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Connect Universal directly to 80GB Mobile Hard Drive?

Is there any way to connect the Universal Directly to a mobile hard drive?.
to be more precise, to this one:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10669

Not Directly NO. The Universal does not have the USB Host hardware required to attach this kind of thing.

Take a look at this...
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2002_10/pr0902.htm
Forget wires
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interesting...
but anyways there could be a kind of "piece of hardware" bewtween HD and Universal that makes the USB host function.. or maybe I am a bit lost..

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Take a look at this...
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2002_10/pr0902.htm
Forget wires
Regards
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Universal has WIFI so youd be better off just mapping a network drive or something rather than using bluetooth which is very slow.
jimcl said:
interesting...
but anyways there could be a kind of "piece of hardware" bewtween HD and Universal that makes the USB host function.. or maybe I am a bit lost..
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That would be a PC Its certainly possible that somebody could make a card for the SDIO slot that would support USB Hosting but I am not aware of one.

Better wait for cheaper 4 gigabytes sd cards

Hi jimcl,
You have the same idea as me! I was thinking of hooking up my external 60GB HDD to my Exec using just a normal camera USB cable. As you have thought, it didn't work. Wouldn't it be great if things just works the way we wanna them to be?
I assume that if it works, the battery on your Exec will dry up very quickly as the HDD draws its power from it.
Anyway, if you find anything that allows you to do that, please post it out here and share it with everyone!
Cheers!
Regards,
Johnnie

Wifi would be much better, and is already available, but they are not designed for mobile use, mains supply required.
SDIO to USB is, I think is in the pipeline, but prehaps a better solution would be SDIO to Wired Ethernet, more likely to find this for PDA's with no Wifi, and USB/Ethernet hard drives are available now. Although ethernet drives still require mains supply but USB ones would suck power to quick from the host
I think we will see host controllers as standard in future PDAs.
I know the 5Gb is not particulary good on the Toshiba device, but I doubt it will be long before the capacity increases.
I must admit, SD/MMC cards are a better way to go and I think 8gb is in the pipeline now and prices will drop over time.

of course I'll share the solution... in case I find it!
I more or less agree with all your comments... but sometimes we just want to work with the things we have, ... I already have a mobile hard drive. That's all.
Apart from 4GB SD cards - and future 8GB - maybe we could find a solution in the WIFI way, but anyways 8GB SD card sounds great - maybe not its price..

If your looking for a solution for home or car try the asus WL-HDD wireless access point / hard drive
I picked one up off ebay for 50ukp with a 60 gig drive in it,
Also lets you copy stuff from other usb devices to the hard drive (without a pc) or share other usb devices over the wireless (with new firmware from asus).
http://reviews.cnet.com/Asus_WL_HDD_2_5/4505-3382_7-31080278-2.html?tag=nav
Power wise it needs 5v @ 2 amps
Being linux based there is also some hacked firmware that will let you use other usb devices or turn it into a webserver and other things..
http://wl500g.info/
currently selling in the uk without drive for around 36ukp (scan)

RE
Yes, you can connect the Universal to the hard disk directly WITHOUT going through a router/access point using Wi-Drive, here:-
http://www.edslab.com/products.htm
Spoken to the developer 2 days back and was told that it'll be ready this coming August. It'll be released with a 30GB hard disk as this will be more affordable to the public. If you need higher capacity hard disk you'll need to install it yourself.

archos 70s (prestigio pmp70770) external stick problemm

helo
i have a problem that is eating my brain
i have prestigio pmp7070 (aka Archos 70S) and i want to play some music from external usb stick on it.
i bought this
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but when i plug it all in, nothing is hapening
help please

Are you using stock firmware or custom one?

It doesn't work because you bought a micro B to usb A cable but you need a micro A (with 4 right angles) to usb A like this :
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I know that because I bought the same type of cable than yours and it's not working .

@mavasilisk: stock firmware
@Starman: i am not sure it would fit. cable that was in package when i bought tablet was with this type of connector that i have now.

Yes and that is for connecting the device to a computer.
What you need is called an OTG cable and that looks exactly as starman said.
The Nokia ca-157 looks similar to the cable you bought but is has the right "end".

Well, today i have tested this nokia ca157cabel. Doesn't work.
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Then either your usbport is broken, or the device you want to connect tells that it needs more then 100mA.

When i connect my tablet with my computer, file transfering works i both way, computer recognize it normaly. Is there any other way to se if usb is broken???
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No, then your stick needs more ( or at least tells the archos ) more then 100mA.
Did you try a powered Hub?

fzelle said:
No, then your stick needs more ( or at least tells the archos ) more then 100mA.
Did you try a powered Hub?
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Powered hub is something that i was planing to do next. Usb stick is not so important because there are always sd-cards, but i want to buy one of those keyboard with leather case from e-bay and i am not sure if that will work.
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Try the hub, if that works, then it is the powerconsumption of the stick and the keyboard is working.
Or try UrukDroid, as this raises the output and is able to use most sticks.

fzelle said:
Try the hub, if that works, then it is the powerconsumption of the stick and the keyboard is working.
Or try UrukDroid, as this raises the output and is able to use most sticks.
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ok, i have UrukDroid & i have nokia cable ca157 and it is still does not working.
problem is that every powered hub that i find is HUUUGE and have 5-10 usb ports, and i don't need that much.
EDIT
i did it. i made my own "usb powered hub". ok it is far from it but actualy it works.
in micro usb i connected pins 5 and 4
only thing diferent, is that i put external power on vcc. and.....it works.
nokia ca157 DOESN'T works so don't use it. waste of money

Why i purchased p3110.

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took me:
5 minutes to root.
5 minutes to install CM10.
3 hours to mount it to the dashboard cause i had to cut a lot of holes in my car
But the project isn't over yet. I still need to fine tune the position of the tablet to it's sits against the frame.
Make a USB(OTG) y-cable so i can charge while mounting external storage.
Fine some more awesome applications for the car
But now to some question
Will it even be possible to charge while using USB host through a y-cable without hacking the kernel?

Sweeeeeet! Keep us posted, also would love to know how your best connectivity is. WiFi, 3 g, Bluetooth, etc.
Thank you!

I cant answer your question... but try it, it may already work. What car is that btw, was thinking on later putting my tab in my mustang, but tthe shaker audio system is wayy too good to screw up if i messed it up somehow, ill stick to that aux for now lol.
Sent either from my p113 (gtab 2 7.0) or i997 (Infuse)

P3110 does not have 3G. Just Wifi.
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Sorry, I wasn't clear I meant 3g from teather (or 4g) Thank you anyway. keeping these numbers straight
P 3113

Hey Guys, thanks for the feedback.
Status is i got 3 things left to do now.
1: wait for my OTG cable to arrive and then install that, and hopefully i will be able to charge while using usb as host.
2: lift tablet 2 millimeters in the left side.
3: give my tablet black bezel, think solution will be electricity tape (i know it's kind of crazy to tape my brand new tablet). But after i placed the tablet where it's ought to be, the white bezel isn't as visible as on the picture above.
wowmail said:
Sweeeeeet! Keep us posted, also would love to know how your best connectivity is. WiFi, 3 g, Bluetooth, etc.
Thank you!
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I live i Thailand where the 3g kind of suck, but i made speed and ping test on both tablet and mobile while using tethering, and there wasn't any notable difference between the tablet and the mobile. The GPS in Galaxy tab 2 is very good when comparing with other mobiles and tablets i tried, it connects to a lot of satellites right away. Bluetooth and microphone also works fine, so seems like i havent blocked for any connectivity
Ryanscool said:
I cant answer your question... but try it, it may already work. What car is that btw, was thinking on later putting my tab in my mustang, but tthe shaker audio system is wayy too good to screw up if i messed it up somehow, ill stick to that aux for now lol.
Sent either from my p113 (gtab 2 7.0) or i997 (Infuse)
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It's a Mitsubishi Triton GLS 2011 (aka L200), nothing special but a damn good truck for it's engine class (won the award for best high-lifted pickup).
One of the reasons i went for Tab 2 instead of Nexus beside the hassle i would have to order it from abroad, and all the problems i read people have with the tablet, is the DAC in this tablet (Wolfson). I might look into a digital audio solution later on, but for now it's analog audio transferred to the stereo. I love good audio, but not quite audiophile, but being in a vehicle i don't find it that important for now
I'll let people know if i find a solution for the charging while using USB as host!

Just a little image update after i taped the bezel black
Next up, OTG, USB hub and sd-card reader!

OMG this is really awesome. I want also want it in my car .
Really great, fantastic idea! :good:

Any news on this project ?
some pictures ?
and did you manege to made Y cable to charge TAB and have storage at sime time ?
If, is it posibile to have external USB DAC and charging at the sime time ?
(I heard thet there will be option to conect external USB dac to TAB 2 (3100,3110...)

nu!me! said:
Any news on this project ?
some pictures ?
and did you manege to made Y cable to charge TAB and have storage at sime time ?
If, is it posibile to have external USB DAC and charging at the sime time ?
(I heard thet there will be option to conect external USB dac to TAB 2 (3100,3110...)
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Sorry about my late reply, i changed the Galaxy tab 2 out with a Nexus 7 instead which didn't solve the problem though, even with Timur kernel that doesn't really charge enough using OTG/charge.
With Nexus 7 it is possible to have USB DAC, but i think it is a little overkill to be audiophile when it comes to car sound unless you have a disco on wheels.
Anyway, my solution ended up being wireless storage and i can highly recommend this: http://www.amazon.com/RAVPower®-Wireless-External-Streaming-RP-WD01/dp/B00AQUMZRA which will also work fine with the Galaxy tab 2.
To make it a better experience then make sure you have a kernel that support cifs, or at least the module and then use app like CifsManager from play store to mount the storage as local storage, that way you can access the files within any application you wish.
Will take some new photos of the setup again soon, since the old ones have been removed.

USB OTG to our GT540

Hello !
i have one question to developers...
do we have usb host /otg compiled in any of our kernels?
seems that p500 users managed to get it eventually work
thread about that
if not, can anybody compile them.
i'm ready to test kernels and so... (i'll make otg and y-cable in few days)
cheers
EDIT: ok, i cutted original lg cable, and it seemed that it already have otg enabled (pin4 and 5 are connected)
so i made y cable to provide external power, but nothing happened.. no new inputs in dmesg and apps from market also didnt make it mount. (tried with 2 diffirent usb sticks , external hdd, usb mouse...)
maybe there is something with kernel ?!? can anybody compile new kernel where is otg drivers inside , so i can test them out.
drivers what p500 users used is zte blade -s .. (bcoz it haz same cpu msm7227) (http://sven.killig.de/android/Blade/usb_host/)

Its the hardware, the USB devices like a memory stick needs power to work so the device needs external power to power to the USB device to be order to work.
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if you can, read my post again. i told that i've provided external power to usb stick, but nothing (i think that there is something with drivers or etc..)

hani93 said:
if you can, read my post again. i told that i've provided external power to usb stick, but nothing (i think that there is something with drivers or etc..)
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Yes, you would have to include drivers in the kernel to make it work, like with any hardware. I don't think any of kernels available for our devices have OTG drivers, so you or someone else should compile kernel with these drivers included but that doesn't necessarily means that everything will work.
Wingrime's kernel is open source
https://github.com/wingrime/android_kernel_swift

hani93 said:
if you can, read my post again. i told that i've provided external power to usb stick, but nothing (i think that there is something with drivers or etc..)
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let me see if i understand we need to "cook" the OTG support in some Kernel and then add the drivers to the room so they work and with the original cable we are good to go?

LtDementhial said:
let me see if i understand we need to "cook" the OTG support in some Kernel and then add the drivers to the room so they work and with the original cable we are good to go?
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should be good, but needs testing.
i try to compile kernel with drivers in few day's.. but i have limited time right here.. i'll post results if i get something..

What about the external power though?, the LG GT540 does not have such hardware.
Unless we can get a external powered OTA USB cable, we can probably do such thing
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andyabc said:
What about the external power though?, the LG GT540 does not have such hardware.
Unless we can get a external powered OTA USB cable, we can probably do such thing
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you can buy them if you find (Y-splitter cable).
but i made my own.
it just needs power (5v)
eg. from pc usb port.
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hani93 said:
you can buy them if you find (Y-splitter cable).
but i made my own.
it just needs power (5v)
eg. from pc usb port.
something like that :
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I remember a user on YouTube called 'Blunty3000' uploaded a video over 5 months ago i assume about how to play on emulators with the nexus 7 and he had some USB cable with a power cord to use on the N7.
You don't have to use a PC USB Port, i have a HTC USB charger, you can use the USB charger for power
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andyabc said:
I remember a user on YouTube called 'Blunty3000' uploaded a video over 5 months ago i assume about how to play on emulators with the nexus 7 and he had some USB cable with a power cord to use on the N7.
You don't have to use a PC USB Port, i have a HTC USB charger, you can use the USB charger for power
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This is good idea

[Q] USB 3.0 Issues...

ok i seem to be the only person having this problem, im not sure if its my computer (i have never used the usb 3.0 on it before), the phone or the cable (brand new).
When i connect my phone via the usb 3.0 i get a notification message popup on my computer tell me that the device can perform faster if plugged into a super speed usb 3.0 port.
Problem is i have tried all of the usb 3.0 ports and still the same message, i checked in device manager and it says it is plugged into a usb 2.0 port which it isn't and its only charging at 98ma.
How do i get the usb 3.0 to work?

Not_That_Droid said:
ok i seem to be the only person having this problem, im not sure if its my computer (i have never used the usb 3.0 on it before), the phone or the cable (brand new).
When i connect my phone via the usb 3.0 i get a notification message popup on my computer tell me that the device can perform faster if plugged into a super speed usb 3.0 port.
Problem is i have tried all of the usb 3.0 ports and still the same message, i checked in device manager and it says it is plugged into a usb 2.0 port which it isn't and its only charging at 98ma.
How do i get the usb 3.0 to work?
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Have you done this?

Yeah it only shows the top two options on mine the usb 3.0 one doesn't appear.
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I sit in a similair boat. I don't get the option for USB 3.0 either

No one have any help with this? I have been trying to solve it for about a month now, I could try a different cable maybe a genuine samsung one but I cannot find them anywhere.
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I've done some testing on the speed differences between file transfers on USB 2 and 3 and the difference seemed really minimal (yes, I had the correct options set on the phone). Has anyone else compared speeds?

Yes I know about the speeds, but please if you could refrain from taking this off topic as I really need help with this issue.
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Any suggestions at all?
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Have you done this?
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I can not find this menu i my phone, can you point me where is this option located?

zic1 said:
I can not find this menu i my phone, can you point me where is this option located?
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It's a status bar notification

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It's a status bar notification
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Hmm, when I connect phone with USB 3.0 cable (tested) in my USB 3.0 port on PC nothing apeared in notification bar except info about charging current (450mA) from Galaxy Chargin Current!! Strange....
EDIT: I changed port on PC and notification finally showed, thanks for help!
Cheers

Can you give further details on what you had to do to resolve. I am experiencing this issue and I have tried.....EVERYTHING!!!
I have a Windows 8.1 machine 64-bit, and have USB3 plugged from the motherboard. I have a USB3 pen drive which operates at superspeed without issue (so I know the USB hub, etc is in good shape). I also have a USB 3 card which is a PCI express and have tried connecting this to a Windows 7 64-bit machine and I receive the same results. I have 2 cables and both give the same result. So I am stuck.
On both machines it reports that the device can operate quicker which would suggest Windows knows that this is a USB 3 device. Any ideas how to obtain the USB 3 option on the phone?