very nasty, actually). The disappointment was so big that I literally spent hours looking for a decent camera app.
Then I found Snap Camera HDR. The pics were better, but SGS3 camera still sucked (maybe I just caught a bad lens on my model).
So now, on my SGS4 I compared the stock app with Snap Camera. Conclusion: The stock app sucks. A lot. Sure, there's some awesome modes in it like Night Mode, HDR and all that. But who need that if there's no focus? Of all the pictures I took, about 70% were blurred because of its lack of a decent focus. It makes sense when people claim that the HTC One is better for capturing instant shots.
So guys, for shots in outdoor situations, try to use apps like Snap Camera or Camera FV-5. At least you'll have the pictures focused and I'm sure that you'll see some noticable improvement.
And this leads to the next question, namely if there are different sensors built in the two different versione (Snapdragon & Exynos). Some people here in the forum claim that the I9500 uses the Exmor RS and the I9505 uses the exmor R. When you look at some pictures of Chinese reviews one could think that it is true. But on the other hand, why would Samsung do that? Seriously?
For my part it's probably because of the guys using the I9500. Maybe they're using apps with better focus to get all out of the camera. Maybe they're using some stands for the shots they take. Or maybe they just have steady hands. I don't know. But using two different senors wouldn't make sense. I even called Samsung here in Switzerland and they told me that both versions have the same sensor when it comes to the camera.
I took some pics so you can see how they look like when you shoot them with Snap Camera HDR. The level of detail looks exactly like the one on the I9500 reviews from Russia and China. But judge yourself. Note that the pics were shot at bad conditions (rainy and cloudy weather). More pictures are coming next week.
So what version you bought? Because you never said in your post.
danm200 said:
So what version you bought? Because you never said in your post.
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9505 from what I read
《posted from s3》
I think, they both are using the same camera sensor. Difference in some picture are because there may be a dirty lens or not steady shot. All photos of i9500 and i9505 are very good and have the same parameters.
I just hope Samsung isn't using 2 different sensors besides 2 different CPU's, that would certainly upset a lot of users including me.
Sorry for not mentioning it: I have the I9505 European version.
I'll put the links below as soon as I can so you guys can see it

			
				
Daaaamn dat camera, thats some nice pics in not so good conditions, cloudy and all.
I thought they were maybe different sensors. Brian Klung from anandtech mentioned that he noticed 2 different sensor names for the exynos and Snapdragon versions.

camera FPS i guess every one should read

hello everyone ..
now i have been using my s4 for 6 months and i actually enjoyed them ..
but when it comes to the camera the quality is awesome but the shutter speed is why i am disappointed
in this video
i guess a lot of you have seen it
when it takes the photo it's like the phone stopped the time there is no that blur (the slowness in the shutter capturing)
every time i try to capture a moving object i get a blur in the photo
so any one of you have a solution for this ?
and i really can't understand why SGS4 Can't Record 1080p60FPS i guess the hardware is really capable of doing it
i hope to see your opinions .
I can tell the worse of this model is first the camera and second the battery for me.
Talking about the camera: the hardware is possible maybe, but the software still not either. Im listening all days how the members of my job speak about Samsung Galaxy s3, Note, Note 2 reminding the camera was so much better having less megapixels and less options for the photos or videos (one simple AUTO and u had a perfect photo/video everytime). Im very dissapointed with the camera of this model and with the new Note 3 camera too.

[Q] Camera performance after Jishnu/xdabebb mod?

Hi all, I 've been thinking of buying a new phone & I really like the g2 very much but the only thing that is stopping me is the camera performance.
Can someone please tell me after the Jishu/xdadebb mod how is the camera performance under low light, how is the autofocus in low light also is the continuous autofocus in the video problem resolved. How much is the shutter lag after the mod.
I really want to buy this device for the camera & its under my budget if the camera ain't good enough even after the mods I may go with oppo find 7a/oneplus one which are in the same budget but have better camera.
I dont capture my photos in low light. But the camera is pretty amazing with xdadebb mod, and Mi2Raw enables the G2 to capture raw footage as well.
The G2 and G3 has the same camera sensor, just that the G3 has a Z-Axis image stabiliser and laser autofocus. So if I were you, I'll go look at those camera comparisons on review sites comparing the G3, OnePlus One and the Oppo.
Edit: Video performance is pretty good too. xdadebb camera mod allows for tap to focus in video to focus your subject and it works well. It has object tracking too!
Edit 2: With dorimanx's kernel, I was able to turn down the mic gain when I was at a concert. That + the stereo recording = pretty awesome recording
Thanks @lowjinyik.
Anyone else using these mods please comment about the low light performace after the mod.
I haven't tried taking pictures in low-light conditions yet, I should, will do and compare later but under bright, sunshine outdoor, with Normal mode, I see virtually no difference in term of performance and image quality. There are several features that I haven't tried out yet.
mayur2j said:
Hi all, I 've been thinking of buying a new phone & I really like the g2 very much but the only thing that is stopping me is the camera performance.
Can someone please tell me after the Jishu/xdadebb mod how is the camera performance under low light, how is the autofocus in low light also is the continuous autofocus in the video problem resolved. How much is the shutter lag after the mod.
I really want to buy this device for the camera & its under my budget if the camera ain't good enough even after the mods I may go with oppo find 7a/oneplus one which are in the same budget but have better camera.
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The low light camera quality is good. The mod makes very little difference to low light pictures.
Thanks guys for your responses. I think I might go with oppo find7. It's better than the g2 in every aspect except battery life & OS updates. Which can be taken care by the VOOC charger & custom roms respectively.

[Q] What is up with the S5's rear camera?

just got the phone brand new yesterday coming from an s3 and i can instantly notice the camera is somewhat worse?
this is very obvious in low light, even with light the photos seem to look grainy like the phone is always zoomed in. am i missing something? any tips here from other S5 owners
i'm on stock 4.4.2 rooted
sample images below, the quality on the s3 while darker seems much more sharper.
sorry here are the right attachments
left is the S5 while right is the s3.
the S5 is so grainy i can barely see any detail, it appeals very grainy on the phone's screen also while taking the shot
That was taken on stock rom..
Try with flash ON mate
same problem,,
frpilot said:
sorry here are the right attachments
left is the S5 while right is the s3.
the S5 is so grainy i can barely see any detail, it appeals very grainy on the phone's screen also while taking the shot
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please tell us some info before we can help you ROM type hardware models? stock came or google cam?
any other info you can give us to actually let us know what the isue actually is would be nice
-PiLoT- said:
please tell us some info before we can help you ROM type hardware models? stock came or google cam?
any other info you can give us to actually let us know what the isue actually is would be nice
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hi sorry
samsung galaxy s5 international version 4g - stock cam and google cam also..
I have got the same problem!!
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i feel this is a really silly thing.
especially coming from an S3 and to the newer S5, the phone looks like it is always zoomed it when taking a photo.. it is THAT grainy in low light
i have seen some reviews and threads about the front facing camera being grainy which i can understand but this is the rear camera?
my S3 camera, while darker is much much more sharper than the S5 which is quite disappointing.
does anyone have any ideas or thoughts?
try
turning on image stabilisation, its S5's night mode.
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S3 Normal - S5 Normal - S3 Low Light - S5 Image Stabilisation
Kriomag said:
turning on image stabilisation, its S5's night mode.
Images:
S3 Normal - S5 Normal - S3 Low Light - S5 Image Stabilisation
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+1. Stabilization is the key [emoji4]

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