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My story is much and boring , but please endeavour to read and suggest solutions for me. Here goes the story: As a longtime iOS user, I decided to take android os on a spin, and after watching several reviews and much of info seeking, I decided to try out the sony coz I believe its the only android that has a quality build next to iPhones. I also considered other brands like samsung and htc,bt none suited my need(besides I hate samsung and touchwiz with passion?)
Anyways I decided to buy the xperia z3 but the its waaaay too expensive here in my country, so I traded-in my one-year old iPhone 5 and a samsung galaxy tab 3 8.0 that was given to me as a gift just to get xperia z2,coz i came to learn that it has no much difference with the z3, besides the z2 has a larger battery. And so I did, got the xperia z2 last week and I must admit, it looks gorgeous. The screen is awesome!! However, I'm still facing some issues that frustrates me all the time about this phone to an extent of making me regret buying the phone, but I'm hoping that I can get solutions to the problems so as to enjoy the phone to the fullest!! ?
1. Call quality issues: This is undoubtedly the most annoying one. My girlfriend always complain that she cant hear me well whenever we are talking on the phone,and that breaks my heart alot! I mean a buying such an adorable phone with a premium price tag and yet cant even enjoy a good call quality is a miss!! I did some research on the problem and learnt that its quite a common problem with the z2, and as a user on the forum suggested, I flashed the .314 (4.4.2) firmware on it and the problem has reduced a little bit, not completely thou. Its even worse on 4.4.4(which it came out with out of the box).
Q]Could it be a software related problem? Or perhaps hardware? Is there any workaround about it? Will the lollipop update fix this issue??
2. Camera: "xperia 2 has one of the best camera out there" as stated by many reviewers, but thats not true as far as I'm concerned. Yes it has a massive 20.7 mp but honestly I still miss the camera on iphone. The images z2 takes are somewhat blurry and has lots of noise, they aren't as crispy sharp as that taken by an iphone. Could have tempered with the manual mode, bt im not a photograph expert. Can someone walk me through? ☺
3. Battery: Well, I can't complain much about this coz z2 has the best battery on any smartphone iv ever owned. That said, when I got it the first few days, the power management estimated about 2 days of usage and I was super happy about that, now after few days it only shows 1 day at most. Could something have gone wrong?
4.Heating issues: Seems like this is one of the most complained about issue regarding the xperia z2. Even though I have not experienced any severe overheating case that will hinder its usage, the device still get warm on average usage and that feels abit uncomfortable to the palm. Although I understand it has a glass back panel so it will conduct much heat. Iv already ordered for a case, hopefully that will solve my heating problem.
Thats pretty much it guys. I hope I will get some solutions from you. Thanks
(PS: 1.Sorry about my english 2. I can't return the device back to place of purchase coz I got it from a local retailer. 3. And oh! Its the D6502 model running 4.4.2 .314)
Thanks
upgrade the firmware, there are lots of improvements
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upgrade the firmware, there are lots of improvements
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Like I mentioned above, it came with the latest firmware out of the box which has the worst call quality problem. So I had to downgrade to find ease. Reccomend any ftf specifically?
I think its an old update 4.4.4 is the latest
And by the way iphone is a different species compared to android so i think the hardware components is much more different thats why you can't find what iphone's cam to a xperia
On calls maybe it about the network
1. Call quality issues: Yes, this problem is there since the microfon is at the bottom of the phone. Its not a software problem, i also having the problem when talking with someone. The solution i made, talking with my hand covering the microfon OR i had to use a handsfree. This is Sony mistake of the build Z2(bottom microphone). Sad, theres no other solution.
2. Camera: Dont have much problem about the camera. Yeah, we have some people reported that the camera was abit lag from the previous sofware version, but the camera is still good and i dont have much problem about it. About the noise, i also dont hv so much problem. I can take picture well and ive compare my picture with my brother's iPhone 5s, and yet he said my picture taken from my Z2 is more better then his iphone.
3. Battery: Depend how u use your phone, but for me this device has the best battery life ever! Im also a heavy type user, but 1-2 days is already enough for me.
4.Heating issues: This is normal when u always playing games or multitasking with non-stop usage of ur phone. I dont experience this problem coz im not playing game with my phone.
I hope this will help you a little. :fingers-crossed:
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1. Call quality issues: Yes, this problem is there since the microfon is at the bottom of the phone. Its not a software problem, i also having the problem when talking with someone. The solution i made, talking with my hand covering the microfon OR i had to use a handsfree. This is Sony mistake of the build Z2(bottom microphone). Sad, theres no other solution.
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Really?? Never knew there could be another location for microphone apart from the bottom, except for the one above which is used for video recording. Pardon my noobness. So is bottom not the ideal location for a microphone?
With the call quality, I have experienced a lot of problems. Some say turning off noise suppression helps. Personally the best fix I have found is using a custom ROM (eXistenZ) as niaboc79 provided a fix what works (Sony, you could learn a lot from the community).
Re: Mic location. With how big the phone is it is stupid how low down Sony positioned the mic. A better place would have been next to the bottom speaker (the sides) or just above the bottom speaker. It really needs to be higher up and on the front side (like the low price phones they make)
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Really?? Never knew there could be another location for microphone apart from the bottom, except for the one above which is used for video recording. Pardon my noobness. So is bottom not the ideal location for a microphone?
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Sorry, i think u missunderstood what i mean actually. I cant explain it clearly to u, my english is so bad. Look at the Z3 main mic, at the front-bottom instead the Z2(bottom-bottom). The Z3 mic more closer to our mouth when we speak. So when talking on the phone, voice from the Z3 is more easily to be hear then the Z2. I hope this will explain, otherwise i need someone to help me. Sorry for my bad english. :fingers-crossed:
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Sorry, i think u missunderstood what i mean actually. I cant explain it clearly to u, my english is so bad. Look at the Z3 main mic, at the front-bottom instead the Z2(bottom-bottom). The Z3 mic more closer to our mouth when we speak. So when talking on the phone, voice from the Z3 is more easily to be hear then the Z2. I hope this will explain, otherwise i need someone to help me. Sorry for my bad english. :fingers-crossed:
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I think you explained it perfectly. I didn't realise the Z3 had this and that is what I was describing in my post before yours
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I think you explained it perfectly. I didn't realise the Z3 had this and that is what I was describing in my post before yours
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That microphone location on the Z3 likely due to complaints from the Z2 users. I think everyone including me didnt expect this the day we bought it. Right?
I had to turn off the noise suppression on my z2 as the volume is low as well.
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With the call quality, I have experienced a lot of problems. Some say turning off noise suppression helps. Personally the best fix I have found is using a custom ROM (eXistenZ) as niaboc79 provided a fix what works (Sony, you could learn a lot from the community).
Re: Mic location. With how big the phone is it is stupid how low down Sony positioned the mic. A better place would have been next to the bottom speaker (the sides) or just above the bottom speaker. It really needs to be higher up and on the front side (like the low price phones they make)
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Wow! i never thought anything will make me flash a custom rom on a snappy and fast ui like that of xperias(its fast and responsive ui is actually one of the reasons why i went for the sony)....but if doing so will bring an end to my nightmares then im all in.
Ok i have a few questions for you please coz i want to be sure im doing the right thing before i proceed....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...m-existenz-ultimate-1-0-5-light-dark-t2835196 this is the link to the right existenz rom right?
And the fix you were talking about,is it based on your personal experience or it was stated in the changelog?
If it happens im going to flash the rom,i will definitely need a backup,can you please suggest any automated way of doing so? coz i have lots of apps and apps data on the internal storage. I would prefer a general backup and restore that will return the phone contents to their former places like nothing has happened,
Thanks alot
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Wow! i never thought anything will make me flash a custom rom on a snappy and fast ui like that of xperias(its fast and responsive ui is actually one of the reasons why i went for the sony)....but if doing so will bring an end to my nightmares then im all in.
Ok i have a few questions for you please coz i want to be sure im doing the right thing before i proceed....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...m-existenz-ultimate-1-0-5-light-dark-t2835196 this is the link to the right existenz rom right?
And the fix you were talking about,is it based on your personal experience or it was stated in the changelog?
If it happens im going to flash the rom,i will definitely need a backup,can you please suggest any automated way of doing so? coz i have lots of apps and apps data on the internal storage. I would prefer a general backup and restore that will return the phone contents to their former places like nothing has happened,
Thanks alot
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That's the right ROM. The fix was first provided by niaboc79 in v3.1.0 (I think) or maybe it was an add on. Either way I flashed the file what contained the fix as people kept complaining they couldn't hear me. From then on I have had no problems at all, I think the fix was also included in every version since the fix was provided.
Titanium backup is by far the easiest way to backup your data. Back it all up to the external SD card (this can be done in tb. Menu>Preferences>Backup Folder Location>Navigate to the external SD card and create a new tb folder. Upon installation of the ROM you can install tb and then restore your backups (you may need to re-navigate to the tb backup folder in tb).
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That's the right ROM. The fix was first provided by niaboc79 in v3.1.0 (I think) or maybe it was an add on. Either way I flashed the file what contained the fix as people kept complaining they couldn't hear me. From then on I have had no problems at all, I think the fix was also included in every version since the fix was provided.
Titanium backup is by far the easiest way to backup your data. Back it all up to the external SD card (this can be done in tb. Menu>Preferences>Backup Folder Location>Navigate to the external SD card and create a new tb folder. Upon installation of the ROM you can install tb and then restore your backups (you may need to re-navigate to the tb backup folder in tb).
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Woow this is great. Thanks alot mate. I will flash at my leisure and report back.:good:
About the other caller not hearing you, if it doesn't work you should replace your phone, if you bought it new. I read that call quality was a problem in some earlier models,, the same problem that you and I experienced.
When I went to buy mine in the store, they had 2 available. I got one, put my sim card in it, and called someone, who told me that they can't hear me very well. Without leaving the store, because I wanted to return it right away, I tried disabling noise suppression, playing with the volumes, but nothing worked. I got the other available Z2, made a call, the other person said they could hear me fine, so I got that one. Unfortunately, this one also has problems, the lower speaker is distorting a bit at higher volumes (no sound mods), but I only found that out at home. I may replace it again someday.
So I say it's just poor build quality, and if the existenz rom doesn't work for you, you should try to get it replaced by the shop or Sony. We shouldn't be the ones trying to repair mistakes that Sony made. Nonetheless, I really love this phone.
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About the other caller not hearing you, if it doesn't work you should replace your phone, if you bought it new. I read that call quality was a problem in some earlier models,, the same problem that you and I experienced.
When I went to buy mine in the store, they had 2 available. I got one, put my sim card in it, and called someone, who told me that they can't hear me very well. Without leaving the store, because I wanted to return it right away, I tried disabling noise suppression, playing with the volumes, but nothing worked. I got the other available Z2, made a call, the other person said they could hear me fine, so I got that one. Unfortunately, this one also has problems, the lower speaker is distorting a bit at higher volumes (no sound mods), but I only found that out at home. I may replace it again someday.
So I say it's just poor build quality, and if the existenz rom doesn't work for you, you should try to get it replaced by the shop or Sony. We shouldn't be the ones trying to repair mistakes that Sony made. Nonetheless, I really love this phone.
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The thing is people can hear me talking but not can not get what im saying so they are always asking me to repeat myself and its super annoying ?. Just finished making a call with a friend and I had to yell before she could hear me, and that actually provoked me!!! I really regret buying this phone!!!!
As for returning it, I can't do that hear, no any sony store. Once bought its yours forever! What a piece of crap arrrghh!!!
PS. I dont think mine is the earlier model coz it shipped with 4.4.4 Not sure though
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The thing is people can hear me talking but not can not get what im saying so they are always asking me to repeat myself and its super annoying . Just finished making a call with a friend and I had to yell before she could hear me, and that actually provoked me!!! I really regret buying this phone!!!!
As for returning it, I can't do that hear, no any sony store. Once bought its yours forever! What a piece of crap arrrghh!!!
PS. I dont think mine is the earlier model coz it shipped with 4.4.4 Not sure though
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Several things you can try in order to understand the problem better:
Try a headset, just to see whether the problem is to do with the mic (software or hardware).
Try a recording software to see what it sounds like for yourself. Try different environments, noisy and quiet.
Try talking over Hangouts for example to see if the quality is any different.
There's a setting for the amount of noise suppression applied, try the quiet environment setting or turning it off completely.
I guess you are probably unlucky, as I've never had people complaining to me about the voice quality.
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Several things you can try in order to understand the problem better:
Try a headset, just to see whether the problem is to do with the mic (software or hardware).
Try a recording software to see what it sounds like for yourself. Try different environments, noisy and quiet.
Try talking over Hangouts for example to see if the quality is any different.
There's a setting for the amount of noise suppression applied, try the quiet environment setting or turning it off completely.
I guess you are probably unlucky, as I've never had people complaining to me about the voice quality.
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If tried recording with an app and it was superb so I suppose its not a hardware issue.
Anyways I have flashed the existenz rom and I'll be testing for the next couple days, although so far so good. I really hope lollipop update will bring a fix to this, sometimes I prefer to remain stock.
Call quality... I've never had anyone complain about not hearing me properly on mine so I can't help you. It could just be that you have a small head and so the mic placement at the very bottom doesn't help you at all lol.
Camera.... The superior auto mode is notoriously poor. It usually cranks up the iso and exposure producing very noisy photos. To get the best results, use it with manual controls. It's not difficult. You have the basic settings. Exposure, white balance or colour temperature, and iso.
For exposure, you can leave it at default most of the time only adjusting when really needed.
White balance has five options. Auto which I strongly recommend not using in daylight. Use the sunny or cloudy options.
The key really is ISO, this is where the auto mode does most of its damage by cranking the value way to high.
Under daylight and florescent lighting, use the lowest value of 50 mostly but no higher than 100. For incandescent lighting say coming from a bulb or lamp, use iso 200. ISO is basically the sensors sensitivity to light, the higher this value the more luminescent noise is present. In general, never go above 400 unless you're in a really dark room and don't want to use the flash. And when you use 400 it's advisable to drop the exposure value down a notch or two or three lol
Its really simple, just play around with the settings. In order words adjust them until what you see in the viewfinder closely resembles the scene you're trying to take.
Unfortunately the Sony auto software doesn't come anywhere close to that on the iPhone but with manual controls, it spanks the iPhone. It's a great camera especially on 4.4.4 which I recommend you return to. Maybe hold the phone higher up when calling so your mouth is closer to the mic.
Overheating hasn't been a problem for me for a while especially after 4.4.4. There was the 4k problem but that's largely resolved. I can shoot 10 min videos no problem now.
Battery life as you said is excellent even though worse on 4.4.4 but I believe that's because of the increased brightness. On older firmware, it maxed out at 420 nits but now it goes up to 520 nits. Also the z2 unlike the z3 has a very warm and colourful panel. Probably the most colourful lcd panel ever produced and that takes it toll on battery as well. That's probably why Sony toned things down considerable with the z3 series to make good their 2 day promise but I hate cold displays and one of the main reasons I'd always recommend the z2 over its newer sibling. Well that and the fact that it's camera is also more consistent at focusing in lower light and the fact that it's much cheaper.
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Call quality... I've never had anyone complain about not hearing me properly on mine so I can't help you. It could just be that you have a small head and so the mic placement at the very bottom doesn't help you at all lol.
Camera.... The superior auto mode is notoriously poor. It usually cranks up the iso and exposure producing very noisy photos. To get the best results, use it with manual controls. It's not difficult. You have the basic settings. Exposure, white balance or colour temperature, and iso.
For exposure, you can leave it at default most of the time only adjusting when really needed.
White balance has five options. Auto which I strongly recommend not using in daylight. Use the sunny or cloudy options.
The key really is ISO, this is where the auto mode does most of its damage by cranking the value way to high.
Under daylight and florescent lighting, use the lowest value of 50 mostly but no higher than 100. For incandescent lighting say coming from a bulb or lamp, use iso 200. ISO is basically the sensors sensitivity to light, the higher this value the more luminescent noise is present. In general, never go above 400 unless you're in a really dark room and don't want to use the flash. And when you use 400 it's advisable to drop the exposure value down a notch or two or three lol
Its really simple, just play around with the settings. In order words adjust them until what you see in the viewfinder closely resembles the scene you're trying to take.
Unfortunately the Sony auto software doesn't come anywhere close to that on the iPhone but with manual controls, it spanks the iPhone. It's a great camera especially on 4.4.4 which I recommend you return to. Maybe hold the phone higher up when calling so your mouth is closer to the mic.
Overheating hasn't been a problem for me for a while especially after 4.4.4. There was the 4k problem but that's largely resolved. I can shoot 10 min videos no problem now.
Battery life as you said is excellent even though worse on 4.4.4 but I believe that's because of the increased brightness. On older firmware, it maxed out at 420 nits but now it goes up to 520 nits. Also the z2 unlike the z3 has a very warm and colourful panel. Probably the most colourful lcd panel ever produced and that takes it toll on battery as well. That's probably why Sony toned things down considerable with the z3 series to make good their 2 day promise but I hate cold displays and one of the main reasons I'd always recommend the z2 over its newer sibling. Well that and the fact that it's camera is also more consistent at focusing in lower light and the fact that it's much cheaper.
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Well said. I would surely play with the manual settings. Thanks
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Just recently got my hands on the Redmi Note 3 Pro. I reviewed the Redmi Note 3 with 3GB of RAM. A great phone but it lacks a MicroSD card slot, so it had a rather major flaw. Now the Redmi Note 3 Pro is out to fix this with MicroSD support in the dual SIM slot (Either micro sim + MicroSD or 2 x micro sims). And it now has a new camera sensor ( s5l3p3 Samsung ISOCELL 16MP) and a new chipset the Snapdragon 650. Overall this is an impressive phone for the price. Metal build, great screen. Very fast (78k in AnTuTu 6) The internal storage is also very quick for a phone at 150mb/s read and 50 mb/s writes. Can't really fault it only that the camera is very poor at low light still. And it has no NFC support.
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Pros:
Great build with a metal body
The Snapdragon 650 sets new standards in power for the price
1500+ Single core score in Geekbench 3
78,000 Antutu 6.0.4 score
Great battery life 8 hours+ screen on time
Fast LTE support 300mbps
Sharp and bright screen. Ver decent 1080p panel
Great price Vs performance ratio
4k video with Google camera
FM Radio
Great sound quality
Cons:
No NFC support
Only quick charge 2 and not version 3 the chipset supports
Camera is very poor in low light
Very poor video in low light (Useless)
No 4k video support in the stock camera app (Need to use Google camera for 4k)
MIUI 7.1 has Chinese in and around it (No global MIUI 7 ROM yet)
No root yet, locked bootloader too?
Final thoughts.
I'm impressed, an amazing phone considering the price. It can beat some flagship models in everything apart from the camera. I cover all this in the full video review.
Camera samples, The first and last two are low light photos:
Video samples:
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Hi Chris ! Seems you're the first one who got hand on this - very nice - phone !
About the camera, can you test with "Manual Camera Compatibility" app to show if they let some manual settings avaible ? ( could solve the low light issue with the appropriate camera app : freedcam or fv-5 if manual shutter is avaible)
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Camera samples, The first and last two are low light photos:...
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Can you please share some pics captured in night and some with Flash.
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Hi Chris ! Seems you're the first one who got hand on this - very nice - phone !
About the camera, can you test with "Manual Camera Compatibility" app to show if they let some manual settings avaible ? ( could solve the low light issue with the appropriate camera app : freedcam or fv-5 if manual shutter is avaible)
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Manual mode camera only lets you change the white balance and ISO.
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Manual mode camera only lets you change the white balance and ISO.
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Well ... Too bad !
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Can you please share some pics captured in night and some with Flash.
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Not a photo, but low light video test:
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Photos come out the same in these conditions, out of focus and blurred. The camera lags in low light really bad, the mobiles only true weakness.
I just ordered mine, looks like it'll be nearly a month before it gets here! After nearly a year away from Android and custom ROMs I have plenty of reading to do
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I just ordered mine, looks like it'll be nearly a month before it gets here! After nearly a year away from Android and custom ROMs I have plenty of reading to do
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Where did you order yours from?
i ordered mine from GearBest yesterday.
Says it will be shipped on the 19th, but then customs will probably hold onto it for a while
I got mine from Aliexpress, hopefully it will get some custom roms or root soon so I can remove a few Chinese apps. Or a global rom asap.
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Where did you order yours from?
i ordered mine from GearBest yesterday.
Says it will be shipped on the 19th, but then customs will probably hold onto it for a while
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Gearbest as well. Last items I ordered took over 3 weeks to get here. Got an iphone 3GS until then. Slow isn't the word lol
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I got mine from Aliexpress, hopefully it will get some custom roms or root soon so I can remove a few Chinese apps. Or a global rom asap.
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Thanks for the great review of the Pro - I wasn't aware the pro was available to buy yet - your very quick off the mark - amazing stuff.
So just placed an order for one on Aliexpress with Fantacy Technology but now worried about the software.
Do I just message them and tell them I want an unopened box i.e. phone straight from the factory with MIUI 7.1 English and Traditional/Simplified Chinese language only?
See I don't want any tampering with the software before I receive it. Want it just as dispatched by Xiaomi.
Thanks for any advice
Hi,
Yes that's what I did. I asked them to just send me a factory sealed RN3P without opening it. Otherwise they open it up and install Google Play. And they did that for me which was great, just send it exactly as they received it from Xiaomi. Reason I got it so fast is I was talking to the seller on Aliexpress just after the Chinese launch and got him to get it especially for me before it ran out of stock. First release in China sold out in a day or something, but he was able to get a few units. But only in white. Of course I had to pay extra for this
Any info about locked bootloader or succesfull root method? Custom ROM would be great for this...
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I got mine from Aliexpress, hopefully it will get some custom roms or root soon so I can remove a few Chinese apps. Or a global rom asap.
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How much it is?
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Any info about locked bootloader or succesfull root method? Custom ROM would be great for this...
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Locked and no root for now, I've tried a few root apps and nothing seems to work.
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How much it is?
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It's currently just out and sellers are overcharging for it. But it should be around $180 for the 2GB model and just over $210 for the 3GB version. Prices will come down. At the moment it's around $230.
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It's currently just out and sellers are overcharging for it. But it should be around $180 for the 2GB model and just over $210 for the 3GB version. Prices will come down. At the moment it's around $230.
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Hmm.. 210 USD is arround 2.800.000 rupiahs, and its very cheap phone with monster spec.
my future phone I hope global rom releases soon I am thinking after Mi5 comes out
twrp and root is a must
Hendrickson can u please check how long does it take to charge from 0 to 100 with the standard adapter & cable that came with the phone thanks....
Here's my review - hope it helps.
Ok so I have had my RN3 Pro for a whopping 7 days now so here's a few things to take away which may help you.
I ordered from Vickmall, the golden 32GB/3GB version I think with conversion was about $380 AUD so not too bad.
- I (stupidly?) took the free postage offer, which I guess from years of ordering cycling gear from the UK where free postage is the norm, and delivery is within 7 days, seemed to be no major issue.
- In hindsight, 2.5 weeks to my door wasn't too shabby, but their poor tracking system means the parcel is often in a completely different country by the time the tracking information is updated (mine is still showing last updated from the 9th of Feb)
On to the phone :
- Well he(she) arrived in a standard China post box which contained the bubble wrapped Mi box, a silicone case (basic, but does the job) tempered glass screen protector and some wipes to clean the screen. External packaging looked worse for wear, but not issues with the internal box (Kudos to Vickmall for the bubble wrap!)
- Mi box was opened I assumed so they could fire up the phone and do a QC check maybe. All films etc were still on the phone.
- Vickmall included a pretty average looking China-AU adapter which actually does the job for now, but I wouldn't want to leave this thing on unattended.
- Despite my repeatedly asking, Vickmall DID NOT install Google Play or Google Apps, but that's literally a 10 minute job to set it up (I honestly believe the people manning the online chat don't relay any customer requests to those who ship the item)
The phone itself is actually a very high quality, feels well balanced, lighter than my Moto X Style and slightly narrower too, and at least 1mm thinner. It's more similar in size to an iPhone 6 and no dramas with it being too big for the average user.
- Bezels are small and the chins aren't overly large or look out of proportion.
- The included silicone case is cheap but it does the job, for now.
- Phone takes a combo of micro sim and SD card (at once) or nano sim on it's own (as it goes in the SD card slot)
- Phone booted up quickly enough, and once I connected to the wifi it ran some OTA updates to the MIUI OS which took about 10-15 mins.
- I installed Google Playstore and Google Apps easily enough and then installed Nova to replace MIUI. MIUI actually isn't that bad, but I prefer the Nova feel myself.
So in reality it probably took no more than ½ hour to set the phone up. It came about 50% charged so I had adequate time to play around with it and move photos, music etc over to it and get it feeling like my Moto X.
So what do I like -
Battery life is great. It was at 100% at midnight, it's 9.15 now and still on 85% with some Facebook, IG etc.
Camera is actually pretty good, with great filters, modes etc.
Sound is plenty loud and clear even considering the rear mounted speaker.
Display is super sharp (IMHO 1080p is more than adequate for 5.5" screen)
Screen sensitivity is awesome. No missed touches etc.
FM radio. I actually missed this on my Moto X Style.
Snappy and accurate finger print scanner.
Expandable memory, thank God!!
Big battery (take note Motorola / Lenovo)
What am I not so keen on -
Nothing really. Being a Chinese phone means that most of the deep rooted files, ie ring tones and themes are in Chinese, however I downloaded one of the many aftermarket apps and got my own ringtones, alarm tones, message tones etc.
There are Chinese ones pre-loaded, but being in Chinese I couldn't actually understand what I was looking at.
Nothing seems to indicate quick charging from the standard included charger (is this normal?)
For mine, for the cost, there's not a great deal out there that's any better. A full 1080p screen, huge battery, metal construction, 3GB with expandable memory and a pretty good camera all for just over $350 is a bargain.
Even tho the phone is a meant for the Chinese market, so it's essentially a Chinese model, don't be put off. Literally ½ hour of time, plus Youtube and Whirlpool forums, and you will find it's actually pretty basic to get it up and humming!
4/5 rating for me!
We need separate subforum for RN3 Pro
so guys i`m an owner of z3c a great phone but lacks the build quality and terrible camera...since i broke the screen i`m planing to jump to
samsung galaxy s6 its a premium tbh but i hate samsung.......or z5c both are same price to me....
so i`ve been following the post of Z5c on sony.talk.....and the amount of defected units is way too high..... them blurry images and rarely dead pixles but its more like 7 out of 10 with defected lens .....is it worth it to take the risk and get the z5c? or is there any more bugs found on this phone hope we can discuss it here even though i dont believe the camera is that great even if the phone is not defected
I'll just post my issues with the Z5 Compact:
- Auto-brightness is broken, unlocking the phone with enabled auto-brightness results in a bright display for a couple of seconds --> Sony said that it'll be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update
- Lags and inconsistent performance, disabling X-Reality helped a bit. It just doesn't feel like a fast phone, my old HTC One M8 was flying through the system. My brother has a Nexus 6p with the same processor and it feels much smoother, we compared them side by side (opening apps, loading websites).
- Music and Podcasts from different apps (Spotify, Shuttle+, Pocketcasts) are pausing every now and then (already repaired the phone with PC companion and did a manual factory reset, reformatted my external SD card)
- slow camera launch
- it takes a while to look at a taken picture
- active mobile radio bug --> will be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update, other Marshmallow phones confirmed that
- slow connection to wifi networks (exclamation mark in the statusbar)
- many bloatware apps from Sony (luckily they can be disabled)
Overall im quite disappointed by this phone because of its lackluster firmware performance. I'm hoping Marshmallow fixes the most annoxing bugs (broken auto-brightness is a pain), if not I'm selling it. I like the slim UI, the design of this phone and the camera. My photos are thankfully not blurred.
I've got Z1c, Z5c and S6. If you love small size, Z5c is the only option. The current problem is software not mature, not to the level you can't real use it as a daily driver but enough to annoy you. We are waiting for MM to fix. Me and my friend both owned Z5c and our lens no blur.
S6 two big issues, other than that it's good. First is poor memory management during heavy multi-tasking(light use okay) and second thing is bad color reproduction(over saturation and too much contrast, auto exposure isn't as accurate) compared to Z1c/Z5c. But I know Z3c white balance is quite buggy even worse than Z1/Z2 line.
I always take photo so camera is most important to me and I tend to stick with Z1c/Z5c and going to sell out my S6 soon. But S6 camera is extremely quick and OIS is useful, for the point and shoot purpose no doubt better than Sony but I just can't use it to shoot out any decent photo though S6 camera got little more details but color is too wrong. Casual user may more welcome S6 camera bcoz they just want speedy.
The current problem on Z5 camera is high ISO bad and 4K focus/quality at low-light even worse than my Z1c. But the focus is decent, slightly slower than S6 but blows Z1c/Z3c. Color and exposure is improved too, I'll say the best I've ever seen. However, if the upcoming MM not fix all issues, I'm thinking to stick with Z1c for a little bit more time and wait Z6c/Z7c.
To be honest I expected the z5c to suck when I bought it.
Marshmallow wasn't out yet and to me, it looks like the best strategy for sony would be to release ****ty software because MM update would come soon anyway.
Unfortunately, I'm very dissapointed, I agree that the phone is laggy and tend to get way too hot. Batterylife is worse than Z3C. (I could easily last two days, one day is even an issue on this phone) The MM update should have hit the Z5 family end December at latest.
I still have hopes for MM, if you could wait three weeks I would, let's see how it works out. (but somewhere it already feels like I'm going to get dissapointed, I had such high hopes for Sony but I feel betrayed by them)
30min Wifi Skype call, temperature reached: 50°C.
So consider also that in some situations the phone overheats easily
Wait to see if mm fixes the problems. I went from z3c to z5c. Not very happy. So my tip is to wait for some weeks
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I'll just post my issues with the Z5 Compact:
- Auto-brightness is broken, unlocking the phone with enabled auto-brightness results in a bright display for a couple of seconds --> Sony said that it'll be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update
- Lags and inconsistent performance, disabling X-Reality helped a bit. It just doesn't feel like a fast phone, my old HTC One M8 was flying through the system. My brother has a Nexus 6p with the same processor and it feels much smoother, we compared them side by side (opening apps, loading websites).
- Music and Podcasts from different apps (Spotify, Shuttle+, Pocketcasts) are pausing every now and then (already repaired the phone with PC companion and did a manual factory reset, reformatted my external SD card)
- slow camera launch
- it takes a while to look at a taken picture
- active mobile radio bug --> will be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update, other Marshmallow phones confirmed that
- slow connection to wifi networks (exclamation mark in the statusbar)
- many bloatware apps from Sony (luckily they can be disabled)
Overall im quite disappointed by this phone because of its lackluster firmware performance. I'm hoping Marshmallow fixes the most annoxing bugs (broken auto-brightness is a pain), if not I'm selling it. I like the slim UI, the design of this phone and the camera. My photos are thankfully not blurred.
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From reading the forums it seems to me that the quality of the z5c handsets Sony has put out is pretty uneven, from poor quality control, different build lines, different rev versions or...?
I'm overall happy, no issues of lags, reboots or the like.
Keep mobile data off almost always so not affected by active mobile radio bug, which is really an Android issue more than a Sony issue if I understand it correctly.
No issues with music or podcasts, listen to pods a lot.
No issues with overheating, it does get quite warm occasionally with heavy use but nothing really bothersome. (I don't play games or shoot video.)
Generally happy with camera, no blur issues, no slow launch issues, though watching pictures/launching album from within camera is really slow. I'm not a keen photographer or a very exigent user of the camera, understand from others there are issues of software limiting the hardware. Definitely could do better in low light.
Agree on the bloatware, have disabled most and wish more was possible. Then again, compared to Samsung or most other manufacturers...
So the issues I have are:
- auto brightness bug, common to all z5 and acknowledged by Sony a long time ago. Disappointing it takes months to issue an upgrade or patch.
- wifi management is confusing. Without Stamina mode wifi keeps turning off in standby/sleep, though I have it set to always keep on. With Stamina mode it stays conected?? Seems counterintuitive. Also occasionally it keeps turning off even then, can't understand why?
- I want to keep wifi always on when connected to a known network, off when no network. Previously Sony had a bundled app, Location based wifi, which took care of it and worked really well. Disappointed they no longer include it, after trying several third party apps I believe I have found one that works.
- battery capacity is ok, not great, but only(?) without mobile data on. Regularly get 6+ hours on screen time which isn't bad, more would be better.
- finger print sensor works poorly and irregularly. Apart from not working if fingers are dirty or damp, which is ok and expected, it works poorly in general. I have five fingers saved, it works well with one of them in certain angles, less so with another finger and very poorly on others. Frustratingly, when I press lock key only to look at time without wanting to unlock it often does just that, more frequently than when i do want to unlock.
Size, ergonomics, hardware quality, waterproof certifications - I'm real happy and see few if any competitors on the market. Software could be better and updates much more frequent, but apart from above mentioned issues my phone is quick and snappy, no lags. Pleased with the general UI, but wish more customization was possible and more bloatware was optional or uninstallable.
Regarding poor performance of fingerprint sensor it seems, thanks to michal89chz, that I have found a solution. I had tried to re-register fingerprints before without seeing much of a difference. It seems that registering a fingerprint in all kinds of different angles greatly improves the performance of the sensor, now hit rate has gone up from 4/10 to 9/10. If it keeps up take that off the list of complaints. Though Sony ought to have made it clear in the settings when you first register your prints that this procedure is necessary for a good performance.
Heres my take.
The camera is better than z3c when ready but takes so long to launch that the moment is usually gone long before the phone is ready.
Oh and from time to time the camera won't launch because according to the error message some other app is using it. I've only been able to solve that issue by rebooting adding insult to injury for the already ridiculous camera launch times.
Thats really the only advantage.
It gets way hotter and lags like crazy seemingly at random.
My guess is that Snapdragon 810 is just a piece of **** and I hope Sony makes a z6c with 820 which i will happily buy..
I'm so frustrated that Samsung S7 starts to look good but it's bigger than the HTC One m7 and I found that too big
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Heres my take.
The camera is better than z3c when ready but takes so long to launch that the moment is usually gone long before the phone is ready.
Oh and from time to time the camera won't launch because according to the error message some other app is using it. I've only been able to solve that issue by rebooting adding insult to injury for the already ridiculous camera launch times.
Thats really the only advantage.
It gets way hotter and lags like crazy seemingly at random.
My guess is that Snapdragon 810 is just a piece of **** and I hope Sony makes a z6c with 820 which i will happily buy..
I'm so frustrated that Samsung S7 starts to look good but it's bigger than the HTC One m7 and I found that too big
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Try Xperia X Performance
About that auto brightness bug, you guys could try Velis Auto Brightness app from Play Store, works great for me.
- Auto Brightness bug here. (I can't believe I'm using Manual Brightness in a 2015 hi-end phone).
- Poor picture quality with the camera with low or medium light and with close/mid pictures, specially close-ups. (In general, the camera is terrible is the worst thing of this phone, the main reason I can't wait to upgrade the phone. Never used flash in two years with my previous phone with HDR+, now I need flash again to see some details at MEDIUM light!!).
- Performance issues, mainly because of Lollipop. But also they'll need to improve the kernel.
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I do not have any reboots issues, nor temperature problems.
KingKonga said:
I'll just post my issues with the Z5 Compact:
- Auto-brightness is broken, unlocking the phone with enabled auto-brightness results in a bright display for a couple of seconds --> Sony said that it'll be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update
- Lags and inconsistent performance, disabling X-Reality helped a bit. It just doesn't feel like a fast phone, my old HTC One M8 was flying through the system. My brother has a Nexus 6p with the same processor and it feels much smoother, we compared them side by side (opening apps, loading websites).
- Music and Podcasts from different apps (Spotify, Shuttle+, Pocketcasts) are pausing every now and then (already repaired the phone with PC companion and did a manual factory reset, reformatted my external SD card)
- slow camera launch
- it takes a while to look at a taken picture
- active mobile radio bug --> will be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update, other Marshmallow phones confirmed that
- slow connection to wifi networks (exclamation mark in the statusbar)
- many bloatware apps from Sony (luckily they can be disabled)
Overall im quite disappointed by this phone because of its lackluster firmware performance. I'm hoping Marshmallow fixes the most annoxing bugs (broken auto-brightness is a pain), if not I'm selling it. I like the slim UI, the design of this phone and the camera. My photos are thankfully not blurred.
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+1 all the above..
Exactly my thoughts. This is the worst phone you can buy.. Mostly due to software issues.. I was trying to record a video. I opened the app and hit record button and i lost initial 10 seconds of the footage. Thats how worst camera launch time is.
It gets way hotter for everyday tasks. I dont game on my phone still super hot. Lags all the time. Multitasking is terrible. Even if i have 3-4 apps running in background i experienced google maps reloading a couple of times which is terrible.
Wifi is slow as well and music pauses randomly as it wishes. Sometimes bluetooth studdering.. I thought battery life was good initially but it became worse.
This is the worst ever phone from sony. I have a z3c before which is way better despite of its short comings
thanks a lot everyone on your replies i`v read it carefully thanks for helping me to decide <3
after today MWC and the the release of X series and the overpriced phones i think its time to step aside from sony but my heart will always be there Thanks for sharing your experience and being 100% honest
i`ll wait till M.M but its also gonna take few weeks according to sony statement today then i`ll come back here and check your feedback it will help everyone
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thanks a lot everyone on your replies i`v read it carefully thanks for helping me to decide <3
after today MWC and the the release of X series and the overpriced phones i think its time to step aside from sony but my heart will always be there Thanks for sharing your experience and being 100% honest
i`ll wait till M.M but its also gonna take few weeks according to sony statement today then i`ll come back here and check your feedback it will help everyone
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if you are going for a Galaxy S6, I'd rather go for a Nexus 5X. You won't have the size and the battery you have with the Z3C....but in everything else is a win. And it's not an expensive phone.
There are no alternatives to the Z5C at the moment in the compact range. It's the only one I'd buy (and I still don't like it).
I don't have lag or overheating. It's quite hot sometimes but still in a manageable level, don't forget every SD810 phone is hot. But I rooted and using Greenify with xposed so I have more free ram than non-root user and I also flashed Tommy-Geenexus's kernel which lower downed the cpu speed to reduce heat. I think MM will improve big.Little cpu for who experienced lag. In my opinions, z1c z5c s6 the battery performance during use is very similar, not as good as z3c but still enough for normal use. My problem on Z5c is battery drain during idle/standby, after flashed the raidoactivefix xposed module been improved but still worse than z1c and s6 at overnight standby.
Some have bluetooth disconnect issues, after used Amplify xposed module to limit a whole beach of wakelock/alarms my Sony MW600 handfree finally suffer from this issue so it may related somethings bad coded to keep DDOS attacking BT devices....lol... On the other hand, my Sony SmartWatch2 seems never get disconnection, maybe smartwatch's cpu is strong enough to defense spam.
What's the most annoyed me is camera. Low light photo is also good but not above 160/200iso range. 200iso already started a bit bad so most people will just said the camera suck. Within 160iso the quality real better than my Z1c, 200 or up my Z1c even performed better in terms of details. My Z1c with 4K mod doing better focus and quality too.
Not real intended to leave Z5c as I like the better screen, white balance and fast focus, I still want to hold Z5c at this time. But since the result is so mixed to me, if MM not fix it, I will stay with Z1c and get some cash back.
I've seen a few issues as well, I've got a white international with no camera blur and no self cracking screen (yet).
I have to have a one thumb phone so my options were limited. I had an s4 mini for going on 3 years, best phone I've ever had. I always wanted to try the z compacts but the z1c didn't have LTE and the z3c had stupid side charging. I gave the z5c a chance with low expectations based on all the negative I heard, and I was still disappointed lol. I will probably be settling with the s5 mini but until I'll be playing with this.
Very short battery life, no replaceable battery, and no wireless charging. Nothing that I didn't know jumping into it but still hard to deal with having to answer calls while on a charger, let alone the heat on my face is almost unbearable at times.
Camera issues are also something I knew before hand, I am coming from an 8mp camera with a broken lens so it's an upgrade to me. But yet the lag has got to be a joke. Right?
Software is kind of cool, reminds me of miui a bit on the notifications, it's miles above touchwiz, and with some xposed tweaks I think I'll really like the home launcher! Root and xposed are a huge deal to me for some of my apps so I'm still carrying my other device for that need while I figure out xposed on the z5 line. I have had a lot of rooted phones and for you guys waiting and relying on a MM update to fix things... I wouldn't and wont be, there will just be new or slightly fixed issues. Happens every time lol
All in all I like the phone, the form is great, button layout I love, and the screen hopefully will not fade out like my other amoleds! Hopefully we can get some cm12 on this platform to play with soon.
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Regarding poor performance of fingerprint sensor it seems, thanks to michal89chz, that I have found a solution. I had tried to re-register fingerprints before without seeing much of a difference. It seems that registering a fingerprint in all kinds of different angles greatly improves the performance of the sensor, now hit rate has gone up from 4/10 to 9/10. If it keeps up take that off the list of complaints. Though Sony ought to have made it clear in the settings when you first register your prints that this procedure is necessary for a good performance.
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Hate quoting myself, but when necessary...
Fingerprint sensor has not kept up performance. Just like when phone was new, it works like a charm for a day or two, then regresses badly. I don't know if problem is hardware or software, and don't much care except I guess the latter would be better - if they ever manage to release an update (that actually improves things without introducing more bugs than were fixed...).
Anyway, the sensor now works slightly better than before I re-registered all prints a couple of days ago. Hit rate is somewhere between 5-6/10 depending on angle and finger, but sometimes much worse. Not great. And no, phone or fingers are not grimy. One advantage of water-almost-proofness is you can wash off phone now and again. I'm guessing intent of including fingerprint sensor was not for user to wash fingers and phone before every interaction?
I sorta like that the fingerprint sensor doesn't catch 100% touches because I read about people who were irritated that they were just trying to check the time and every time ended up unlocking the phone. It doesn't happen with me and I'm very happy with it, I can live with the extra half second it takes to try again.
From my point of view, i'd like to agree that some of issues mentioned above are present. Those are:
-Poor camera quality. For me the camera is not an essential feature, so i don't complain, but it is really nowhere near the flagship-quality, imho
-Fingerprint scanner performance. It seems to be extremely sensitive about its own and finger's cleanness. It can work just fine for a half a day and then it suddenly rejects the fingerprint for several times. This is my first and only android-based device with the scanner, so i can't compare with sony's direct competitors, but i never experienced such issues using any of apple devices with fingerprint sensor.
-Auto-brightness issues are completely described in posts above, i totally agree with all that.
-Software was unstable for a couple of months after sales launched. As i said, i don't often use a camera, but there was just one time in autumn when it was necessary for me to record a video. And z5c captured no sound at all. The mic that time was not functional at any applications, and i noticed this an hour later when a person who called me could hear no sound from my side. That was extremely disappointing. Some random reboots were present in early versions of firmware too. It get much better and more stable these days, but some minor software issues can still be noticed now and then.
And then here comes the major issue of them all: z5c just doesn't like winter. It was about -10 celsius outside, and i was there for a couple of hours with a phone in the pocket of my jacket. When i returned home, i saw that the glass on rear panel had a massive crack:
http://cs630129.vk.me/v630129131/11b31/QE0b_6WL5dU.jpg
And this issue with glasses cracking when temperature is low is present on every sony's device with glass on its back since the original xperia z. Every winter there are dozens of reports about glass-related problems on our local pda forums, sony's local office was awared of the problem, so there were hopes that they will fix it in their latest models. Here comes z5, and nothing changed. Those issues are covered by warranty as long as warranty lasts (1 year usually), so i didn't have to pay for the repair, but it took some time to replace the glass.
I have heard that le pro 3 has some display issue.... First of all the screen mute Ness the screen colour accuracy is not true to life and cold colours and second of all the touch latency it's something to notice I think that is it's EUI's fault.
Please some clarity my doubts
Depends partly on rom
Hello, I have not read before about general display / touchscreen issues, but I have used 3 custom roms (and of course stock) in my time with this phone yet and can say that there is a noticeable difference in how it reacts depending on what the developer worked out. That said, I have to stress that every part of this phone so far feels and works as you would expect from a state of the art phone. Alright, beside the camera, that's close to crappy , but the rest is great. My comparison "group" so far is LG G4, Samsung S7 edge (yeah, that screen image quality is unbeaten, but it's all very close i would say) and Sony Xperia and the Leeco Pro 3 with for example Turbo Rom is snappier than all of them. There is definitly no lag or something like that.
Looking just at image quality, I mean, there are ways to adjust color and brightness, so you can set up what you like - I didnt look for color settings since it looks "normal" andbrightness is on auto adjust, it's always, even in direct sunlight, perfectly readable. A resolution beyond full hd in 5,5 inches is imo useless if your not going for VR stuff - so really, if you are looking for weaknesses on that phone, it's not the screen. Yes, I became a bit of a fanboy from using it .
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[email protected] said:
Hello, I have not read before about general display / touchscreen issues, but I have used 3 custom roms (and of course stock) in my time with this phone yet and can say that there is a noticeable difference in how it reacts depending on what the developer worked out. That said, I have to stress that every part of this phone so far feels and works as you would expect from a state of the art phone. Alright, beside the camera, that's close to crappy , but the rest is great. My comparison "group" so far is LG G4, Samsung S7 edge (yeah, that screen image quality is unbeaten, but it's all very close i would say) and Sony Xperia and the Leeco Pro 3 with for example Turbo Rom is snappier than all of them. There is definitly no lag or something like that.
Looking just at image quality, I mean, there are ways to adjust color and brightness, so you can set up what you like - I didnt look for color settings since it looks "normal" andbrightness is on auto adjust, it's always, even in direct sunlight, perfectly readable. A resolution beyond full hd in 5,5 inches is imo useless if your not going for VR stuff - so really, if you are looking for weaknesses on that phone, it's not the screen. Yes, I became a bit of a fanboy from using it .
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Using custom official ROM like Lineage OS will fix the display latency/response time and colour mute Ness....?? Colours are not accurate on EUI
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "colors are not accurate" - as said, there are several possibilities of adjusting colors to your liking (there are apps for everything , some custom roms already include automatic night modes with less blue in it etc.
Regarding input lag, there simply is none whatsoever, this phone reacts blazing fast. I experienced some misinterpreted swipes taken as clicks in the first official lineage build, but that has been fixed with yesterday's update.
Despite the lower average camera, this phone is really good.
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "colors are not accurate" - as said, there are several possibilities of adjusting colors to your liking (there are apps for everything , some custom roms already include automatic night modes with less blue in it etc.
Regarding input lag, there simply is none whatsoever, this phone reacts blazing fast. I experienced some misinterpreted swipes taken as clicks in the first official lineage build, but that has been fixed with yesterday's update.
Despite the lower average camera, this phone is really good.
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Actually it's camera is good it's software optimisation is really bad it has the same Sony imx 298 sensor which OnePlus 3t,mi5 and LG V20 has (excluding OIS) pictures from the rare camera should be great...
And one more thing is that though the camera take good shot you will not be able to enjoy it on the screen of the phone as it's mute colours....Just do one thing pull out the images from your mobile and copy it to computer and see it.
I debt you will see the difference between it colours with be more saturated and pops out that in phone
I heard the same thing from others in this forum - both the "sensor is same as xy, should be great" and "the pictures suck, no matter which camera app". All my pictures go to my pc via Onedrive and they are definitely worse than those of my previous Lg G4 or the oneplus 3t which my cousin took currently on a US visit and sent pics from or those my wife's xperia x compact takes. But it doesn't mean they are horrible. Just not "premium". And I don't care if it's hardware or software.
Back to the screen, I saw a friend of mine today owning a galaxy s7 edge. And yes, that screen is better. Although you can't count pixels on either display, I can see that that just by looking at it. But the difference is not that big, definitely a lot smaller than, just as an example, the pictures of the darn camera .
One question for me: What's your "point"? Do you have the phone and experience display issues? I would say that your either oversensitive or your device is flawed. Do you think about buying it and are worried about the screen? Then I would say don't worry.
Which is it?
Actually I'm going to buy it....saw some of the review on YouTube(Android Authority &pocketnow daily)they stated that its display is having a problem as it's colours is not punchier and vivid.So.....I created a Xda thread so that I can talk to people who own the device in real life day-to-day experience
Hi
Ayan0 said:
Actually I'm going to buy it....saw some of the review on YouTube(Android Authority &pocketnow daily)they stated that its display is having a problem as it's colours is not punchier and vivid.So.....I created a Xda thread so that I can talk to people who own the device in real life day-to-day experience
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Good choice . I think the criticism of "unpunchy" colors is just as common with LCD - Displays as criticism of too punchy colors on amoled.
I mean, buying this phone almost forces you to dig into TWRP and custom roms... So it's nothing for, e. g., my wife . But since you are here already, I bet you will be happy with it. In retrospect I could have saved a few bucks by not choosing the 6 / 64 GB Version - I use the second sim slot for a data only LTE 3 gb card for monthly 7 € and now stream everything. 54 gb free space ^^ and ram always more than 3 gb free...
ZTE axon 7 is also a competitive phone compared to le pro3.... The only problem with ZTE axon 7 is it's camera it preform really poorly is low light, but in good lighting it performs really well
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ZTE axon 7 is also a competitive phone compared to le pro3.... The only problem with ZTE axon 7 is it's camera it preform really poorly is low light, but in good lighting it performs really well
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It certainly is, had it on my list for quite some time as well. And I bet 50 bucks that the camera beats leecos in every condition . But my main focus was battery life and, coming from the LG G4, I found it nonsense to go for more than Full HD on devices smaller than 7 inches - on 5,5, even fhd is far beyond "retina" and since I won't strap the phone to my face VR style, it's just wasted energy pushing the extra pixels.
Add the smaller battery, the (slightly) older soc, less ram and all of that for about 70 € more (64gb versions), made it easy for me.
One thing to say leeco's design language is very impressive and glossy
Any news when le pro3 is getting nougat update... Where as ZTE axon 7 and OnePlus 3T already got 7.1.1 update
Hello. Today I bought a brand new Galaxy S8. Everything was working fine until I decided to test out my camera. It is either wrongly set up or I have a faulty sensor. Take a look at these 2 samples:
http://imgur.com/a/6qGCO
It does gain focus and take a decent pic in very close distance to photographed object. However, when moving it a little bit far, the image gets completely blurry. I have no idea what should I do now, I am kinda disappointed and it's a terrible first impression as for a newly bought phone. Should I return it or shall I tinker with camera app a litle more? The same thing happens in Snapchat so I'd rather opt for camera sensor being faulty
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Hello. Today I bought a brand new Galaxy S8. Everything was working fine until I decided to test out my camera. It is either wrongly set up or I have a faulty sensor. Take a look at these 2 samples:
http://imgur.com/a/6qGCO
It does gain focus and take a decent pic in very close distance to photographed object. However, when moving it a little bit far, the image gets completely blurry. I have no idea what should I do now, I am kinda disappointed and it's a terrible first impression as for a newly bought phone. Should I return it or shall I tinker with camera app a litle more? The same thing happens in Snapchat so I'd rather opt for camera sensor being faulty
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Try downloading another camera app and test to see if you still get the same problems. I'd try the stock Google camera app. I'd be curious to know if you get the same results.
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Try downloading another camera app and test to see if you still get the same problems. I'd try the stock Google camera app. I'd be curious to know if you get the same results.
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I have performed a factory reset through recovery and somehow it fixed the issue, hopefully
Unfortunately i am having the same issue with my s8 plus, i tried resetting through recovery but still having the problem
Monnq said:
I have performed a factory reset through recovery and somehow it fixed the issue, hopefully
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moehawk said:
Unfortunately i am having the same issue with my s8 plus, i tried resetting through recovery but still having the problem
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The steps I have done:
On system level:
- clear camera cache
- clear data
- force close
*did not help*
then I booted into recovery, done factory reset, it solved the issue. if it still doesn't work you may need to return it and get replacement :/
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I already returned the first sm-g950f because of the same problem. It started sporadically, restarting the camera app or the phone helped in the first few days. On day 8 I tried factory reset but the camera was still out of focus. Only object closer than 6-7 cm were OK, everything else was blurry. I tested the camera in the *#0*# service menu: blurry.
The second device started showing the same symptoms a few minutes ago. Now focusing to a close object then focusing away helped. I keep monitoring for the next days.
Update:
Day #11: blurry camera, stuck focus in macro for a minute. Refocusing did not help. Closing and starting camera app again, focus now working normally.
Don't have this issue, but in general if there is dirt on the lens, it could affect focus.
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i have the same problem
any help how to slove it?
I have a similar issue, when launching the camera after some time the rear camera is completely out of focus no matter the distance of the object. After "shaking" the phone, it works fine.
Looks like the stabilizer or the autofocus is stuck and the shake fix it. What do you think?
I think I'll contact the support tomorrow
I have the S8+ European version, G955F
Is this okay? I got a blurry back cam for my newly bought s8, but after reading the suggestion to "shake" it, it became clearer. Is this normal? Is this how that is suppose to be?
hi everyone. just want yo share my experience. i bought a brend new s8 at launch . everything ok. but 3 weeks ago it started to give blurry rear cam at times. let say one for five camera app launch..... i called samsung. they told me to bring the phone to them for testing. and eventually replace the camera sensor. oh noooo. never i will accepe an opened s8............the story solved with an ota update the last week. everything ok since
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Samsung s8 is Rubbish
Bought the phone for my wife as a replacement for her 32GB s6 Edge. After 3 weeks of use this blurry rear camera started occurring. Started with once in awhile and then continued to happen more often. Shaking the phone would get it to work until the next time it faulted. It eventually was occurring every time you would launch the camera app. Searched online and found that there are MANY instances of people all over the world experiencing the same issue and shaking their phones to get the camera to work. Clearly a hardware fault.
Contacted Samsung NZ who proceeded to take me through all the typical troubleshooting steps which I had already followed from online. Eventually did a factory reset to appease them and what do you know, the issue remained and started as soon as I opened the camera app after the factory reset.
Took it to the Vodafone provider who sent it to Samsung. Received the phone back 4 days later (sent Monday, received Friday), the Samsung report states that the camera was replaced and Samsung replicated the issue on the phone. Now the camera will work and won't be blurry as soon as you open the camera app but the pictures are horrible quality. Doing a picture compare between my s6 Edge / Note 5 and the repaired s8. The s8 pictures are of terrible quality.
Very disappointed, $1000 phone, broken after a month of use. I will be taking this up with Samsung again soon.
My theory on why this issue has occurred. Samsung were trying to stick the fingerprint reader in the screen like what the iPhone 8 is doing. Samsung ran out of time and made the bad design decision to stick the fingerprint reader next to the camera. This caused the hardware fault of the blurry camera and proceeds to cause the bad quality of images.
This is not a software fault, it is a hardware fault.
I'm sure Samsung would want to save as much face as they can after the Note 7 incident. As the s8 is the first flagship after the Note 7.
This issue is not limited to the s8, s8 plus users are experiencing the same issue. The Note 8 has been designed the same way and will most likely have the same issue.
Alyonas_boy said:
Bought the phone for my wife as a replacement for her 32GB s6 Edge. After 3 weeks of use this blurry rear camera started occurring. Started with once in awhile and then continued to happen more often. Shaking the phone would get it to work until the next time it faulted. It eventually was occurring every time you would launch the camera app. Searched online and found that there are MANY instances of people all over the world experiencing the same issue and shaking their phones to get the camera to work. Clearly a hardware fault.
Contacted Samsung NZ who proceeded to take me through all the typical troubleshooting steps which I had already followed from online. Eventually did a factory reset to appease them and what do you know, the issue remained and started as soon as I opened the camera app after the factory reset.
Took it to the Vodafone provider who sent it to Samsung. Received the phone back 4 days later (sent Monday, received Friday), the Samsung report states that the camera was replaced and Samsung replicated the issue on the phone. Now the camera will work and won't be blurry as soon as you open the camera app but the pictures are horrible quality. Doing a picture compare between my s6 Edge / Note 5 and the repaired s8. The s8 pictures are of terrible quality.
Very disappointed, $1000 phone, broken after a month of use. I will be taking this up with Samsung again soon.
My theory on why this issue has occurred. Samsung were trying to stick the fingerprint reader in the screen like what the iPhone 8 is doing. Samsung ran out of time and made the bad design decision to stick the fingerprint reader next to the camera. This caused the hardware fault of the blurry camera and proceeds to cause the bad quality of images.
This is not a software fault, it is a hardware fault.
I'm sure Samsung would want to save as much face as they can after the Note 7 incident. As the s8 is the first flagship after the Note 7.
This issue is not limited to the s8, s8 plus users are experiencing the same issue. The Note 8 has been designed the same way and will most likely have the same issue.
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that doesnt sound good and i was thinking of getting one too the camera is sumthink i would use alot erm would u say it would be better to get the s7 edge insted of the s8?
vibealite said:
that doesnt sound good and i was thinking of getting one too the camera is sumthink i would use alot erm would u say it would be better to get the s7 edge insted of the s8?
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Yup! Avoid the s8 at all costs. Get the s7! Or wait for the iPhone 8. Depending on preference of course.
Alyonas_boy said:
Yup! Avoid the s8 at all costs. Get the s7! Or wait for the iPhone 8. Depending on preference of course.
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thanks for the info ill keep looking not really into iphones tho
Alyonas_boy said:
My theory on why this issue has occurred. Samsung were trying to stick the fingerprint reader in the screen like what the iPhone 8 is doing. Samsung ran out of time and made the bad design decision to stick the fingerprint reader next to the camera. This caused the hardware fault of the blurry camera and proceeds to cause the bad quality of images.
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What a horrible theory, you just got a bad phone, ask for a replacement.
peachpuff said:
What a horrible theory, you just got a bad phone, ask for a replacement.
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If this wasn't a widespread issue I would think the same. Google "s8 blurry rear camera" and see how many search results it turns up. This isn't a once off. Plenty of people around the world are experiencing the same issue.
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If this wasn't a widespread issue I would think the same. Google "s8 blurry rear camera" and see how many search results it turns up. This isn't a once off. Plenty of people around the world are experiencing the same issue.
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Perhaps, but your theory on why its happening is asinine.
peachpuff said:
Perhaps, but your theory on why its happening is asinine.
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Thank you for your most gracious wonderful opinion. It's greatly appreciated.
Same issue here, found that shaking the phone fixed the camera problem but it happens entirely too often. That being said I do have a few energy saving apps and wondering if it is putting the camera components in hibernation until I shake the phone. Anyway, did the OP findnout what was causing his blurriness?