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Using Apps2SD>How Do You Know When Updates Come Out For Apps?

I just wiped my phone and see all of my apps there because I installed them before to my sdcard.
But when I go to the Market, they are no longer in "my downloads." So... how do I know if an update comes out for them?
Thanks.

Do you use aTrackDog?

No. I don't know what That is...

I reccomed reinstalling all your apps as you may have an issue with running them properly. If you paid for an app you can download it again and they will show up in your "my downloads" atrackdog is a 3rd party program that will check for up dated versions of your apps by using a p2p like protocal. It works for apps that you have that are not on the market like wireless tether and g-arcade.
But really reinstall all your apps. Use atrackdog. You can manage them from there.

Just wondering... Won't this happen every time I wipe then? The apps still show up in the "drawer" where all the apps usually are, just not in the marketplace. So... if this does happen everytime you wipe (the phone, ), then what's the whole point of apps2sd? Please clarify. Thank you.

The point is to free up the phones internal memory and keep it from lagging when the free memory gets below 20mb. Also a sdcard class 6 is slightly faster than the internal memory. Besides would you rather have 80 megs total to download programs or 500 megs?I wouldn't want to have to uninstall last.tm to play a game

I get that... but... if I wipe the phone, the apps will show up again once I put the new rom on it. However, there's no way to check if the apps have been updated by the developer since your downloads no longer show up in the market's "my downloads." So... Is there a way to fix that or a way around that..?

Currently there is no known workaround
Use atrackdog. Its available in the market. It won't auto notify you. Personally I run it every few days and it works great. If an update is available you can go directly to the programs market page and install the update.
Edit: you can always reinstall them

start all over i guess.. i do this all the time just to try a rom
format Fat32/Ext2 both it will format installed apps.. ur paid apps will be there regardless
wipe
flash the build
set-up app2sd before installing ur apps
then start serching all the apps u had
yea its alot of work but atleast i see my apps updates

I did this (but didn't start downloading apps yet) and for internal storage in settings>sdcard/storage, it shows internal storage free space is 840mb. Is that normal? Its just reading my ext3 partition as the internal storage,right? I did NOT set up apps2sd files or anything yet, but when I installed one app I looked at the free space again and it went down under "internal storage" instead of sd card. That would be normal EXCEPT for the fact that the internal storage free space is showing 800 something megabytes...
PLEASE HELP- Thanks!

legaleye2005 said:
I did this (but didn't start downloading apps yet) and for internal storage in settings>sdcard/storage, it shows internal storage free space is 840mb. Is that normal? Its just reading my ext3 partition as the internal storage,right? I did NOT set up apps2sd files or anything yet, but when I installed one app I looked at the free space again and it went down under "internal storage" instead of sd card. That would be normal EXCEPT for the fact that the internal storage free space is showing 800 something megabytes...
PLEASE HELP- Thanks!
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Its a bug in the build. As long as you have a ext2-3 partition. Any Rom that is a2sd enabled should see it automagically.
You did nothing wrong. Install any app and look in your system/sd/app folder and see if it is there. If its a paid app? Check system/sd/app-private

Thanks man- I really appreciate it. So far out of a many responses over many threads, you're the only one to give a response.

legaleye2005 said:
I did this (but didn't start downloading apps yet) and for internal storage in settings>sdcard/storage, it shows internal storage free space is 840mb. Is that normal? Its just reading my ext3 partition as the internal storage,right? I did NOT set up apps2sd files or anything yet, but when I installed one app I looked at the free space again and it went down under "internal storage" instead of sd card. That would be normal EXCEPT for the fact that the internal storage free space is showing 800 something megabytes...
PLEASE HELP- Thanks!
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I do what I can. I'm glad I could help. Feel free to pm if you have any other issues

legaleye2005 said:
I just wiped my phone and see all of my apps there because I installed them before to my sdcard.
But when I go to the Market, they are no longer in "my downloads." So... how do I know if an update comes out for them?
Thanks.
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I recommend using the app -BackUp For Root Users- before wiping and flashing a new rom. On the second page is an option to backup and restore your Market Database file. I assume you can probably back up the same file using Terminal but I'm no expert on it, nor do I know the location of the Android Manifest file. If you save this file and restore it after a fresh install it will restore your My Downloads section in the Market and thus show you when updates are available.
As for currently, you'll have to reinstall your apps from the market first.

[Q] app to SD pro?

how to bypass application move protection?
i install tap tap 4 revenge it's about 4mb and i checked on app to sd pro whether i can move it to sd card and it says only on phone storage? how do i move to sd card and bypass the move to sd protection set on the application by the author???

AFAIK it has been configured in the APK somehow.. I bet there's a line like "CanBeMovedToExternalStorage=0". And if It's at 0 your android reads it as not movable to sdcard. So what you would have to do is unpack the apk and edit the config of it.
For 'forcing' it to install on your sdcard you need to open adb and type adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
0 = let the phone decide (this is default)
1 = Internal storage (This will cause apps to install on your internal storage only)
2 = External storage (This will cause apps to install your SDCard only)
AFAIK android will automatically install an app on sdcard if that app supports it and you're running low on internal space.
Notice: Never install widgets and system apps on sdcard. It can\will cause problems. What I suggest is change that install location each time you install a game that cannot be moved to sdcard manually

Thom47 said:
AFAIK it has been configured in the APK somehow.. I bet there's a line like "CanBeMovedToExternalStorage=0". And if It's at 0 your android reads it as not movable to sdcard. So what you would have to do is unpack the apk and edit the config of it.
For 'forcing' it to install on your sdcard you need to open adb and type adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
0 = let the phone decide (this is default)
1 = Internal storage (This will cause apps to install on your internal storage only)
2 = External storage (This will cause apps to install your SDCard only)
AFAIK android will automatically install an app on sdcard if that app supports it and you're running low on internal space.
Notice: Never install widgets and system apps on sdcard. It can\will cause problems. What I suggest is change that install location each time you install a game that cannot be moved to sdcard manually
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thank you.
ahm.. does this application call "move to sd enabler" work?? because i keep installing apps then moving them to sd card and my internal memory keeps on decreasing?? i also wipe out cache files

I think it stores some data, which takes some memory.
As for that app.. it probably does the same as that ADB command, so yeah, it should work.

scapula101 said:
thank you.
ahm.. does this application call "move to sd enabler" work?? because i keep installing apps then moving them to sd card and my internal memory keeps on decreasing?? i also wipe out cache files
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Move to sd enabler works flawlessly.. Open the app and select "external"..every app you install will go to the sd card by default..make sure you move widgets to phone memory else they won't work..

Rapier07 said:
Move to sd enabler works flawlessly.. Open the app and select "external"..every app you install will go to the sd card by default..make sure you move widgets to phone memory else they won't work..
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it work but it also decrease the internal memory too
so what is solution ...

Clarify - A2SD+

Hi all,
I'm using HyperDroid GBX-12 on HD2, and it comes with A2SD+.
I use ClockworkMod to create a 1G ext2 partition, and believe that applications I install will be in the ext2 partition instead of my phone's internal memory.
Under Android 'Manage Applications', there is a tab called 'On SD card', I can see some apps are checked. I believe that the application developer designed it to be in SD card during installation, am I right?
Now, I use root explorer to check my sd-ext, and I can see a 'app' folder contain a lot of *.apk files which prove that A2SD+ is working fine.
For either app said Angry Bird Rio, I see the apk file there. Now I go to Manage application, and move Rio to SD card, I can actually see the apk file disappear. However, I can't find it out from my SD card? Also, there are 2 more MB free from my phone storage.
When I move Rio back to phone, the apk re-appear in sd-ext, and my phone memory got 2MB drops.
If A2SD+ is working, why it will still affect my phone's memory?
Is the 'Move to SD' function in Manage Application provided by Android OS?
If A2SD+ is already working, should I still manually move applications to SD?
Sorry that I get a little bit confused about these.
Thanks!

If A2SD+ is working, why it will still affect my phone's memory?
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it isn't really,restart the phone and the used memory re appears.
Is the 'Move to SD' function in Manage Application provided by Android OS?
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I think so,yes,it certainly isn't part of a2sd+
If A2SD+ is already working, should I still manually move applications to SD?
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No,doing that will move the app from ext to the fat partition and some apps (angry birds for instance) won't work from fat partition.

9505 Internal SD Full?

Hey guys,
How can I re-size the internal SD - as i'm constantly told I can't install Apps due to "no available space" yet it shows like 4gb of free space?
Haven't had any issues with my MicroSD
Reports the same dumb issue on TW and AOSP/AOKP/CM roms...

Im 90% sure re-sizing is not possible but backup everything in your internal storage then go to your recovery and format /sdcard
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m2geek said:
Hey guys,
How can I re-size the internal SD - as i'm constantly told I can't install Apps due to "no available space" yet it shows like 4gb of free space?
Haven't had any issues with my MicroSD
Reports the same dumb issue on TW and AOSP/AOKP/CM roms...
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Try Storage Analyzer from market. Activate root in options, then go to your system partition (symbol in the lower left corner). There you can see what takes all the space. For me it was the "lost+found" folder.

E_Cartman said:
Try Storage Analyzer from market. Activate root in options, then go to your system partition (symbol in the lower left corner). There you can see what takes all the space. For me it was the "lost+found" folder.
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Thanks dude, will give it a go.

Link2SD or similar working on a Galaxy On5?

I've tried many combinations of partition types and numbers and cannot get Link2SD to accept my second partition. I had similarly bad luck with App2SD. Is there a known good combination of app, card, partition type, size, and number that lets me offload my apps onto the external SD card? I'm using a rooted but otherwise stock GT550T rom for T-Mobile. I have a 200GB Sandisk microSD card. 8GB phone with 4GB taken by default and I couldn't find much to remove. Any other good ideas as to how I can get my apps installed. Even with 0 games I cannot install my usual suite.

i have been experiencing the exact same problem, tried both apps2sd and link2sd, still no luck.. i actually managed to corrupt a brand new card, had to go exchange it. no luck with ext4 or any others... i hope we get some assistance

Yep. What they said.
Same issue. Any fix yet?

I would also like to know a way to get Apps2SD or Link2SD working.

Hey! Androeds 4.1up the link2sd does not work anymore if all of you, does not creates universal odexes for each app in sdext2. The zygote of libs in androed 4.4+ does not permits dalvik cache outside datadir.
The solution is odex all apps one by one, because gogle system apps never recognized and will never recognize odexed apps as third apps.
Is a long war against themselves new dumb zygote for deny odexes in sdext2 :
You need only copy the created odexes inside sdext2 togheter with apk's dir and link mannually, and finnally, delete the relative dex.
The rest is normally linked by link2sd

Apps2sd works for me. I am not rooted though. Let's try to troubleshoot. Go into settings/storage and make sure the sdcard is mounted and formatted. See if your screens match mine.

Apps 2sd is a lie!
Only a Half part of app comes to a dumb system in /mnt/secure and /mnt/asec.
Is a lie!
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If you root your device, install link2sd (the real sdext linker) your apps will go to sdcard.
On androeds 4.1+ the .dex files need to be PURGED AND PUNCHED OUT DUE TO GOGLE'S SICKNESS NEW DUMB ZYGOTE, and converted to .odex.

I really like the phone itself, i honestly hope someone is able to make a rom for it. Cause out of the box i have basically no storage for apps and the apps 2 sd function in the rom only lets you move a handful of apps.

LINK2SD works on the Samsung Galaxy On5. I moved many apps and have tons of space now.

I don't know how typical my situation is, but I am having the same issue and thought i would attempt to provide a bit more in the way of detail.
My On5 is rooted with TWRP installed and functioning apparently normally. I can run apps that require root without issue, Titanium Backup for example. I have installed SuperSU and BusyBox which seem to behave normally, but Root Checker recognizes root and BusyBox but not SU Access.
When I try to use Link2SD, it doesn't recognize my second partition, and won't create a mount script. I can enter SU through terminal mode, and created /etc/fstab with mounting details for the second partition, but Link2SD still doesn't see it. Consequently, I can use the Move to SD function with some apps, but Link to SD is not functional.

I would contact LINK2SD support and ask them if the app is even capable of handling multiple partitions. My guess is no.

Link2SD not only is capable of handling second partitions, it requires them for the Link to SD function. I followed their instructions carefully for creating an appropriately formatted second partition. The issue seems to be that the phone won't allow it to mount. That is why I posted here.

n5dkj said:
Link2SD not only is capable of handling second partitions, it requires them for the Link to SD function. I followed their instructions carefully for creating an appropriately formatted second partition. The issue seems to be that the phone won't allow it to mount. That is why I posted here.
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Yes I am sorry, that is why I should post before I have coffee. I see you need an ext4 and a fat formatted... I got it to work. Here are my exact steps..
1. Down root essentials, LINK2SD from app store. Also must be rooted and have TWRP installed. I also suggest a full backup.. Then move the backup to your computer, free space on the phone... Don't leave the backup on the sdcard as it about to be partioned and formatted!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. If you already did this and tried adoptable let storage then use the 'revert changes' and reboot
3. Go into settings a d format sdcard as standard Portable Storage. Click cancel or no if it wants to move anything over.
4. Go into root essentials, storage tab and click adoptable storage
5. Follow procedures to download apk needed (the app will automatically load the web page).. Edit.. When used how much percent of the sdcard to use It's elected 50%.. I am using a 16gb card.. So I split it down the middle.
6. Power down phone
7. Hold down volume up+home+power until logo appears... Essentially go into twrp
8. Do a kernel (system) backup if you haven't yet recently.
9. Flash Apk which will automatically reboot phone
10. Not sure this is important but I waited for my phone to full boot... Paying particular attention to the Toast saying that room essentials has been granted full permissions....
10b... Do not go into storage settings and try to format the second part of the partition... It's already been formatted..
11. Went into LINK2SD, Settings... And pressed 'app location' got a weird warning about hierarchical something or whatnot.. Pressed it a few times and finally got the right screen. SELECTED EXTERNAL.
That was it... Now when I move apps with LINK2SD it seems like a ton of more free space is clearing on the internal... Before when I moved apps I think it was just moving the data..

I got it working temporarily but somehow it started making apps unusable and un-re-installable again. I'll do a factory reset and reroot (I think I just have to sideload SU) and try your step by step this weekend.
The other possibility is the apps that come with the phone are so big they don't fit in the 8gb that comes with it. Every time a Google app gets an update I lose more space and I cannot move those apps to my knowledge. Its getting harder and harder. With this method do I get true adoptable storage? As in all apps and data share the space?

cracker_jax said:
I got it working temporarily but somehow it started making apps unusable and un-re-installable again. I'll do a factory reset and reroot (I think I just have to sideload SU) and try your step by step this weekend.
The other possibility is the apps that come with the phone are so big they don't fit in the 8gb that comes with it. Every time a Google app gets an update I lose more space and I cannot move those apps to my knowledge. Its getting harder and harder. With this method do I get true adoptable storage? As in all apps and data share the space?
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Most apps are under 100MB.. Even if they download extra data there is no way any one particular app is over 8GB...
Try this...
Sort the LINK2SD app list by 'size internal'
Uninstall the top 3-4 apps that take the most space
Move any system apps you moved to the sdcard back to internal
Clear the app cache and dalvik caches
Reboot
Reformat sdcard
Reboot
Then try my steps to get adoptable storage...
Report back if you can
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cracker_jax said:
I got it working temporarily but somehow it started making apps unusable and un-re-installable again. I'll do a factory reset and reroot (I think I just have to sideload SU) and try your step by step this weekend.
The other possibility is the apps that come with the phone are so big they don't fit in the 8gb that comes with it. Every time a Google app gets an update I lose more space and I cannot move those apps to my knowledge. Its getting harder and harder. With this method do I get true adoptable storage? As in all apps and data share the space?
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PS I heard rebooting after you move the apps to SD seems to also fix the problem.

djmcho said:
Most apps are under 100MB.. Even if they download extra data there is no way any one particular app is over 8GB...
Try this...
Sort the LINK2SD app list by 'size internal'
Uninstall the top 3-4 apps that take the most space
Move any system apps you moved to the sdcard back to internal
Clear the app cache and dalvik caches
Reboot
Reformat sdcard
Reboot
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I did the instructions to get adoptable storage and it appeared to work (adoptable worked anyway) but Link2SD has no functionality with moving anything anywhere. The card is not formatted correctly for Link2SD. The main (SD) partition is receiving apps (migrate to SD built into Android) but very few and the internal storage fills up quickly. Basically the apps that work via App2SD were able to be migrated with the migrate button in Settings > Storage. I'd consider formatting the SD card's second partition so Link2SD could work on it again but I know already that it won't work with the "data" of the apps, even with Link2SD plus. I had limited success with FolderMount but that is a pain and I'm not sure it worked at all. Having data exist in two places seems to confuse my phone. Adoptable storage seems to be dead with most apps refusing to use it and Link2SD seems to be dead as it won't move most of my data without breaking the app.

cracker_jax said:
I did the instructions to get adoptable storage and it appeared to work (adoptable worked anyway) but Link2SD has no functionality with moving anything anywhere. The card is not formatted correctly for Link2SD. The main (SD) partition is receiving apps (migrate to SD built into Android) but very few and the internal storage fills up quickly. Basically the apps that work via App2SD were able to be migrated with the migrate button in Settings > Storage. I'd consider formatting the SD card's second partition so Link2SD could work on it again but I know already that it won't work with the "data" of the apps, even with Link2SD plus. I had limited success with FolderMount but that is a pain and I'm not sure it worked at all. Having data exist in two places seems to confuse my phone. Adoptable storage seems to be dead with most apps refusing to use it and Link2SD seems to be dead as it won't move most of my data without breaking the app.
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App have to be enabled by the developer to move the data with the app, Dex etc.. For example Waze is... Here is my files list view from links2sd about Waze... As you can see everything Def moved over to the adoptable storage.

cracker_jax said:
I did the instructions to get adoptable storage and it appeared to work (adoptable worked anyway) but Link2SD has no functionality with moving anything anywhere. The card is not formatted correctly for Link2SD. The main (SD) partition is receiving apps (migrate to SD built into Android) but very few and the internal storage fills up quickly. Basically the apps that work via App2SD were able to be migrated with the migrate button in Settings > Storage. I'd consider formatting the SD card's second partition so Link2SD could work on it again but I know already that it won't work with the "data" of the apps, even with Link2SD plus. I had limited success with FolderMount but that is a pain and I'm not sure it worked at all. Having data exist in two places seems to confuse my phone. Adoptable storage seems to be dead with most apps refusing to use it and Link2SD seems to be dead as it won't move most of my data without breaking the app.
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Where as chrome is not set by the developer to allow moving stuff like data over to SDcard. See attached... You will see some is on the phone and some is onbthe sdcard. If you want to move data over to the sdcard for apps that are not designed to do so you could purchase the pro version of Link2SD that allows for the forcing of data by creating linking. You might be able to do it for free using terminal emulator and the Linux linking command, which escapes me right now..

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Where as chrome is not set by the developer to allow moving stuff like data over to SDcard. See attached... You will see some is on the phone and some is onbthe sdcard. If you want to move data over to the sdcard for apps that are not designed to do so you could purchase the pro version of Link2SD that allows for the forcing of data by creating linking. You might be able to do it for free using terminal emulator and the Linux linking command, which escapes me right now..
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My problem with the Plus version of Link2SD, which I purchased, is that whenever I liked the data portion (IIRC) the newly moved app would immediately force-quit when opening after that. So I would move the data back. It would still force-quit. So I would uninstall and reinstall. It would still force-quit. Sooooo if and when I used that function it completely broke the app until I did a factory reset.
Now, Link2SD plus has nothing to do with adoptable storage as I was able to move apk and data over simply by getting the correct formatting on my SD card, though I don't remember the correct combination of ext2,3,4 partitions that made it work. What I do remember is after that I would only ruin apps by moving the data. Now, with adoptable storage, Link2SD cannot use the card at all though I haven't tried reformatting the second partition as an ext2,3,4,whatever.
Maybe go back to trying to get support from Link2SD developer?

djmcho said:
That was it... Now when I move apps with LINK2SD it seems like a ton of more free space is clearing on the internal... Before when I moved apps I think it was just moving the data..
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Excellent!! I just got time to try it, and I now have much more available space. Thanks for your help!