[Q] Adhoc casting - Nexus Player Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

ok so I've done searching, googling, youtubing.. I couldn't decide which place to really ask this question. Here or in the Chromecast section - I leaned here because the hardware is better.
Is there anyway to cast things from a laptop, phone, or tablet without having to have them both connected to the same wifi connection? I'm trying to get things to wirelessly goto my projector easily but wifi isn't always an option for me. If there is another type of device out that will do this as good as Chromecast/NP I'm open to ideas and suggestions. I'd be using miracast capable computers, iphones and android devices.
Thank you

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[Q] GPS from phone

Looked around for the last 15 minutes and couldn't find anything on it.
This would be the perfect car interface device that I have been looking for. That being said:
It doesn't support ad-hoc wifi connections so USB tethering will already be used for internet purposes inside the car.
I know there is an app for bluetooth GPS sharing but never heard of anything for USB. Since it does not appear to have bluetooth; how can we share the GPS from our phone to this device?
Any ideas?
I don't think there is such an app, and I think this usage scenario is outside what Amazon intends for this device. You'll probably be able to do it via WiFi when CyanogenMod gets released though.
EDIT: This app shows how difficult it is to do what you said via a Windows laptop, so your scenario us highly unlikely to ever be supported. You'd have to wait for a CyanogenMod port for the Kindle Fire and use TetherGPS.
No Bluetooth
I've read several articles that the Kindle Fire does not have bluetooth on board. But that is what they said about the Nook Color before somebody found it on board but deactivated and then proceeded to activate it.
With GPSD , it should be possible
Tether GPS I have used with my non bluetooth tablets
this can be done but you really need to know what you are doing.
BT is nothing more than a wireless RS-232. (usb for that matter is the same)
if you loop your phone's gps to a bt vtty and then connect the vtty to another device it could work. nontheless you also should need to work on the clint's bt profiles to get what you want.
i have done this some time ago with an windows phone but it was really nasty and painful hack.
I've e-mailed the Amazon Market folks in an attempt to get in touch with the Kindle Fire developers. TetherGPS is already on the Amazon market, and my goal is to make sure that it works with the Kindle Fire out of the gate.
If anyone knows the best way to get in touch with them, please let me know.
Thanks!
Andy
TetherGPS

Nexus 10 usable as screen?

Hi xda users,
since the display of the Nexus 10 will be awesome I'm contemplating getting it because I'd really like to use it as a (second) screen for my computer. Does anyone know if this will be possible? Probably not without, but maybe *with* a mod? Can we use this Miracast Screen Share the other way round possibly?
It'd be really cool to play games on it as well, with the power of my desktop. I wouldn't be able to tell the pixels apart/ wouldn't see any pixelisation. Also this will get rid of the need for antialiasing which will boost performance
Woohoooo
There's an app for that
iDisplay or Splashtop 2
I personally haven't tried them out but they might be what your looking for.
Thanks! Well Splashtop2 is only over Wireless, so it's probably going to be to slow at least for gaming. iDevices with USB support looks better. Does anyone know how bad the latency is (with both)?
Anyway to make the tablet as a video monitor? i/e hdmi IN?
Splashtop2 is pretty good and there is hardly any delay so depending on what you are using it for it might be okay, but it doesn't give you an extra screen just mirrors an existing one. If you want an additional screen you could try airdisplay, haven't tried it for gaming but it might be okay.
Also I have played D3 using Splashtop and besides not being a very good game it worked fine.
OMG that's awesome sauce
OMG that's an awesome idea, the Nexus 10 has resolution comparable to my 30 inch monitor... crazy.
please post to tell us if it worked.
Yeah I'm very interested in this. I tried out Air Display and it worked well, but it had low framerates and some lag.
How can I use the Nexus 10 to replace the cracked screen on my Lenovo E420 laptop?
I will not always have access to a wireless network, so I need to find a solution that is either wired or bluetooth.
I assume a wired connection would be best, followed by bluetooth.
Thanks.
tt c6 said:
How can I use the Nexus 10 to replace the cracked screen on my Lenovo E420 laptop?
I will not always have access to a wireless network, so I need to find a solution that is either wired or bluetooth.
I assume a wired connection would be best, followed by bluetooth.
Thanks.
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I don't think it's possible to do it wired, because the Nexus 10 has no input port for its display.
Bluetooth as far as I know does not have a protocoll for video transfer, so that's not possible either afaik.
However you might be able to connect them per WiFi Direct oder WiFi Ad-Hoc, meaning you don't need WiFi network on it's own because they connect directly or the Nexus 10 to the Ad-Hoc network, respectively. If your laptop supports WiFi Direct (you can look it up on the WiFi Alliance Website, every product is listed there) you might be able to use Miracast. But you need software for it on your laptop for windows or whatever you use. If you got Android 4.2 on it, then you don't need new software ;P (that's probably not easily achieved, but may be soon when there's an official x86 AndroidOSP Version).
If not, try DLNA. I don't know if Windows or Linux supports it, but I think support is achievable through software.
Good luck and report back if it works!

[Q] Preferred Wireless Display Adapter?

I recently upgraded my Nexus 7 and saw this in the "What's New" section:
Share what’s on your phone on the big screen.
Android 4.2 allows devices to enable wireless display. You can share movies, YouTube videos, and anything that’s on your screen on an HDTV. Just connect a wireless display adapter to any HDMI-enabled TV to mirror what’s on your screen quickly and easily.
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I immediately went to Amazon and looked for different "wireless display adapters" per the announcement above, but I'm totally in the dark to which are going to be compatible with the Nexus 7. Does anyone have a recommendation?
Also, will I be able to connect to my Wi-Fi and still have an internet connection? I'm assuming I will be able to and it's more like they're all networked together (Computer, Display Adapter, Nexus 7, etc.), correct?
Lastly, I don't believe I noticed a new app on my phone to facilitate the connection once the Wireless Display Adapter is purchased and connected; am I missing something?
Thanks in advance for all of your help, you guys are the best!
Start with this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987695 Post 2 & beyond.
Thanks for the direction. Checked that thread out and found that Miracast is not compatible with N7, but is there any other hardware/software that would be?
For example:
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Screen...353&sr=8-1&keywords=wireless+display+adapters
jcalderone said:
Thanks for the direction. Checked that thread out and found that Miracast is not compatible with N7, but is there any other hardware/software that would be?
For example:
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Screen...353&sr=8-1&keywords=wireless+display+adapters
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The N7 currently does not support Miracast, and there is doubt it ever can since it does not support 802.11a.
ya gotta love it
If mrs pete and Mr repeat sat on a log Mrs repeat fell off . what would happen next
This subject has been beaten to death .. Im so sad it does not work But that is the reality ..
No, not yet. You must wait.
If there's a will there's a way
jcalderone said:
I recently upgraded my Nexus 7 and saw this in the "What's New" section:
I immediately went to Amazon and looked for different "wireless display adapters" per the announcement above, but I'm totally in the dark to which are going to be compatible with the Nexus 7. Does anyone have a recommendation?
Also, will I be able to connect to my Wi-Fi and still have an internet connection? I'm assuming I will be able to and it's more like they're all networked together (Computer, Display Adapter, Nexus 7, etc.), correct?
Lastly, I don't believe I noticed a new app on my phone to facilitate the connection once the Wireless Display Adapter is purchased and connected; am I missing something?
Thanks in advance for all of your help, you guys are the best!
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I have scoured the internet for days and days trying to find the solution to not having hdmi capability and hopefully I'm on the right path. The wireless way sounds like it will be the only possibility so I was reading an article on engadget . Unfortunately I'm unable to post a link to it on here. But if you search nexus 7 WiFi media you will find the article I am referring to.
Any of you more intelligent people have any comments, sounds like a 100 dollar solution. Thanks
ibemayhem said:
I have scoured the internet for days and days trying to find the solution to not having hdmi capability and hopefully I'm on the right path. The wireless way sounds like it will be the only possibility so I was reading an article on engadget . Unfortunately I'm unable to post a link to it on here. But if you search nexus 7 WiFi media you will find the article I am referring to.
Any of you more intelligent people have any comments, sounds like a 100 dollar solution. Thanks
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That's not screen mirroring. It's just DLNA/UPNP. And there are better and cheaper solutions. First look if your TV already supports DLNA/UPNP. If not, get yourself a raspberry pi and install raspbmc, openelec or any other distro that gives you XBMC. Then just enable it in the XBMC settings and get yourself a xbmc remote and a UPNP/DLNA app like bubbleupnp. That way you can even watch nearly any media you want on your big screen including avi(enable unsupportet mime types in bubbleupnp settings) and youtube videos(in the youtube app just press share and then share it via your xbmc remote).
But it is still no screen mirroring like miracast. I still have hope for miracast on the n7, since MIRACAST DOES NOT NEED 802.11a it is only optional for better performance in some situations.
And if that doesn't work, there is always the amazing open source community. Android Transporter just needs to be implemented into Cyanogenmod and given sound support and we don't need to wait for the big players to implement miracast on our n7.
Look at what asus has to say.
commercial.asus.com/product/detail/nexus-7
Nexus 7 is powered by Android™ 4.1, Jelly Bean, the latest version of the world’s most popular mobile platform. Featuring faster and smoother graphics and transitions, smarter notifications, new widgets that put frequently used content front and center, and home screen customization with easy drag and drop navigation, the platform is faster and more intuitive.Now, via FOTA update, Android™ 4.2 is available. Features of this latest operating system include support for multiple users on a tablet, Swype-style gesture keyboard for easy typing while on-the-go, Daydream screensaver which displays useful information when the tablet is idle or docked, Photo Sphere which creates a new way to take panoramic photos, and the ability mirror what's on the tablet to an HDMI-enabled HDTV through a wireless display adapter to share with others.[\QUOTE]
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Can you use a Nexus10 as a PRIMARY laptop screen to replace a broken laptop screen ?

I wanted to know if the Nexus 10 can be used as a PRIMARY laptop screen?
A wired connection would be preferred, with a bluetooth connection being an alternative.
I cracked the screen on my Lenovo E420 laptop and I wanted to buy a Nexus10 and use it as a replacement for my primary laptop LCD.
Thank you.
You could look into this: http://www.celiocorp.com/screenslider/
irishrally said:
You could look into this: http://www.celiocorp.com/screenslider/
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Thanks for posting, Rally.
Unfortunately, the solution you provided requires a Wi-Fi network connection.
I need a wired solution preferably, or bluetooth solution at worst, because I will not always have WiFi access.
From the site you provided:
http://www.celiocorp.com/screenslider_faq
Q: I've installed the PC and Android apps but the two devices can't see each other in the "Find Devices" (PC) or "Connect To" (Android) menus.
A: Make sure that you enable Wi-Fi on your Android device and that the ScreenSlider for Android app is running on your device with the screen turned on,
Q: I've installed the PC and Android apps but the two devices, enabled Wi-Fi on my Android device, but the two devices can't see each other to start a connection.
A: In order for ScreenSlider to function properly both your PC and Android device need to be on the same Local Area Network (LAN and subnet). Your PC can be connected to the network via Wi-Fi or Ethernet but must stay on the same LAN and subnet. This should not be a problem for home use (and for some small businesses too) especially if you only have one wired/wireless router in the home or office connected to your incoming Internet connection (Cable modem, DLS modem, etc.). If your PC and Android device can not see each other on a complicated home network or in an office environment, please ask your IT administrator to see if both devices are on the same LAN and subnet.
But Why??
Why would you use the nexus 10 as a replacement screen when you could just simply well.... buy a replacement screen? Unless your intention is to use the nexus as it is intended as well but..... i don'y know i just find it odd to use a 350 dollar tablet as a replacement LCD.
Droid_4_ever said:
Why would you use the nexus 10 as a replacement screen when you could just simply well.... buy a replacement screen? Unless your intention is to use the nexus as it is intended as well but..... i don'y know i just find it odd to use a 350 dollar tablet as a replacement LCD.
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You answered your own question.
If I have to buy a new "screen", I might as well get one that can serve 2 purposes:
1. A stand alone Android tablet
2. A replacement LCD for my laptop.
As nice and geeky as it sounds, it's never going to be practical. At best you could remote desktop into the laptop from the tablet, otherwise, not worth the effort, just get a new screen, or bin the laptop if you can live with just a tablet.
Maybe check out iDisplay?
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk 2
chilimac02 said:
Maybe check out iDisplay?
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks for the suggestion.
Unfortunately, it requires all devices be connected to WiFi.
I'm looking for a wired or bluetooth connection.
alias_neo said:
As nice and geeky as it sounds, it's never going to be practical. At best you could remote desktop into the laptop from the tablet, otherwise, not worth the effort, just get a new screen, or bin the laptop if you can live with just a tablet.
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Thanks for the response.
Why can't it be practical?
Why can't the Nexus10 work as an external monitor with either a wired or a bluetooth connection?
tt c6 said:
Thanks for the response.
Why can't it be practical?
Why can't the Nexus10 work as an external monitor with either a wired or a bluetooth connection?
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No problem,
Well, the device isn't designed to accept video on its usb port, and it probably lacks the bandwidth unless it supports some reverse MHL implementation.
As for Bluetooth, I'm pretty sure all Bluetooth versions lack the bandwidth by some margin to display decent quality video at a decent rate.
Unfortunately just the nature of these things, it wasn't designed for it, so it'll never do a very good job of it.... Remote desktop on the other hand over Wifi will probably work quite nicely.
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Nexus 6P and miracast/mirroring

Does anyone know a way for me to mirror my screen of this phone without WiFi?
The phone apparently does not support HDMI over USB-C and I need to find a way to mirror my screen via HDMI.
My car has an HDMI input to the head unit and it was just recently found to have a bypass in it so that the HDMI will work while driving. I do not want to watch videos while driving but I do want Google maps/waze to be shown on my head unit screen as the car's standard navi is terrible.
I have tried using Chromecast but the Chromecast does not work unless the car is connected to WiFi. Using my phone as a hotspot was a workaround up until an update to the Chromecast was said to cause it to crash. So this option is out.
What I would like to do ideally is buy an HDMI miracast dongle to mirror the screen as it uses WiFi direct. If I go into settings>WiFi>menu>advanced I see the WiFi direct menu but it looks incomplete.
I did some searching and saw that there was a way to edit the build.prop on the nexus 6 to allow for miracast.
Does anyone know if this is possible with the 6p and do you think it would be a viable option?
I have asked the question about the build.prop modification, but have not got any response
I can use TCL_nscreen Pro, but I would like a stock option
It is exactly the same for the Nexus 6 as it was for the 6. There are a couple of threads in here already on it, but essentially it is the build.prop modification and then after a reboot, set the allow wifi setting in the setting of the cast screen.
persist.debug.wfd.enable=1
Chromecast can be made to work again by downgrading to the previous version and then switching off auto update.
You can cast your screen while using the hotspot feature. You have to cast using the cast button in the quick settings. I had to use a tablet to configure the chromecast the first time so it knows what wifi network to use (Which is the hotspot)
Has anyone successfully got this working? I have modified my build.prop without success. Screen mirroring to my Fire stick is essential to me.
Yes, I am using Miracast. As well as modifying the file, have you rebooted and in the cast screen gone into options and selected the wireless option?
400ixl said:
Yes, I am using Miracast. As well as modifying the file, have you rebooted and in the cast screen gone into options and selected the wireless option?
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It's working now. Thanks
Good to hear
What do you need to add/edit on your build.prop to use Miracast? Just add "persist.debug.wfd.enable=1" ?
rayfin said:
What do you need to add/edit on your build.prop to use Miracast? Just add "persist.debug.wfd.enable=1" ?
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Yes. I just added it to the last line.
Will miricast work through apps like YouTube or play movies? Or have they disabled it system wide?
sixcoronas said:
Yes. I just added it to the last line.
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Does it screw up use of Chromecast like the poster above implied?
jeetS said:
Will miricast work through apps like YouTube or play movies? Or have they disabled it system wide?
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System wide, only casting through Chromecast will work by default.
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Does it screw up use of Chromecast like the poster above implied?
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Chromecast still worked for me. I just switched to Chroma, which has it built in. Pure Nexus did not.
sixcoronas said:
Chromecast still worked for me. I just switched to Chroma, which has it built in. Pure Nexus did not.
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The mic problems I see reported in the thread make me a bit nervous, but it looks like a great ROM otherwise.
stargate125645 said:
The mic problems I see reported in the thread make me a bit nervous, but it looks like a great ROM otherwise.
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The rom is legendary!
Hey guys. I am interested in casting from 6P. I have looked into casting using Chromecast and although i have all the equipment to set up today, I am a bit concerned about the casting dropping out if I were to lose data momentarily (BIG CONCERN). As such, before I install chromecast in my car (using with appradio) only to have to rip it out later, I would like to explore miracast. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced miracast device I can purchase (say from amazon or wherever) to cast my 6P? I understand its easier to set up and does not require data to mirror.
Thanks
thesticks00 said:
Hey guys. I am interested in casting from 6P. I have looked into casting using Chromecast and although i have all the equipment to set up today, I am a bit concerned about the casting dropping out if I were to lose data momentarily (BIG CONCERN). As such, before I install chromecast in my car (using with appradio) only to have to rip it out later, I would like to explore miracast. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced miracast device I can purchase (say from amazon or wherever) to cast my 6P? I understand its easier to set up and does not require data to mirror.
Thanks
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You need a second phone in order to use Chromecast unless you use an older version that lets you trick it into streaming from the same phone that is the WiFI hotspot. Google didn't not include Miracast by default so you need to enable it in the build.prop file. The Microsoft Miracast dongle works fine for me and has been rated pretty well. Regardless, you don't need a data connection for either if you are not streaming something from the internet, so I don't know what you're expecting to be different between the two options.
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You need a second phone in order to use Chromecast unless you use an older version that lets you trick it into streaming from the same phone that is the WiFI hotspot. Google didn't not include Miracast by default so you need to enable it in the build.prop file. The Microsoft Miracast dongle works fine for me and has been rated pretty well. Regardless, you don't need a data connection for either if you are not streaming something from the internet, so I don't know what you're expecting to be different between the two options.
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Wait. I thought that was the main reason why people are opting for using miracast devices and not chromecast. I have the original chromecast (not the newer ones). But I was under the impression that if you lose your data connection (from carrier), your wifi hotspot goes down, and your phone is no longer connected to the chromecast. I am fine not being able to stream content from the internet, as long as my phone is still mirroring to chromecast and is visible on what I have connected chromecast to. I have tons of content on my device that I can cast, I just need to be able to mirror if my data connection on the 6P goes out. Please confirm because this changes everything. Sounds like if I have the original chromecast there is not much difference between it an miracast devices.
thesticks00 said:
Wait. I thought that was the main reason why people are opting for using miracast devices and not chromecast. I have the original chromecast (not the newer ones). But I was under the impression that if you lose your data connection (from carrier), your wifi hotspot goes down, and your phone is no longer connected to the chromecast. I am fine not being able to stream content from the internet, as long as my phone is still mirroring to chromecast and is visible on what I have connected chromecast to. I have tons of content on my device that I can cast, I just need to be able to mirror if my data connection on the 6P goes out. Please confirm because this changes everything. Sounds like if I have the original chromecast there is not much difference between it an miracast devices.
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I am talking about the Chromecast application that needs to be an old version, not the device. Otherwise, you need a second phone. I don't know if the mobile hotspot dies when you lose 4G even if you aren't using Internet directly, sorry. I didn't think it would, but I've never had the experience to be able to answer affirmatively. Miracast would be your choice if that is what happens, but again you need to edit the build.prop for the Nexus 6P to make it work with Miracast. Dimming the screen is also going to be an issue (the device is AMOLED so screen off programs will not work) in order to maintain a charge, so you should look into that before purchase as well.

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