Will Installing recovery wipes the phone? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Guys,
My brother he updated his phone to the new stock update android 5.0 now his device is just reboots everytime he puts the pin to unlock his device.
What's the option for him? He has already cleared the cache.
Just wondering if he flash a recovery vida odin and then install another stock rom will it wipe the phone data?
He got some important notes and messages he's worried about. Any ideas.
Thanks

hero000 said:
Hi Guys,
My brother he updated his phone to the new stock update android 5.0 now his device is just reboots everytime he puts the pin to unlock his device.
What's the option for him? He has already cleared the cache.
Just wondering if he flash a recovery vida odin and then install another stock rom will it wipe the phone data?
He got some important notes and messages he's worried about. Any ideas.
Thanks
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Everytime you flash your phone will wipe your data thats not on your sd card. Have you tried connecting to a computer via usb before entering the pin and leaving it on the lock screen? If you can view the device and pull your files on your computer you should be able to recover your data before reflashing.
What kind of phone and carrier do you have? Lollipop is not available on some s4's certain carriers.

Flashing stock roms through Odin doesn't reset the device.

dave106 said:
Flashing stock roms through Odin doesn't reset the device.
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+1 I had to do this to get mine working and didn't lose anything.

AndroidInitiate said:
Everytime you flash your phone will wipe your data thats not on your sd card. Have you tried connecting to a computer via usb before entering the pin and leaving it on the lock screen? If you can view the device and pull your files on your computer you should be able to recover your data before reflashing.
What kind of phone and carrier do you have? Lollipop is not available on some s4's certain carriers.
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Incorrect.
Flashing a recovery NEVER wipes your phone. Flashing a stock rom NEVER wipes your phone unless you select re-partition. Flashing anything else trough Odin will NEVER wipe your phone unless you check re-partition.
Question to the op:
What notes/files are you talking about? Are they stored on the internal storage? Did you try to reflash the firmware (or any newer Lollipop version) trough Odin (without re-partion and .pit)?

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recovering data from download mode?

A coworker of mine installed the OTA update Verizon was pushing down, after rebooting the phone was stuck at the Samsung logo.
We can get the phone into download mode, but recovery errors and none of the buttons respond. (Similar to this thread)
If need be I can take a screenshot or type out the error text he receives trying to go into recovery (stock)
A little more info i can give as is: his phone is stock rom, but I do believe he has it rooted.
I have flashed roms onto my phone (Captivate) so I am familiar with working with Odin, but the problem is that he has data on the phone he needs to recover.
ADB does not recognize the phone, but his computer does seem to detect it.
Does anyone have any advice on getting something to recognize the phone so we can pull data, or is there a rom/setting that would leave his data as is?
If you odin a rom or even flash a rom it doesnt touch any of the data on the SDcard. he will loose call history and sms history. Pictures and things will be left on the sdcard untouched.
This is the most complete and up to date guide for the fassy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
Thanks for the heads up.
Just to be clear we are talking about the internal SD card right? Not the removable one.
He is apparently mostly concerned with losing his app data. As long as that will be safe I can have him up and running in a matter of minutes, especially with your link.
NO app data will be gone as well
What rom did he have or was it stock?
when i said the sd card i was referring to the removable one.
I figured that was the case
He is running the stock Froyo rom.
Would it be possible to use Odin (or some other tool) to push CWM onto the phone and maybe get it to mount from there?
He did say Odin recognizes a device when it's plugged in.
You may be past the point of no return. Since the phone is boot-looping and not actually booting up there may be no way to root the phone to flash CWM.
Odin is unfortunately a one-way street. Its designed to flash data ON to the phone, Not pull data off.
the phone does not have to be rooted to odin cwm....that being said, op try odining cwm2.5.1.x red and three finger into recovery, wipe cache & dalvik, then go to my guide section 1, use ccampos powerwashed ed05 froyo. That rom is close enough to what stock froyo is, so it might work! Or you can try geewiz froyo also, but one of those might get the phone back up and running without completely wiping everything.
just fyi once you odin a full rom all app data is gone. I have never attempted to pull app data from the mounting of the internal memory using cwm.
xwhofarted said:
just fyi once you odin a full rom all app data is gone. I have never attempted to pull app data from the mounting of the internal memory using cwm.
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Thats why I suggested to try and flash a close to stock froyo rom in cwm without wiping data. odin will do a full wipe, so thats his only option that I am aware of.
Could he odin a recovery, make a back up, flash a new close to stock rom, advanced restore data? It would probable have alot of issues but may give him the opportunity to make a backup.
mentose457 said:
Could he odin a recovery, make a back up, flash a new close to stock rom, advanced restore data? It would probable have alot of issues but may give him the opportunity to make a backup.
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my co-worker had something similar happen and this is what I had him do. It didn't fair too well but it was worth a shot.
Ended up using odin to push a stock verizon rom and started over. Then I MADE him put cwm on his device and make a backup immediately incase it were to happen again.

Can't flash a stock rom..?

My device:
SPH-L720
Android 4.4.2
Baseband L720VPUFNAE
Kernel Version [email protected] #2 Mon Feb 24 14:19:28 EST 2014
Carbon Version: CARBON-KK-SHINYSIDE-EDITION-20140224-140
Build Number: carbon-jfltespr-userdebug 4.4.2 KVT49L e71e225082 test-keys
SELinux status
Enforcing
Interal space/free: 9.59/8.84
I have formatted my phone completely. There was no rom on it, nothing installed on the SD card. Formatted the system, data, cache, preload, etc. I installed the stock firmware NAE with odin, and it went fine. I booted the device, and it boots into a encrypted screen. When I try to press enter, it says failed. When I type in a previous password of mine, it fails. I shut down the phone, boot into download mode. I install root with CF-root via odin, and flash the NAE modem. I shut down the phone, and put it back into download mode. I install philz-touch recovery, and i install a stock, rooted Deodexed rom. It installs, and reboots. Once it boots, i get an ecnrypted screen.
If i install a different rom, anything Cyanogenbased (hellkat, cyanogen, carbon) then I do not have this problem. Does anyone know what's going on? I have formatted my phone 4 times now. The device was once encrypted, but I have removed that several roms ago.
Can someone tell me what's going on?
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I'm seeing stuff about knox security. Is this what i'm seeing?
edit-fixed!
Alright, thanks to a user suggestion in this thread this is what I have done.
1) Install Unofficial Carbon and complete the initial setup.
2) Encrypt the device. Your phone must be plugged in, and at least 80% battery.
3) Then rebooted into Philz Touch recovery, and cleaned to install a new rom.
4) Installed 4.3 stock(ish) rom
5) I was then able to boot, and the device did not ask for an encryption password.
The only conclusion I can come up with is that since I re-encrypted the data, that it deleted it and the old partition when I cleared my system/data. I have no idea to be honest, but now the phone works.
I was not able to get any stock rooted firmware other than Stock(ish) to work with the modem. I flashed it, I used CDMA to write the PRL..but nothing. I may try to do that later, but for now i'm on an essentially stock 4.4 ROM with an NAE modem.
Sorry, but if your phone was encrypted before, you may be out of luck with out a password. If it was as easy as a factory reset to defeat encryption than your data would never be safe. You may need to take it into Sprint and see if the tool they use to force a firmware install can fix it. Also, if you have an sdcard installed remove it and try to odin the stock tar again and boot up. It may just be that your sdcard has been encrypted and without it in your phone it will work.
cruise350 said:
Sorry, but if your phone was encrypted before, you may be out of luck with out a password. If it was as easy as a factory reset to defeat encryption than your data would never be safe. You may need to take it into Sprint and see if the tool they use to force a firmware install can fix it. Also, if you have an sdcard installed remove it and try to odin the stock tar again and boot up. It may just be that your sdcard has been encrypted and without it in your phone it will work.
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The Sdcard isn't in when I am experiencing the problem. The encryption before shouldn't matter, as it's been formatted and i've installed countless roms since.
Looking for a better answer
Nobody has had this issue or knows someone that has? A google search hasn't returned anything useful other than what i've already done.
Encryption has nothing to do with SD cards. You can encrypt your phone data. And without that password, no amount of flashing with get you back in.
Sounds like you need a visit to a Sprint store to help. They have tools that can get you back in to your phone.
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VandyCWG said:
Encryption has nothing to do with SD cards. You can encrypt your phone data. And without that password, no amount of flashing with get you back in.
Sounds like you need a visit to a Sprint store to help. They have tools that can get you back in to your phone.
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I don't see how me encrptying the device won't bring the storage area back. If i format an encrypted flash drive, i get all of my storage back?
I visited the spring store today, and they told me they couldn't help me..so i'm here again.
could it be possible that re-encrypting while your runnin on cyanogenmod rom would either over-ride or over write the previous encryption? (i have little knowledge of encryption, but just a thought)
bioshocked said:
could it be possible that re-encrypting while your runnin on cyanogenmod rom would either over-ride or over write the previous encryption? (i have little knowledge of encryption, but just a thought)
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That's an interesting idea..will give it a go later.
backdown said:
I don't see how me encrptying the device won't bring the storage area back. If i format an encrypted flash drive, i get all of my storage back?
I visited the spring store today, and they told me they couldn't help me..so i'm here again.
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I think the issue is, once you encryrpt your device, its encrypted. Have you tried to ODIN back to stock firmware. You would probably lose your data, but you would get your phone back.
That's a guess. But this highlights a reason why encypting devices can be bad.
VandyCWG said:
I think the issue is, once you encryrpt your device, its encrypted. Have you tried to ODIN back to stock firmware. You would probably lose your data, but you would get your phone back.
That's a guess. But this highlights a reason why encypting devices can be bad.
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I have already flashed it to a 4.4.2 firmware. The problem only exists with stock firmware and stock rooted ROMs, not custom ROMs like CyanogenMod.
An update..
So I encrypted my device using the Carbon-rom, and rebooted into recovery. I wiped my device, and installed the Stock(ish) ROM. I was able to boot into the device, without any kind of encryption screen.
I am going to try a fully stock rooted 4.4.2 app and update this post.
backdown said:
So I encrypted my device using the Carbon-rom, and rebooted into recovery. I wiped my device, and installed the Stock(ish) ROM. I was able to boot into the device, without any kind of encryption screen.
I am going to try a fully stock rooted 4.4.2 app and update this post.
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Definitely let us know how this plays out.
Like the other guy said though this certainly highlights the reason a lot of people are scared to encrypt. their phones. I hope you get it going again!
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I was able to encrypt my phone while running carbon. Upon completion, I rebooted into recovery and wiped to install a new ROM. I installed the stock(ish) ROM running 4.3. I then updated my profile and the device activated. Everything works as it should.
I tried installing a stock rooted NAE ROM and it installed fine. The handset was taking ages to update though. I flashed the NAE modem, but that doesn't work either. All in all I'm still happy.
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I have updated the original post with more information about what I did. If anyone faces this problem, let me know and I will try to help you the best I can.

Reset S4 with broken LCD

Hi guys, i've broken my Galaxy s4 lcd some day ago, and yesterday i've decided to sell it on ebay.
But now i have to wipe it. The problem is that i am running a custom Touchwiz rom and Philz touch recovery. So i don't think i can use Kies to make a factory reset.
I can use Odin to flash a stock image etc... But i don't know how to solve completely my problems.
Can someone help me? Thx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41392134
Take help from this
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
DeepankarS said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41392134
Take help from this
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
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Thank you for the replay.
However, the Galaxy S4 doesn't have fastboot mode, but only download mode and recovery mode, so I don't know how to use the commands...
OmniSlyfer said:
Thank you for the replay.
However, the Galaxy S4 doesn't have fastboot mode, but only download mode and recovery mode, so I don't know how to use the commands...
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Odin will fix it.
Flash the stock ronin Odin. All your user data will be (sort of) removed.
A skilled user could still recover your user data' but most people won't even know its there.
You will not need the phone's screen to work at any point in the Odin process.
Skipjacks said:
Odin will fix it.
Flash the stock ronin Odin. All your user data will be (sort of) removed.
A skilled user could still recover your user data' but most people won't even know its there.
You will not need the phone's screen to work at any point in the Odin process.
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Oh ok perfect
I've just finished to flash the stock rom, I hope evrything worked fine. I'll try to install Kies3 to see if I can maybe do another wipe or something else to delete definately all my data inside (including photos etc...). Any suggestions?
OmniSlyfer said:
Oh ok perfect
I've just finished to flash the stock rom, I hope evrything worked fine. I'll try to install Kies3 to see if I can maybe do another wipe or something else to delete definately all my data inside (including photos etc...). Any suggestions?
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Odin will wipe the data as well as Kies will.
But neither really removes the data. Both just remove the directory structure which makes it easy to sort the data.
To really remove the data you need to overwrite it with new data. That is much more difficult to do without access to the screen on the phone.
You could do it in recovery with the device mounted via usb to a computer. But you generally need to select that in recovery using the touch screen.
You can also push data to the device to overwrite using adb, but its more difficult.
All in all though...unless you have evidence of your participation in a crime on the phone, don't be so worried about it. It will be okay.
Skipjacks said:
All in all though...unless you have evidence of your participation in a crime on the phone, don't be so worried about it. It will be okay.
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Hahahahahahah
Skipjacks said:
Odin will wipe the data as well as Kies will.
But neither really removes the data. Both just remove the directory structure which makes it easy to sort the data.
To really remove the data you need to overwrite it with new data. That is much more difficult to do without access to the screen on the phone.
You could do it in recovery with the device mounted via usb to a computer. But you generally need to select that in recovery using the touch screen.
You can also push data to the device to overwrite using adb, but its more difficult.
All in all though...unless you have evidence of your participation in a crime on the phone, don't be so worried about it. It will be okay.
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Ahahah. Thank you so much for the explanation
I think the buyer will find some photos of me in the phone, i hope he will not die coz of my ugly face
I think this thread can be closed.
Skipjacks said:
Odin will wipe the data as well as Kies will.
But neither really removes the data. Both just remove the directory structure which makes it easy to sort the data.
To really remove the data you need to overwrite it with new data. That is much more difficult to do without access to the screen on the phone.
You could do it in recovery with the device mounted via usb to a computer. But you generally need to select that in recovery using the touch screen.
You can also push data to the device to overwrite using adb, but its more difficult.
All in all though...unless you have evidence of your participation in a crime on the phone, don't be so worried about it. It will be okay.
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Since Google implemented Trim in Android 4.3, it's impossible (as of yet) to recover deleted data. I tried several guides here on XDA on data recovery and none of them work anymore.
See for example this article.
http://forensic.belkasoft.com/en/why-ssd-destroy-court-evidence
So basically if you delete a file or format your system, the data is really gone.
Lennyz1988 said:
Since Google implemented Trim in Android 4.3, it's impossible (as of yet) to recover deleted data. I tried several guides here on XDA on data recovery and none of them work anymore.
See for example this article.
http://forensic.belkasoft.com/en/why-ssd-destroy-court-evidence
So basically if you delete a file or format your system, the data is really gone.
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That article was one of the most awesome nerdy things I ever read. I had no idea about the garbage collectors on solid state memory.
Skipjacks said:
That article was one of the most awesome nerdy things I ever read. I had no idea about the garbage collectors on solid state memory.
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From my experience, flashing stock firmware with Kies DOES NOT wipe the user data/files from phones SD card. I have to always do factory reset from stock recovery to wipe it.
tomtro74 said:
From my experience, flashing stock firmware with Kies DOES NOT wipe the user data/files from phones SD card. I have to always do factory reset from stock recovery to wipe it.
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It wont ever wipe the external sd card
The internal sd card should depend on the tar file and if it formats that partition or not.
I never really paid attention to it myself because I have never had to flash a full stock restore on my S4 so I have no idea what the standard for S4 firmwares is.
The internal data partition though should be wiped with a full stock firmware in odin every single time.
Skipjacks said:
It wont ever wipe the external sd card
The internal sd card should depend on the tar file and if it formats that partition or not.
I never really paid attention to it myself because I have never had to flash a full stock restore on my S4 so I have no idea what the standard for S4 firmwares is.
The internal data partition though should be wiped with a full stock firmware in odin every single time.
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Well, it's not. Believe me. I used to flash stock rom on S4 number of times and I can confirm that flashing stock rom with Odin DOES NOT WIPE any user data. Your photos and other files stays intact as well as the apss ( you may loose some apps internal data ) until factory reset is performed either from stock recovery or from rom itself.
tomtro74 said:
Well, it's not. Believe me. I used to flash stock rom on S4 number of times and I can confirm that flashing stock rom with Odin DOES NOT WIPE any user data. Your photos and other files stays intact as well as the apss ( you may loose some apps internal data ) until factory reset is performed either from stock recovery or from rom itself.
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Well how about that.....you learn something new every day!
OmniSlyfer said:
Hi guys, i've broken my Galaxy s4 lcd some day ago, and yesterday i've decided to sell it on ebay.
But now i have to wipe it. The problem is that i am running a custom Touchwiz rom and Philz touch recovery. So i don't think i can use Kies to make a factory reset.
I can use Odin to flash a stock image etc... But i don't know how to solve completely my problems.
Can someone help me? Thx
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if your S4 opens, just connect it to the PC and then the internal memory will appear
delete whatever you wants

Accidentally wiped internal storage in twrp, device wont boot past GS5 screen.

Im using a SM-G900P (Sprint). Device wont connect to my computer, so I cant flash the stock ROM with Odin (I dont know how to, even if it did connect).
Help....
M4ttR said:
Im using a SM-G900P (Sprint). Device wont connect to my computer, so I cant flash the stock ROM with Odin (I dont know how to, even if it did connect).
Help....
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Find a stock custom rom to flash in twrp. Always back up your data so thing like this don't happen.
Carlos2200 said:
Find a stock custom rom to flash in twrp. Always back up your data so thing like this don't happen.
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I have a Nandroid backup, but no way to flash it.
Are u sure you install device drivers properly ??
Try to re-install device drivers using smart switch amd try again
Or u can try smart switch to install stock rom if ur not rooted
Remove root from supersu if u want to use smart switch
how to recover wiped internal storage by mistake using TWRP
Hi
I have Samsung galaxy s5 SM-g900h
recently, I tried to fix the flickering display at low back light. but I was not to catch the goal. finally I tried to change the custom ROM into lineage-14.1-20180907-nightly-k3gxx-signed. I wiped the dalvik and cache and system and date. by mistake, I ticked the internal storage and it wiped the whole phone.
I installed the ROM. but it has been installed into SD card. now, when I power my phone on, IT does not start. when I connect it to the computer, It shows two memory, one for internal storage with a empty folder of TWRP and one for sd card.
when I tried to install TWRP and use Odine to install ROM again, the download page does not start. I have a black screen.
would you please help me?

Help Needed Urgently

Guys need help urgently.
Today i uninstalled a software called smule and it caused by phone to hang. This automatically restarted my phone and was stuck at the Samsung Logo.
Tried to do soft reset did not work, tried wipe cache from recovery did not work. When I try to mount from the system recovery it will not connect to my PC.
I have 40 GB of pic and videos on my phone which I just can't loose. Need to recover anyhow. Hence one option that i can think of is using the TWRP recovery and mount the phone and copy my important data to pc.
My phone is the 128 GB version Black Pearl. Box say SM-g935FD1
Please help as the data is very precious to me - I don't mind loosing all the apps and settings but can't afford loss of data for me.
I can enter recovery mode and download mode. But can't enter the safe mode.
I have downloaded the following twrp-3.1.1-0-hero2lte.img and ODIN.
Forget twrp. This thing require your /data to be formated first to be able to read data.
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NonXtreme said:
Forget twrp. This thing require your /data to be formated first to be able to read data.
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Is there a way to get the data back if formatted.
Cant I install the TWRP and boot to the recovery and mount the disc to read. Even that will not be possible ?
kailashnj said:
Is there a way to get the data back if formatted.
Cant I install the TWRP and boot to the recovery and mount the disc to read. Even that will not be possible ?
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No.
TWRP can't mount the disk because it is encrypted.
Data on S7 are encrypted by default.
You need to remove encryption by formatting before twrp be able to mount the disk. So any data before being formatted will be lost and unrecoverable.
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No way to recovery. NonXtreme said it as it is.
Just don't do anything that might compromise the data. Wait until someone with experience shows up and meanwhile take it to a samsung store. They might have the tools to bypass whatever causing the bootloop.
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Wait until someone with experience shows up
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is 4 years on xda and over 350 posts not experience?
NonXtreme was correct in what he posted, so why are you saying ignore him?
Damn man. Really need to make regular backups to avoid this my first thought would have been TWRP but of course, as the guys above had said, you simply can't mount /data unless you format it first.
Was it simply an app install? I've never had this sort of thing happen over a simple install.
DON'T DO THIS YET. WAIT FOR FURTHER FEEDBACK.
Guys, could he install fw over the top with odin and home_csc to try avoid wiping data or does this still present an issue with encryption?
Or maybe even just the AP? I can't remember exactly which options wipe data and which ones don't.
Maybe you can try flashing with HOME_CSC. If I remember correctly that doesn't wipe anything - apps and data all remain as-is. Only point where you might be stuck is that during the flashing process or at first boot it will ask for a Pin, and if you have not setup a start up pin in secure startup, you can simply enter "default_password" (without quotes - used to work with older firmwares for S7 edge, but I think I read somewhere that this pin trick now doesn't work with latest one) - so maybe flash the latest and try, if that doesn't work flash an older firmware (with HOME_CSC) and boot and connect your phone to pc and recover - though phone will keep throwing force close errors, and once data is copied flash latest with CSC (instead of HOME_CSC) to wipe the phone clean and start afresh.

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