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HTC did it again?

I think HTC messed up the fans again.
I hope these are only rumors and this phone will be a mid range phone...
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-M4-arriving-in-June-with-metal-alloy-chassis_id42128

This is either obviously fake or a mid-range device... it dosent even have the dual speakers (boom sound) and it has the older 3 buttons like the OneX.

avatar_ro said:
I think HTC messed up the fans again.
I hope these are only rumors and this phone will be a mid range phone...
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-M4-arriving-in-June-with-metal-alloy-chassis_id42128
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M4 has always been rumoured to be a mid-ranged phone dude!

M4 will be the One S replacement has a mid range phone.
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thank you guys... i got angry for a bit
moderator please close the thread. thank you

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thank you guys... i got angry for a bit
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Why should you be angry.. If they release another flagship in 6 months, good for us. Sell the current one and buy new one. Simple
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Actually, that looks like a low-end phone for the MVNO's or emerging markets.
This looks like a mid-range phone.
HTC had three devices released at the same time last year (One X, One S, One V) so to make their 2013 numbers it only makes sense for them to continue adding new phones to their range.

Well they already said that we gonna get only 1 high range. And it is fiiine.

That M4 render majors it look cheaper than any of the competition. I wouldn't buy it.
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Definitely a low end phone, they shouldn't be worrying about another flagship phone when I am still waiting for my developer version.

Doesn't that look like the HTC First?

I really hope they don't mess it up by launching a One+ in 6 months.
This is their main problem (ok maybe 2nd after marketing), if you buy an HTC flagship phone you know that after half a year you no longer have the best of HTC (sensation XE, XL, Onex+, Onexl...)
Samsung & Apple don't have this problem.
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The phone in the pictures is the HTC E1 (603e) which is a lower mid-range Chinese market phone:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/15/htc-e1-custom-china/

Looks like a mini dna, probably we wont see it around here

eskargoz said:
I really hope they don't mess it up by launching a One+ in 6 months.
This is their main problem (ok maybe 2nd after marketing), if you buy an HTC flagship phone you know that after half a year you no longer have the best of HTC (sensation XE, XL, Onex+, Onexl...)
Samsung & Apple don't have this problem.
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You want HTC to stop innovating or stop producing faster phones even when they can, due to improved binning, just so that you can always have the latest phone?
That sir, is ridiculous.
Perhaps they should make it two years before releasing new models as that is now a typical contract length and European warranty length?
Or three years, because let's face it, who likes spending money?

BenPope said:
You want HTC to stop innovating or stop producing faster phones even when they can, due to improved binning, just so that you can always have the latest phone?
That sir, is ridiculous.
Perhaps they should make it two years before releasing new models as that is now a typical contract length and European warranty length?
Or three years, because let's face it, who likes spending money?
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Exactly all these people complaining about companies releasing new phones. If you can't afford don't buy, it's not that companies have to release phones according to some ones buying habits. There are always people shopping for new phones in different seasons, so companies have to release new phones to be relevant. The htc one 6 months down the line will be an outdated phone. I can easily see an updated version of One with Snapdragon 800 may be.

BenPope said:
You want HTC to stop innovating or stop producing faster phones even when they can, due to improved binning, just so that you can always have the latest phone?
That sir, is ridiculous.
Perhaps they should make it two years before releasing new models as that is now a typical contract length and European warranty length?
Or three years, because let's face it, who likes spending money?
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I don't think we can call the Sensation XE and One XL innovative phones and it's not only a matter of personal preference, I don't think I am the only one in this case.
Last year HTC admitted they launched too many phones and people got lost in all the different versions.
In the end it's a problem of strategy; Apple and Samsung have a simple offer (at least with the flagship devices), which is easier to advertise and apparently easier to sell.

Mystery solved.
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Taiwanese smartphone maker HTC will begin promoting its new customizable E1 phone in China, our sister newspaper Commercial Times reports.
Chinese customers will have the option to customize their phone through HTC's website with a variety of accessories including its case and the color of its phone charger, and also amend its features such as the phone's RAM and camera resolution.
HTC China estimates that the E1 will have the highest performance value among the company's smartphone range, with its price ranging from 1,700 to 1,899 yuan (US$275-$310).
The Taoyuan-based company has boosted its market share in mainland China over the past year, but its higher range models still lag behind rivals Apple and Samsung.
The E1 will reportedly sport a 1.15 GHz dual-core processor, 4.3-inch WVGA screen, dual SIM cards and 2100mAh battery. Custom options will include the phones built-in storage (8GB or 16GB), main camera (five or eight megapixels) and one of the six body colors plus patterns.

OnePlus Two Rumors

Just saw this on GSMA. Specs don't seem to be the biggest upgrade and that price is significantly higher than what we paid for the One.
Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/resellers_start_listing_oneplus_two_months_before_launch-news-10377.php

This version of the phone was at the coolicool site for more than a month!
Simply gsmarena found it yesterday!

yeah I saw the news today as well on several source,
Was hoping they will start to use SD 810, and possibly make the memory convention at least 4gb, to cater for at least 64bit memory space of usable space 2gb max.
I wonder what kinda project their operating system will be based on since they going to do if its not CyanogenMod, it will be one of the biggest challenge they will face especially for user who likes to have their own custom rom.

Four GB of ram on a phone is 100% unnecessary at least for now. Cyanogenmod may still work with them in future we do not know for sure. Even if there is no cm 'S' series firmware available in the future, most likely it will come in nightlies as regular builds.

I keep seeing price estimates of $550 and if that is USD, then I think they are making a big mistake (ala Nexus 6 by Google). To me, I saw the point of this phone as something similar to the Nexus 4/5 - a phone that offered a lot at a favourable price over the competition.
From a Canadian perspective at least, a price of $550 USD will mean an end price of around $780 CDN after shipping, currency conversion (which is at about 16.5% right now) and taxes on delivery. That's nearly $300 more than it is for the OnePlus One (which runs about $500 CDN depending on the province you are in). I can't see anyone up here wanting to go that route since it is the same range as every other Android flagship (which run between $600-$700 plus tax) and unless things improve drastically on the customer support front, there is still a lot more risk and hassle buying a phone from OPO than going to your local mall and picking up a phone. If they get as good as say Google is with the Nexus phones (I had easy RMA experiences with them numerous times with the Nexus 4 and 5 where I got brand new phones in about a week) then that may change my opinion.
Of course, Canada may not be a huge market for them and it's not like our weak dollar is their problem but I think they are selling quite a few OPO's here now and that market I can easily see drying up real fast if they raise the price that much. Thought I thought the same for the Nexus 6 as well and maybe that is selling well in Canada despite it being twice the cost of the Nexus 5.

I believe users who bought opo were looking for an upgrade to nexus 5 or bigger phone then nexus 5, but thought nexus 6 was either too big or too expensive lol. If opo releases one plus two that's significantly more expensive, I see even less people taking a risk on this manufacturer in the future
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No body would buy it for that price anyway.... Why would someone buy a Chinese phone for high brands prices
The note 4 would be a better choice..

OnePlus had an AMA today and said they were still using the same business plan of small profit margins. The price would only go up if suppliers raised prices.
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hussam1988 said:
No body would buy it for that price anyway.... Why would someone buy a Chinese phone for high brands prices
The note 4 would be a better choice..
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I second this... And if these specs from the link on OP are true (since these are just rumors), I will most likely not be getting the OnePlus Two; totally not worth it. I really hope these rumors are fake, or I'll be going back to HTC as my next phone.
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Here is the latest from the rumor mill:
5.5-inch QHD display size
Snapdragon 810
4GB RAM
3,300mAh battery
Android 5.0
RMB2,699 yuan ($435)
Source: Gizchina
Via: gsmarena.com
This looks better and more probable than the rumor linked in the OP.
It may also have dual-sim capability and an SD card slot:
A still image allegedly taken from a OnePlus promotional video, supposedly shows a device that might be the next phone offered by the upstart manufacturer. The photo reveals a device that supports dual SIM cards and has a microSD slot.
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Source: Phone Arena
If this is true (and it's a big if), I sure hope that dual SIM is an option since it would make developing custom ROMs nearly impossible.

Previous discussion in the below thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2991127

gsmyth said:
Previous discussion in the below thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2991127
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Actually, not. This thread is a month older than that one and is more appropriately titled.

CafeKampuchia said:
Actually, not. This thread is a month older than that one and is more appropriately titled.
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Sorry your right, saw yours as a new thread for some reason.

Just read the latest on the OnePlus Two. Not sure if it's legit but a reseller put it online. Check OnePlus Two Revealed?

mesang said:
Just read the latest on the OnePlus Two. Not sure if it's legit but a reseller put it online. Check OnePlus Two Revealed?
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I think it's a chinesse copy.

sergialess said:
I think it's a chinesse copy.
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Think it's fake as well!

Just read the latest on the OnePlus Two. Not sure if it's legit but a reseller put it online. Check OnePlus Two Revealed?
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Looks like an awful hybrid of the OPO and the Yotaphone..

So OnePlusOne is using the SnapDragon 810 v2.1 ...... But I want the new SnapDragon 820?

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So OnePlusOne is using the SnapDragon 810 v2.1 ...... But I want the new SnapDragon 820?
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You'll probably have to hold out for the LG G4 Pro then, as this rumoured device supposedly features this chip. It sounds like it could be a great handset, hopefully its smaller than 5.7" though, I think 5.5" is the max size for a phone, anything bigger and you might as well get a tablet.

I heard OnePlus is gona push the boundary and introduced the worlds first smartphone with 10k screen and a PPI of 1,000 :cyclops:

[Q] Where do we go next from the OPO?

I can't seem to desire any other phone. I love the display, I love the size. Speed is good. Battery is very good (running stock CM). Not to mention the price.
Also - I love the hardware buttons (I think software buttons - like in the nexus 6p for example - are a waste of screen real estate).
Anyone upgraded and was happy doing so?

I'm in the same boat as you, my phone is almost 2 years old now but i feel no need to upgrade. Unless you live in a area with faster than 150mbs lte, want a finger print scanner, or a crystal clear screen, i would just keep it until the op4.

Had the One for just over a year now and don't feel the need for an upgrade. When I do end up upgrading this phone, it will not be another OnePlus device. The 2 and X have shown little improvements as successors to the One. There will be better options when the time comes

The OPO really opened me up to the modding capabilities of android. As so many people had grabbed the phone and experimented, there was lots of support. CyanogenMod was a key factor in my decision to get it, and I agree with @kenboyles72 : The 2 and X haven't improved enough for me to want to upgrade.
Also, there's nothing wrong with the OPO, even two years old. It still outperforms most of my mates devices

will be a better unit. BUT not that too soon.
opo will be still outstanding unit at least few more years.
Used to handle HTC models prior to opo
really appreciated opo unit.
appropriate in many ways.

I'm going to wait for the OnePlus 3 to see what it has in store, and if the price is high or it doesn't impress me with it's design and such, I'm going with the Xiaomi Mi5. I mean 4GB of RAM, Snapdragon 820, Fingerprint Scanner, Marshmallow, Good Camera, Awesome design and 64GB of storage for ~700AUD, I'm sold.

Vekhez said:
I'm going to wait for the OnePlus 3 to see what it has in store, and if the price is high or it doesn't impress me with it's design and such, I'm going with the Xiaomi Mi5. I mean 4GB of RAM, Snapdragon 820, Fingerprint Scanner, Marshmallow, Good Camera, Awesome design and 64GB of storage for ~700AUD, I'm sold.
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Is it bootloader unlocked? Or do you plan on staying on stock for several months hoping for some AOSP support only to switch again? Most of the time it's better to wait and see how popular a device is before buying as the more popular a device is the more likely it is to get a good development scene
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Renosh said:
Is it bootloader unlocked? Or do you plan on staying on stock for several months hoping for some AOSP support only to switch again? Most of the time it's better to wait and see how popular a device is before buying as the more popular a device is the more likely it is to get a good development scene
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Boot loader is locked and honestly I don't care. I don't care what Android skin I use, everyone makes a big fuss about oh I can use this and ew Touchwiz and what not and honestly I don't care. I use Google Messenger for texting, Snapchat, Reddit and Facebook Messenger. I'd be lucky to make an hour of phone calls a week. I install Google Now Launcher on the device and an icon pack, the main interaction I have with MIUI is the status bar and recents apps menu. Like looking at this, you wouldn't even know it was MIUI underneath.
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OP3 or whatever ~5" Nexus device(s) come out this year.

Went to a Nexus 5x already, but keep leaning back to the OPO that's still lying around.

After The opo will be useless at 2018 i will looking into new battery techs

i was thinking to Nexus 6p, but I've see now the 820's snapdragon devices.... So I think I will wait for sure the next Nexus, if it will be nice i will buy that... And obviously, have a look to opo4

I'm waiting on the note 6... after it gets a custom recovery.

One plus 3 ( if specifications equal or above opo ).

Maybe mi5 when price drops or Next Nexus, opo is still uncomparable as price/quality ratio

Using this thing until it is too slow to use day to day...did this with my HTC g2 and m7. When they start to lag behind too much and battery dies too often, it was upgrade time. I always make sure lots of memory is free for performance.
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thus is cool but i am worried if there is hope of android o for us with this one or any good custom roms or any new holy **** kernels as i donot see dev with opo2 then what with opo3 opo 4 will dim

S7 Edge on Tmobile's buy one get one free deal.

I was just browsing the subforum and happened to come across this. I personally own the X which is essentially a more compact One with an AMOLED screen and expandable storage.
I would say keep the One. It's a great phone and if you compare performance of the X to the one, I'd say that there isn't a reason for you to upgrade to anything at all. If you must, go for the X. It's really a side grade if anything as both devices level one another out on terms of HW, but in all honesty, keep what you have. You guys have the best ROMs, the best revision of the 801, and the best kernels after all. Enjoy what you have.

I've had inconsistent performance with the GPS on my OPO. I'm really tempted to get a 5X now that it's $200 (plus that first month of service, right?). Didn't know how important the GPS would be to me.

Google Pixel

I just heard about the upcoming Google Pixel, it sounds extremely promising, and also looks like a really nice phone. Any opinions from the N4 community? I'd opt for Pixel XL as it's a 5.5 in screen similar to my N4. I may have found my next upgrade...
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Stupidly expensive and horrible looking phone. Looks exactly like an iPhone. The body at the top and bottom of it is to much empty space. The specs are not all the cracked up to be... Google done F'd up.. LG V20 for president.

Agree, google f'd this one up. Wait for black friday and score yourself a 6p for much less (which is just as capable and a better phone IMO).

I don't get the fragile partial glass back on Pixel. I think Google over estimated the value of the phone.
Samsung and Google want to emulate Apple and sell expensive phones that haven't earned the loyalty of consumers.
I watched the Google launch and they lost me at cloud storage. Unlimited free storage for pictures and video is note worthy compared to Apple but just not reasonable with limited onboard memory. Google didn't listen if they thought Americans were willing to pay top dollar for 128 GB of storage when Apple in fact opted for 256 GB max tier storage; failed again.
IMO, Pixel should have tried harder to be an Android phone rather than an Apple phone. I for one feel inhibited from supporting the Apple design of sealed battery, fixed memory with monetary steps in memory when a micro sdcard would economically solve memory needs. For my money, the phone must offer unlocked bootloader or unlock support on subsidized phone purchased through carrier on contract. Like the Note 4, I'm still looking for a phone with root capability, removable battery and expandable storage. Sadly, no Android phone available on Sprint ticks all the boxes that I'm aware of? A compromise may be HTC for me?
The OP didn't ask about the V20 but here's my thoughts on it anyway since it was mentioned in prior post. The LG V20 is akin to Note 4's design. What worries me about it is that LG adopted Samsung's approach to forcing Enterprise phones on all users; no unlocked bootloaders on Sprint phones since last year. They opened a developer supported bootloader unlocking site but it forces users to buy the European variant of the phone. LG V20 is yet to be included on that site and they've said there are no plans to make the phone available in Europe. At any rate it presents an expensive prospect to have a phone Sprint users can root because this tactic forces Sprint subscribers to buy it from manufacturer rather than on contract for those that still have grandfathered plans.
Other concerns with LG is a sudden and fatal reboot that results in continual bootloops on LG phones going back to G4 and impacting V10 and G5 phones. It also impacted Nexus phones made by LG in that era.
The G5 also got bad reviews for LCD display light leakage at edges and murky blacks.
Arguably, LG V20 is not the previous models and its display, while still LG LCD, is claimed to be updated tech with quantum dot IPS LCD display. The phone may be delayed in the US until November. Hopefully by then we'll know more about the unknowns of the V20. I'd be willing to risk a purchase of the Sprint variant if bootloader could be developer unlocked for root. Root voiding a warranty may not be so evident if the phone cannot be recovered from bootloops when presented for exchange.
The choices for some in this forum may be difficult to duplicate what we have in a 2014 phone. Sad. I wish Samsung would continue to support the Note 4 with OS updates. Android Nougat would be a nice gesture but not in their business interest unless they recognize potential loss of loyalty with current offerings. Doubtful they see it my way.
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I second that.
IMO, All these newer flagship phones are way over priced. I can buy a decent laptop for @ same price.
And if I'm gonna pay $400-800 for a phone, I expect it to be unlocked, sd card, &replaceable battery.
The whole note 7 problem would have been avoided with something as simple as a replaceable battery.
I know I'm a little off topic so as for the pixel. I think it's a beautiful phone but it lacks features I'd expect. And i agree that it looks like they imitated the iphone. Why, I ask?

SaintZ93 said:
Stupidly expensive and horrible looking phone. Looks exactly like an iPhone. The body at the top and bottom of it is to much empty space. The specs are not all the cracked up to be... Google done F'd up.. LG V20 for president.
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LG has a developer site that has yet to include LG V20. I asked about Sprint LG V20 variant bootloader unlocking; undetermined. There's a contact link at bottom of this page. I think all interested users should send an email requesting support.
https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryTypeCode=ANRS
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OnePlus is done selling its flagship 5T in North America

Guess the OnePlus 6 is right around the corner.
https://www.engadget.com/amp/2018/03/23/oneplus-5t-done-in-north-america/

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Guess the OnePlus 6 is right around the corner.
https://www.engadget.com/amp/2018/03/23/oneplus-5t-done-in-north-america/
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We are a little over two months away from the O6 if OnePlus sticks with their usual release schedule.
They just ran out of stock and it'd be too much money and time to continue replenishing stock for another 8 weeks

Lucky you you did not buy this phone, wait for One plus 6 , the same as one plus 5t but with a notch .

Why lucky... The Oneplus 5t is fantastic. You can always play the waiting game forever.

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Lucky you you did not buy this phone, wait for One plus 6 , the same as one plus 5t but with a notch .
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This is definitely not something I would call 'luckily", a 5T with a notch is not what I call beautiful.

Yep, hate "the notch". Not a little, a lot. I'd keep my money in my pocket for that reason alone. There is one other reason though, I've soured on the flagship phone drill. I have a Note 8 sitting in a drawer a few feet away. I stopped using it when they had the issue with OEM unlock going away and got this (5T) phone. What I found when I purchased this phone was that in some ways it's better, mostly it's a push, in some ways it's worse. That gets some clarity when you consider the pricing, this phone was just slightly more than half the price of that one and I in no way feeling like the better phone is in a drawer unused. If you ask me the truth is some people haven't figured out the flagship wars are over. Phones are becoming very good and performance is becoming an expected bottom line. Just to be clear, I'm not the only one that thinks this, the OEM's themselves are trying to get people hooked on ecosystems because performance is becoming a non issue. People expect their phone to be fast and work without issue no matter the price point making it hard to sell hardware, you have to sell the software and ecosystem.
Summation... I have bought one, two, sometimes three flagships a year since before android came out. Yeah, I came from windows mobile where the action was in the old days. Android upped the ante and I jumped on day one. I've got money to burn being old and having my retirement in the bank. I could keep right on buying several phones a year but I'm seeing little point. I never wait for anything on the phone now and the only way I can prove this phone is faster than the last one is if I run benchmarks. I'm off the treadmill and I've been thinking of doing it for a couple phones now but the 5T versus Note 8 comparison is what made it happen. There isn't much point anymore in throwing money at phones, I can always buy 500 dollar bottles of wine if I feel like burning money to no particular end at and least doing that will net me a hangover. The 6T having a notch is all I need to know, I throw my money elsewhere whenever something comes out which actually looks like an upgrade.

I think the notch looks nice to be honest. Can't wait for the OnePlus 6

I'm thinking about buying 5T. Pixel 2 doesn't seem like a good value compared to 5T, and Pixel gen 1 is a year older than OP5T at around the same price.
One major downside about the 5T is no project treble. From my understanding this means it won't be upgraded to Android P (because then they'd be mandated to implement treble.) Given the release date, it's sort of like OP5T purposely shipped with Nougat so they can claim it received at least one major update.
But like I said, for the money it's probably the best value right now. I'm interested in hearing what you guys think, particularly in regards to development and overall performance/stability of custom roms.
Without project treble do you think there's enough interest in this device to keep the Devs hanging around a couple of years?
I've gone through 3 phones in 3 years and would ideally like to keep my next phone for awhile. Thanks

guys if the only difference is the notch and 845 is it really worth the upgrade?
i mean P20 has a 40 MP RGB camera which will release next month, i love my 5T, the smoothest experience ive ever had period.
the camera is a let down and from what ive seen its been a let down for a while - i have the mate 10 pro before my 5T and the M10P had amazing cameras,with an overwhelming amount of modes to choose from, almost DSLR like.
i think its too early to decide, but if the only difference is the notch, and SD845 and a somewhat improved camera then i think i may jump on the P20 next as i take quiet a few pictures throughout the day. but its too early without all the specs available (memory / ram / sensor type and size / etc)
oneplus has left an impression on me, one that no other phone has before - but i think their camera game needs a massive re-haul, huawei got lucky with their Leica partnership.

Heyyy everyone. I was just going to buy Oneplus 5t but now I am a bit skeptical to buy it looking at comments regarding its camera performance. I have owned a oneplus 3 and never heard such bad things about it's camera, but oneplus 5t is not the same. Anyway does anyone of you have an idea about honor view 10 ? Have kept it as an option. I can't wait for oneplus 6 to launch as I need a phone on urgent basis

Yup, the 6 will have a notch...
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...and apparently a chin on the bottom bezel. I'm glad I have a 5T.
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