http://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS6/comments/339zyv/ok_google_crippled_and_per_samsung_no_longer_a
I don't know if this is related to the recent Google Play Services updates or not, or if this really came from Samsung or not. But the options are definitely gone and were there when the phone was first released:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1rC3Pne6YD1bHFRc2ZXRm53RmF1T2NjUmZLX3J0TjhMWE93/view
Normally you'd see the options for using it from any screen and using it while the screen is off and charging, and those options were definitely there when the phone was first released. There's a Note 4 user on G+ that might be seeing the same, but hasn't confirmed for sure yet.
Edit: I'm on the Verizon variant, but have seen a few others that are not Verizon seeing the same thing.
It's gone for me as well. ATT variant.
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It's gone for me as well. ATT variant.
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It seems to be a widespread problem. People aren't noticing it since it was an option not everyone turned on. Those that did are missing it and pissed. The fact that the Retrain Voice option is missing makes me believe this is more an error than deliberate, but you never know.
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Sprint. Gone for me now too. I used this all the time too.
it makes me wonder if there is some sort of security concern. like the ability for someone to walk up, say OK Google and then say a command that could execute an unwanted command. like maybe wipe the phone, or email all your money to my account! ha ha
Both are unrealistic examples...but you catch my drift.
It wouldnt surprise me if it werent removed due to some battery bug or otherwise.
I'd expect it to come back like the Google Fit support did after an update of sorts
Anyone know if the Exynos chip inside the S6 supports low-power hotword detection, similar to the Moto X and Nexus 6?
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Anyone know if the Exynos chip inside the S6 supports low-power hotword detection, similar to the Moto X and Nexus 6?
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Yes it's there and already works with s voice. There was a way to make it work with Google now but now that Google has removed that feature no longer works. To me this is a big deal and needs more noise than it's getting. This was done on purpose not a mistake. Whether was Samsung or Google its jacked up.
I got tired to working with a crippled phone, so decided to do something about it. I did a little research on the internet and found a workaround. It involves dumping the Touch Wiz launcher. And, since neither Google nor Samsung will acknowledge this as I problem, I was NOT about to use the Google Now Launcher. Therefor, I have now installed and configured the Nova Launcher and now have "Ok Google" working from all pages! It still does not launch with the phone in standby, but at least I have the majority of "Ok Google" restored.
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I got tired to working with a crippled phone, so decided to do something about it. I did a little research on the internet and found a workaround. It involves dumping the Touch Wiz launcher. And, since neither Google nor Samsung will acknowledge this as I problem, I was NOT about to use the Google Now Launcher. Therefor, I have now installed and configured the Nova Launcher and now have "Ok Google" working from all pages! It still does not launch with the phone in standby, but at least I have the majority of "Ok Google" restored.
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it works from the home screen, but it does not work from anywhere. JUST when you are in nova launcher. So it's not really a fix. Everyone wants it from ANY screen no matter what app.
eatonjb said:
it works from the home screen, but it does not work from anywhere. JUST when you are in nova launcher. So it's not really a fix. Everyone wants it from ANY screen no matter what app.
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Right, it may be just a work around, but at least it restores some functionality until Google or Samsung fixes this issue!
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Yes it's there and already works with s voice. There was a way to make it work with Google now but now that Google has removed that feature no longer works. To me this is a big deal and needs more noise than it's getting. This was done on purpose not a mistake. Whether was Samsung or Google its jacked up.
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I feel the same. I feel honestly like it was Samsung not wanting competition for its garbage s-voice crap, and worked it out with google. I hope i am wrong but this is samsung and i wouldnt put it past them.
The problem I had with the setting was if it was on detection for all apps then and hangout video or calls would not work. On my S4 before this phone I had it turned off even though I liked the "OK Google" from any screen.
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I feel the same. I feel honestly like it was Samsung not wanting competition for its garbage s-voice crap, and worked it out with google. I hope i am wrong but this is samsung and i wouldnt put it past them.
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That would make sense if this feature was also not working on other TW devices with wake-up S-Voice. That's not the case however, as it works flawlessly on my Note 10.1 2014. What I'm hoping is that Samsung is working with Google to give the Google app access to the cpu Samsung uses in the S6 for screen off voice control. Then we'll have 'ok google' voice controls with no battery drain.
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That would make sense if this feature was also not working on other TW devices with wake-up S-Voice. That's not the case however, as it works flawlessly on my Note 10.1 2014. What I'm hoping is that Samsung is working with Google to give the Google app access to the cpu Samsung uses in the S6 for screen off voice control. Then we'll have 'ok google' voice controls with no battery drain.
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Makes sense! That would be nice for sure. I didnt think about it working on other phones that had s-voice (duh lol). good catch. :good:
Love svoice that launches from any screen even the locked one and you can tell whatever name you gave it (could just be 'OK Google') to open Google. And voila you have Google from any screen.
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Sorry if this is the wrong place but:
What's the difference between the S-Voice from the S4 and Google Now?
I watched sum comparison videos on youtube, but they seem a little bit inaccurate. For example, it said that "google voice" can't open apps, but it can on my Nexus 4.
S voice is Samsung's own personal assistant developed for Galaxy devices . I guess it has been used in GS3, Note 2 and GS4 as well.
Google Now is vast new concept started by Google. It's more than just a personal assistant. It's like improved version of Google Voice..
for ex. if you are entering any highway, GN will warn about traffic
you are entering into a tube station, GN will alert you about the next trains lined up..
Google voice can certainly open apps.
Google now is better .S voice sucks that's the difference. Half the time s voice doesn't function right or gets s##t wrong that you ask for.
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Sorry if this is the wrong place but:
What's the difference between the S-Voice from the S4 and Google Now?
I watched sum comparison videos on youtube, but they seem a little bit inaccurate. For example, it said that "google voice" can't open apps, but it can on my Nexus 4.
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S-Voice is like another apps on Samsung Device that begins with "S", and i prefer to put S as Silly except Samsung
Silly apps that u can find all of them for free in play store but samsung preinstall them on galaxies device!!! on Android OS that it has its own preinstalled apps......................!
of course Google Now is better.
Ok, this is turning into a fanboys sort of thread.
Back to the OPs question:
Essentially, theyre the same thing. Its like iOS' Siri versus Google Now, theyre both designed to do the same things but by different companies
And S-Voice is part of a proprietary framework called Touchwiz, so it can only be installed on devices running a Touchwiz ROM. Google now on the other hand, relies on no underlying framework and so could be installed on any Android device, as long as the Android version supports it
thx for the reply. The reason i ask this question is i installed S Voice on my Nexus 4 from here: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/26/samsung-galaxy-s-4s-s-voice-apk-now-available-to-download/
Is there any reason to have both? I just downloaded it for fun.
With further testing, it seems like the Google now can't open sum apps. Such as PPSSPP, CloudOn, Office Suite, and GTA Vice City. While S voice.apk from the S4 can do this and can do stuff like "turn off wifi" and "turn on bluetooth".
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thx for the reply. The reason i ask this question is i installed S Voice on my Nexus 4 from here: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/26/samsung-galaxy-s-4s-s-voice-apk-now-available-to-download/
Is there any reason to have both? I just downloaded it for fun.
With further testing, it seems like the Google now can't open sum apps. Such as PPSSPP, CloudOn, Office Suite, and GTA Vice City. While S voice.apk from the S4 can do this and can do stuff like "turn off wifi" and "turn on bluetooth".
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Not really, just use whichever is best for what you do, no point in really having 2 of the same sort of utility app
And obviously one will have more features than the other, it just depends on which features are most important to the user
Question, did the s-voice install properly and isnt giving you any force close issues? Strange because I was sure it would rely on the Touchwiz framework
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Not really, just use whichever is best for what you do, no point in really having 2 of the same sort of utility app
And obviously one will have more features than the other, it just depends on which features are most important to the user
Question, did the s-voice install properly and isnt giving you any force close issues? Strange because I was sure it would rely on the Touchwiz framework
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Nope. It installed properly. It only crashes when i go to language & input , select samsung for voice recognizer, and then press voice search.
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Nope. It installed properly. It only crashes when language anD input , select samsung for voice recognizer, and then press voice search
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Interesting....thanks, gonna check it out now!
It would seem that it would rely on the TW framework since its an assistant sort of app...
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Nope. It installed properly. It only crashes when i go to language & input , select samsung for voice recognizer, and then press voice search.
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How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?
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How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?
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Did u turn on ur wifi or data? It needs internet. Other than that, i didnt do anything
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Did u turn on ur wifi or data? It needs internet. Other than that, i didnt do anything
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Tried with both. Could you upload yours since i know it's working? Thanks
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Tried with both. Could you upload yours since i know it's working? Thanks
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what phone do you have?
https://hotfile.com/dl/201722708/fd3276b/S-Voice_Android_phone_J.apk.html
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what phone do you have?
https://hotfile.com/dl/201722708/fd3276b/S-Voice_Android_phone_J.apk.html
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Evo shift, I'm on AOSP 4.2.2 though, so it should be fine. Strangely, that's where I downloaded it from and no luck.
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Evo shift, I'm on AOSP 4.2.2 though, so it should be fine. Strangely, that's where I downloaded it from and no luck.
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try your evo 4 g
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How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?
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I used it for a day then got the network connection error also. Samsung (actually Vlingo/Nuance) reads the incoming device ID and blocks the connection if it's a mismatch with the device ID the app's intended to work with. Same thing happened when people were using bootleg copies of the SGS3's S Voice APK before it was released.
As for S Voice vs. Google Now I use S Voice more. To send a text message for example, Google Now opens up the recipient from the address book but you can't dictate the message, at least not from within Google Now. Same thing with e-mail. Dialing's also kind of clunky where if there are multiple options for your request you have to pick one manually. S Voice also repeats the number back before dialing where Google Now just dials and can miss digits you dictate pretty easily. Using a BT headset you can pretty much completely accomplish things hands free with S Voice while quite a few require a second manual action with Google Now.
Here are some examples
If you're in an app like the browser you also can't get Google Now to launch from the menu key because it's now serving the open application and doesn't recognize the "long press" command to open Google Now. Some people have disabled S Voice and remapped the home key to either Google Search or Voice Dialer. S Voice allows you to post to FB and Twitter too. Also, a lot of Google Now's neatest features (flight departure, package shipping, etc.) require you to use Gmail because Google's servers scrape your messages looking for pertinent data. I don't use Gmail and don't like the idea of Google's servers searching my data, even with my permission so to anyone not exclusively on Gmail certain feature don't mean very much.
Voice controls are also tied to S Voice. I use them pretty frequently; especially with the camera, music player, and to launch apps from the lock screen by voice.
I played with Google Now for a short time when I got my N2 so if it's improved or I'm being too hard on it someone speak up.
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How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?
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i think my S voice stopped working, says no network connection
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i think my S voice stopped working, says no network connection
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It's being blocked because the device ID from the APK you downloaded doesn't match the device ID the server's reading from the actual device.
I love Samsung devices but I can't stand S voice. Unless there has been MAJOR improvement over the S3's/Note2 S voice I will still dislike it. First thing I do when I set up my Galaxy phones is disable it and get rid of the home button delay.
I think google now is better, faster, much more accurate and much more unique ( S voice is a clear copy of Siri).
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I love Samsung devices but I can't stand S voice. Unless there has been MAJOR improvement over the S3's/Note2 S voice I will still dislike it. First thing I do when I set up my Galaxy phones is disable it and get rid of the home button delay.
I think google now is better, faster, much more accurate and much more unique ( S voice is a clear copy of Siri).
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Yup. HTC Speak is on its way as well.
Hi All,
Now that the KK update is out and installed on all RAZR HDs except for those that are pokey, I thought I'd see what everyone's opinions are.
Try to be a little more informative than "it's good", "I like it", or "it sucks", "I want a different phone". I figured this would be a good place to post up new tricks you've discovered, maybe weren't aware of before actually installing the new OS, and maybe help others discover and maximize the capabilities of the phone now.
DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD RELATED TO "WHEN IS THE NEW ROOT METHOD COMING"!!!! There are enough threads getting spammed with that nonsense.
I'll go first I guess:
- Liking the extra RAM that has been freed up with the update. About 30-40 additional MB, which in my case with everything I am running every little bit helps!
- Liking that I am now able to take advantage of the KK Xposed modules.
- Thankful that @iBolski pointed me to the new way to hack the wireless hotspot.
- I was toying with the Daydream option in settings, but couldn't get it to work correctly I don't think.
- Definitely enjoying having a 2-yr old phone that is software relevant again. Having unlimited data on VeeZeeDub I like being able to put off outright buying a phone again like I did this one.
- Liking the fact that lockscreen widgets can be posted on the lockscreen, and that a simple swype down from the clock (while using pattern lock method) moves the pattern lock to the bottom and allows the ability to view the widgets without unlocking the phone. Also like that camera is one of the widgets - much easier to get to in a pinch!
- Liking the fact that with Gravity Box [KK] I can use the frosted lockscreen image setting. Have been wanting that for a while.
- Also liking that when music is playing on the phone, the lockscreen image is changed to a picture of the album cover art (not sure if this is a mod I set up in XBlast Tools or in Gravity Box [KK] or something that is standard on the KK OS, but liking it regardless)
...more to come I'm sure!
I love it since I have root.
Things I love:
-Quicker to launch applications
-No lag, or hold ups
-The new pull down menu is a lot better.
-The lock screen and the ability to to take a picture while locked is very nice.
-Battery life seems to be better.
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
Overall, great update!
I concur with Modernmidnights assessment with the exception of Swype. I haven't used it since I purchased Swiftkey. Like that so much better.
My con was the popping noise, but that's fixed now with the fix that @kabaldan gave us. You can get that here:
http://d-h.st/vre
Otherwise, great performance. Lag is gone. Heck, I hate to say it, but I'm getting better performance out of stock than I did with Nexesque ROM and that ROM was great under JB.
Very happy with this release.
is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?
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I concur with Modernmidnights assessment with the exception of Swype. I haven't used it since I purchased Swiftkey. Like that so much better.
My con was the popping noise, but that's fixed now with the fix that @kabaldan gave us. You can get that here:
http://d-h.st/vre
Otherwise, great performance. Lag is gone. Heck, I hate to say it, but I'm getting better performance out of stock than I did with Nexesque ROM and that ROM was great under JB.
Very happy with this release.
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I'm also using Swiftkey, started before Swype was a feature for the AOSP keyboard (at least I think so, else I didn't know how to enable it while looking for it). I have already even deleted the stock keyboard, lol. Come to think of it I remember when Swiftkey added Swype. Was a test of sorts, then it disappeared for about a week, I was so mad I sent a nastygram to them to which they responded that it'll be coming in an update and that it was just a beta test.
Popping noise... mind elaborating slightly? I'm wondering if it's the same popping noise I am getting with autovoice enabled for listening...
LifeAsADroid said:
Popping noise... mind elaborating slightly? I'm wondering if it's the same popping noise I am getting with autovoice enabled for listening...
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Rather than rehash it all, here is a link to a thread I started over in the Q&A forum about it and @kabaldan provided a newly compiled boot image that fixes it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761162
It seems to affect some, but not all phones, whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked.
My apologies for making you respond, I should have looked harder. Your topic describing the issue was almost right below this thread. I don't think that's what my issue is.
I've noticed many problems with the stock messaging app and with hangouts as well, so many I deleted them both and switched to Go SMS pro.
Sigh, hearing there is another update from Motorola on the way makes me sad, I've customized the phone so much since the update I don't want to go back to stock and do it all over again.
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xubeiga said:
is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?
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The latest motorola phone can do that because they have a dedicated , very low power processor for it , if we did this on our phone , it would ruin the battery life.
the closest you ca, achieve , is with nova launcher, you can program it to respond to "ok google" when you are on the main screen.
xubeiga said:
is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?
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Google Now is already on the phone. Now, if you want it to launch from the launcher, then at this point, no. The Google Now Launcher is not available for this phone (yet).
However, as another poster stated, you can get the latest Nova Launcher and it has the ability to respond to "Ok Google" from the desktop.
Or, if one is rooted, use the Xposed module OK Google For Third Party Launchers and enable everything (all apps, EVERYTHING) within. Now I can use "OK Google" to launch Google Now from any application or screen (except for the lockscreen... still working on that one...)
Took about 5 minutes to go through all 150+ apps to enable them all, but worth it.
Another question for all:
Has anyone tried using the Moto Skip yet after upgrading to 4.4.2? I found the apk online (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-skip-apk-t2416837 check post #4)
It installed just fine and ran when entered from settings --> security, but I haven't actually tested it yet since I don't have any NFC tags on hand. Might see if I can pick up NFC tags to see if it works.
Little by little, changing this phone into a "Moto X Mini" lol. Let's call it Moto X Dragon, it sounds cooler 8) lol
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Or, if one is rooted, use the Xposed module OK Google For Third Party Launchers and enable everything (all apps, EVERYTHING) within. Now I can use "OK Google" to launch Google Now from any application or screen (except for the lockscreen... still working on that one...)
Took about 5 minutes to go through all 150+ apps to enable them all, but worth it.
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but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?
xubeiga said:
but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?
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just did it with nova launcher it works.
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but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?
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Worked for me. Using "OK Google" command on the stock 4.4.2 Motorola launcher and the Xposed OK Google module.
billycar11 said:
just did it with nova launcher it works.
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Worked for me. Using "OK Google" command on the stock 4.4.2 Motorola launcher and the Xposed OK Google module.
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you gotta be kidding me!!
seriously? lol i would love to have that.
just waiting the update here in Brazil, and waiting for the phone arrives. (grrr why does it take soo longggg -_- it actually passed only 4 days since i bought it and the max prize is 13/06 but I WANT ITTTTTTTTTTT NOWW)
Motorola Moto HD? hahah
modernmidnight said:
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
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Did you know that Google keyboard works with KitKat, and is a marvelous substitute for Swype, with regard to gesture typing? And it's free. Get it in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.inputmethod.latin
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Did you know that Google keyboard works with KitKat, and is a marvelous substitute for Swype, with regard to gesture typing? And it's free. Get it in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.inputmethod.latin
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As someone who has used Google Keyboard, Swype, and Swiftkey all quite a bit, Google Keyboard's gesture typing isn't as good as the other two.
I still use it, but that might be a dealbreaker for some people.
killrhythm09 said:
As someone who has used Google Keyboard, Swype, and Swiftkey all quite a bit, Google Keyboard's gesture typing isn't as good as the other two.
I still use it, but that might be a dealbreaker for some people.
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Well, I'm sure you have heard what they say about gift horses and their mouths...
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I love it since I have root.
Things I love:
-Quicker to launch applications
-No lag, or hold ups
-The new pull down menu is a lot better.
-The lock screen and the ability to to take a picture while locked is very nice.
-Battery life seems to be better.
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
Overall, great update!
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Google Keyboard has a swype alternative that's free
Please excuse my lateness lol
I think personally, the OS is a lot snappier but there are a lot of bugs that are still present in the final release thought, I haven't had the popping noise sound but I have encountered soft reboots when I boot the phone with headphones in, it does lag a little sometimes but that's due to lack or ram. I love wireless printing, and read receipts. Would love art runtime if more apps were compatible with it. I'm just glad to have it. Having an locked bootloader isn't that great, the first Razr Maxx HD I had was and that was lovely, but I digress. Daydream is kind of useless to me. I am a battery converservationists. The multiple home launcher selector was well worth the wait. I can run Nova Launcher or the Google Now Launcher whenever I want to. Another drawback is that I can't write anything to the SD card unless it's with a system app now. Battery life is decent, I get a full day of heavy usage everyday. Which is the reason I purchased the phone, battery life. After a few days of running KitKat the random battery drain stopped for me.
i'm now on JB rooted, and i've change my font to playful. If i update to kitkat, will i lost my font? coz i realy love the font :crying:
Just a PSA for all you guys. If you go into the google search settings, tap voice, enable audio history, then set up the OK google training, there's an option for having it listen when the screen is off.
This basically works by using s voice to set up the OK google command, then instead of launching s voice when the command is heard, it launches google now. It works pretty seamlessly and (as far as I can tell) as good as the Moto X.
aooga said:
Just a PSA for all you guys. If you go into the google search settings, tap voice, enable audio history, then set up the OK google training, there's an option for having it listen when the screen is off.
This basically works by using s voice to set up the OK google command, then instead of launching s voice when the command is heard, it launches google now. It works pretty seamlessly and (as far as I can tell) as good as the Moto X.
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thats great news! I really enjoy using that with Nova on my M8, and was hoping it would work on the Note 4.
wase4711 said:
thats great news! I really enjoy using that with Nova on my M8, and was hoping it would work on the Note 4.
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You mean nova launcher? Or is this something that I don't know about? The Note 4 does this like the Moto X with that extra "chip" in the processor.
aooga said:
Just a PSA for all you guys. If you go into the google search settings, tap voice, enable audio history, then set up the OK google training, there's an option for having it listen when the screen is off.
This basically works by using s voice to set up the OK google command, then instead of launching s voice when the command is heard, it launches google now. It works pretty seamlessly and (as far as I can tell) as good as the Moto X.
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How's the battery life with it enabled?
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scoobrel said:
How's the battery life with it enabled?
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No different. It's just like the Moto X in that it uses a separate low power core to listen for that command.
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You mean nova launcher? Or is this something that I don't know about? The Note 4 does this like the Moto X with that extra "chip" in the processor.
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yeah, nova launcher enables that on the M8, and I really got used to using it!
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No different. It's just like the Moto X in that it uses a separate low power core to listen for that command.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.
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No different. It's just like the Moto X in that it uses a separate low power core to listen for that command.
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Not true, I'm noticing my phone won't go into deep sleep with it on.
It does work with OK Google.
But if you use a custom phrase, that works to wake up the phone but doesn't work on the home screen.
So there you still have to say OK Google.
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Not true, I'm noticing my phone won't go into deep sleep with it on.
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It might be another app that's doing that. The 805 chip has a dedicated always listening chip. The entire point is for it to not affect the battery. Use it the entire day and see if you really get any worse battery life than with it off. I can assure you you won't.
aooga said:
Just a PSA for all you guys. If you go into the google search settings, tap voice, enable audio history, then set up the OK google training, there's an option for having it listen when the screen is off.
This basically works by using s voice to set up the OK google command, then instead of launching s voice when the command is heard, it launches google now. It works pretty seamlessly and (as far as I can tell) as good as the Moto X.
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Thanks for the tip, I would've never found out about it. Awesome little feature.
aooga said:
It might be another app that's doing that. The 805 chip has a dedicated always listening chip. The entire point is for it to not affect the battery. Use it the entire day and see if you really get any worse battery life than with it off. I can assure you you won't.
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Absolutely correct. .. here is a good read if you would like to know about 805 that you are using:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/audio
What type of commands do you all use for this?
barfingmonkey said:
What type of commands do you all use for this?
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basic stuff like "call____"
"message______"
"email_____"
"listen to ______"
here's a link with tons of other stuff you can say to it..
http://www.greenbot.com/article/2359684/a-list-of-all-the-ok-google-voice-commands.html
Cool, thanks
Not OK Google
I can't get my voice training to work. When I get to the screen where it prompts me to say "OK Google" 4 times to train it, after I press the Mic button it never registers my voice... just sits there at 0/4 attempts. I have rebooted, etc.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
robroy90 said:
I can't get my voice training to work. When I get to the screen where it prompts me to say "OK Google" 4 times to train it, after I press the Mic button it never registers my voice... just sits there at 0/4 attempts. I have rebooted, etc.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Have you by chance disabled the s-voice app?
when the screen is off and i say ok google, the sound pop up but the screen stay off and it doesn't search. when i turned on the screen it just say (say ok google or tap mic)
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Have you by chance disabled the s-voice app?
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THANK YOU! I went into the S-Voice settings (because I had done nothing with it since getting the phone) and first went through all the configuration of S-Voice. Left that app, went back into it and turned all of the S-Voice features off, and then went back to the Google Search settings and into the Voice portion. I then was able to train OK Google the required 4 times. It now works great. Uttering an "OK Google" with the screen off (and locked) will invoke it. Works just like I have wanted it to ever since I saw the feature on the Moto X and was always frustrated I couldn't have it on a better phone!
So guys your saying that ok google depends on svoice still? In other words of you freeze svoice with titanium backup, "Ok Google" command will not work with the screen off? Can someone check please?
Many of you already know that Samsung or Google, neither is taking full credit has removed the ok Google from any screen option. This is utter bull crap. The fact that our phone is being crippled without any explanation or reasoning is unacceptable. we as the Android community need to be loud about this. Whether you use the Service or not isn't the issue. You should at least have the option. We need to be loud about this. Bombard them with our inquiry as to why this feature is no longer there. Below is a few links to get you started. I'm still working on finding a direct contact number for Google so that we can call them. the squeaky wheel gets the oil!
https://www.change.org/p/google-inc-restore-ok-google-from-any-screen-options
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!category-topic/websearch/issue-search/xGiV6D4PMS8
I frankly couldn't care less about that feature but I understand your concerns. I'm pretty sure Google will eventually return the feature after they make some tweaks.
msavic6 said:
I frankly couldn't care less about that feature but I understand your concerns. I'm pretty sure Google will eventually return the feature after they make some tweaks.
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To me it's like is suddenly Gmail no longer had a spam folder. yes you still have gmail. and it essentially function the same. But a feature, and maybe a key feature to some people is removed and its only for one particular phone. now it's already been established that spam folder works just fine. But without any reason or explanation its just gone. most people wouldn't care. just a few more emails you have to delete. But to the few that really want it it's a big deal.
I Drive a lot. A lot of us do. And that hands-free experience of okay Google is essential. It actually might become a deal breaker for me. its not there yet but it might be . let's hope I don't have to make that decision and google just fixes this
Your problem is not a Google problem. You will be barking up the wrong tree. Install Nova launcher and see for yourself. It is Touchwiz that is lacking the feature. Talk to Samsung about it.
BCSC said:
Your problem is not a Google problem. You will be barking up the wrong tree. Install Nova launcher and see for yourself. It is Touchwiz that is lacking the feature. Talk to Samsung about it.
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Samsung can't remove it. And didn't. They may have influenced Google to do it but google is the only one that could turn that feature off. Remember, it was on for the first few weeks. Then it was randomly turned off with out any app update or software.
What a logic. If a different launcher brings it back, it's Samsung's fault, otherwise it's Google's fault.
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Your problem is not a Google problem. You will be barking up the wrong tree. Install Nova launcher and see for yourself. It is Touchwiz that is lacking the feature. Talk to Samsung about it.
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I don't think you understand how the feature is supposed to work. Turning Nova's feature on only gives you listening when you're on a home page. The full Google feature listens from any screen, no matter the app (and from screen off if you're plugged in).
Nova's feature was rolled out before Google's came to all devices and they're not really related.
That the feature is missing has nothing to do with the launcher.
This is a pretty big issue. I suspect the latest update broke it. I liked having the "From any screen" and from a locked screen feature.
Humm looks like a Samsung tweak to me and coincides with the battery drain fix we got through Samsung Services app. I'm really not a fan of always on Hot words and the like id rather my device was saving its battery than slamming its self listening for a word.
The choice should be their though but my guess is the battery hit just wasnt worth it for the very small number of users who want / need the feature. as other have said new launcher or root/rom and fix the problem yourself
Chances of Samsung "Fixing" this very very very very very very small.
ADZ
Samsung definitely removed it. Just got my phone last Thursday and I had the option on the phone, as soon as I received the Samsung push for the battery drain it was gone.
I personally couldn't care less about it but hey, if you need it you need it. I don't feel as my phone is "crippled " , didn't even notice it.
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I've actually started using S-Voice now (don't kill me) and it's actually really nice. The fact that I can activate it from the lockscreen with the screen off, NOT charging, is a big win too.
¿Will-it-Blend? said:
I've actually started using S-Voice now (don't kill me) and it's actually really nice. The fact that I can activate it from the lockscreen with the screen off, NOT charging, is a big win too.
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Hotward detection while the screen is off is the one feature I miss most from the Nexus 6.
JLishere said:
Hotward detection while the screen is off is the one feature I miss most from the Nexus 6.
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I would give S voice a try. I'm liking it more than I thought I would. It's just on par with Google in speed and it has more functionality.
Perhaps i am weird (or maybe its working in an office), but i have never had the urge to yell at my phone to search.. or do things.... Ill admit i have used my wear to do some texts in the car, but even then i feel pretty silly.
That said, i am not a fan of removing features, but i also air on the side of caution. If an update removed it, i would suspect it was for a cause less nefarious than an evil samsung, and more likely to fix a bug or battery issue. But till we hear something official, its only really guessing...
I'm really ticked off about it. I left my Moto X 2014 for the S6 because of the camera. I probably wouldn't have if I had known that I wouldn't have the full Google Voice functionality on this phone; I typically use Google Voice to interact with my phone several times a day. What really gets me upset is that I didn't realize it until the DAY AFTER my 2 week return period... Luckily, I have a Moto 360 that I can use Google Voice with. This was a crappy move by Samsung. I hope they bring it back.
Google now from any screen fix
Hi Guys, as its one of the features I use a lot especially when driving I uploaded a YouTube video showing a work around
Link below. Hope it helps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztPR_zXObJc
Cheers.
It works in Nova launcher now from any home screen. No widget needed.
Japultra said:
It works in Nova launcher now from any home screen. No widget needed.
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Works on Apex too, under advanced settings
Japultra said:
It works in Nova launcher now from any home screen. No widget needed.
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Painless001 said:
Works on Apex too, under advanced settings
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Those are not what the thread is referring to. OP is referring to "OK Google" from any screen (not just launcher home screens) - for instance, you could trigger Ok Google while in Gmail, Maps, etc - any app really, without needing to go back to Nova or Apex.
i'm so not impressed. I can't see any added value this brings, or really what is its purpose. It takes longer to do something than manually. Its another S-Voice. Am I alone?
ekerbuddyeker said:
i'm so not impressed. I can't see any added value this brings, or really what is its purpose. It takes longer to do something than manually. Its another S-Voice. Am I alone?
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I totally agree with you. After day or so playing with it I think is waste of hardware on Samsung end.
On Edge of Galaxy
I don't like it either.
Samsung should release a dating assistant, and call it SHAGSBY!
Anyone find that it causes massive lag on the phone if you use it? I had to reboot it after half a day because it brought it to a crawl. Now that I disabled it, it is back to normal.
My problem has been, Bixby voice just pops up out of no where recording me... which is strange because it has to be activated with "Hi Bixby" which isn't exactly easy to say mid sentence like "Hey Siri" can be activated by saying "Hey Im serious" I am disabling Bixby again, until they get this fixed. Samsung is already known to record audio with their TV's, I do not need another device secretly recording me.
I used PACKAGE DISABLER PRO to completely disable everything Bixby. What a complete waste of time that app is.
kc2kzz said:
Anyone find that it causes massive lag on the phone if you use it? I had to reboot it after half a day because it brought it to a crawl. Now that I disabled it, it is back to normal.
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What services or apps do I need to disable it completely?
Thank you