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Eventhough I'm not currently in a 4G market, the EVO has me excited however I'd like to get the best deal possible particularly as I'd be using it perhaps 80+% on Wi-Fi off their network.
1) Full retail price: $450 or $600 as I'm not sure I want to sign a 2 yr contract? If I do sign a 2yr contract is the ETF a monthly prorated $200 & would that have any effect on my credit rating-report?
2) Discounts: I've heard suggestions of setting up a simple $10 savings account at a Credit Union to get a 10% Sprint discount, any comments/other discount ideas to minimize that monthly fee?
3) Rooting: Just to clarify does rooting void the warranty & if so do you have any qualms doing it day1?
-Thanks & would be cool to develop for Android/EVO..
Not sure if this info is right but I got it from sprint rep. I asked if I bought the phone straight out what deal would I get. She said its the same plan either way and I would have to have a 2 yr contract even if i didn't buy the phone from them. So no discount and still have to have 2 yr contract. Can anyone confirm this info?
Plans: In order to have an Evo you MUST have an Everything Data Plan. You MUST pay $10 dollars additional to add Premium Data to your plan. You MAY pay $29.99 for the Wi-Fi Hotspot feature.
Discounts: Sprint offers discounts to pretty much every company out there. Heck, some companies only require you know someone who works there to get the discount!
If you are out of contract, you can often call Customer Service and get an additional discount just for resigning, and then still upgrade (and thus resign) a few days later. But it has to be done in that order!
However, these discounts do NOT apply to the $10 Premium Data, $29.99 Wi-Fi Hotspot, or $7 TEP. Only to the actual plan!
Contract: If you are a NEW customer, you MUST agree to a 2 year contract, even if you don't take the discount. So take the discount.
If you are an existing customer and want the discounted price ($199 after $100 MIR) you MUST sign a 2 year contract AND be eligible for upgrade.
If you are an existing customer and got an Evo from a friend or I/O Attendee, you do NOT have to sign a contract. You can change the plan, add the services, add TEP, and add the Hotspot without changing your contract. You'll even be eligible to upgrade on your regular date!
Where did you get the $600 price? I thought the phone was $450 without a discount and $199 with a rebate/discount for an upgrade/new contract.
The reason I ask is I am only 8 months into my contract, so am I going to have to pay $450 or $600?
Also, a friend said he had a Bowing Credit Union account, got him a 20% discount.
$450 is the official price from a Sprint corporate store, $600 is the BestBuy full retail price.
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$450 is the official price from a Sprint corporate store, $600 is the BestBuy full retail price.
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Wow, I didn't know that. Why on earth would anyone get it from BestBuy?
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Plans: In order to have an Evo you MUST have an Everything Data Plan. You MUST pay $10 dollars additional to add Premium Data to your plan. You MAY pay $29.99 for the Wi-Fi Hotspot feature.
Discounts: Sprint offers discounts to pretty much every company out there. Heck, some companies only require you know someone who works there to get the discount!
If you are out of contract, you can often call Customer Service and get an additional discount just for resigning, and then still upgrade (and thus resign) a few days later. But it has to be done in that order!
However, these discounts do NOT apply to the $10 Premium Data, $29.99 Wi-Fi Hotspot, or $7 TEP. Only to the actual plan!
Contract: If you are a NEW customer, you MUST agree to a 2 year contract, even if you don't take the discount. So take the discount.
If you are an existing customer and want the discounted price ($199 after $100 MIR) you MUST sign a 2 year contract AND be eligible for upgrade.
If you are an existing customer and got an Evo from a friend or I/O Attendee, you do NOT have to sign a contract. You can change the plan, add the services, add TEP, and add the Hotspot without changing your contract. You'll even be eligible to upgrade on your regular date!
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Ok so since I'm new to Sprint it sounds like I would have to sign a 2 yr contract for access to their network & should take their discounted price-Is it a monthly prorated $200 ETF (& would that have any effect on my credit rating-report)?
I was going to link to the 10% Credit Union Sprint Discount but can't as a new user here yet, any other specific significant accessible discounts to consider (wow Sirchuk 20% Bowing Credit Union account, I'll have to look into that-thanks)?
Is the radio shack pre-order by 5/31 the best deal out there? $7 TEP worth it? Are you gonna root it? -Appreciate the replies
If you pay the $200 ETF then it won't go against your credit, but if you don't pay it (just like any other bill) they could take you to collections and then it will hurt your credit. Keep in mind in order to get the rebate you will still need to keep the phone on sprint for X period of time or they'll deny the rebate.
Also, I don't believe the amount is prorated monthly at all. You are agreeing to 2 years and thus get a discount on the phone.
Well, I'm new to xda and as such can't post links.. So google search on,
mcguireslaw
If you will be new to Sprint, go here, for probably the best available discount, if you don't work for a medium or big comapny. Read the link on the right of page (Special Sprint Offer), and click through it.
If you are currently on Sprint (or not), and work for a mid to large company, google seach on,
evpdiscount
and plug your company name in. These are without a doubt the best available discounts, and can simply be added to existing service.
A few examples,
evpdiscount.com/ibm
evpdiscount.com/ups
evpdiscount.com/cisco
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Ok so since I'm new to Sprint it sounds like I would have to sign a 2 yr contract for access to their network & should take their discounted price
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Agreed. Probably why they do it that way!
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Is it a monthly prorated $200 ETF (& would that have any effect on my credit rating-report)?
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The ETF is $200 until month 5, then goes down by $10 every month until only $50 remains. And no, if you pay the ETF and final bill (make sure you pay it ALL!) by the bill due date (like any bill) it doesn't affect your credit.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
I was going to link to the 10% Credit Union Sprint Discount but can't as a new user here yet, any other specific significant accessible discounts to consider (wow Sirchuk 20% Bowing Credit Union account, I'll have to look into that-thanks)?
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It's called an NVP discount, and there are (literally) hundreds. They range from 5% to 25% based on where you work. So go into a store and get it setup!
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Is the radio shack pre-order by 5/31 the best deal out there?
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Define "deal". Sam's Club has the cheapest price ($160) last I checked, Radio Shack and Bestbuy both will do it out the door with no MIR and have cheaper accessories. But those same accessories void your mfg. warranty the second you plug them into your phone. Plus you're going to have to call customer service to get any discounts added to your plan.
Corporate stores will require the MIR (Extra hundred bucks up front), but will setup your discount johnny on the spot (should you qualify and I'll bet dollars to dimes you do!) and walk you through the entire setup up the phone (They call it "Ready Now")
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$7 TEP worth it?
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Absolutely. If something in the phone fails or needs to be cleaned take it to a local Sprint Service center. They either repair or replace at no charge, and replacements are usually in your hands within 3-5 days (unlimited). If you bust the screen out, get water in it, loose it or get it stolen call Asurion and for $100 they send you another (up to 3 a year).
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Are you gonna root it?
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Whatever it takes to make my AVI's play from my phone onto my TV. This phone is cutting my need for a PC in HALF!!
go through EPRP
sprint.com/sero
[email protected]
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tatnai said:
go through EPRP
sprint.com/sero
[email protected]
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So through that link the Everything Plus™ Data - 500 Anytime Minutes is $59.99+the$10 EVO charge, so we're talking ~$70+taxes/mo as the best deal?
I would have to set that up through Sprint & why doesn't Sprint just match reseller deals while annoying new customers with a mail-in rebate?
-Thanks
tatnai said:
go through EPRP
sprint.com/sero
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is there anyway to change my current plan to those prices with this information, or new lines only?
tatnai said:
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I thought you couldn't use a SERO plan with the EVO? (or any recent smarphone short of the TP2) Or is EPRP different from SERO and I'm just being thrown off by the fact that it says /sero on the URL in your post?
Edit: Nevermind, I figured it out... For anyone not familiar, SERO is an old/outdated set of discount plans Sprint used to offer (based on employee referral), EPRP is the current/modern iteration of that and apparently you can use the EVO on such a plan (and you can upgrade a SERO plan to EPRP too), but it's possible you may not be able to actually buy the EVO w/an EPRP plan until July (judging by what Sprint employees have stated elsewhere), due to the fact that you need to get the phone directly thru Sprint with the plan in order to be able to get on the EPRP and they're locking out the EVO from the EPRPs 'till then (like they did w/the Pre), so that's a bit of a letdown.
Am I right? Kind of a downer, I would've loved to save an extra $10 a month but I don't think I can wait 'till July! Thanks for the info anyway.
Edit: Also, getting on the EPRP and knocking $10 off the bill for a single line plan would disqualify you for Sprint Premier status anyway (since your base bill has to be $69.99+/month), so if anyone wants to be able to upgrade/renew every year you're better off w/the regular plans, as long as you don't mind the higher bill (worth it imo). That is unless you're getting an EPRP family plan of $99 or more, then you still qualify, such as the $110 EPRP 1600 min plan... Which is a big discount over the standard $130 for 1500.
I've got a question, say I sign a contract for a single line $69.99 plan this month, could I later upgrade that to an EPRP family/share plan?
Yeah what he said..just trying to plan this out so I have this phone next weekend or maybe I should calm down & wait until...mid June ?
I'm currently on AT&T and I'm not even waiting 'till the 7th (Monday after the EVO launches), even tho supposedly they've got some big (non-Apple) announcements then. Just sick and tired of waiting for them to release a solid Android phone, the EVO is calling my name! 'Specially after I discovered I can get a 15% discount on my monthly bill thru StudentRate and still qualify for Premier status. That basically makes EPRP irrelevant for me since it's the same amount of discount but w/no caveats; and StudentRate's also got a sweet offer for those ordering the EVO online on the 4th, after 2 different credits you basically end up paying $125 for it w/no activation fees and free overnight shipping, tough to beat. I don't mind waiting 'till Monday if it means saving $110!
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I thought you couldn't use a SERO plan with the EVO? (or any recent smarphone short of the TP2) Or is EPRP different from SERO and I'm just being thrown off by the fact that it says /sero on the URL in your post?
Edit: Nevermind, I figured it out... For anyone not familiar, SERO is an old/outdated set of discount plans Sprint used to offer (based on employee referral), EPRP is the current/modern iteration of that and apparently you can use the EVO on such a plan (and you can upgrade a SERO plan to EPRP too), but it's possible you may not be able to actually buy the EVO w/an EPRP plan until July (judging by what Sprint employees have stated elsewhere), due to the fact that you need to get the phone directly thru Sprint with the plan in order to be able to get on the EPRP and they're locking out the EVO from the EPRPs 'till then (like they did w/the Pre), so that's a bit of a letdown.
Am I right? Kind of a downer, I would've loved to save an extra $10 a month but I don't think I can wait 'till July! Thanks for the info anyway.
Edit: Also, getting on the EPRP and knocking $10 off the bill for a single line plan would disqualify you for Sprint Premier status anyway (since your base bill has to be $69.99+/month), so if anyone wants to be able to upgrade/renew every year you're better off w/the regular plans, as long as you don't mind the higher bill (worth it imo). That is unless you're getting an EPRP family plan of $99 or more, then you still qualify, such as the $110 EPRP 1600 min plan... Which is a big discount over the standard $130 for 1500.
I've got a question, say I sign a contract for a single line $69.99 plan this month, could I later upgrade that to an EPRP family/share plan?
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1. not sure about sprint premier with the 59.99 plan. previously, SERO plans got special treatment even though they didn't qualify for it by their cost structure (phone upgrade discounts, etc), it might be the same with EPRP, you'd have to call and ask
2. very difficult to more from a regular plan into an EPRP. If you want it, sign up with it
3. sprint distinguishes employees from regular users on a referral plan. my rep says I can get it friday. i'll post back friday.
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Define "deal". Sam's Club has the cheapest price ($160) last I checked, Radio Shack and Bestbuy both will do it out the door with no MIR and have cheaper accessories. But those same accessories void your mfg. warranty the second you plug them into your phone. Plus you're going to have to call customer service to get any discounts added to your plan.
Corporate stores will require the MIR (Extra hundred bucks up front), but will setup your discount johnny on the spot (should you qualify and I'll bet dollars to dimes you do!) and walk you through the entire setup up the phone (They call it "Ready Now")
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The only way using a charger voids your warranty is if you tell them you used a non-OEM charger when making your claim And why would you do that? Not to mention that Radioshack, at least, can set up discounts right in the store. Radioshack will also walk you through using the device (if you've never owned a smartphone before and need it). We call it "customer service."
Try this link for 25% off all plans
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699240
According to a lot of different posts on sprintusers.com, EPRP plans under the cost limit for Premier don't qualify for it, period. Corporate discounts and other stuff don't preclude you from Premier status but EPRP does (it's not treated as a discount but a separate set of plans, which it is pretty much since some of the minute allotments vary).
Anyway, I'm going ahead w/the 15% StudentRate discount plans, I can get the EVO thru them for $125 anyway... Seems a little more honest than getting in on the 25% Time Warner deal heh (since I AM a student). I'm just wondering if you can upgrade your plan at any time (say, to a Share Plan) when using these discounts.
http://consumerist.com/2010/08/sprint-hikes-prices-by-dumping-discounts.html
If Sprint changes the terms of service on your existing contract, you have the right to end it with no ETF and keep your phone.
Not saying I want to get out of my contract, but last time Sprint changed their TOS, tons of ppl haggled their way into getting $20 off per month for 24 months in order to NOT break their contract.
You have 30 days from when the charge first appears on your bill. So if your BILLING date is Aug 23, you have until Sept. 22 to assert your right to cancel.
Update:
From Sprint's contract, you can only cancel the affected lines
Our Right To Change The Agreement & Your Related Rights
We may change any part of the Agreement at any time, including, but not limited to, rates, charges, how we calculate charges, or your terms of Service. We will provide you notice of material changes, and may provide you notice of non-material changes, in a manner consistent with this Agreement (see "Providing Notice To Each Other Under The Agreement" section). If a change we make to the Agreement is material and has a material adverse effect on Services under your Term Commitment, you may terminate each line of Service materially affected without incurring an Early Termination Fee only if you: (a) call us within 30 days after the effective date of the change; and (b) specifically advise us that you wish to cancel Services because of a material change to the Agreement that we have made. If you do not cancel Service within 30 days of the change, an Early Termination Fee will apply if you terminate Services before the end of any applicable Term Commitment.
Update 2: Several people have reported getting credited back what is being "un-discounted" from their bill.
itmustbejj said:
http://consumerist.com/2010/08/sprint-hikes-prices-by-dumping-discounts.html
If Sprint changes the terms of service on your existing contract, you have the right to end it with no ETF and keep your phone.
Not saying I want to get out of my contract, but last time Sprint changed their TOS, tons of ppl haggled their way into getting $20 off per month for 24 months in order to NOT break their contract.
And before you freak out, this really isn't that big of a deal IIRC, your base discount goes on your main plan, so I think it's saying the +20 per lines 3-5 will no longer be eligible for the discount.
But still, I wouldn't mind getting in on some of that 20/24 action....
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i have 4 phones and with my discount ( 27% ) i pay 180ish a month for unlimited everything not sure ill be happy if my discount drops off the other 2 lines might have to raise a stink about this
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i have 4 phones and with my discount ( 27% ) i pay 180ish a month for unlimited everything not sure ill be happy if my discount drops off the other 2 lines might have to raise a stink about this
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Ahhh so you are a citi group "employee"
itmustbejj said:
http://consumerist.com/2010/08/sprint-hikes-prices-by-dumping-discounts.html
If Sprint changes the terms of service on your existing contract, you have the right to end it with no ETF and keep your phone.
Not saying I want to get out of my contract, but last time Sprint changed their TOS, tons of ppl haggled their way into getting $20 off per month for 24 months in order to NOT break their contract.
And before you freak out, this really isn't that big of a deal IIRC, your base discount goes on your main plan, so I think it's saying the +20 per lines 3-5 will no longer be eligible for the discount.
But still, I wouldn't mind getting in on some of that 20/24 action....
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Do I have to terminate my plan if I want to get out of my contract? Or can I get out of my contract and go month to month?
How much time has to pass before you can sign up with them again?
you have to wait atleast 3 to 6 months.. should i stay or should i go now? i can get the same phone on clear in another month, can just go to boost for a month or two until its out... but i did pay $500 for this thing...
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Ahhh so you are a citi group "employee"
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no im not, mines legit lol i have this discount for about 10 years
That sucks. I signed up with 4 lines in June 2010 with 25% discount. My bill is now $170, so with this new policy, it'll be $180. That's more than what I was paying for AT&T with 4 lines. Might have to talk to Sprint and figure out if something can be done as one of the main reasons for moving to Sprint was due to it's price and now it's really not much of a difference.
If they change the TOS, can I cancel the contract and just pay them monthly as if my contract expired?
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If they change the TOS, can I cancel the contract and just pay them monthly as if my contract expired?
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No. You are canceling the contract and your service goes with it.
if this affects you (2 or more lines) you can always setup a new account with another person on your account as the primary account holder, or just use boost after cancelling and sign up with clear after they sign up.
Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch, this change is only going to affect people with an old "add a line" plans. I found another post about this subject in another forum, and sprint isn't changing anything for the newer "unlimited" plans. Chances are, if you're using a smart phone, you aren't using the old plans where you had options to add data, add text, add internet, etc. And really, I would think that if you have an old plan where you only get limited minutes and you're buying a text plan, buying data, buying picture mail, and anything else .. you're probably paying too much and you should have changed your plan a long time ago.
Or so I hope what I found is correct, we have a family plan with 5 lines. Lol
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That sucks. I signed up with 4 lines in June 2010 with 25% discount. My bill is now $170, so with this new policy, it'll be $180. That's more than what I was paying for AT&T with 4 lines. Might have to talk to Sprint and figure out if something can be done as one of the main reasons for moving to Sprint was due to it's price and now it's really not much of a difference.
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We just signed up 3 lines with the 1500 min. /mo any mobile any time plan - all 3 evos. I have a 23% student discount and that's the reason I went with sprint. It works out to $52 bucks a month x3 phones, but if that's ending, then will cancel sprint and just go with the iphone 4 on att, keep the evos and sell them.
I'm actually kind of pissed about this, but if I can have a iphone 4 for the same price sprint will go up to, then I might as well have that.
FYI - depsite what the post on Consumerist says, I've been hearing elsewhere that Sprint does not consider this a "materially adverse change" and won't waive your ETF because of it. I don't care either way personally because it's still cheaper than any comprable family plan on Verizon or AT&T.
I'm chatting with a rep right now about this new ToS change.
The discount will only apply to the first 2 lines of any family plan after the said date!
Call this number if you want to find out for sure if you can get out ETF free and keep your phones: 1888-211-4727
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We just signed up 3 lines with the 1500 min. /mo any mobile any time plan - all 3 evos. I have a 23% student discount and that's the reason I went with sprint. It works out to $52 bucks a month x3 phones, but if that's ending, then will cancel sprint and just go with the iphone 4 on att, keep the evos and sell them.
I'm actually kind of pissed about this, but if I can have a iphone 4 for the same price sprint will go up to, then I might as well have that.
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I'm pissed as well. I paid like $350 in ETFs and got rid of my ATT phones because with the discounts, I knew I would be paying less with Sprint. I also paid about $700 for the 4 Sprint phones (2 Evo and 2 blackberry).
I chatted with a Sprint rep and he said they will no longer offer discounts to lines 3-5 on services less than $29.99.
I'd switch back to ATT if I can get out without paying the ETF with Sprint.
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I'm pissed as well. I paid like $350 in ETFs and got rid of my ATT phones because with the discounts, I knew I would be paying less with Sprint. I also paid about $700 for the 4 Sprint phones (2 Evo and 2 blackberry).
I chatted with a Sprint rep and he said they will no longer offer discounts to lines 3-5 on services less than $29.99.
I'd switch back to ATT if I can get out without paying the ETF with Sprint.
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So does that mean my $29.99 Evo family line is still discounted?
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Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch, this change is only going to affect people with an old "add a line" plans. I found another post about this subject in another forum, and sprint isn't changing anything for the newer "unlimited" plans. Chances are, if you're using a smart phone, you aren't using the old plans where you had options to add data, add text, add internet, etc. And really, I would think that if you have an old plan where you only get limited minutes and you're buying a text plan, buying data, buying picture mail, and anything else .. you're probably paying too much and you should have changed your plan a long time ago.
Or so I hope what I found is correct, we have a family plan with 5 lines. Lol
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i hope you are right my phone plan rocks ! and would hate to loose it
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That sucks. I signed up with 4 lines in June 2010 with 25% discount. My bill is now $170, so with this new policy, it'll be $180. That's more than what I was paying for AT&T with 4 lines. Might have to talk to Sprint and figure out if something can be done as one of the main reasons for moving to Sprint was due to it's price and now it's really not much of a difference.
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So does that mean my $29.99 Evo family line is still discounted?
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I chatted with a rep an hour ago and got this:
The discount will only apply to the first 2 lines of any family plan after the said date!
Call this number if you want to find out for sure if you can get out ETF free and keep your phones: 1888-211-4727
Orrrr, we could always just call this number instead and actually get some where.
http://consumerist.com/2007/05/spri...eader-executive-customer-service-hotline.html
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FYI - depsite what the post on Consumerist says, I've been hearing elsewhere that Sprint does not consider this a "materially adverse change" and won't waive your ETF because of it. I don't care either way personally because it's still cheaper than any comprable family plan on Verizon or AT&T.
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"materially adverse" means "affecting your money". All the carriers do this, they posture and try to downplay the change to the TOS for 30 days after it goes into effect because by that time it's too late to get out of your contract.
The fact remains, you signed a contract with determined terms. If they change that contract before it expires YOU ARE NO LONGER BOUND TO IT. Don't let them BS you, know they are bound to the contract just as much as you are. Stand up for yourself if you are unhappy about this.
Please I need some clarification on how the "Pay as you go" data plan works with Verizon for the XOOM. My only experience is with the iPad and AT&T, where it was very simply and user friendly, I just had to purchase the data from the iPad itself and pay with my Credit Card, no calls to customer service, and I can cancel it anytime from the iPad itself. Based on a quick conversation with a Verizon rep, with Verizon it's much more complicated, I have to actually setup an account with Verizon, use the XOOM with the monthly contract data plan, and when I want to cancel it I have to call customer service and close the account, the same thing to activate the plan again, is that true that it's so complicated ?, I think the way how Apple implemented it with AT&T is very effective and simple, I don't know if with the iPad 2 Verizon will have a different option. Please could you add your comments based on your experience ?, thanks
its true and will apparently incur an activation fee each time service is restarted. Verizon really wants you to get a data plan and keep it :-(
Today I was ready to buy the Verizon XOOM, and use the data as "pay as you go", but after I understood the way how Verizon manages "pay as you go data", I will never invest on something that it will be so complicated and expensive to use. I'll have to wait for the Wifi only XOOM.
Supposedly you don't have to pay an activation fee of $35 bucks but rather you can suspend your account for $15. Still a major deal breaker but maybe when the iPad 2 is released they will change their policy.
Ya it really sucks. I purchased my Xoom and returned it after a week. Day after i returned it i got a Bill from VZN for almost 60 bucks for my "activation fee" + "1 month Data". I actually had to call up VZN and speak to a representative to "see what they could do". Fortunately i got an absolute sweetheart of a rep and was sure to be equally as sweet back. though i didnt get %100 credit. She was able to reduce my bill to $2.39 for the cost of my prorated data for 2 days. While most people would probably argue about that i said that was fine and will pay that bill when i get it.
Im not sure if they do the same thing with the Ipad 3G for ATT(even though i own one) but with the Xoom your data plan actually has a Phone number in addition to the ACCT number associated with it. So thats where all these stupid fees are coming from, they treat it like your actually opening up a new cellphone contract. IPad was 1(setup),2(pay),3(Surf)
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Ya it really sucks. I purchased my Xoom and returned it after a week. Day after i returned it i got a Bill from VZN for almost 60 bucks for my "activation fee" + "1 month Data". I actually had to call up VZN and speak to a representative to "see what they could do". Fortunately i got an absolute sweetheart of a rep and was sure to be equally as sweet back. though i didnt get %100 credit. She was able to reduce my bill to $2.39 for the cost of my prorated data for 2 days. While most people would probably argue about that i said that was fine and will pay that bill when i get it.
Im not sure if they do the same thing with the Ipad 3G for ATT(even though i own one) but with the Xoom your data plan actually has a Phone number in addition to the ACCT number associated with it. So thats where all these stupid fees are coming from, they treat it like your actually opening up a new cellphone contract. IPad was 1(setup),2(pay),3(Surf)
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That was nice of her!
has anyone seen this? it is not the first time I've heard that Verizon wants to go head to head with AT&T (is no activation fee each time). Read in the comments.
We'll see tomorrow. I will go into a store and ask.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPad...from-AT-T-and-Verizon-go-head-to-head_id17305
The verizon rep i spoke to when I setup my month to month accounts that its simply$20 a month plus a little tax and the stupid 35 dollar activation fee. . . as long as you have them bill you for it - but without a contract.
If you want to pre-pay they charge you a $30 fee every month . . . thats right, if I want to be a thrifty consumer and pay as I go so I don't overspend, they charge a fee thats MORE than the cost of service.
Just to clarify, if you want to prepay as opposed to having them bill you (both options without a contract), they charge $50/month for 1GB.
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Also note: the "suspension" option can be done online, I believe, without the $15 fee, but it can only be done twice a year for 90 days max each time. So, that's not an option unless you can plan your year pretty carefully.
I'm going to swap my 3G version out for the wifi-only version as soon as it's available. I was told when I purchased mine that data could be turned on and off as needed without any fees, and so I won't have any qualms about exercising the 90-day return policy at Costco.
It seems Verizon will enable "true pay as you go" capabilities for the iPad 2
http://news.vzw.com/news/2011/03/pr2011-03-09y.html
Why not the XOOM ?
I've called customer service several times today. I bought my xoom on contract because I wanted to have 3g data but was specifically told I couldn't activate it whenever I wanted and I was just better off keeping the minimum $20/1gb plan. So I said if I'm going to have to pay that anyway, I might as well get it subsidized. In other words I was specifically told that vzw would not have that option. Of course, my two weeks are up today and they may change it!!
I would be very mad. I would have definitely bought my xoom without contract. I have called several times and I keep getting different answers. I'm going to go to the store tomorrow and find out. If anyone finds anything definitive, I'd love to see it. Thanks.
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I activated my Xoom at the Verizon store on a month to month plan and it was $20/month/1GB and they did not charge me an activation fee.
I bought mine at costco.. the paperwork said 20 a month, activation fee with refund, unsubsidized.
I called VZW the next day and they had put me on a 2 yr contract that if I hadn't have called when I did would've been like 175 bucks ETF to get out of.
SO.. buyer beware, be sure to call vzw to ensure you are getting what you really wanted!
Be careful if your under contract my understanding was that if you suspend the data it also extends your contract until data is turned back on. This is why I just bit the bullet and bough the device. I know its not in everyones budget to do so, but it will save you money down the road.
zone23 said:
Be careful if your under contract my understanding was that if you suspend the data it also extends your contract until data is turned back on. This is why I just bit the bullet and bough the device. I know its not in everyones budget to do so, but it will save you money down the road.
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This is what makes me mad. Given the choices at the time, I got the device subsidized since I was going to have to get a data plan anyway (if I wanted data some months and didn't want to pay an activation fee). Now, two weeks after my purchase, they change the rules!
BTW - no activation fee on the ipad2. according to @Verizonwireless
http://twitter.com/#!/VerizonWireless
That's crap.
ok. i went to the store. the first three sales people had no idea what i was talking about. I finally spoke to my manager. They are running a promotion of no activation fee starting today for any tablet (obviously if you buy at full price). I still do not have clarity on whether there's an activation fee each and every time you turn on your device's mobile data. I have read that ipad2 will not have to pay (ie using mobile data whenever you want and pay only the mobile broadband plan) and Xoom will have to pay (ie pay activation fee each and every time you activate).
my takeaways:
1. VZW sales people either just plain dumb or not trained well
2. Apple is pushing VZW around and VZW is pushing Moto around
3. Flash or no flash, this is definitely going to lead to fewer Xoom sales
The ONLY reason holding me back to buy a XOOM today, it's Verizon NOT having a TRUE "Pay as you go" data plan, like the iPad with AT&T and now the iPad 2 with AT&T and Verizon. I think will buy an iPad 2 today.
I was planing to switch to Virgin mobile to get a Galaxy S2 on a $55/mo promo 10 plan , but when I heard of the frickin stupid $400 cancelation fee . A month later I notice that I was overpaying $7/mo for early evening(which was already in the package)for 10 months, this IOU would've been a perfect ticket for free cancelation . But the damn manager said that "this isn't a reason for sudden customer resignation". WHAT A PISS OFF
please don't recommend rogers anybody!!!!!!
Every carrier has a cancellation fee like that when you get a deeply discounted phone, you think they'll let you walk away with an expensive phone without a penalty fee?
You should've known you still had a contract. For example, when did you get a new phone? Got a promotion plan? These will renew your contract.
Why don't you just wait for the galaxy s2 lte version to come out on Rogers. There's a $55 promotion plan you can switch to on Rogers which should be comparable to the virgin mobile plan. You can still use that lte version on the regular 3g network.
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I wanted to switch to bell to get this phone. The plan was better and it was $20/month cheaper so I called rogers and I was told upfront there would be a $475 cancellation fee with rogers since I had 23 months left on the contract. I complained about poor reception and dead spots. They knocked it down to $300, so I said ok cancel me. He put me on hold and came back and said he waived the fee and it will be cancelled in 30 days.
Since I did that a friend of mine did the same thing and got it waived also.
It's worth a shot
what people dont get is that there is no better plans. everybody has the SAME PLAN !! this is how the market works, actually this is how every market works. and why do people complain about cancelation fee?? you dont like that fee? dont sign the contract ! you think they are just gonna give you a $500 dollars phone and charge you $100 dollars to cancel it? 80% of the people signing a contract without even asking how much is the cancelation fee, and everybody complains about it. thank god this country has high tax rate !!
I am not happy about my experience with Rogers. They could not fix my data access issue for 3 months! Kept charging me for the data plan and charged me a cancellation fee. I do not know if I would won a case in the court - I do not have time for that. There must be a simple legal process protecting consumers from that! I do not know if other companies are any better but I would also advice keep away from Rogers!
BTW, plans and service levels are different at the different companies.
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Every carrier has a cancellation fee like that when you get a deeply discounted phone, you think they'll let you walk away with an expensive phone without a penalty fee?
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There are limits to that, the law says it (in Quebec):
http://www.thewirereport.ca/reports..._be_passed_on_to_wireless_customers_cwta_says
The Droid Turbo is $599 without contact
But if I get a new contract at $199 plus $100 visa card when I turn in a working smartphone
$35 activation fee but I think Costco waives that fee
Termination fee $350
Net cost $99+$350+40(pro rated at 15 days)= $489
Net savings $110 as an alternative to keep my unlimited data.
Am i missing anything else?
Yeah when u do that I believe they send u a bill for the full price of the phone or they want it back and if not it gets a bad ESN, pretty sure.
I work for Verizon...they are currently waiving Activation/Upgrade fees for anyone getting a Droid Turbo
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igdawgi said:
The Droid Turbo is $599 without contact
But if I get a new contract at $199 plus $100 visa card when I turn in a working smartphone
$35 activation fee but I think Costco waives that fee
Termination fee $350
Net cost $99+$350+40(pro rated at 15 days)= $489
Net savings $110 as an alternative to keep my unlimited data.
Am i missing anything else?
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The problem I think you are overlooking is... If you do the early termination you just closed your unlimited data line.
2 year contract = tiered data plan
I'm pretty sure the OP is suggesting they open a new account, buy the phone on contract, and then cancel and pay the ETF. They would then put the phone on their previous (not closed) unlimited data account. My only reservation would be what someone else suggested; the possibility of the phone being flagged with a bad ESN.
d_freshmaker said:
I'm pretty sure the OP is suggesting they open a new account, buy the phone on contract, and then cancel and pay the ETF. They would then put the phone on their previous (not closed) unlimited data account. My only reservation would be what someone else suggested; the possibility of the phone being flagged with a bad ESN.
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Exactly what I'm trying to say. Thanks for clarifying this. But isn't the ETF of $350 makes that phone yours in theory?
igdawgi said:
The Droid Turbo is $599 without contact
But if I get a new contract at $199 plus $100 visa card when I turn in a working smartphone
$35 activation fee but I think Costco waives that fee
Termination fee $350
Net cost $99+$350+40(pro rated at 15 days)= $489
Net savings $110 as an alternative to keep my unlimited data.
Am i missing anything else?
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A few things..
You can't have more than one account at once. If you have a single line plan, you can't open another single line plan in your name.
You have to wait 15 days before you cancel. If you cancel in 14 days, you need to return the phone, so after 15 days be prepared to pay for a full month if they don't prorate.
Either way, it's a LOT of work to save a little money.
Yup I misunderstood, should have read it closer.
But yeah seems like a lot of work for minimal savings.
If you want to feel like your saving a few bucks. Just pay half the phone then bill the rest to your account.
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A few things..
You can't have more than one account at once. If you have a single line plan, you can't open another single line plan in your name.
You have to wait 15 days before you cancel. If you cancel in 14 days, you need to return the phone, so after 15 days be prepared to pay for a full month if they don't prorate.
Either way, it's a LOT of work to save a little money.
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True.. But it's the more the anger on Verizon treating their unlimited clients (long term) like this. So anyway to stick it to them is how I feel. I was planning to have my gf do two lines since I hold our current two lines. But in trying to figure out will this route work, or will they block the phone regardless of you pay for the ETF.
What phones are you going to trade in? You can't trade in a device that is currently active on someone else's (your) account so your current phones aren't an option.
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ESNs do not get flagged as bad when you cancel AND pay the ETF. The phone becomes yours.