[Q] So....How on earth do I update now? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

-So, its been a while. I'm currently on MK2 and would like to finally update to the latest rootable update. If i can use hyperdrive that'd be ideal. The question: which orocess is best? I'm safestrapped. I suppose i'll first have to restore to stock mk2, then update somehow right? Can someone give me a step by step approach? (E.g. step 1) follow this link/guide and do what it says, step 2) use this link's update, step 3) root with this.) I'm so far behind on my browsing that the guides have completely lost me! I had some vague and confusing instructions from a couple friends but i lost my chat/text history and their insturctions are gone now. But as far as catching up goes, im lost...MF3 and MK2 is all i know.
EDIT: So... I've found this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642
That will allow me to Odin to any base...now the problem is...i want to Odin to a base that can use hyperdrive. It says i need 4.4.2 and NC5
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This Rom is able to be installed on the Galaxy S4 Using a MDK Custom Recovery or on 4.4.2 Base with Safestrap**
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Safestrap Users:
If you are on 4.3 rom, you must update your base to the NC5 Kitkat 4.4.2 firmware before flashing this rom: Please READ and follow the thread by Surge HERE to do so! :
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Can i just Odin to NC5? Is there another name for NC5? Im not seeing NC5 on the Odin list.
There's my problem folks.

Jamesyboy said:
-So, its been a while. I'm currently on MK2 and would like to finally update to the latest rootable update. If i can use hyperdrive that'd be ideal. The question: which orocess is best? I'm safestrapped. I suppose i'll first have to restore to stock mk2, then update somehow right? Can someone give me a step by step approach? (E.g. step 1) follow this link/guide and do what it says, step 2) use this link's update, step 3) root with this.) I'm so far behind on my browsing that the guides have completely lost me! I had some vague and confusing instructions from a couple friends but i lost my chat/text history and their insturctions are gone now. But as far as catching up goes, im lost...MF3 and MK2 is all i know.
EDIT: So... I've found this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642
That will allow me to Odin to any base...now the problem is...i want to Odin to a base that can use hyperdrive. It says i need 4.4.2 and NC5
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This Rom is able to be installed on the Galaxy S4 Using a MDK Custom Recovery or on 4.4.2 Base with Safestrap**
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Safestrap Users:
If you are on 4.3 rom, you must update your base to the NC5 Kitkat 4.4.2 firmware before flashing this rom: Please READ and follow the thread by Surge HERE to do so! :
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Can i just Odin to NC5? Is there another name for NC5? Im not seeing NC5 on the Odin list.
There's my problem folks.
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Annnddddd upon further research Nc5 appears to be the verizon build for nc1. Now the only issue/question that remains is whether to choose Ni1 or NC1. The Hyperdrive OP speaks about 4.4.2 but also mentions the NC5(NC1) build. Which is a requirement? Are they the same? Because NI1 appears to improvments according to att.
If NI1 was just released to block root or if hhperdrive requires a build match then obviously NC1 is the waymto go because the others were ruled out.

Jamesyboy said:
Annnddddd upon further research Nc5 appears to be the verizon build for nc1. Now the only issue/question that remains is whether to choose Ni1 or NC1. The Hyperdrive OP speaks about 4.4.2 but also mentions the NC5(NC1) build. Which is a requirement? Are they the same? Because NI1 appears to improvments according to att.
If NI1 was just released to block root or if hhperdrive requires a build match then obviously NC1 is the waymto go because the others were ruled out.
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You just need to be on Kitkat. You shouldn't have any issues. NB1 is the only one that actually has an ODIN file and Hyperdrive should still work on it, but I OTA'd to NJ4 and it's running fine.

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[Q] [QA] Been googling/searching... confusion on rooting AT&T i337 UCUFNI1

I'm not trying to be lazy. I've spent time searching for how to root my S4 i337, but for a newb like myself the process is extremely confusing since there seems to be so much different information out there, and not a lot about i337. From what I've discovered Towelroot no longer works as an option after I upgraded to 4.4.2 and I've tried other approaches which have failed as well. So without further ado
Is it possible to root a galaxy AT&T galaxy s4 i337 running 4.4.2 baseband I337UCUFNI1 ? If so, could someone share the links I should look at to accomplish this task?
Maybe I need to revert back to an earlier android release ? which I'm fine doing assuming something like this link should work: http://www.teamandroid.com/2014/03/30/update-att-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-android-442-kitkat-goldeneye-rom/2/
After I revert (assuming it's needed) could someone recommend the next steps(links/threads) to get me to either a custom rom or latest 4.4.2 stock build (I'd prefer a custom rom for fun, but i'm fine with whatever is easiest.)
I have Odin installed and understanding getting to download mode, but deciding which "link" to follow out there for instructions is not easy for a beginner so any recommended 'easiest' approaches for my device would be appreciated.
TIA
rickcr said:
I'm not trying to be lazy. I've spent time searching for how to root my S4 i337, but for a newb like myself the process is extremely confusing since there seems to be so much different information out there, and not a lot about i337. From what I've discovered Towelroot no longer works as an option after I upgraded to 4.4.2 and I've tried other approaches which have failed as well. So without further ado
Is it possible to root a galaxy AT&T galaxy s4 i337 running 4.4.2 baseband I337UCUFNI1 ? If so, could someone share the links I should look at to accomplish this task?
Maybe I need to revert back to an earlier android release ? which I'm fine doing assuming something like this link should work: http://www.teamandroid.com/2014/03/30/update-att-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-android-442-kitkat-goldeneye-rom/2/
After I revert (assuming it's needed) could someone recommend the next steps(links/threads) to get me to either a custom rom or latest 4.4.2 stock build (I'd prefer a custom rom for fun, but i'm fine with whatever is easiest.)
I have Odin installed and understanding getting to download mode, but deciding which "link" to follow out there for instructions is not easy for a beginner so any recommended 'easiest' approaches for my device would be appreciated.
TIA
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Subscribe to All Thing AT&T. It has all the information needed, including how to root NI1.
root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=55537351
look there for instructions. it works . Flash the older kernal using odin, if it fails to flash the first time. Repeat. After u get it to flash. Then run towelroot. After u install towelroot. Flash the ni1 kernal. You will keep root. Thats how I did mine.

[Q&A] ★ [ROM/ROOT][N900VVRUCNC4][4.4.2] Stock Root DeOdex [06/18/14] NC2/NC4/D

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will this file unroot my phone?
I want to know if these files will put my phone back to factory firmware? I accidentally unrooted, not realizing what I was doing really. This looks like the same file name (nc2kernel.tar.md5.zip ) as I have seen on other sites, but I cannot get those to download correctly. My Note 3 is with Verizon and it is running kernal. I just want my phone to be UNROOTED like I just got it out of the box. I am concerned about warranty. I am back up all and I have also dowloaded ODIN and it's ready to run.
Thanks to:
ChainFire - for superSU
Hashcode - For Safestrap For Retail Note 3's
SexTape - For the Leaked NC2 Goodness!!
Surge1223 - for starting the deodex base
BajaSur - for getting me back going on n3!!
hsbadr - For Being Brave with the nc4 firmware and giving u guys some NC4 Love First!!
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Status: Stable
Stable Release Date: 2014-06-19
Created 2014-06-19
Last Updated 2014-06-19[/QUOTE]
help getting from nc4 deodex to jellybeans b6
I followed this thread with success after many many attempts to get rooted and hacked. ive had nothing but problems with NC4 getting to this point.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627
basically ive wanted to be hacked running jellybeans ROM's since I got the phone. ive been running his ROMs on my galaxy phones for years now. so I finally was able to follow the step by step to get a stock deodexed ROM. I created on ROM SLOT 1 I wiped and installed jellybeans B6 but it just black screens. what do I need to do now to get B6 running? do I need to install the B6 ROM then again install the NC2 kernel before booting? not sure what to do next
thanks in advanced,
al
kind of a noob to rooting higher end phones
ive been rooting the cheap cricket phones ans recently ive gotten the verizon galaxay note 3 on the nc4 build. im wanting to install hyperdrive rom but im getting lost watching video after video and reading page after page. i see some people say i need permissive and some dont say anything at all. could you point me in the right direction please and thank you very much
knox0x1 said:
ive been rooting the cheap cricket phones ans recently ive gotten the verizon galaxay note 3 on the nc4 build. im wanting to install hyperdrive rom but im getting lost watching video after video and reading page after page. i see some people say i need permissive and some dont say anything at all. could you point me in the right direction please and thank you very much
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im on nc4 also. I used the towel root program to get rooted, and then installed the safestrap but I forgot which one. it wasn't the latest version I don't think but it was one of the last ones. and I had to install it a couple times to get it installed correctly. then I followed the link I posted above your post. the only downfall, now im stuck, I cant flash an other rom to the phone successfully. they all fail to boot and I have to revert back to the linked rom. id like to get on jellybeans rom, ran them on my galaxy nexus and my note 2 and he makes a great rom! good luck!
Flash Kernel in safestrap without odin
Im currently on OTA NC4 and I want to install this rom in my stock rom slot in Safestrap. (I would like to do this so I can install custom roms).
My question is, can I flash the NC2/NC4 kernel required without going into download mode and using odin?
Thanks in advance!
Been running this rom for over 8 months. Very solid. I do have two issues though bluetooth seems to skip while playing music occasionally (fresh restart fixes). I hate magazine from the center button. What options do I have to change that.
kennypasatrain said:
Im currently on OTA NC4 and I want to install this rom in my stock rom slot in Safestrap. (I would like to do this so I can install custom roms).
My question is, can I flash the NC2/NC4 kernel required without going into download mode and using odin?
Thanks in advance!
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You need to use Odin. Rather simple, just follow the instructions re Odin use. Unfortunately, the instructions for this rom found atnthe beginning of the thread neglects to mention the need for Odin to flash the kernal.
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VZW note 3 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 root
hey guys,
I just bought a Note 3 (n900v) and it has 4.4.4 and I want to root it (all of my other phones and my wife's are all rooted) but it looks like there isnt a root for 4.4.4. So I thought about downgrading to 4.4.2 and then rooting but I having trouble finding the stock rom (links are all dead) then I ran across this. Can I use this to downgrade/root my phone?
I was also wondering if it might just be easier to go to a custom rom? I have never ran a custom rom but from my understanding most of them are pre-rooted and have a lot less junk installed on them. can anyone recommend a good custom rom? (with install instructions >_<)
Thanks guys.
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Cannot save or install ROMs - Rooted, SafeStrap installed, Knox OK
Howdy, folks!
My Verizon Note 3 details: SM-N900V / Android 4.4.2 / Kernel 3.4.0-1487472 / build version NC4 / bootloader NC4 / Knox = 0x0 / Build date 4/28/14.
Device is rooted (via TowelRoot and confirmed with Titanium Backup). Safestrap 3.75 is "Installed". BusyBox 1.232 is installed.
As I understand it, in order to save or install ROMs I *must* use SafeStrap.
When I run SafeStrap the screen shows "State: Installed" and "Safe System: Not Active".
Tapping "Reboot to Recovery" does reboot the phone but I do NOT get any options to save or install any ROMs. The phone just reboots.
I thought I read somewhere I may need to (somehow) roll back to NC2...
Any ideas, folks?
Thanks!
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GS5 SM-G900T with 4.4.2 and NK2 Firmware Question

Ok, so I have searched the forums for a few days now and I'm still a bit confused on certain aspects of rooting and flashing roms.
Information:
Galaxy S5 Tmobile, SM-G900T
From what I gather from my build number I have NK2 Firmware.
It is USB debug enabled.
Drivers installed (Not with Kies so it won't interrupter the flash process.)
I have the latest version if Odin ready to go.
My understanding of the Root Process for my phone so far:
1. Find the Model of your phone and Firmware Version as well as take note on Android version. In my case from what I have read I'm going to want to downgrade to 4.2.2 to use towel root.
2. Install Drivers, set up USB debugging.
3. Download the proper ROM that you want to downgrade to making sure that it matches model and firmware.
4. Flash using ODIN following a tutorial I have saved from here.
5. Once flashed, use towel root to gain SU then Flash back over to 4.4.2 and you will have regained Root. After that you can use another ROM ETC.
Now here is where I'm confused. First off, I'm having a hell of a time finding the right ROM for me. I keep seeing explicit warning about flashing ROMS for the wrong build number. In my case it's NK2 as I stated earlier. I can't seem to find one for NK2 ANYWHERE. Also, I'm having a hell of a time finding the ROM for 4.2.2 for the G900T. What am I missing and what if anything in the instructions am I missing or potentially doing wrong once I do find the right ROM with Firmware NK2?
In short I just need clarification and possibly a pointer to the right direction of the needed ROM that's compatible with my Firmware NK2.
Any help would be much appreciated. I really am trying to read and learn as much as possible but with all the information here I'm not sure which to follow and what's outdated. Thanks.

[Q] What model (version) of s4 is exactly this?

What model (version) of s4 is exactly this phone? which software is installed on it? is it stock or not ? plzz help and tell me its complete version details
My phone is sgh-i337 or gt-i9505 ? Or only baseband version is i337...or any firmware version difference ? Help
Open the back and remove the battery. Look on the label. Unless the person who sold you the phone physically changed the label, or removed it, it will accurately tell you the hardware version of your phone.
Given that the boot loader and modem (baseband) are for the AT&T version, SGH-I337, it seems likely that the hardware is I337.
Edit: Also, check that it's not a cheap fake clone. There are apps that can check hardware, and run benchmarks, etc. Search "Genuine Galaxy" on the play store.
creepyncrawly said:
Open the back and remove the battery. Look on the label. Unless the person who sold you the phone physically changed the label, or removed it, it will accurately tell you the hardware version of your phone.
Given that the boot loader and modem (baseband) are for the AT&T version, SGH-I337, it seems likely that the hardware is I337.
Edit: Also, check that it's not a cheap fake clone. There are apps that can check hardware, and run benchmarks, etc. Search "Genuine Galaxy" on the play store.
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On back its printed gt i9505...and I installed genuine galaxy it also says its genunine and model gt i9505......but why baseband is different :/ ?
I think my baseband is of different phone but hows that possible...
why someone would change it...
ahsandon007 said:
I think my baseband is of different phone but hows that possible...
why someone would change it...
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I've really no clue. I'm not aware whether an AT&T modem will even work on that phone.
If the hardware is genuine GT-I9505, then you will most likely get a more definitive answer in the XDA-Developers forum for that phone.
ahsandon007 said:
What model (version) of s4 is exactly this phone? which software is installed on it? is it stock or not ? plzz help and tell me its complete version details
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It's most likely an I337 with an I9505 system. Either way, since the bootloader is i337, that means it's locked so if it ever was an I9505 it's not now, but mist likely it wasn't ever.
I checked indownload mode its sgh i337....can I install back stock firmware ...see this site http://www.att.com/esupport/softwareUpdateArticle.jsp?sid=KB419415&cv=820
is it possible to flash through odin this stock lollipop firmware?
Finally I got it....its i337...I checked imei on imei.info it says it is i337 and also checked for blacklist its all clean....and I opened back cover and see it and its written "MADE BY SAMAUNG" ...spelling of samsung is wrong ...it means sticker and software are of 9505 and hardware are i337 at & t usa carrier....I think its changed in korea...phone is converted....now planning to download stock firmware of i337 lollipop and install through odin...
if anyone have link plz share
ahsandon007 said:
Finally I got it....its i337...I checked imei on imei.info it says it is i337 and also checked for blacklist its all clean....and I opened back cover and see it and its written "MADE BY SAMAUNG" ...spelling of samsung is wrong ...it means sticker and software are of 9505 and hardware are i337 at & t usa carrier....I think its changed in korea...phone is converted....now planning to download stock firmware of i337 lollipop and install through odin...
if anyone have link plz share
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The boot loader is locked, so you can't do this exactly. You can install stock KitKat, install safestrap, and upgrade to lollipop that way. You need to read through the forums to understand what you are doing before you proceed. I'd suggest you do quite a bit of reading, and only flash when you are sure you know what you want to do.
creepyncrawly said:
The boot loader is locked, so you can't do this exactly. You can install stock KitKat, install safestrap, and upgrade to lollipop that way. You need to read through the forums to understand what you are doing before you proceed. I'd suggest you do quite a bit of reading, and only flash when you are sure you know what you want to do.
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Send me links of threads from which I can understand and also which kitkat version should I install ...if u explain me in detail it will be helpful ..plz
ahsandon007 said:
Send me links of threads from which I can understand and also which kitkat version should I install ...if u explain me in detail it will be helpful ..plz
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You seem to understand what you are doing. You should be able to figure this out on your own.
Start here.
Also this.
And this.
Or try some of the fine custom firmware in the Android Development forum.
ahsandon007 said:
(in a private message) Hey...there are so many things I cant understand in threads...can you plz tell me step by step how I can update to stock lollipop my sgh i337 ...safestrap etc..stuff ..thnx in advance
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I do not own this phone, so I can't test or speak from personal experience. I already gave you the links to the information you need ^^^. I don't know if you can receive Over The Air (OTA) firmware updates. You may not be able to if you're not in USA. Also, I'm not sure if you need to be on an AT&T sim. If you can, you can get stock lollipop without root with this method: go to the "[GUIDE]Odin to Stock, Updating, Rooting, and Installing Safestrap" which is the second link. Go to the second post titled "Odin to Stock, Updating, Rooting, and Safestrap Instructions" and click the button to expand the instructions for "OPTION 1 - Stock Lollipop (No ROOT)"
If you cannot receive OTA updates, then currently your option would be to first flash NB1, manually flash the NJ4 update, root and install safestrap. In the Odin to Stock guide, perform both step 1 and step 2 under "NJ4 -- KitKat 4.4.4" After this, you can use the "[How-To] Update to I337_OC3 - 5.0.1 and KeepRoot (4/7/2015) " thread, which is the third link above ^^^.
Your third option would be to wait until the developers post a method for flashing Lollipop directly from Odin.
creepyncrawly said:
I do not own this phone, so I can't test or speak from personal experience. I already gave you the links to the information you need ^^^. I don't know if you can receive Over The Air (OTA) firmware updates. You may not be able to if you're not in USA. Also, I'm not sure if you need to be on an AT&T sim. If you can, you can get stock lollipop without root with this method: go to the "[GUIDE]Odin to Stock, Updating, Rooting, and Installing Safestrap" which is the second link. Go to the second post titled "Odin to Stock, Updating, Rooting, and Safestrap Instructions" and click the button to expand the instructions for "OPTION 1 - Stock Lollipop (No ROOT)"
If you cannot receive OTA updates, then currently your option would be to first flash NB1, manually flash the NJ4 update, root and install safestrap. In the Odin to Stock guide, perform both step 1 and step 2 under "NJ4 -- KitKat 4.4.4" After this, you can use the "[How-To] Update to I337_OC3 - 5.0.1 and KeepRoot (4/7/2015) " thread, which is the third link above ^^^.
Your third option would be to wait until the developers post a method for flashing Lollipop directly from Odin.
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I successfuly updated to 4.4.2 stock NB1 software manually thorough odin then manually flashed NJ4 by stock recovery...now im not receiving ota update to lolipop....now what nxt to do ? should i root NJ4 and install OC3...
And actually I dont want to root i nedd unrooted stock OC3 ...if you know any direct method to flash..
After update to nj4 4.4.4 im getting delays in sending text msgs and making calls....what to do now should i flash different modem or baseband any ideas ?? :/
Now that you have updated your user account, we can see that you are in Faisalabad, Pakistan using Mobilink carrier. As far as I know, you will not be able to receive an over the air update, nor be able to use Kies to update. Someone who knows more could give a definitive answer on this.
Assuming that you will be unable to use OTA or Kies, your options are:
- root, install safestrap, install rooted OC3
- wait unitl (and if) developers post an Odin flashable version of stock unrooted OC3.
As far as your other issues, you could install the NB1 modem (baseband) and see if that clears up the issues, as it was working before.
creepyncrawly said:
Now that you have updated your user account, we can see that you are in Faisalabad, Pakistan using Mobilink carrier. As far as I know, you will not be able to receive an over the air update, nor be able to use Kies to update. Someone who knows more could give a definitive answer on this.
Assuming that you will be unable to use OTA or Kies, your options are:
- root, install safestrap, install rooted OC3
- wait unitl (and if) developers post an Odin flashable version of stock unrooted OC3.
As far as your other issues, you could install the NB1 modem (baseband) and see if that clears up the issues, as it was working before.
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I downgraded modem to NB1 and no signal then i used OC3 modem it works bit better than previous one.....lags sometimes ...is there any way to flash 9505 modem to i337 phone ? :/
I upgraded to 5.0.1 using keeproot method of flashfire...thanks broo very very much.....
baseband problem still exists on OC3 modem....i maximum get 3/5 signal bars....can i flash i9505 modem using mobile odin or ant method ?
EDIT: i flashed successfuly 9505 modem but baseband version goes unknown and no sim/signal....is there any fix? Flashing efs?
What if I dwld 9505 lolipop from sammobile and install by odin or flashfire?

Noob questions- Please help me with rooting! Some specific questions:

Dear Benevolent Android Wizards: please help me root an AT&T S4! I plan to buy a used S4 and want to make sure it can be rooted. Are some firmware versions rootable and some not? If so, which ones? I've seen phones available running I337UCUFNB1 and NJ4, as an example. I tried to check the forums here, but I'm new to this and it's too confusing. Also, as time passes, some of the comments become dated and wrong. One forums here say to downgrade NC1 by flashing NB1, take OTA update to NC1, then OTA to NL1- but I don't know if these OTAs are still available, for example. I'm simple and hope someone can explain things in a simple way! I don't want custom ROMs, just to root and maybe make backups. Please help, O Wise Ones!
You will probably buy a phone with at least 4.4.2 or above. It can be rooted by flashing the NB1 firmware (if it is not already on NB1), flashing the NC1 kernel and rooting with Towelroot. Then you can upgrade to 4.4.4 or 5.0.1, depending on what you want. You can install Safestrap to do backups on KitKat or Flashfire to do backups on Lolipop.
Here is a good place to start reading. Contains all info and links you need.
Thanks a lot!
So you're saying that any S4 running 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 should be able to be rooted?
And I would use Odin to flash NB1 firmware and then NC1 kernel (also using Odin?), then Towelroot would work?
How do I get the phone back to the firmware and kernel it came with?- also with Odin?
Yes. Or 5.0.1 for that matter.
You can root phones with earlier versions of the firmware as well.
All the instructions you need are available in the thread I linked above. You probably don't want to go back to what firmware came on the phone. You will need to decide if you want KitKat, in which case you should flash the latest one, which is NJ5, or Lolipop, in which case you will have some decisions to make as well.
Thanks, I will definitely read that whole thread once I get a chance.
Isn't there some issue with changing firmware where the software changes how the phone interfaces with the cell and wifi radios and they don't work right after you change version? Don't you have to do something to make sure the ROM and radio software stay in sync? Or isn't that an issue when changing stock ROMs with Odin?
Shouldn't be an issue. The stock firmware includes the corresponding modem, but the modems are interchangeable and can be flashed separately. There is a thread dedicated to modems in the general forum.
I would definitely recommend that you read enough to be comfortable with what you are going to do before you flash. There are several good threads in the general forum that you should familiarize yourself with.
Thanks again. I read 10 pages of the thread you mentioned in your first reply:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642
Very helpful
Another question- you said to load NB1 firmware on the phone, but also NC1 kernel, apparently, NC1 is required for towelroot to work. Why not just load NC1 firmware- won't the NC1 kernel will come along? Is NB1 firmware specifically needed for some reason?
Or did you mean to keep upgrading from NB1to reach the final desired firmware, say NL1, then flash the NC1 kernel, root with towelroot, then flash the final desired (in my example, NL1) kernel.
Also, the first section in that link says if you want to end up on Lollipop OC3 or OC4, to root using Kingroot, but warns "there is mixed feeling about this application". Can't I root with towelroot instead to avoid Kingroot?
Sorry! As I learn more it brings up new questions.
xdafan15 said:
Thanks again. I read 10 pages of the thread you mentioned in your first reply:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642
Very helpful
Another question- you said to load NB1 firmware on the phone, but also NC1 kernel, apparently, NC1 is required for towelroot to work. Why not just load NC1 firmware- won't the NC1 kernel will come along? Is NB1 firmware specifically needed for some reason?
Or did you mean to keep upgrading from NB1to reach the final desired firmware, say NL1, then flash the NC1 kernel, root with towelroot, then flash the final desired (in my example, NL1) kernel.
Also, the first section in that link says if you want to end up on Lollipop OC3 or OC4, to root using Kingroot, but warns "there is mixed feeling about this application". Can't I root with towelroot instead to avoid Kingroot?
Sorry! As I learn more it brings up new questions.
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NB1 is the only full stock tar available. There is no full NC1 stock tar, or any other 4.4.2 or above stock tar. No matter which distribution you are on, 4.4.2 4.4.4 or 5.0.1, to go back to stock you have to flash NB1 with Odin.
If you want Lolipop, I would suggest that you root with towelroot, and then use the keep root method to go to OC4.
I'm trying to decide if I should update up to NJ5, OC3, or OC4. Any thoughts about advantages/disadvantages? Should I just update to the latest (OC4) for simplicity?
I don't have an opinion between KitKat and Lolipop.
As far as OC3 or OC4, the OC4 update is just a bug fix update from OC3 that supposedly protects from at least part of the stagefright vulnerability. NJ5 is the same update with respect to JN4.
I'm making more progress on your thread- I'm up to page 20 now and feeling much more comfortable as I see how to deal with (or hopefully avoid) other's problems.
I think I'm almost ready to go, but I know I have one more question- I know that some versions of towelroot need internet access, but when you flash the NC1 kernel onto NB1, you lose wifi. I plan to do this on a phone that will not have data, at least at the beginning. I saw others talk about getting around this and they said they used an earlier version of towelroot that didn't need internet. Do you think that will work for me?
If I get a chance, I'll edit here and list the specific older version.
squatting in this thread because I too have an s4 w/ ni1 bootloader (4.4.2) .. gonna check that thread out too ... (fist bumps @xdafan15 .. me and u are the lone desperados)
got some good help too. check that thread about ALL THINGS ROOT in the general tab.
I found the version of towelroot v3 that doesn't need internet access. It is referenced here in the first post.
File here
 @creepyncrawly or anyone else who knows: Is is OK to use this version to root instead of the normal version of towelroot 3 that needs internet access?
xdafan15 said:
I found the version of towelroot v3 that doesn't need internet access. It is referenced here in the first post.
File here creepyncrawly or anyone else who knows: Is is OK to use this version to root instead of the normal version of towelroot 3 that needs internet access?
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Go ahead at try it. I don't actually have the S4, so I don't know from first hand experience, but it will either work or it won't. I expect it will work.
I got a surprise- I bought a used S4 and when I checked it, found out it has 4.2.2, MDL- one of the rare ones that was never updated and still has the unlocked bootloader! So all of the work I've been doing was somewhat off target.
Now I guess I need to root 4.2.2 and flash a custom rom to get the phone updated. If I update with the stock firmware it'll lock the bootloader permanently.
I found instructions to root on the first post here "[HOW-TO] The ULTIMATE All-In-One Guide - I337M & MDL - MF3 - MK2"
Is that the correct method?
I wonder if I can just load towelroot and root that way?
Can anyone suggest an updated ROM (preferably one that has been patched against stagefright)?
Do I also flash this phone using Odin? And does the firmware always go in the "AP" slot?
Sorry, I'm trying to learn this and I thought I'd be using the locked bootloader method in the 2nd post.
MDL oh don't let that bad boy ever update. You can root and unroot as often as you like.
Can you please help me understand what to do? I have a Samsung Galaxy s4 with AT&T that I switched to Straight Talk. I need to know how to root this phone but this forum is very confusing and outdated. Plz help me!
Hi, @Tmtd78. The S4 is getting pretty old now so this forum is pretty quiet. What version of android does your phone have? Under *Settings*, *About device*, what are the last 3 characters under *Build number*? I think every version of android on this phone can be rooted, but you will have to spend some time here to learn how everything works. Did you read the posts linked earlier by @creepyncrawly? Read the first and last 10 or 20 pages of each thread of interest and you will get the idea. The method you use will depend on the firmware your phone has. If it has the mdl or mdb bootloader, you probably will want to make sure the firmware doesn't update.
By the way, to @creepyncrawly and @engloa, thanks for your help. I was able to learn how to successfully root my S4, load a custom recovery, make backups, load a custom ROM, and make some tweaks to the kernel. Everything is running well now.
It was a long road, but everything was here on XDA and I appreciate your help.
@xdafan15, the build number is NI1. And I will definitely read the posts. I really appreciate you getting back with me so fast. I'm just scared I'm going to mess something up lol.
Sure thing. I'm not an expert, just a beginner, but I have learned a few things along the way. The NI1 bootloader is locked so you will need to follow the instructions for using Odin under the first post shown above by @creepyncrawly (here). Also, read this one. Also, this.
As long as you are 1) careful to not load code incompatible with an AT&T S4 onto your device and 2) follow instructions EXACTLY you should be fine. Be wary of following instructions listed on a forum that is not specific to the AT&T S4. Don't get sloppy and try to do stuff from memory- read and follow the instructions step by step. The good news is as long as you don't cause as few specific types of problems with your storage, I think you'll be able to Odin back to the NB1 firmware and start over.
Learn how to and practice booting your phone into download and recovery modes.
Get Odin running on your computer and see if it will recognize your device. A guide here. I think .tar or .tar.md5 files always go in the *AP* slot if memory serves. You may also see references to an older version of Odin where the *AP* slot was called *PDA*

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