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Hi Friends,
This Thread is about the Dual sim version of MotoG( A budget friendly Phone with premium specs launched by Motorola). Apparently its not been released yet. I sense its soon going to be!
I know there are Guys ( l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ .. like Us) out there who want to support the Development section ( Custom ROM development , Kernel development etc.)
The Developers need to witness your support so that they decide to develop for MotoG Dual-Sim Edition.
So Join us (Replying/Thanks) below in this Thread and show interest so that we have everything ready by the time MotoG gets released!!
Remember,
More Support -> More Developers show Interest -> More Mods, Tweaks and Customisation follows.
Regards,
Shikhar
I'll definitely hope there'll be a dual sim development since I suspect that south east Asian version will came with dual sim.
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+1 for this post bro.
Im with you.Im ready for Rom testing.
I love to support developers .
Hope there will be more developers for Us.
Will single sim ROMs work on the dual sim phone? Even if with just one sim. I just need one but the dual sim version is cheaper here.
Already released here in Brazil (8 gb single sim, 16/8 gb dual sim). Hope there will be development for de dual sim version.
pedrohlr said:
Will single sim ROMs work on the dual sim phone? Even if with just one sim. I just need one but the dual sim version is cheaper here.
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I am rather surprised to know that a Dual sim version costs less than the single sim phone.
coming to your Q. single sim Roms may work on a dual sim phone. but its neither advisable nor required as the Dual sim variant will get its own RoM s.
BTW from where do you belong?
shikhar623 said:
I am rather surprised to know that a Dual sim version costs less than the single sim phone.
coming to your Q. single sim Roms may work on a dual sim phone. but its neither advisable nor required as the Dual sim variant will get its own RoM s.
BTW from where do you belong?
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I am from Brazil. Actually, from Motorola's store the single sim is cheaper, but it isn't sold outside Motorola's website. As other stores charge less for the phone, and they don't sell the single sim, the dual chip is cheaper than the single one from Motorola.
I would also like to know whether a Custom Rom can be developed for the Dual SIM version. I would like to buy it because of the 16gb internal memory, and I don't care about a second SIM - if a custom rom works as a single chip mode in this device, I would be very happy!
Anyone have any idea whether this is possible?
I'm from Brasil mine 16GB Dual Sim arrived yesterday... I'm loving it =)
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I'm from Brasil mine 16GB Dual Sim arrived yesterday... I'm loving it = (2)
I would also like to know whether a Custom Rom can be developed for the Dual SIM version. I bought because of the 16gb internal memory, and I don't care about a second SIM - if a custom rom works as a single chip mode in this device, I would be very happy! (2)
Daniel
+1
everyone wants more developers to the Moto G hehe
+1
Any chance to get the Brazilian 16G dual SIM version shipped to Europe?
nupi said:
Any chance to get the Brazilian 16G dual SIM version shipped to Europe?
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Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543189
lcdiniz said:
Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543189
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At that price, I will stick with a single SIM one
So the dual-sim edition has only started shipping in late November but only in Brazil so far?
Any quick reviews yet? I think people are especially interested in learning how the differentiating dual-sim function has been implemented. E.g. can both sims operate data and voice simultaneously and how are the two connections managed (interface)?
I have a coworker in Brazil, and i asked him to buy me a moto g. If he cant i probably will ask to felipeap to bring one to Spain
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i hope there will be custom on dual sim version as much as single sim version because in my country doesn't sell single sim version
DeLonge, Where are you from?
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It may take a lil longer as only specific countries are being targetted by Motorola. Which means only a few developers actually getting their hands on this deivce.
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Snapdragon 801 has support for dual sim dual active connection
If Samsung will bring us a version with dual sim and ip67 my money will go to Sammy!!!
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It might exist but only on China or India markets. The rest of the world doesn't care to have two sims.
GenoAce said:
I haven't seen any S% which is dual sim yet.
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But Htc one dual sim exist. There is a big possibility that Samsung will follow the trend...(just rember that Samsung has S4 active experience so S5 is waterproof, and there is S4mini dual sim.
I don't live in so called mature market (us,UK,de,etc) but I live in European Union contry and I have a problem: I need to carry 2 phones all the time becaouse I have a phone from my employer and one personal. My employer does not give me internet acces. In that situation all my problems will be gone with a flagship dual sim...
P.S. I owned all the flagships from Samsung original S to S4, all the note series, xperia Z1 and xperia Z ultra and Galaxy gear. ATM I use S4mini dual for work+second sim for Internet and Z Ultra for everything else.
P.P.S. If Samsung will go out with S5 dual sim I will be the first to preorder.
Since Dual SIM is mostly popular in not rich countries that use prepaid those phones are usually low cost and therefore have low specifications that is why flagship phones like S5 will not have Dual SIM. Do you need full Dual SIM or you just want to swith between them. I am using dual SIM adapter.
I will not be a fan of S5 dual SIM. The S5 is perfect as it is. And having dual SIM will just lower its specs.
I disagree with your opinion. Tje chinese version of S5 dual sim is exactly like the international version. Too bad they don't release a international version...
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Yeah! I saw it, it's only available in china Telecom
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dual-SIM-Samsung-Galaxy-S5-Goes-Official-in-China-436041.shtml
I'm also waiting for this phone to come out. I'm currently using HTC one dual sim. No complain about it except the camera. Hope Samsung S5 camera is better.
The specs are the same as the none dual sim. One thing we're not sure is the built in memory, it does not say on gsmarena.
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Adapter?
anubius said:
Since Dual SIM is mostly popular in not rich countries that use prepaid those phones are usually low cost and therefore have low specifications that is why flagship phones like S5 will not have Dual SIM. Do you need full Dual SIM or you just want to swith between them. I am using dual SIM adapter.
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Hello,
You mentioned a DS adapter. I take it that means you needs at least one SIM card spot available or is there an alternative. Such as a schematic for a HW setup that interfaces to the device without a slot available. I'm American with opportunities to work and live in Brazil. Sprint 's CDMA is ok for the US, but my SGSIII was not able to write GSM PRLs ( and function) and my phone was worthless there.
I was hoping that some commonality between HW revisions (every single business model supports this concept, why not here??) where Samsung could atleast use the same PCB footprints and populate components as needed for regional readiness.
Any ideas for my situation are welcomed... Or, should I say a univrsal situations.
In most countries the 9009 is useless as the 2nd sim is for CDMA only, we'll have to wait and see if china will release a 9002 version with both sim socket to support GSM and 3G.
The S3 (i9302), S4 (i9502), Note 2 (N7102) and Note 3 (N9002) all have the dual sim version, so I expect the S5 to have it soon.
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kms108 said:
In most countries the 9009 is useless as the 2nd sim is for CDMA only, we'll have to wait and see if china will release a 9002 version with both sim socket to support GSM and 3G.
The S3 (i9302), S4 (i9502), Note 2 (N7102) and Note 3 (N9002) all have the dual sim version, so I expect the S5 to have it soon.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems most/all varients will have GSMx on 1 and CDMAx (in my case) as 2 on standy by. I see SIM as the easiest way to switch between, but if carriers such as Oi (Brasil) has PRLs that can be first unhidden and then wrote as the radio it would solve some issues. I just believe SIM technology is simlplier and less work involved (to obtain the PRLs).
Since we can put our phones on other carriers Sprint to Verision for example, that should apply on supported GSM network also? I was just stuck on my Sprint SGSIII having no ability to deviate from the BS CDMA networks...
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titawgo said:
I'm also waiting for this phone to come out. I'm currently using HTC one dual sim. No complain about it except the camera. Hope Samsung S5 camera is better.
The specs are the same as the none dual sim. One thing we're not sure is the built in memory, it does not say on gsmarena.
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Sure the camera HW is better with stills and video (boo on the 1X zoom though). SW optimization (including Build Prop changes )and better applications will drive overall pix quality and reference. The question will be how much, my SGSIII is far better for both than any iPiece around, IMO......
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems most/all varients will have GSMx on 1 and CDMAx (in my case) as 2 on standy by. I see SIM as the easiest way to switch between, but if carriers such as Oi (Brasil) has PRLs that can be first unhidden and then wrote as the radio it would solve some issues. I just believe SIM technology is simlplier and less work involved (to obtain the PRLs).
Since we can put our phones on other carriers Sprint to Verision for example, that should apply on supported GSM network also? I was just stuck on my Sprint SGSIII having no ability to deviate from the BS CDMA networks...
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Sure the camera HW is better with stills and video (boo on the 1X zoom though). SW optimization (including Build Prop changes )and better applications will drive overall pix quality and reference. The question will be how much, my SGSIII is far better for both than any iPiece around, IMO......
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From my understanding
model number ending with 2
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA
sim 2 GSM
model number ending with 9
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA (roaming only)/CDMA
sim 2 GSM
Sprint Specific #'s or all Variants
kms108 said:
From my understanding
model number ending with 2
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA
sim 2 GSM
model number ending with 9
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA (roaming only)/CDMA
sim 2 GSM[/QUOTE
And the rest have no SIM access? Such as the SM-G900P (suspected Sprint ) variant not having SIM access correct?
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kms108 said:
From my understanding
model number ending with 2
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA
sim 2 GSM
model number ending with 9
sim 1 GSM/WCDMA (roaming only)/CDMA
sim 2 GSM[/QUOTE
And the rest have no SIM access? Such as the SM-G900P (suspected Sprint ) variant not having SIM acess correct?
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if you want one to access the sprint network, I think you will have to get the phone from sprint, if they have one, the G9009 only support cdma 800 from the chinese provider, I think it's locked to the network.
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Sprint + GSM
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Fly-n-High said:
if you want one to access the sprint network, I think you will have to get the phone from sprint, if they have one, the G9009 only support cdma 800 from the chinese provider, I think it's locked to the network.
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Essentially I see that I’m forced under that scenario (which is fine), but just interested in knowing if it will internally support GSM on its secondary antenna and how versatile (will it support in PRL (or equal) development on most or all GSM supported networks, specifically Brazil and Italy) it will be. Also the difficulty to change between 1 &2, if there is any. Thanks
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Essentially I see that I’m forced under that scenario (which is fine), but just interested in knowing if it will internally support GSM on its secondary antenna and how versatile (will it support in PRL (or equal) development on most or all GSM supported networks, specifically Brazil and Italy) it will be. Also the difficulty to change between 1 &2, if there is any. Thanks
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These are the actual bands for the g9009 on the china telecom network.
sim 1
CDMA 800MHz
WCDMA 850/1900/2100MHz will only pickup signal whiles roaming
GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
sim 2
GSM 900/1800/1900MHz
if you have used dual sim phones before, you will have no problem with this, when receiving call, it will indicate which sim with the icon 1 or 2.
when making a call through the dialing pad, there is a icon sim 1 or sim 2 to send.
when making a call through the phone book, as soon as you press the telephone number, there is a pop up to select which sim you want to make the call from.
There are other alternative with the slide down menu or through a widget.
all these are from my i9192, but should be the same.
hopefully they will bring out a g9002 version and not have gsm only for sim 2, but if this is for china market it seems to be the case, at present it seems like the i9192 (S4 mini dual sim) is the only samsung phone that support WCDMA and GSM in both sim 1 and 2 if i'm guessing correctly.
Here is that phone we dream of:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5_dualsim_version_hits_china-news-8222.php
However this phone will not see the light of the day in other countries besides China. Sad. I actually have some strong arguments against S5 due to dual sim adapter which I like to use. Probably using this adapter might affect the water resistance capabiluty. Since everything is so tightly packed under the cover when adding dual sim adapter there is a risk of leaking the water in since it might cause the cover not to close very tight. This is what I currently have in S4. So it is water resistance or ability to switch between sim cards. Choice is yours.
Questions about s5 dual SIM
Hi folks I have many questions....
Where as possible buy the S5 dual SIM?
The model is G9009D?
What the frequency for 4G/LTE? Here in Brazil the frequency is 2600.
Can I use both SIM card for GSM?
Has Google Play?
Has english language?
emersonvier said:
Hi folks I have many questions....
Where as possible buy the S5 dual SIM?
The model is G9009D?
What the frequency for 4G/LTE? Here in Brazil the frequency is 2600.
Can I use both SIM card for GSM?
Has Google Play?
Has english language?
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read through the thread, the info has been posted.
hi,
lets talk about the "D" (G9009D) I think its means Dual-Sim no more "2"(G9002) and it will be conflict with N9002 note 3 if thy use "2"
from my understanding this phone will work in china as CDMA 800MHz(using china telecom sim) and will work as WCDMA 850/1900/2100 MHz out side china if using any els provider sim.
please correct me if i am wrong,and if some can confirm
Dear knowledge Gods,
Having decided on the Moto X Play, I have come to a dilemma revolving around the version. Here it is:
I don't have two phone lines and live in Brazil where only the dual Sim version is being sold. However, in a month from now, I am to take a trip to France/England, where the single Sim version is available (and is LTE compatible with Brazil's frequencies). After exchange rate's conversion and plan discount, it is still cheaper (about 25%) to buy the dual Sim version in Brazil, but I still don't know if it's worth it.
My question is: Knowing that there are known disadvantages to dual Sim phones (network issues, lesser life span, etc), is still worth it to get the dual Sim version in Brazil and ignore the extra slot?
Thank you in advance.
Anthorg said:
Dear knowledge Gods,
Having decided on the Moto X Play, I have come to a dilemma revolving around the version. Here it is:
I don't have two phone lines and live in Brazil where only the dual Sim version is being sold. However, in a month from now, I am to take a trip to France/England, where the single Sim version is available (and is LTE compatible with Brazil's frequencies). After exchange rate's conversion and plan discount, it is still cheaper (about 25%) to buy the dual Sim version in Brazil, but I still don't know if it's worth it.
My question is: Knowing that there are known disadvantages to dual Sim phones (network issues, lesser life span, etc), is still worth it to get the dual Sim version in Brazil and ignore the extra slot?
Thank you in advance.
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The dual and single sim are identical hardware wise. You could even flash single sim firmware onto your dual sim phone and convert it.
I have the Dual Sim version, and live in the UK. It works really well, has full 4g coverage here and in Ireland and the battery life shames the Asus Zenfone 2 and OnePlus 2 (both of which I had, and very happy now to stick with Play). Being able to get 6 hours of screen time in a day and still have battery left is so important given how much I travel and am not always near a charger. Its a no-brainer of a purchase for me.
Is there any difference in the phone you get if you order from either source? Someone said the Huawei store ones may have dual Sim capabilities
There are 2 versions of the 6P. One for the US and one for the rest of the world. The only difference is the radios. Neither has dial sim. The sim tray looks like it could do dual sim but it does not.
I've read that the phone will come in two versions, one without the second SIM card slot (but still the uSD). Is there a way to know which version will ship in Europe? You can see the versions number on the official website: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/mobile-phones/huaweip10plus-en-sup.htm
VKY-L09 is single SIM
VKY-L29 is dual SIM
I don't get why they would remove this functionality for some parts of the world.
A lot of companies are backwards having this hybrid slot, giving you the choice of one (dual SIM) or the other (single SIM + expandable storage), although they are stuck in the 2013 bubble...some companies have actually moved on from there, but I'm surprised why this has not developed with major phone manufacturers.
RoOSTA
There is also the VKY-al00
VKY-AL00
Main SIM card:; LTE FDD: Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/12/17/18/19/20; TD-LTE: Bands 38/39/40/41 (100M); UMTS (WCDMA) / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/6/8/19; TD-SCDMA: Bands 34/39; CDMA: BC0 (800 MHz), Only for China Telecom (China Mainland + Macao, China); GSM / EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; ;
Secondary SIM card:; UMTS (WCDMA): Bands 1/2/4/5/6/8/19; CDMA: BC0 (800 MHz), Only for China Telecom (China Mainland + Macao, China); GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; ;
Notes: The two SIM card slots can be Main card or secondary card.; ;
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/compare/index.htm?pro1=P10-PLUS-ENVKY-AL00;
Aarseth said:
I've read that the phone will come in two versions, one without the second SIM card slot (but still the uSD). Is there a way to know which version will ship in Europe?
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I received my pre-order yesterday, it's the VKY-L09 single SIM variant in the Netherlands, so I suppose the same is true for the rest of Europe.
I was speaking with a Huawei 'expert' at Carphone Warehouse yesterday, and asked about the dual/single situation in the UK. He said he has been told by an insider that a ROM flash wil be made available to enable the dual sim mode in single sim phones. He said the actual board and connector inside the phone are already in place, it's just the ROM that disables it and the sim tray that are different. He said his source said the ROM will be available in a month or two and the SIM trays will start popping up on eBay.....
Sounds like either the biggest marketing play ever to sell phones and hope no one really cares it doesn't happen, or Huawei realise the issue, and despite the UK networks not wanting it when they provde the phone to us, Huawei realise the potential of offereing a dual SIM option. I have to say he did not give me the hard sell at all, he said they only have a black phone in stock (and only one) and if I wanted white/gold (which I do) to wait a few days and try again. He had a P10 of his own, and was gushing about the P10 Plus like a schoolboy geek!
So there is hope yet!
Just been speaking to a senior manager at Huawei UK who picked up on this when I asked their Twitter account when the update would be available...
IT IS NOT TRUE the actual hardware is different with the single SIM version only having a single aerial so there's no way it can be flashed to make it duel SIM
WHy h why do sales people feel the need to say things that are not true!
Anyway my (probably single SIM) P10 Plus should be arriving today .....
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I was speaking with a Huawei 'expert' at Carphone Warehouse yesterday, and asked about the dual/single situation in the UK. He said he has been told by an insider that a ROM flash wil be made available to enable the dual sim mode in single sim phones. He said the actual board and connector inside the phone are already in place, it's just the ROM that disables it and the sim tray that are different. He said his source said the ROM will be available in a month or two and the SIM trays will start popping up on eBay.....
Sounds like either the biggest marketing play ever to sell phones and hope no one really cares it doesn't happen, or Huawei realise the issue, and despite the UK networks not wanting it when they provde the phone to us, Huawei realise the potential of offereing a dual SIM option. I have to say he did not give me the hard sell at all, he said they only have a black phone in stock (and only one) and if I wanted white/gold (which I do) to wait a few days and try again. He had a P10 of his own, and was gushing about the P10 Plus like a schoolboy geek!
So there is hope yet!
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Hi this is the reason I came here, the SIM tray for my VKY-L09 capable to put two SIM card, just the software not support. So maybe if Flash the dual SIM ROM can use as VKY-L29.
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Hi this is the reason I came here, the SIM tray for my VKY-L09 capable to put two SIM card, just the software not support. So maybe if Flash the dual SIM ROM can use as VKY-L29.
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Read my second post - it is NOT possible aparently!
adamelphick said:
Read my second post - it is NOT possible aparently!
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sry
im so sad reading that.
Phecabooth said:
sry
im so sad reading that.
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Me too! I don't know why some countries get Dual and some Single - so silly!
Phecabooth said:
Hi this is the reason I came here, the SIM tray for my VKY-L09 capable to put two SIM card, just the software not support. So maybe if Flash the dual SIM ROM can use as VKY-L29.
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I have dual SIM software on a single SIM phone, let me know how I'd put 2 SIM cards in and I'll try it.
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I have dual SIM software on a single SIM phone, let me know how I'd put 2 SIM cards in and I'll try it.
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My SIM tray is capable to accept two SIM card with no user modification, that is why I though is only the software is different, but I already got answer here as the two model has two different hardware capabilites.
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My SIM tray is capable to accept two SIM card with no user modification, that is why I though is only the software is different, but I already got answer here as the two model has two different hardware capabilites.
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What I'm saying is people at any company will tell you anything to stop tampering with it both software and hardware. I have a dual SIM firmware on my l09 edition. If i can get a dual SIM tray or nodded tray I'll give it a go. Until both phones have been disassembled and had a look then all we can do is hope and try
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Just been speaking to a senior manager at Huawei UK who picked up on this when I asked their Twitter account when the update would be available...
IT IS NOT TRUE the actual hardware is different with the single SIM version only having a single aerial so there's no way it can be flashed to make it duel SIM
WHy h why do sales people feel the need to say things that are not true!
Anyway my (probably single SIM) P10 Plus should be arriving today .....
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its possible, Chimeratool .com does that, once you have the hardware hint in form of the second sim slot on most Huawei. Its the first hint possible conversion.
thanks
essojay said:
its possible, Chimeratool .com does that, once you have the hardware hint in form of the second sim slot on most Huawei. Its the first hint possible conversion.
thanks
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So that means Huawei lied to me? I guess possible..... not wanting single SIM to be easily changed to dual SIM.
So ALL we need is the SIM tray? The hardware definitely inside?
Wonder which country have the L29. UK only L09, I am thinking dual sim L29 as it will come in handy to have 2 sim if needed.
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thermalboyz said:
Wonder which country have the L29. UK only L09, I am thinking dual sim L29 as it will come in handy to have 2 sim if needed.
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Malaysia
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Hi all,
I've get my P10 Plus in UK couple of days ago. I was really disappointed that model doesn't support dual sim. Huawei Support also told me that my phone is single SIM only plus SD Card. But when I took a torch and flash inside SIM card slot I can easily see second set of sim card pins right upon empty space in tray. So I think it's highly possible to change ROM only and get Dual Sim Version. We need to wait couple weeks to release files for both devices and than check that
If you rebrand to a dual sim model, you can use both sims. Many people reported success already. Google for rebrand huawei p10 plus -- most success has been reported if you rebrand to VKY-L29C636 version.
Confirmed, i rebranded and flashed the VKY-L29C636 on my single sim and it worked, the only thing that i lost is the theme function. Somebody say how can i fix it?