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So last night was NYE. I took my phone out with me and the battery was at 100% according to Touch IT ROM.
I took 4 or 5 pictures which were terrible, the camera sucks.
I stayed at a mates and woke up this morning, the battery was down to 20%?!
I haven't even used the phone and after 16hours or so the battery was nearly dead. What the hell, am I doing something wrong.
I always thought the battery sucked but this is a joke
Evostance said:
So last night was NYE. I took my phone out with me and the battery was at 100% according to Touch IT ROM.
I took 4 or 5 pictures which were terrible, the camera sucks.
I stayed at a mates and woke up this morning, the battery was down to 20%?!
I haven't even used the phone and after 16hours or so the battery was nearly dead. What the hell, am I doing something wrong.
I always thought the battery sucked but this is a joke
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same here ill try to get a new one
Check if you have any applications running in the background. Do you have Wifi turned on, bluetooth? Every module that is enabled keeps sucking power. If you don't turn them off, your phone can indeed get drained pretty quick. The battery is just fine, 1500mAh isn't bad at all. Do keep in mind that - due to the big screen and many options - phones like this just don't last for a week.
Also, did you fully uncharge your battery when you first used the phone?
If the problem persists, you can always contact SE to get a new one, as it's not supposed to drain that fast.
I know on the old P990 if you didn't exit the camera app correctly it just ran in the background and drained the battery. I do a double check in the task manager every so often to ensure that nothing was left running that shouldn't be.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463775
This is a thread from Touch HD about AE Button Plus.
I am testing this now on my X1 because I am alos not happy with MY battery life.
dingolino
the camera is not that bad, actually it's one of the bests I seen in a mobile device... anyways, don't expect to take, for example, good night photos, but actually, with good lighting the photos came really nice.
as for battery; I'm sure you shoudl have something (maybe wayfinder) running in the background, with moderate use I get 3-4 days of battery without problems; and I never let it get down 40%.
i get about 2 days max on my battery. thats with nothing running in the background, althought it does ckeck my emails every 15 mins.
shame u cant buy a bigger battery like a 3000 that would last twice as long as 4 days on one charge would be amazing
Hm.... i have another one for you guys. I was using the phone non stop for the past couple of days. Wi-fi is always on and i watch media and use opera a lot. The battery lasts for about 8 hours. When i got the phone the battery was almost dead. I did charge it but for a couple of hours only. Then i charged it overnight for 12 hours. Did the fact that i did not charge it for a long time from the box affects my battery life???
orelsi said:
Hm.... i have another one for you guys. I was using the phone non stop for the past couple of days. Wi-fi is always on and i watch media and use opera a lot. The battery lasts for about 8 hours. When i got the phone the battery was almost dead. I did charge it but for a couple of hours only. Then i charged it overnight for 12 hours. Did the fact that i did not charge it for a long time from the box affects my battery life???
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yeah, i did that with a phone i bought about 2 years ago and had to get a new battery as the original one would die after a day or 2 (should last about a week as was standard phone). i always leave a new phone on charge overnight now so i know its charged all the cells
I'm not going to say that you guys are wrong, but...
This phone, does not need to be fully drained the first time you use it, nor does it need to be fully charged. That was only an issue on older batteries, it's not an issue anymore.
I also believe it says so in the manual somewhere So, I'm guessing you guys had some defect batteries, cuz it's not an issue with the battery thats in the X1.
are you using Itjes latest HD based rom?
I found I got really bad battery life out of it for a couple of days till I let it run down to under 10% then charged it again. It's working fine now.
CantoX1i said:
I'm not going to say that you guys are wrong, but...
This phone, does not need to be fully drained the first time you use it, nor does it need to be fully charged. That was only an issue on older batteries, it's not an issue anymore.
I also believe it says so in the manual somewhere So, I'm guessing you guys had some defect batteries, cuz it's not an issue with the battery thats in the X1.
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I heard the same thing from a couple of people. Older batteries had that problem but modern ones don't. I just wanted to make sure =P
u might be right. like i said it was about 2 years ago it happened to my phone. but why take the risk
The only thing I had on was wifi and check mail every 30minutes.
I only use general useage (8 pictures and a few messages)
but that was it. I dont understand. I charged it for 20mins and its gone from 20% to 60%.
7hours later its only on 50%. Strange thing is, my phone has been on a radiator all day and it hasnt last that much charge.
Last night it was freezing -4c outside and wasnt that warm inside, then I slept in a cold room. I wonder if heat has anything to do with it :S
Evostance said:
The only thing I had on was wifi and check mail every 30minutes.
I only use general useage (8 pictures and a few messages)
but that was it. I dont understand. I charged it for 20mins and its gone from 20% to 60%.
7hours later its only on 50%. Strange thing is, my phone has been on a radiator all day and it hasnt last that much charge.
Last night it was freezing -4c outside and wasnt that warm inside, then I slept in a cold room. I wonder if heat has anything to do with it :S
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Did you flash your phone recently? was the battery at full before you flashed it? it's been reported as a problem on other phones (I remember the UNI used to do this) that if you flashed when the battery wasn't at full it messed up the power levels.
Evostance said:
So last night was NYE. I took my phone out with me and the battery was at 100% according to Touch IT ROM.
I took 4 or 5 pictures which were terrible, the camera sucks.
I stayed at a mates and woke up this morning, the battery was down to 20%?!
I haven't even used the phone and after 16hours or so the battery was nearly dead. What the hell, am I doing something wrong.
I always thought the battery sucked but this is a joke
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Mine was crap the first few days. I read somewhere on this forum to run battery to zero and charge overnight with the phone off. Mine now lasts all day and is recharged each night.
Just a sidetrack with regards to batteries...
When I charge my X1 with the device turned on, the battery tends to heat up till even the casing is hot to the touch. Is anyone else encountering the same thing?
However, when the device is off while charging, the battery doesn't heat up.
Weird...
It depends on what applications you've installed.... Touch flo drains it like hell.
My phone looks like this.
I use SE panel 1, no other gimmicks.
Pocket player for music 2 hrs each day.
15 min of video here and there.
2 hrs of phone calls, and a hell a lot of messages, which means keeping on switching the phone from potrait to landscape and so on...
SPB phone suite.
SPB wallet.
SPB Wireless manager.
I get a solid 2 days with about 15% remaining at the end of the second day...
thengwee said:
Just a sidetrack with regards to batteries...
When I charge my X1 with the device turned on, the battery tends to heat up till even the casing is hot to the touch. Is anyone else encountering the same thing?
However, when the device is off while charging, the battery doesn't heat up.
Weird...
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As much as possible put the phone in sleep mode when you charge the battery. And the battery gets more heated up when charging over USB.
Hi!
I had the same problem some days ago. Even if the X1 slept on my desk with no application running, after 2 days the battery was empty.
I thought about what I installed last and deinstalled Batti. And now the battery lives much longer.
Btw... does anyone know a good app to show the status of the battery? Or how I can show it instead of the clock?
Batti was great but charging every second day was not.
Ok, I have read literally countless threads about the less than desirable battery life of the G1. However, no situations quite like this.
I bought my Dev G1 used (used for 3 weeks, supposedly). I was noticing that the battery was lasting like two hours, of course I was using it, and it was downloading some large updates.
However, Last night I went to bed about 11:30, and my phone was at 100%. I put the phone on standby, (because I didn't want to charge it all night on a full battery). I woke up @ 6am, and the phone was completely dead. I will stay on for about 30 sec and then shut off.
Thats a bit ridiculous! 6 hours on standby???
I left the phone off, and I am now charging it, in an attempt to "Condition" the battery, but Im not convinced that the battery isnt bad.
Any Opinions/comments?
**EDIT: Oh yea, I forgot to tell you. "Use only 2g networks" is checked, and GPS and Wi-Fi is off.
1. did you check that it's an original battery and not some no-name?
2. as you said, try to condition it for ~2 days, always let it run dead, try to switch it on again once or twice, keep it off and charge it 2 more hours after the led is green. repeat this four, five times, if nothing changes, call t-mobile and complain. they might send you a new one.
Sounds odd for sure. If I leave my fully charged dev phone on standby (and 3G no less) overnight it's never below 80% when I wake up 6-9 hours later. Usually 85-87%.
hgsadfwsedf said:
1. did you check that it's an original battery and not some no-name?
2. as you said, try to condition it for ~2 days, always let it run dead, try to switch it on again once or twice, keep it off and charge it 2 more hours after the led is green. repeat this four, five times, if nothing changes, call t-mobile and complain. they might send you a new one.
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Its not a no-name battery. I am an AT&T customer. I hope that conditioning it helps.
sorry, didn't pay attention
Its all good. Im just really frustrated. My Tilt lasted me two days of moderate use. I honestly need at least 6-7 hours of moderate use out of this phone, or Ill be forced to sell it.
I got 28 hours of moderate use out of my phone yesterday and it was only down to 20% at that point. You said you take it off the charger once it's full? You should leave it plugged in for a while longer.
Yea, see I left it plugged in pretty much all day yesterday. I was tethering with it, and the USB charges while tethering, Correct? So when I took it off it was fully charged.
don't charge it via usb, ac/dc seems to work better.
don't know why but many people say so..
Update: I plugged it in to my wall charger @ 8:00 am this morning. I just got a green LED. Ill leave it plugged up until about 1:30pm, and post the results later tonight. I hope I can see some difference...
By the way, I notice also that when its plugged into the USB, it gets VERY HOT around the battery compartment
Yes it does get very hot. Tell us what happens when you unplug it later. I noticed this with one of my old Window's Mobile devices, the battery lived less than 15 seconds.
Have you tried using the "Watts" program to measure battery stats.
Maybe you can post a screenshot after leaving it in standby for about 3-4 hours.
hgsadfwsedf said:
1. did you check that it's an original battery and not some no-name?
2. as you said, try to condition it for ~2 days, always let it run dead, try to switch it on again once or twice, keep it off and charge it 2 more hours after the led is green. repeat this four, five times, if nothing changes, call t-mobile and complain. they might send you a new one.
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Never let a lithium-ion battery run until it is dead!!!!!! They aren't like NICADs, they have no memory effect, and this will damage them. See "Lithium-ion Battery" - Wikipedia
"Furthermore, they may be irreversibly damaged if discharged below a certain voltage."
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Dredge said:
Its all good. Im just really frustrated. My Tilt lasted me two days of moderate use. I honestly need at least 6-7 hours of moderate use out of this phone, or Ill be forced to sell it.
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On my ATT Tilt I had 2 extra batteries and could barely make it thru a 10 hour shift at work with all three. Now with my G1, I have the same 2 spare batteries, and still barely make it thru a 10 hour shift on all 3. So, lifetime seems the same to me. They both suck batteries.
Shaggy
Well, After charging the battery yesterday afternoon, I used it heavily for about 9 hours. I used it way more than I would under normal circumstances. That was just after 1 cycle. It finally died about 10:00 and I left it off and charged it over night (about 7 hours). I will see if it lasts through one full day of normal use.
Im a little concerned about what Bill said. I certainly dont want to hurt the battery. This is the first I had even ever heard of this being potentially damaging.
Bill Zimmerly said:
Never let a lithium-ion battery run until it is dead!!!!!! They aren't like NICADs, they have no memory effect, and this will damage them. See "Lithium-ion Battery" - Wikipedia
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i meant let the phone run dead, not the battery..
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clarifying it further: use the phone until it shuts down, switch it on again, wait until it's off, switch it on, wait until it's off and then charge it using the wall charger.
What Bill said is true but conditioning the battery once a month or so is not as destructive as it sounds.
Just try not to do it all the time and it won't kill your battery.
All I know, is that it helped tremendously after just one time. it went from 6 hours in standby to 9 hours of heavy use
i took my ADP off the charger at 6am today...n nw its 1am...power manager show battery level at 29..n i used it to click a few pix today...listen to some music for about 2hours..so all in all i am pretty satisfied with what i have got..but some(some means like maybe once in a week or something) days the battery doesn't even last 4-5 hours..even when its on standby..i simply don't understand why this happens...!!!!
I charged my phone for a little bit last night because it was a little low (48%). I took it off at about 77%. I don't understand what happened. Why did it just drop like a rock? Phone is AT&T LG g2, stock 4.2.2 rooted.
Jesus that can't be good.
I have no clue about this one; it's just too weird.
I'd probably let it fully deplete and then completely charge it and see if it ever does it again.
joeyvanhummel said:
Jesus that can't be good.
I have no clue about this one; it's just too weird.
I'd probably let it fully deplete and then completely charge it and see if it ever does it again.
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That's what I'm going to do. Unfortunately this is not the first time it has happened. This happened about 2 weeks ago, but then my GSAM showed a HUGE signal decrease at the same time my battery drained, so I figured it was just that.
This time I just do not understand. I've had this phone since August or September and it's been great until this randomly started happening in the past couple weeks.
ksc6000 said:
That's what I'm going to do. Unfortunately this is not the first time it has happened. This happened about 2 weeks ago, but then my GSAM showed a HUGE signal decrease at the same time my battery drained, so I figured it was just that.
This time I just do not understand. I've had this phone since August or September and it's been great until this randomly started happening in the past couple weeks.
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Well it says 66% of that was phone radio signal. So that is the problem 90%. I had similat problem only it was while charging, so my phone wasnt charging almost at all, when i restarted it was charging fine (from 20% to 100% in 90 min) . What happened when u picked it up, was it still doing that? Or maybe its a some kind of cpu loop if that is even possible. Some people was complaining about nexus 5 rapidly discharging with combo of some lite apps (news readers).
5ch said:
Well it says 66% of that was phone radio signal. So that is the problem 90%. I had similat problem only it was while charging, so my phone wasnt charging almost at all, when i restarted it was charging fine (from 20% to 100% in 90 min) . What happened when u picked it up, was it still doing that? Or maybe its a some kind of cpu loop if that is even possible. Some people was complaining about nexus 5 rapidly discharging with combo of some lite apps (news readers).
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Yes even after picking it up, the drain continued. I've let it die and am charging the phone while it's off but I don't know if the problem will be fixed.
The youtube app was causing a major battery drain for me a few days ago,now I close it after using it just in case . I'm in the habit of checking the phone's temperature at all times :/
it has a great battery life, especially sceen on time, but the standby isn't top notch at all, I think it's poor software optimization on LG's end, I hope 4.4.2 fixes it.
charge till full. then reboot and check battery percentage.
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Battery drain with or without wake lock, doesn't matter. :good:
It has nothing to do with Android, on average i'm getting 3days with 6-7 hours screen on time on every charge.
So either you have app that drains battery or your battery is malfunctioning. (or both)
k3lcior said:
It has nothing to do with Android, on average i'm getting 3days with 6-7 hours screen on time on every charge.
So either you have app that drains battery or your battery is malfunctioning. (or both)
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Well, I don't think it's an app that is draining battery as, there are no wake locks and I don't use apps that run in background except Google apps. I don't think it's a hardware error either because this doesn't always happen. It started to happen a few days after I got the Nexus 7 half a year ago, then stopped and started randomly. It hasn't happened for at least 2 or 3 month until one week ago.
I also own an Android phone(a Samsung Galaxy S2, I know it's old) and wake locks happen so frequently, sometimes I wake up (after only 6-8 hours) to my phone having discharged completely. Betterbatterystats shows wake locks on my phone most of the time but they are so generic and not attributed to an app(i.e show up in the partial wake locks tab) that I can't troubleshoot. And why do I always have to troubleshoot? Why would I have to turn off all services to ensure I get through the day with 1 charge. I don't even use my phone a lot.
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Well, I don't think it's an app that is draining battery as, there are no wake locks and I don't use apps that run in background except Google apps. I don't think it's a hardware error either because this doesn't always happen. It started to happen a few days after I got the Nexus 7 half a year ago, then stopped and started randomly. It hasn't happened for at least 2 or 3 month until one week ago.
I also own an Android phone(a Samsung Galaxy S2, I know it's old) and wake locks happen so frequently, sometimes I wake up (after only 6-8 hours) to my phone having discharged completely. Betterbatterystats shows wake locks on my phone most of the time but they are so generic and not attributed to an app(i.e show up in the partial wake locks tab) that I can't troubleshoot. And why do I always have to troubleshoot? Why would I have to turn off all services to ensure I get through the day with 1 charge. I don't even use my phone a lot.
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Let us see the BBS logs for your phone.
About the tablet, flo has never had good idle drain, but this is likely a problem with your wifi. Before you go to bed, turn off wifi and reboot. See if you can still reproduce the 3.0%/hr drain.
If that doesn't make a difference, recommend trying stock ROM and especially kernel.
Aerowinder said:
If that doesn't make a difference, recommend trying stock ROM and especially kernel.
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Is he using a NON standard rom and the guy is *****ing about battery problems LOL
One word of advice, regardless. Do not let your battery drain completely. Ever.
Lost my Nexus 7 like that, the battery life is great so I was lazy to enough to charge it before going to sleep (it was on a very low level then). Got a thin brick in the morning
Charge it before hitting 20% battery to be safe. That is what I do. It expands battery life longer for me
ruzell said:
Charge it before hitting 20% battery to be safe. That is what I do. It expands battery life longer for me
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Is this a confirmed phenomenon? I hear a lot of people say it's a fairytale and some people swear it works. Any official links confirming it or anything like that?
bentleyboy said:
Is this a confirmed phenomenon? I hear a lot of people say it's a fairytale and some people swear it works. Any official links confirming it or anything like that?
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It does work besides there is no damage if you let it die just a few times but if you let the battery discharged till it dies frequently then you are damaging the battery. This is more common on Li-on battery as they drain more quickly overtime due to frequent loss of power.
ruzell said:
It does work besides there is no damage if you let it die just a few times but if you let the battery discharged till it dies frequently then you are damaging the battery. This is more common on Li-on battery as they drain more quickly overtime due to frequent loss of power.
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Hmm. Good to know, thanks. I rarely let stuff die completely, but now I'll actively avoid it.
I use a calibration app just for testing and since my phone is unusable.
It shutdowns around 40%
Tried accubattery and it says battery at 1600mah
atifsh said:
I use a calibration app just for testing and since my phone is unusable.
It shutdowns around 40%
Tried accubattery and it says battery at 1600mah
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One solution - replace your battery.
optimumpro said:
One solution - replace your battery.
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I was getting 5 hrs of sot 3 days ago.
atifsh said:
I was getting 5 hrs of sot 3 days ago.
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When the phone shuts down an anything above 20%, your battery needs replacement. Period.
Look at it this way: if your battery has let's say 12 cells, when 7 cells die, it will charge to 100% faster, because there is less to charge, but will also discharge or shut down faster, because the remaining cells can't hold the load. It will still show 40%, but because you don't have enough cells, the phone shuts down. If the battery apps show 1300ma capacity, that means you have lost almost 2/3 of the battery cells.
By the way, all battery calibration does is it resets battery stats, which is done anyway each time the battery is fully charged. So, any calibration app is useless (since Android 5 or 6, when Google introduced battery stats reset.
optimumpro said:
When the phone shuts down an anything above 20%, your battery needs replacement. Period.
Look at it this way: if your battery has let's say 12 cells, when 7 cells die, it will charge to 100% faser, because there is less to charge, but will also discharge or shut down faster, because the remaining cells can't hold the load. It will still show 40%, but because you don't have enough cells, the phone shuts down. If the battery apps show 1300ma capacity, that means you have lost almost 2/3 of the battery cells.
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this i understand, what i don't is the fact its sudden even now accubattery says 500 mah . phone now shuts at any number basically its a 15 min phone, pretty sure battery doesn't gets destroyed like this. does oneplus got any issues with QC 3 chargers? because that's what I'm using.
ill be trying a unbrick way or just flash to 9 just to double check.
atifsh said:
this i understand, what i don't is the fact its sudden even now accubattery says 500 mah . phone now shuts at any number basically its a 15 min phone, pretty sure battery doesn't gets destroyed like this. does oneplus got any issues with QC 3 chargers? because that's what I'm using.
ill be trying a unbrick way or just flash to 9 just to double check.
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Once you phone starts to shut down at 40%, from there it's a short road to death. In a week or so, it won't boot at all.
Don't do unbrick on an almost dead battery, as you might permanently damage your phone, if the battery dies in the middle of unbrick flashing. Mobile phones, unlike laptops, work from battery only. The function of the charger is to charge only, not to provide power to work.
optimumpro said:
Once you phone starts to shut down at 40%, from there it's a short road to death. In a week or so, it won't boot at all.
Don't do unbrick on an almost dead battery, as you might permanently damage your phone, if the battery dies in the middle of unbrick flashing. Mobile phones, unlike laptops, work from battery only. The function of the charger is to charge only, not to provide power to work.
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got it. thanks
though already did a unbrick to 7.1 and boy somehow its louder.. hehe
now it wont do auto ota for some reason but im going with you and not upgrading it locally to 9.
just used it non stop for 1 hour on youtube and it went from 30 to 18 in 1 hour and shutdowns.
thou now it charges from 1% lets see how it works, if it goes through half a day ill try to sell it instead of replacing battery.
somehow i don't think it will be re-glued perfectly with these third party workers here.
atifsh said:
got it. thanks
though already did a unbrick to 7.1 and boy somehow its louder.. hehe
now it wont do auto ota for some reason but im going with you and not upgrading it locally to 9.
just used it non stop for 1 hour on youtube and it went from 30 to 18 in 1 hour and shutdowns.
thou now it charges from 1% lets see how it works, if it goes through half a day ill try to sell it instead of replacing battery.
somehow i don't think it will be re-glued perfectly with these third party workers here.
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Oneplus 5s actually have 2 screws that hold the back. So, it's more durable than glue only.
Years ago, I had Sony Xperia with expiring battery: it was pain until I replaced the battery.
optimumpro said:
Oneplus 5s actually have 2 screws that hold the back. So, it's more durable than glue only..
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My problem is they don't glue properly or doesn't use good glue and that leaves lot of space around from where water drops can easily get inside.
I like to clean phone with wet hands / soap and than dry with towel.
Don't like greasy phone.
optimumpro said:
Oneplus 5s actually have 2 screws that hold the back. So, it's more durable than glue only..
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So finally I managed to get my battery replaced and as feared now have nice bump dent kinda thing near sim tray.
Other problem now left is how to re-enable OTA updates.
Apparently oneplus were having issues on ota server's.
Received OTA and boy think I'm back to a new oneplus 5.
Thanks buddy for pushing me to replace battery and not blaming android update. LoL
atifsh said:
Apparently oneplus were having issues on ota server's.
Received OTA and boy think I'm back to a new oneplus 5.
Thanks buddy for pushing me to replace battery and not blaming android update. LoL
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Lol. Never replace battery unless you know it is swelling or if it runs out on the last 15-20 faster than the last 5%.
Also, if you ever face issues, instead of calibration, delete the batterystat.bin file, and 2 reboot twice in a gap of 10 minutes. Then check 2 battery cycles, 1st at 0% and power down, and the 2nd at 1-2%, and you will know if battery is the issue or not.
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Lol. Never replace battery unless you know it is swelling or if it runs out on the last 15-20 faster than the last 5%.
Also, if you ever face issues, instead of calibration, delete the batterystat.bin file, and 2 reboot twice in a gap of 10 minutes. Then check 2 battery cycles, 1st at 0% and power down, and the 2nd at 1-2%, and you will know if battery is the issue or not.
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boy i have checked or tried everything before this. basically i was in denial that i need a battery change.