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[Q] Help on which to get

I preordered a Samsung galaxy note 4 AT&T version allready but i can just change it need be, heres my problem, i want to be able to root and unlock the bootloader when i get my note 4 but i found out that att always has there bootloader locked, i found this out because i bought an s5 on att and couldnt unlock the bootloader so i was stuck with it until i got my htc one m8, but now im switching over to a galaxy note 4 and im on the att network, i would like to know which variant i should get so i can root, unlock the bootloader and have att 4G LTE or something just as fast like HSPA or something like that, i dont want to get stuck with out root or an unlocked bootloader or have terrible service. Please somebody help me out. Thanks, Joshua

Joshua.n said:
I preordered a Samsung galaxy note 4 AT&T version allready but i can just change it need be, heres my problem, i want to be able to root and unlock the bootloader when i get my note 4 but i found out that att always has there bootloader locked, i found this out because i bought an s5 on att and couldnt unlock the bootloader so i was stuck with it until i got my htc one m8, but now im switching over to a galaxy note 4 and im on the att network, i would like to know which variant i should get so i can root, unlock the bootloader and have att 4G LTE or something just as fast like HSPA or something like that, i dont want to get stuck with out root or an unlocked bootloader or have terrible service. Please somebody help me out. Thanks, Joshua
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Joshua,
Welcome to XDA. The T-Mobile USA version will support all of AT&T's frequencies, with full LTE support. Many people here opt to go for the T-Mobile version because they don't lock down the bootloader and usually within the first week it has root access. Be advised, getting the TMO version may not be super easy, as there have been different reports from members here. Some stores refuse to sell it to you outright without an account. Some stores you can walk right in, have no account, and buy it. Then there is the unlocking process. Not too hard to find a cheap site.
I have bought the TMO Note 3, and S5 outright for use on AT&T. When I had the TMO Note 3, I had nothing but reception issues with LTE, despite the phone having band 17 (AT&T) support. Whenever the phone was connected to LTE on AT&T, it sucked. The -dbm was always higher than an AT&T branded Android (yes I compared) and my then iPhone 5S. In places I had good LTE reception with my 5S, I was getting HSPA+ on my TMO Note 3. I returned it because I couldn't stand it.
The TMO S5 on AT&T was better, but still not excellent. I ended up returning the device because I hated it haha. But nonetheless, when you use a TMO device on AT&T you forfeit things like carrier aggregation (which AT&T is working on now) and visual voicemail. You also have to worry about who to contact if your device malfunctions. You'll have to jump through a lot of hoops because Samsung and T-Mobile will just keep pointing the finger at the other guy. Obviously if your an AT&T customer your no subscribing to T-Mobile's jump insurance program.
So yeah, I hope I gave you some help advice. Yeah I HATE supporting AT&T branded devices, but at the end of the day, I'd rather spend my time enjoying my device instead of finding ways to optimize the signal or trying to read up on flashing a new modem.

Just a quick question if I continue to get the note 4 AT&T variant will towel root work on it, I don't even care so much for the boot loader but there are simple things with root that I just love and can't be without like the SD fix, any idea?

Joshua.n said:
Just a quick question if I continue to get the note 4 AT&T variant will towel root work on it, I don't even care so much for the boot loader but there are simple things with root that I just love and can't be without like the SD fix, any idea?
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Now that the developer went to work for Google, Towel Root is dead.

JimSmith94 said:
Now that the developer went to work for Google, Towel Root is dead.
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So there wont be a root for att note 4? Unless someone else comes up with one?

Joshua.n said:
So there wont be a root for att note 4? Unless someone else comes up with one?
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Chainfire is hard at work rooting them as he gets the system dumps. So far, there is no root that doesn't trip Knox on any Samsung phone running 4.4.4 (or greater). From what I've read, Google hired the Towel Root developer to plug that security hole.

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Chainfire is hard at work rooting them as he gets the system dumps. So far, there is no root that doesn't trip Knox on any Samsung phone running 4.4.4 (or greater). From what I've read, Google hired the Towel Root developer to plug that security hole.
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Well I hope chainfire makes a breakthrough. Smart of Google but kind of a piss off

Joshua.n said:
Well I hope chainfire makes a breakthrough. Smart of Google but kind of a piss off
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Chainfire's root process has always tripped Knox.

JimSmith94 said:
Chainfire's root process has always tripped Knox.
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THIS...

Getting Lollipop on the Droid Turbo

Verizon has confirmed that they will eventually bring Android 5.0 Lollipop to the Droid Turbo. My question is this, as a Tmobile (Att, Cricket, whatever) user, will we also receive the update?
Does anyone else have any experience using Verizon phones on other networks, but stiill receiving the Software update when they become available for the phone? I'm not too concerned about not having root or an unlocked bootloader as long as Lollipop comes to the Droid Turbo with Motorola's light skinning, but If I won't be able to get that update when it becomes available since i'm on Tmobile, then i'll return this phone asap.

bboylito said:
Verizon has confirmed that they will eventually bring Android 5.0 Lollipop to the Droid Turbo. My question is this, as a Tmobile (Att, Cricket, whatever) user, will we also receive the update?
Does anyone else have any experience using Verizon phones on other networks, but stiill receiving the Software update when they become available for the phone? I'm not too concerned about not having root or an unlocked bootloader as long as Lollipop comes to the Droid Turbo with Motorola's light skinning, but If I won't be able to get that update when it becomes available since i'm on Tmobile, then i'll return this phone asap.
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Purely a guess, but the update is done over the internet. So if you have an active internet connection, the code will tell it to check Verizon's servers for the update. I don't know that it would actually download the file over the T-Mo network, but if you put it on WiFi, it would really be no different than using the device on Verizon and WiFi, right?
Sort of like updates for a device that isn't activated anymore. You can still download the OTA over WiFi even if the device has no SIM, etc.

fury683 said:
Sort of like updates for a device that isn't activated anymore. You can still download the OTA over WiFi even if the device has no SIM, etc.
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If it does happen to work like that, then you can just pop out the Sim and mash the Update button. I mean, you could probably leave the Sim in, but without one its effectively a "Verizon phone without a Sim installed".

You both make perfect sense. I just updated two HTC M7's over wifi with ATT's update. There was no sim and no issues. Thanks, I I'll keep my Turbo then. Love this beast.

bboylito said:
You both make perfect sense. I just updated two HTC M7's over wifi with ATT's update. There was no sim and no issues. Thanks, I I'll keep my Turbo then. Love this beast.
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Of course it might not work like that. But I would think you could somehow get the OTA zip and force it to update. I am not sure though.

So I'm not the only person using the Turbo on AT&T. I hope we get lollipop soon tho... But this phone is a beast holy crap. Only getting about a day out of it, but my screen is always on. Waiting for root and bootloader unlock tho.

As long as you can get the signed ota zip, which someone always posts, you can just flash it yourself

non AT&T users

i have galaxy s7 edge (AT&T ) but using it on another phone company . my DUMB question is Do i still able to get updates from AT&T ?!?

Not without an AT&T sim card in the phone unless the official firmware every gets released or leaked then you can flash via Odin. I just switched to cricket and have heard that some people have still gotten updates since it's on AT&T towers but some have said they still can't get them. I guess it's hit or miss if your using a 3rd party on At&t towers.

AndroiderM said:
Not without an AT&T sim card in the phone unless the official firmware every gets released or leaked then you can flash via Odin. I just switched to cricket and have heard that some people have still gotten updates since it's on AT&T towers but some have said they still can't get them. I guess it's hit or miss if your using a 3rd party on At&t towers.
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I would assume the same. If you're not using AT&T service they're not gonna push AT&T updates to the phone.

Switched to Tmobile with my AT&T S7 edge how will I receive updates?

How will i get software updates now that my unlocked AT&T S7 edge now that I'm on Tmobile with it?

I'm in the same situation.
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I just got rid of my AT&T edge and got a tmobile one, I wasnt about to go to best buy and get updates all the time like I was told by samsung

You need an AT&T sim it doesn't have to be activated. Im using mine on cricket and got my latest OTA by putting my deactivated AT&T sim and using my wifi to download. I did have to check twice and reboot once to trigger the update. If you change the time in settings up a day you don't have to wait 24hrs to recheck for update.

AndreaCristiano said:
How will i get software updates now that my unlocked AT&T S7 edge now that I'm on Tmobile with it?
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I have an unlocked AT&T S7 Edge and use it both on Rogers and AT&T, I simply change the SIM depending on where I am. The updates still come from AT&T regardless of where I check for them.

Sword Fish said:
I have an unlocked AT&T S7 Edge and use it both on Rogers and AT&T, I simply change the SIM depending on where I am. The updates still come from AT&T regardless of where I check for them.
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you have an unlocked phone, the updates come from samsung no matter what sim is in the phone.

Milimbar said:
you have an unlocked phone, the updates come from samsung no matter what sim is in the phone.
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No, I have an AT&T phone that I unlocked and my updates come from AT&T.

Sword Fish said:
No, I have an AT&T phone that I unlocked and my updates come from AT&T.
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Fair enough.
You still get your updates when you have the AT&T sim in the phone.
I do not have AT&T service at all and am totally unable to get any updates.

Milimbar said:
Fair enough.
You still get your updates when you have the AT&T sim in the phone.
I do not have AT&T service at all and am totally unable to get any updates.
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I am in Canada with my Rogers sim installed and received the latest update from AT&T on Friday last week. I have received multiple updates from AT&T when in Canada with my Rogers sim installed since getting this phone.

Sword Fish said:
I am in Canada with my Rogers sim installed and received the latest update from AT&T on Friday last week. I have received multiple updates from AT&T when in Canada with my Rogers sim installed since getting this phone.
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I have been unable to get even one update on 4 phones with a Cricket Wireless SIM in.
I dont understand it, AT&T Owns Cricket, you would think it should work without any issues.

I have a very interesting question regarding on using tee AT&T variant of this phone on the T-Mobile network. As you may have noticed, AT&T is finally offering Wi-Fi Calling on their network, and this phone is compatible. My question is:
Does the T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling work on the AT&T variant of this phone?
Does the AT&T Wi-Fi calling work on the T-Mobile variant of this phone?

If you flash the U firmware, you'll get wifi calling, VoLTE, and OTA updates. There is a thread in one of the other AT&T forums that has instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3411451
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You could also go another route and flash the t-mobile firmware on the at&t variant, it works quite well and is the equivalent of the U firmware with t-mobile account management, voice mail, and features.

I have s7edge at&t ..it don't have any volte option
I want to enable volte option. On my mobile
If i flash sm-935U on my at&t will it activate VOLTE OPTION

If you switched to TMobile just ODIN the Tmobile Firmware and you will get the updates OTA.

how do i flash the tmboile firmware to my at&t s7 edge.. i have a att s7 edge and want to flash tmobile firmware to it and use on tmobile with wifi calling and the works.....any links with instructions and firmware. thanks

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I have s7edge at&t ..it don't have any volte option
I want to enable volte option. On my mobile
If i flash sm-935U on my at&t will it activate VOLTE OPTION
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Yeah you do, its under Connections/Mobile Networks/Mobile Data its called Enhanced LTE services....I actually shut mine off and its saving quite a bit of battery it seems and I havent even noticed a difference in phone call quality, seems kind of useless

you need to get or buy a Gophone simcard or buy a gophone (comes with Gophone simcard), just activate the gophone simcard, you dont need to pay money on it. i never able to get att software update using Cricket simcard but when i put a activated gophone simcard (no need to pay money on it), it lets me update to the latest att firmware ! funny, how gophone and cricket are owned by parent company att but gophone lets me update and cricket can NOT.

help: odin from 930U back to stock 930V

I am on 930U and trying to use odin flash back to stock 930V. But I got a SW REV check fail. The phone is bricked now. It seems that my current version is higher so cannot use the low version firmware I have now. I am wondering if anyone has the latest 930V or 930U firmware or any solution? Thanks!

http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?q=Sm-g930v&exact=1
Download the most recent from here.

It worked, I have my phone back to stock now, thank you so much!

JediDru said:
http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?q=Sm-g930v&exact=1
Download the most recent from here.
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I realize this post is a number of years old, but is this site still a trusted site to pull down latest versions of stock images? I'm not seeing a whole lot of other advise as to where to get the most recent image for the s7.

Yes I would think that it still is. Just make sure you have all the pieces you need to fill into Odin. Also consider flashing your device to 930U firmware. It's the unbranded one that unlocks all bands for any US based carrier. I turned my 930V into a U at the time to use on an MVNO network that was provisioned for TMobile or att a d it worked perfectly.

JediDru said:
Yes I would think that it still is. Just make sure you have all the pieces you need to fill into Odin. Also consider flashing your device to 930U firmware. It's the unbranded one that unlocks all bands for any US based carrier. I turned my 930V into a U at the time to use on an MVNO network that was provisioned for TMobile or att a d it worked perfectly.
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Thank you so much for your response! Here's my dilemma. When I bought the phone as a referb, it came with 930U. The only thing I really missed at the time was the visual voicemail app, but I found that samsung had a similar in their app store, so no big deal. However, now I'm getting emails from Verizon about them turning off the 3g band at the end of the year. The phones that would be affected are 3g obviously, but also the 4g phones without HD voice capability; the more I dug into it, I found that the 2 things you don't get with U are the vm app and verizon hd calling. I know that the phone is capable of it, as my wife has the same exact model, but with the 930V and the settings are right there.. So I guess this leads me to two more questions:
If I leave it as is, will is still work after they shut down the 3g towers?
The 930V receives OTA updates occasionally. If I keep it at 930U, how do I get the latest security updates?

sullyb007 said:
Thank you so much for your response! Here's my dilemma. When I bought the phone as a referb, it came with 930U. The only thing I really missed at the time was the visual voicemail app, but I found that samsung had a similar in their app store, so no big deal. However, now I'm getting emails from Verizon about them turning off the 3g band at the end of the year. The phones that would be affected are 3g obviously, but also the 4g phones without HD voice capability; the more I dug into it, I found that the 2 things you don't get with U are the vm app and verizon hd calling. I know that the phone is capable of it, as my wife has the same exact model, but with the 930V and the settings are right there.. So I guess this leads me to two more questions:
If I leave it as is, will is still work after they shut down the 3g towers?
The 930V receives OTA updates occasionally. If I keep it at 930U, how do I get the latest security updates?
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Sadly you won't
Once you flash the latest firmware
You won't get occasional updates
Samsung has cut support for security updates since 2020
EDIT:at neither of'em

sullyb007 said:
Thank you so much for your response! Here's my dilemma. When I bought the phone as a referb, it came with 930U. The only thing I really missed at the time was the visual voicemail app, but I found that samsung had a similar in their app store, so no big deal. However, now I'm getting emails from Verizon about them turning off the 3g band at the end of the year. The phones that would be affected are 3g obviously, but also the 4g phones without HD voice capability; the more I dug into it, I found that the 2 things you don't get with U are the vm app and verizon hd calling. I know that the phone is capable of it, as my wife has the same exact model, but with the 930V and the settings are right there.. So I guess this leads me to two more questions:
If I leave it as is, will is still work after they shut down the 3g towers?
The 930V receives OTA updates occasionally. If I keep it at 930U, how do I get the latest security updates?
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Gotta flash the Verizon firmware