In complete honesty, I would never try rooting absent absolute necessity, but now I am at that point. I have an app that will not work on Lollipop that I have to use daily (app will be updated by August per developer); it is essential for a particular portion of my work, and I am the only one affected by this as all the others use an iDevice. I am being reminded by Verizon to install Lollipop almost every time I look at my phone, now rendering the phone unusable. I have to root to freeze the app that is giving those reminders, if I am reading the various forums right. I have used computers for decades, and programmed in the IBM PC days, but have no experience with this stuff. And the information I see on how to do it is all either internally contradictory or unclear, or uses terminology that I don't understand. (The thread linked to in the FAQ in this forum included... it has many pages of replies, some which are contradictory themselves. I think I have figured out what Odin is, but don't understand such things as "flash an older build," Knox, and the like.
Can anyone help by pointing to a clear procedure to root and stop the reminders from VZW to update to Lollipop? I do not have any desires regarding this other than to stop the reminders so I will not have to update to Lollipop before August. I would be immensely grateful and would be glad to make a contribution to the charity of the choice of anyone who can provide a comprehensible solution soon.
As stated in the title, on my phone the KitKat version is 4..4.4 and the build is NK7 (I did install the last KitKat update before Lollipop).
doug1492 said:
In complete honesty, I would never try rooting absent absolute necessity, but now I am at that point. I have an app that will not work on Lollipop that I have to use daily (app will be updated by August per developer); it is essential for a particular portion of my work, and I am the only one affected by this as all the others use an iDevice. I am being reminded by Verizon to install Lollipop almost every time I look at my phone, now rendering the phone unusable. I have to root to freeze the app that is giving those reminders, if I am reading the various forums right. I have used computers for decades, and programmed in the IBM PC days, but have no experience with this stuff. And the information I see on how to do it is all either internally contradictory or unclear, or uses terminology that I don't understand. (The thread linked to in the FAQ in this forum included... it has many pages of replies, some which are contradictory themselves. I think I have figured out what Odin is, but don't understand such things as "flash an older build," Knox, and the like.
Can anyone help by pointing to a clear procedure to root and stop the reminders from VZW to update to Lollipop? I do not have any desires regarding this other than to stop the reminders so I will not have to update to Lollipop before August. I would be immensely grateful and would be glad to make a contribution to the charity of the choice of anyone who can provide a comprehensible solution soon.
As stated in the title, on my phone the KitKat version is 4..4.4 and the build is NK7 (I did install the last KitKat update before Lollipop).
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you can install stock firmware from samsung using odin and it wouldn't trigure knox, knox is something Samsung use to tell if you flashed any custom roms or messed around with things you shouldnt have which voids your warranty.so all i can understand is that you want to root your phone and keep it at stock without tripping knox. i have found you a link to root your phone without tripping knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-update-to-g900vnk7-4-4-4-t3037902
try that and message me if you have any problems
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I have just flashed new firmware N7100XXUEMK4 (INU) I rooted it but it's SuperSU is saying that i have to manually re-root, I tried everything but no results, Knox is blocking it, so I searched how to re-root it, but there is not results in web, if you can help me guys show me hot to do it
Use multi tool advance by dr ketan to root from custom recovery...
stonedead said:
Use multi tool advance by dr ketan to root from custom recovery...
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Not working ..
Something not right then, it should work..I already use it several times to root 4.3 firmwares.
stonedead said:
Something not right then, it should work..I already use it several times to root 4.3 firmwares.
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I don't know friend, this knox is blocking everything, I am looking for tutorials but no results, I tried several multi tools, no SuperSU, when I download it as I mentioned it saying to manually re-root, I don't know if anyone can help pls help :laugh::laugh:
Hi, this might help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47955062&postcount=29
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Hi, this might help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47955062&postcount=29
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Yes my friend I also tried this. It's saying FAIL ! Unsuported Version...
This one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45609987&postcount=3
use the one for 4.3 firmwares.
Try this.
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Thank you for support !!! I tried everything you gave me but It's saying FAIL ! Unsuported Version.. I tried ALL odin versions, I can't flash MJ5. now I don't know what to do, I stuck to 4.3 not downgradable even rootable...
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Thank you for support !!! I tried everything you gave me but It's saying FAIL ! Unsuported Version.. I tried ALL odin versions, I can't flash MJ5. now I don't know what to do, I stuck to 4.3 not downgradable even rootable...
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Not only you mate. Me too. End up I bricked my phone after I get that unsupported version.
I'm stuck in the world of 4.3 as well
I flashed in the Indian version before I knew the dangers. Now I can't revert to any other firmware.
if there isn't a decent fix for this I am done with Samsung for ever. We should be allowed to root our phones.
Hi, I root my Note 2 with MK1 using this file: CF-Auto-Root-t03g-t03gxx-gtn7100.zip
1- Put your device in download mode
2- Open Odin3_v3.09
3- Turn off "Auto-Reboot" and in AP select the uncompressed file.
4- Flash CF Auto Root and after you see a blue message "RESET" in Odin
5- Immediately put your phone in recovery mode (Vol UP + Home + Power)
6- Install SuperSU
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Not only you mate. Me too. End up I bricked my phone after I get that unsupported version.
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Did you fix it ? I have rooted my 4.3
bekasulaberidze said:
I have just flashed new firmware N7100XXUEMK4 (INU) I rooted it but it's SuperSU is saying that i have to manually re-root, I tried everything but no results, Knox is blocking it, so I searched how to re-root it, but there is not results in web, if you can help me guys show me hot to do it
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here my guide to root 4.3 follow it......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540761
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diaBoliQu3 said:
Not only you mate. Me too. End up I bricked my phone after I get that unsupported version.
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heres my guide to root 4.3 follow it......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540761
use dr ketan tool
its gooood
an open letter to Samsung
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use dr ketan tool
its gooood
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for me Samsung's Android 4.3 firmware has installed a locked down system and bootloader which prevents me from flashing in any non supported software. I get a fail as soon as I attempt to flash anything but the official version 4.3 which is currently installed.
I am hoping the response from the Android community is loud and strong, and that Samsung receives harsh feedback for taking such a hard stance on rooting and the use of unofficial roms on their phones. I have written to Samsung asking for clarification on their policy, and if there official response is that they will no longer allow users to root and or install other roms other than the official Samsung roms then I am going to sell my samsung phone and purchase a nexus 5, and never purchase another Samsung telephone again.
I think that Samsung should or for a download which will clear out the secure boot loader and system and allow users to install the firmware of their choice. I do like the official Samsung Android 4.3 firmware, but I need root to be able to add the tweaks that allow me to make the phone perfect for my use.
the following is my letter to samsung:
Re: Customer reference number: 2116477974
Please quote your customer reference number when contacting Samsung
Email response ID: 2118916545
you are missing my point and did not address my issue. I understand that samsung does not SUPPORT unofficial firmware. I'm not asking for support. I'm asking for Samsung NOT TO BLOCK the installation of unofficial firmware.
As I stated previously, I would like to know whether or not Samsung is going to prevent owners of their telephones from installing whatever firmware they want. Right now I am stuck with the official version of Android 4.3, & I am NOT able to root it nor install another firmware. If this is samsung this official policy, to block users from installing the firmware of their choice I am going to sell this phone and I assure you I will never ever purchased another Samsung telephone.
You should be trying to encourage your users to be happy with your equipment. The enthusiast who for their own reasons want to modify your device should be encouraged. That should be a sector of the market that you would want to go after. After all, us Samsung owners are people who want to give you our money when we upgrade to your future devices. As it is right now I would never think of purchasing a note 3 because of your firmware policy. If you will not allow your users to install the firmware of their choice I will have no option but to purchase one of your competitors products. I could go into the reasons why I prefer to root my phone, but let me just say generally that it allows me to add or change features that allow the device to behave in a way and do things which are important to me, in areas where your official firmware falls short fit my needs.
Speculation on the web is that your policies are designed to curry favor in the business world where I teach departments would appreciate that your device is locked down. If that is the case, I understand that you are also turning your back on the consumer base who wants an open and modifiable device.
My belief is that you should allow the consumer user to have a more open and friendly device. I would appreciate it if you would allow users like myself to remove the restriction that your latest firmware has placed on our devices by blocking unofficial firmware.
Greg
takoateli said:
for me Samsung's Android 4.3 firmware has installed a locked down system and bootloader which prevents me from flashing in any non supported software. I get a fail as soon as I attempt to flash anything but the official version 4.3 which is currently installed.
I am hoping the response from the Android community is loud and strong, and that Samsung receives harsh feedback for taking such a hard stance on rooting and the use of unofficial roms on their phones. I have written to Samsung asking for clarification on their policy, and if there official response is that they will no longer allow users to root and or install other roms other than the official Samsung roms then I am going to sell my samsung phone and purchase a nexus 5, and never purchase another Samsung telephone again.
I think that Samsung should or for a download which will clear out the secure boot loader and system and allow users to install the firmware of their choice. I do like the official Samsung Android 4.3 firmware, but I need root to be able to add the tweaks that allow me to make the phone perfect for my use.
the following is my letter to samsung:
Re: Customer reference number: 2116477974
Please quote your customer reference number when contacting Samsung
Email response ID: 2118916545
you are missing my point and did not address my issue. I understand that samsung does not SUPPORT unofficial firmware. I'm not asking for support. I'm asking for Samsung NOT TO BLOCK the installation of unofficial firmware.
As I stated previously, I would like to know whether or not Samsung is going to prevent owners of their telephones from installing whatever firmware they want. Right now I am stuck with the official version of Android 4.3, & I am NOT able to root it nor install another firmware. If this is samsung this official policy, to block users from installing the firmware of their choice I am going to sell this phone and I assure you I will never ever purchased another Samsung telephone.
You should be trying to encourage your users to be happy with your equipment. The enthusiast who for their own reasons want to modify your device should be encouraged. That should be a sector of the market that you would want to go after. After all, us Samsung owners are people who want to give you our money when we upgrade to your future devices. As it is right now I would never think of purchasing a note 3 because of your firmware policy. If you will not allow your users to install the firmware of their choice I will have no option but to purchase one of your competitors products. I could go into the reasons why I prefer to root my phone, but let me just say generally that it allows me to add or change features that allow the device to behave in a way and do things which are important to me, in areas where your official firmware falls short fit my needs.
Speculation on the web is that your policies are designed to curry favor in the business world where I teach departments would appreciate that your device is locked down. If that is the case, I understand that you are also turning your back on the consumer base who wants an open and modifiable device.
My belief is that you should allow the consumer user to have a more open and friendly device. I would appreciate it if you would allow users like myself to remove the restriction that your latest firmware has placed on our devices by blocking unofficial firmware.
Greg
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Did U try to return to 4.1 2 firmware wuth odin 3.07, nit 3.09?
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panpetar said:
Did U try to return to 4.1 2 firmware wuth odin 3.07, nit 3.09?
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
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It's impossible to downgrade to 4.1.2 if you have official Knox bootloader, I did not know when I flashed indian version that will come with Knox bootloader, now I have stuck to 4.3 but I have successfully rooted my Galaxy Note 2, I tried everything to downgrade via odin but it says - Fail !! unsupported version-
Welcome to my world
Welcome to my world, friend. I've been trying for a week now to bypass Knox. But no success. Tried all ODIN versions and every possible flashing file out there. Even the one by dr.ketan. Nothing seems to work. I've been getting the unsupported version message on the Odin screen. Which even led to the OS crashing a couple of times. Had to recover using Kies. As I understood, the fix by dr.ketan was for a leaked test build. and not for the original mk4. Seems to me that Samsung purposely leaked that build to see if anyone finds a fix for it. As soon as dr.ketan found a fix, Samsung fixed it at their end enhancing their own security to block this fix. But the good part is that the Knox counter hasn't gone past zero. :good:
That means that I can still approach Samsung and kill them for this.
Well, we just have to wait till someone finds a fix for this. I'm stuck on the stock rom 4.3 too. Pretty boring if you ask me.
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Samsung Galaxy Tab 3
Sony Xperia S
I may not be a developer at Samsung, but I know what I'm taking about.
Hey everyone,
Just wanted to ask a quick question regarding the firmware
I got my UK unlocked S5 last week and as soon as I set it up, an update came through, which is 100mb, the note regarding say "Improved performance", the update download, but I haven't installed it yet. Mainly because of a bad experience I had after updating my S3. I haven't come across any bugs since I've been using it, and I'm concerned that if I update, the battery will drain quicker, or perhaps cause an error in the recovery mode(these things happened to my S3 after updating to 4.3). So 2 main questions.
1. Has anyone here downloaded this 100mb software update their S5? If so, what differences did you notice?
2. Suppose I updated and wasn't happy with the new changes? Would it be possible to go back to the original firmware version that my phone came with when I took it out of the box, *without rooting my S5?
Hope some people on here can shed some light on these questions.
Thank you in advance*
1. It's just a system update. The phone is new there are bound to be updates as issues are ironed out
2. You can odin any firmware whenever you want
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Has anyone here downloaded this 100mb software update their S5? If so, what differences did you notice?
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Your instincts are dead on. Updates may fix bugs or add a desireable feature. But just as often they introduce new bugs, break root or disable root exploits, break a few apps and add noxious DRM frameworks like the Knox qfuse warranty bit. They can seriously mess up a custom ROM and may depreciate features like MSC or car dock that may be important to you personally.
Updates cannot always be reverted. Try downgrading your Kitkat baseband to Jellybean and see what happens. Or try removing the Knox security bit after you take the update that introduced it. I disable automatic updates and wait to hear what early adopters find before upgrading.
Unfortunately you didn't tell us the all important version of your update. Or even tell us what your current firmware version and carrier are. Your update might be similar to the recent ATT /Verizon OTA adding the mixed blessing of reactivation lock. That is causing bootloops for some people with custom kermels. 4.4.3 is mostly bug fixes, with a few UI tweaks. And I believe 4.4.4 took aim at closing yet another open-SSL exploit and reverting some of the new 4.4.3 bugs.
No matter what an update intends to do, a few new bugs and unexpected conflicts usually turn up. A quick Google finds reports like this:
International Business Times said:
Issues Spotted for the Android 4.4.3 Kitkat
The Android 4.4.3 Kitkat system update is pretty much all about improving performances, strengthening stability and fixing a couple of bugs. However, it reels in a couple of issues experienced by users of Nexus devices that have already been upgraded to the latest update.
According to IT Pro, some of these issues include wi-fi problems, crashes and reboots and bugs found in apps. Google has not yet given any statement about how to deal with these issues nor has there been any word if these issues are only experienced by a handful.
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fffft said:
Your instincts are dead on. Updates may fix bugs or add a desireable feature. But just as often they introduce new bugs, break root or disable root exploits, break a few apps and add noxious DRM frameworks like the Knox qfuse warranty bit. They can seriously mess up a custom ROM and may depreciate features like MSC or car dock that may be important to you personally.
Updates cannot always be reverted. Try downgrading your Kitkat baseband to Jellybean and see what happens. Or try removing the Knox security bit after you take the update that introduced it. I disable automatic updates and wait to hear what early adopters find before upgrading.
Unfortunately you didn't tell us the all important version of your update. Or even tell us what your current firmware version and carrier are. Your update might be similar to the recent ATT /Verizon OTA adding the mixed blessing of reactivation lock. That is causing bootloops for some people with custom kermels. 4.4.3 is mostly bug fixes, with a few UI tweaks. And I believe 4.4.4 took aim at closing yet another open-SSL exploit and reverting some of the new 4.4.3 bugs.
No matter what an update intends to do, a few new bugs and unexpected conflicts usually turn up. A quick Google finds reports like this:
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Thank you very much for your detailed answers! That's exactly it! And I know from experience that updating firmware can cause a negative affect to the phone's performance. My iPhone 4S is still on iOS 5.1 but runs perfectly, while friends who updated their 4S to 7.1 experience freezes and heavy lag. Maybe companies do this deliberately, so people get frustrated and end up having to get the latest, more powerful model so the OS to run smoothly?
I do exactly the same, I always wait to see what people about an update before updating. The only difficulty with Android updates is that there seem to be so many different versions of updates. For example, when I researched the 100mb one for the S5,* various sites mentioned it, but others say the size of the update was 30mb, which were called "improved performance" I also heard about updates not always being able to be reverted to the previous version,* and also about Knox. So, you can see why I'm hesitant to update.
I know quite a bit about using Android, but have very limited knowledge regarding rooting and custom roms and so on. Also, after reading that rooting a phone incorrectly can turn it into a brick, I'm happy to just leave it as it is. I've attached a photo which shows my current firmware version, as well as other information. Also, as my S5 is unlocked, the only updates I'll receive will be from Samsung. I asked my carrier (T-Mobile UK) and that's what they told me. Only phones from bought from them include added apps that they put on, and I think they may also be able to tweak the updates received, by adding their own features.
Some more questions for you;
1. Do you recommend a factory reset after each software update?(I had to factory reset my S3 to stop the battery draining issue that 4.3 caused. But was wondering if it's best to factory reset after each and every update on Android devices)
2. I know you said that sometimes reverting back to a previous firmware isn't always possible, but can't using Odin with the correct firmware version work? Like Goldie mentioned in the above reply. And does changing the firmware via Odin require rooting the phone?
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Thank you very much for your detailed answers! That's exactly it! And I know from experience that updating firmware can cause a negative affect to the phone's performance. My iPhone 4S is still on iOS 5.1 but runs perfectly, while friends who updated their 4S to 7.1 experience freezes and heavy lag. Maybe companies do this deliberately, so people get frustrated and end up having to get the latest, more powerful model so the OS to run smoothly?
I do exactly the same, I always wait to see what people about an update before updating. The only difficulty with Android updates is that there seem to be so many different versions of updates. For example, when I researched the 100mb one for the S5,* various sites mentioned it, but others say the size of the update was 30mb, which were called "improved performance" I also heard about updates not always being able to be reverted to the previous version,* and also about Knox. So, you can see why I'm hesitant to update.
I know quite a bit about using Android, but have very limited knowledge regarding rooting and custom roms and so on. Also, after reading that rooting a phone incorrectly can turn it into a brick, I'm happy to just leave it as it is. I've attached a photo which shows my current firmware version, as well as other information. Also, as my S5 is unlocked, the only updates I'll receive will be from Samsung. I asked my carrier (T-Mobile UK) and that's what they told me. Only phones from bought from them include added apps that they put on, and I think they may also be able to tweak the updates received, by adding their own features.
Some more questions for you;
1. Do you recommend a factory reset after each software update?(I had to factory reset my S3 to stop the battery draining issue that 4.3 caused. But was wondering if it's best to factory reset after each and every update on Android devices)
2. I know you said that sometimes reverting back to a previous firmware isn't always possible, but can't using Odin with the correct firmware version work? Like Goldie mentioned in the above reply. And does changing the firmware via Odin require rooting the phone?
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1. Yes, a data factory reset after a update/flash a rom is remmended and gives best performance and stability;
2. I haven`t tried flashing a older rom itself but it should be possible i guess as this is not dowgrading like from 4.4.2 to 4.3. You could try it and if it fails there`s no harm done as you can flash your current rom back.
3. Installing a update or flash a rom usualy will kill root, though superSU Pro offers a survival mode to keep root after a update. You can also flash a rom with Mobile Odin Pro and enable everroot and the 2 other options so you will not loose root.
@MasterfulNinja
I don't automatically accept updates. Someone more impulsive, or indifferent can be the guinea pig. That approach is effective in avoiding some unpleasant firmware surprises. Often an older firmware version runs smoother and is more stable as in your IOS 5 vs 7 example. Running an older firmware means that you may have unpatched security vulnerabilities but in practice this usually isn't a great or unmanageable problem. It is a point to keep in mind though.
Rooting isn't nearly as dangerous as many people think it is. Someone who can follow directions and avoid flashing firmware from a completely different device will rarely brick a phone. And even if you did, you can usually recover from the mishap. I mention this because one of the best ways to maintain a stable phone OS is to install a decent custom ROM (which typically requires root). And then most of the heavy lifting is done by the developer who has already removed bloat, restrictions and other objectionable pieces. And monitors and releases tailored and usually stable updates for those using his ROM.
Android updates vary in size because they are screened by carriers, each deciding what update components and /or custom bits goes into their version of the update. More restrictive Apple manages all IOS updates centrally from their California servers i.e. they don't relinquish direct control to carriers. Still it isn't hard to find articles giving a good summary of what issues android firmware updates are addressing.
Some people believe that you should accept every update and as soon as it becomes available. I don't see a compelling need to update unless you are trying to resolve a current bug or are enticed by a specific new feature. I don't recommend a factory reset after each update. I do recommend that you clear the system cache from recovery mode though. A factory reset usually won't benefit you but it is time consuming to reinstall and reconfigure your phone.
Having said that, if you have a specific issue, such as the 4.3 battery drain then you have a rationale for doing so. But I have to say that I experienced the same S3 issue and clearing the cache was sufficient to stabilize the phone for me. Some phones will develop corruption or configuration conflicts over time, especially if you install a lot of apps. Or if you have a specific app that makes a mess of your file system. With that in mind, I do do a factory reset about once a year to clean up the phone, the same as I would do for a laptop OS. But I don't see a reason to do it after every update.
Odin is a Samsung product, complete with DRM. So no, you cannot flash anything with Odin. You can flash most stock firmware and in particular Odin will look for OEM signatures if you try to change the bootloader or modem. In the case of downgrading, it is the Knox qfuse on your phone that will cause the Odin flash to fail. If you try to downgrade you end up with a partial flash which can soft brick your phone and trip the Knox flag.
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I'm looking to buy a note 4 now that custom roms and perm root has been achieved. I already know to make sure the android version is no more then 5.1.1, but one thing was throwing me off in reading up on this.
Some guides mention to "make sure the CID starts with 15". Others don't. I may be entirely wrong here, because I don't know what CID stands for, or what it is, but I'm getting the impression that CID 15 is a software number for the developers model of the phone. I've also read it's possible to convert the note 4 into thinking it is a developers model of the phone. So that would mean I don't need to worry about buying a model that's already CID 15, because it will be taken care of later. Is this correct?
My questions are....
How do I prevent my phone from starting up, and immediately downloading 6.0 or 6.1 or whatever the latest update is, before I root? How do I block those updates without root?
Whats the best newb friendly guide on this forum for going from day 1 bought, to custom roms and perm root? Basically an "everything at once" guide. Assuming I don't even have the phone yet, don't have temp root, haven't changed the CID yet, ect ect ect. I want to start reading these guides so I can get myself familiar with the process.
I read either here or on reddit that kingroot puts spyware on the phone. Is this true?
Anyone know a good place to buy the note 4? I'd be looking for the verizon version.
Anything I should know that I don't even know to ask about? My last (current) phone is on it's dieing legs. It's an HTC thunderbolt from 2011. I was running android 2.2. Yes, I know. It's old. I haven't experienced a post 2.2 android OS, so this is going to be basically 5 years worth of "HOLY **** LOOK WHAT THEY ADDED!!!" moment for me.
What are the differences between different model numbers. I keep seeing (SM-N910V) in the videos I've been watching, but I have no context as to if that's good, or bad, or what it means.
Will this fast charging thing work with ROMS?
I recently decided to completely start fresh with my rooted Note 4 (I have a N910H - Exynos). I factory reset, wiped, then downloaded the latest firmware from Sammobile. I thought I just go completely stock.
After flashing through ODIN I was on MM 6.0.1, stock.
Then I wanted to root. It was easy, so I don't think to have to worry about updates or anything, it is easy to root, whatever version (AFAIK for the Exynos versions)
Hi, I've successfully rooted my phone!
Is there an easy, quick or thorough way to debloat our phones running Nougat?
psouza4 had this thread with directions on how to do that, but I think it was for 6.0.1 because it's not working on my phone
My phone is the Samsung SM-G930V with the baseband version G930VVRU4BQA4 and build number NRD90M.G930VVRU4BQA4 if that helps anyone.
Anything anyone can do to point me in the right direction or any tips you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi, I've successfully rooted my phone!
Is there an easy, quick or thorough way to debloat our phones running Nougat?
psouza4 had this thread with directions on how to do that, but I think it was for 6.0.1 because it's not working on my phone
My phone is the Samsung SM-G930V with the baseband version G930VVRU4BQA4 and build number NRD90M.G930VVRU4BQA4 if that helps anyone.
Anything anyone can do to point me in the right direction or any tips you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
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If you are rooted u can use titaniim backup app from play store to remove or freez them.
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If you are rooted u can use titaniim backup app from play store to remove or freez them.
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I was thinking something similar to this or this but for 7.0, not 6.0.1.
I'm not clever enough to really know what can and can't be removed safely. I usually just spend weeks removing stuff to try and strip down to an absolutely minimum stock phone and end up just breaking the operating system and having to start over.
However, in the two links hyperlinked above, two guys both immensely smarter than me were able to strip the phones of all the bloatware and then some while remaining on stock roms and having a very functional phone.
I was hoping to find something like that.
For now I'm just downgrading to a rom that came out before Sep 15, 2016 and then following the steps in this thread to get a functional rooted phone that is tweaked to run okay, then I'm using the steps in this thread to strip the phone down to almost nothing but still keeping it functional.
I would rather have total control of the applications and software on my phone and use a dated operating (6.0.1) system versus using the most up to date operating system (7.0) and not having as much control or understanding of what's on my phone.
I would love to upgrade to 7.0 though if anyone knows an extensive and reliable way to extremely debloat the Verizon Samsung S7 SM-G930V with a locked bootloader?
I've lurked and googled every variation of any combination of words to try and find the right place to learn how to do this but fell back on the two threads I hyperlinked above, twice. I can't find anything that works for me for 7.0
If anyone wants to emulate what I did to get a similar result, I used the firmware version G930UUEU4API3 for the device Samsung Galaxy S7, model SM-G930U for my SM-G930V (apparently the G930U version doesn't come with Verizon bloat? just standard bloat?) because that version was released 9/09/16 and the thread for the extreme debloat was last updated 9/15/16, probably to account for that release. After that nothing has been updated.
omgitsMATT said:
I was thinking something similar to this or this but for 7.0, not 6.0.1.
I'm not clever enough to really know what can and can't be removed safely. I usually just spend weeks removing stuff to try and strip down to an absolutely minimum stock phone and end up just breaking the operating system and having to start over.
However, in the two links hyperlinked above, two guys both immensely smarter than me were able to strip the phones of all the bloatware and then some while remaining on stock roms and having a very functional phone.
I was hoping to find something like that.
For now I'm just downgrading to a rom that came out before Sep 15, 2016 and then following the steps in this thread to get a functional rooted phone that is tweaked to run okay, then I'm using the steps in this thread to strip the phone down to almost nothing but still keeping it functional.
I would rather have total control of the applications and software on my phone and use a dated operating (6.0.1) system versus using the most up to date operating system (7.0) and not having as much control or understanding of what's on my phone.
I would love to upgrade to 7.0 though if anyone knows an extensive and reliable way to extremely debloat the Verizon Samsung S7 SM-G930V with a locked bootloader?
I've lurked and googled every variation of any combination of words to try and find the right place to learn how to do this but fell back on the two threads I hyperlinked above, twice. I can't find anything that works for me for 7.0
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Update 7.0 root it and try this rom. You need to create a account to access the form.
http://stang5litre-roms.proboards.com/
Osama Chishty said:
Update 7.0 root it and try this rom. You need to create a account to access the form.
http://stang5litre-roms.proboards.com/
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Thanks. I was using the 6.0.1 rom for awhile but ended up doing other things.
I have been using this 7.0 one now since you posted on the 4th and it's nice.
If you find anything else do share, thanks so much for your help!
Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 SM-G930V is mine as well running oreo 8.0 how to root/unlock bootloader?
cheers much appreciated
omgitsMATT said:
Hi, I've successfully rooted my phone!
Is there an easy, quick or thorough way to debloat our phones running Nougat?
psouza4 had this thread with directions on how to do that, but I think it was for 6.0.1 because it's not working on my phone
My phone is the Samsung SM-G930V with the baseband version G930VVRU4BQA4 and build number NRD90M.G930VVRU4BQA4 if that helps anyone.
Anything anyone can do to point me in the right direction or any tips you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello....!
I am sorry for my bad English skills
I am using Samsung Note 4 Sprint Android 6.0.1.
It's very bad and doesn't have a fingerprint. I need to go back to an earlier version.
I've used "Odin" and "Z3X SamsungTool, COMBINATION". All failed.
I downloaded Firmware at website sammobile.com.
Please Help me...!
If you were on the n910PVP5DQ15 firmware then the sboot is fused5, binary 4 and can not be downgraded. That is most likely the reason you have a fail in Odin. The following links will provide further information and guidance. If you have questions ask then in this post, good luck
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/help/n910pvpu5dqi5-firmware-download-t3941451
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/help/roms-installed-qi15-firmware-t3990677
Mr. JAVI said:
If you were on the n910PVP5DQ15 firmware then the sboot is fused5, binary 4 and can not be downgraded. That is most likely the reason you have a fail in Odin. The following links will provide further information and guidance. If you have questions ask then in this post, good luck
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/help/n910pvpu5dqi5-firmware-download-t3941451
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/help/roms-installed-qi15-firmware-t3990677
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Thank you verry much ..!!
Your welcome
Mr. JAVI said:
Your welcome
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My phone is very cheap...!
I'm not afraid to ruin it
It will help me understand more. :laugh:
Bán Trinh Trả Góp said:
My phone is very cheap...!
I'm not afraid to ruin it
It will help me understand more. :laugh:
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Well I hope you don't ruin it. lol The Note 4 is concerned by many as "the last develop friendly phone". The Last Spirit update (5DQ15) has made it not so friendly. Prior to loosing my phone, I was on Lollipop
4COK1 with the ultimate Note 5 hybrid (MORA) rom as my daily driver. I could flash back and forth form lollipop to Marshmallow and choose many different custom roms. However, I seldom used MM because I didnt like the layout of the OS. Hated the mock location that force an app and Google maps in Samsung settings (BIG TIME, Yea how moke is it if it connected to Google maps?). While on lollipop just set mock location and done. Furthermore, the permission settings in MM are scattered in different sections that not only adds completely in navigation but confusion as to what the F is this? All the while stating udate for you security. My security or there's? Well, no use crying over spilled milk as they say.
Being locked to 5DQ15 firmware was a new experience. Now years later, I found myself unfamiliar with the Note 4 5DQ15. The first thing I noticed was n910p xda forum was "where did everybody go" ? Next thing I noticed is all the bricked devices and fails in Odin when downgrading the 5DQ15. Thats when I decided the safest choice to begin with was the
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no.../rom-15nov2017-stock-ish-plustidbits-t3705395
Being with installing TWRP followed by rebooting the phone. Then I rebooted back to TWRP and made a backup of all the partitions to external sd. Afterwards, I flash the custom rom. I was very pleased it had completely with xposed firmware and models. Although its really a great rom, I still missed my old customizations in 5.0 roms.
Reading threw the forums at that time provided very little to go by and the information posted by members seemed to conflict. Some said you you can on 6.0 rom and others saying the opposite. All the while lioking to purchase another n910p with a lower bootloader which lead me to visual prof of custom roms on 6.0 are compatible (maybe). I still needed to flash to be 100% sure. (screen shots in next post).
I also felt like you "Its an inexpensive device and Im going to take a risk".
Mr. JAVI said:
Well I hope you don't ruin it. lol The Note 4 is concerned by many as "the last develop friendly phone". The Last Spirit update (5DQ15) has made it not so friendly. Prior to loosing my phone, I was on Lollipop
4COK1 with the ultimate Note 5 hybrid (MORA) rom as my daily driver. I could flash back and forth form lollipop to Marshmallow and choose many different custom roms. However, I seldom used MM because I didnt like the layout of the OS. Hated the mock location that force an app and Google maps in Samsung settings (BIG TIME, Yea how moke is it if it connected to Google maps?). While on lollipop just set mock location and done. Furthermore, the permission settings in MM are scattered in different sections that not only adds completely in navigation but confusion as to what the F is this? All the while stating udate for you security. My security or there's? Well, no use crying over spilled milk as they say.
Being locked to 5DQ15 firmware was a new experience. Now years later, I found myself unfamiliar with the Note 4 5DQ15. The first thing I noticed was n910p xda forum was "where did everybody go" ? Next thing I noticed is all the bricked devices and fails in Odin when downgrading the 5DQ15. Thats when I decided the safest choice to begin with was the
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no.../rom-15nov2017-stock-ish-plustidbits-t3705395
Being with installing TWRP followed by rebooting the phone. Then I rebooted back to TWRP and made a backup of all the partitions to external sd. Afterwards, I flash the custom rom. I was very pleased it had completely with xposed firmware and models. Although its really a great rom, I still missed my old customizations in 5.0 roms.
Reading threw the forums at that time provided very little to go by and the information posted by members seemed to conflict. Some said you you can on 6.0 rom and others saying the opposite. All the while lioking to purchase another n910p with a lower bootloader which lead me to visual prof of custom roms on 6.0 are compatible (maybe). I still needed to flash to be 100% sure. (screen shots in next post).
I also felt like you "Its an inexpensive device and Im going to take a risk".
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I think people can easily buy the latest phones today.
The warranty company assumes all responsibility.
It is difficult to find someone with hobby of editing phone software.
Now just to be perfectly clean, I am in no way suggesting that anyone purchase a pre rooted device. Never
WARNING
To all , You never know what has been installed hidden within the system when purchasing a pre-rooted phone.
If thats not enough, consider the developer of the rom that has put in all the work, cheated out of there donations.
Mr. JAVI said:
Well I hope you don't ruin it. lol The Note 4 is concerned by many as "the last develop friendly phone". The Last Spirit update (5DQ15) has made it not so friendly. Prior to loosing my phone, I was on Lollipop
4COK1 with the ultimate Note 5 hybrid (MORA) rom as my daily driver. I could flash back and forth form lollipop to Marshmallow and choose many different custom roms. However, I seldom used MM because I didnt like the layout of the OS. Hated the mock location that force an app and Google maps in Samsung settings (BIG TIME, Yea how moke is it if it connected to Google maps?). While on lollipop just set mock location and done. Furthermore, the permission settings in MM are scattered in different sections that not only adds completely in navigation but confusion as to what the F is this? All the while stating udate for you security. My security or there's? Well, no use crying over spilled milk as they say.
Being locked to 5DQ15 firmware was a new experience. Now years later, I found myself unfamiliar with the Note 4 5DQ15. The first thing I noticed was n910p xda forum was "where did everybody go" ? Next thing I noticed is all the bricked devices and fails in Odin when downgrading the 5DQ15. Thats when I decided the safest choice to begin with was the
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no.../rom-15nov2017-stock-ish-plustidbits-t3705395
Being with installing TWRP followed by rebooting the phone. Then I rebooted back to TWRP and made a backup of all the partitions to external sd. Afterwards, I flash the custom rom. I was very pleased it had completely with xposed firmware and models. Although its really a great rom, I still missed my old customizations in 5.0 roms.
Reading threw the forums at that time provided very little to go by and the information posted by members seemed to conflict. Some said you you can on 6.0 rom and others saying the opposite. All the while lioking to purchase another n910p with a lower bootloader which lead me to visual prof of custom roms on 6.0 are compatible (maybe). I still needed to flash to be 100% sure. (screen shots in next post).
I also felt like you "Its an inexpensive device and Im going to take a risk".
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Sorry for the language differences,
I can not understand everything you write :crying::crying:
Bán Trinh Trả Góp said:
I think people can easily buy the latest phones today.
The warranty company assumes all responsibility.
It is difficult to find someone with hobby of editing phone software.
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The warranty company assumes responsible with new devices, of course rooting will void the warranty.
Not that difficult to find someone with the skills to edit Android devices. I'll simply say XDA
You are using Z3E tool and Odin are you not? Well then why not buy a newer phone?
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Its just a hobby of mine, I enjoy moding and flashing. Im not a programer. I simply wish to give back to the XDA community.
I could buy a new phone but the newer models of have locked bootloaders. (us versions).
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Bán Trinh Trả Góp said:
Sorry for the language differences,
I can not understand everything you write :crying::crying:
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It not your fault, I know my writing skills need important. Im spelling is horrible.
I thank you as in your first question in this post has help me too. First time I heard of Z3E tool. Thank you