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I know it isn't compatible with my Note 3 due to size constraints, but I ordered one anyway - I think I have an S4 laying around somewhere. I'm wondering who has used it with their Note 3 and what their experience was.
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I know it isn't compatible with my Note 3 due to size constraints, but I ordered one anyway - I think I have an S4 laying around somewhere. I'm wondering who has used it with their Note 3 and what their experience was.
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So what was your experience with this?
I'm wondering should i just buy one for my note 3 or make a bigger one,
The problem with bigger one is i don't know if the lens position and/or focal length need to be changed.
ankur88 said:
So what was your experience with this?
I'm wondering should i just buy one for my note 3 or make a bigger one,
The problem with bigger one is i don't know if the lens position and/or focal length need to be changed.
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I'm kind of interested in this for my Note 3 too. Here's one for $8.99 if you want to try it: http://www.focalprice.com/MX0124X/G...ium=EM&utm_campaign=DM_1432ZT_3Dglass_MX0124X
My "unofficial" cardboard unit arrived today. I had to modify the front to accommodate the Note 3's extra width. It works ok, but the volume controls are constantly getting (accidentally) pushed when you hold your thumbs anywhere near where the phone is. Same can be said about the power button on the top.
The camera is completely covered by the cardboard itself, because the oval-shaped hole assumes a shorter phone.
I'm running Alliance Rom and the PhotoSphere app doesn't work (it FC's). Other than that, the only other comment I can make is that the phone gets pretty warm while it's running the VR stuff. Takes quite a bit of power, because the battery drops quickly too.
All in all, it is a fun little toy. I look forward to other applications being created. OBTW, a lot of the compatible apps from the play store, require a Bluetooth controller. to function. Lucily I have a Bluetooth mini keyboard that has a d-pad style controller. This combination works ok.
I think I will wait to try VR when I can Full Dive... the current versions just make me motion sick.
Posted here because I am interested in how it turns out for you guys.
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I know it isn't compatible with my Note 3 due to size constraints, but I ordered one anyway - I think I have an S4 laying around somewhere. I'm wondering who has used it with their Note 3 and what their experience was.
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Its weird that it doesn't fit.
Cause currently there's that (worst to best) that Android VR Headset dubbed "Gameface", followed by Samsung's attempts with Gear VR, then there's SONY's Project Morpheus and finally the "king" Oculus Rift.
Its weird because out of all those millions (billions?) of dollars spent in development, the Oculus Rift comes out on top... and that VR uses the NOTE 3's display.
Literally. They've cut out the N3's screen, and slapped it on goggles with a pair of lens.
I want to try out Cardboard but I'm worried the initial bad experience might deter me from VR experience for good (remember VirtualBoy?). I might hold out for O/R's consumer product.
We'll see in the future when it gets mainstream; I'd expect it to ship for ~$399 and use a SAMOLED+ screen of roughly 6inch size and 4K resolution.
(Following the OR development, they're converging towards the 6in size and want to get as high resolution as possible. 4K is possible, and will be cheap in the near future. 4K allows easier development for applications too. OLED is best, but too costly at the moment. SAMOLED+ panels seems to be the better in terms of refresh rates and battery life than IPS, despite costing a little more than IPS. IPS has better brightness too, but that's moot. Oculus Rift has always aimed at quality and affordability so I couldn't expect it cheaper than $249 and wouldn't expect it higher than $500. So $399 seems like a "sweet spot" for mass manufacturing. Unless Facebook ruins it).
nukeboyt said:
My "unofficial" cardboard unit arrived today. I had to modify the front to accommodate the Note 3's extra width. It works ok, but the volume controls are constantly getting (accidentally) pushed when you hold your thumbs anywhere near where the phone is. Same can be said about the power button on the top.
The camera is completely covered by the cardboard itself, because the oval-shaped hole assumes a shorter phone.
I'm running Alliance Rom and the PhotoSphere app doesn't work (it FC's). Other than that, the only other comment I can make is that the phone gets pretty warm while it's running the VR stuff. Takes quite a bit of power, because the battery drops quickly too.
All in all, it is a fun little toy. I look forward to other applications being created. OBTW, a lot of the compatible apps from the play store, require a Bluetooth controller. to function. Lucily I have a Bluetooth mini keyboard that has a d-pad style controller. This combination works ok.
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So from what I understand, you can make it all work with relative ease. I may order this. I use an otterbox case, which adds to the bulk. Hopefully I don't have to buy a smaller phone just to enjoy VR.
Unofficial Cardboard large
Ok, just noticed this on the UnofficialCardboard website
https://www.unofficialcardboard.com/product/large-unassembled-diy-die-cut-kit-w-nfc/
Its seems they finally made one for larger phones. Not all the details are on the site yet(like what phones are compatible) but am very tempted to order one right away
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Ok, just noticed this on the UnofficialCardboard website
https://www.unofficialcardboard.com/product/large-unassembled-diy-die-cut-kit-w-nfc/
Its seems they finally made one for larger phones. Not all the details are on the site yet(like what phones are compatible) but am very tempted to order one right away
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i ordered one of the large ones from unofficialcardboard. com yesterday. ill update once i receive it.
i purchased one of the VR kits from dodocase.com and i did fit my Note 3 in it but it produces blury, out of focus and ghosting images. i modded my case so that my power and volume buttons wouldn't be pressed during use by cutting slots on the flap for them. once i tried the VR headset with my brother's S5 i saw the difference... and it was a big difference! everything was perfectly focused and im hoping this bigger VR headset will provide the same with the Note 3
ordered one
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Ok, just noticed this on the UnofficialCardboard website
https://www.unofficialcardboard.com/product/large-unassembled-diy-die-cut-kit-w-nfc/
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Its seems they finally made one for larger phones. Not all the details are on the site yet(like what phones are compatible) but am very tempted to order one right away
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So
I ordered the larger one for my note 3 which I keep in an otterbox I'll update with initial impressions
I ordered a DodoCase version and it arrived today. I wasn't sure how it would work with my Note 3, but it works pretty well. The screen is almost exactly the size of the opening and so gives more viewing screen than smaller phones would.
I made three minor modifications to it. One was a cutout on the top to allow me to access the power button. Another, similar cutout (this time I only cut three sides and secured it loosely with tape) to relieve the pressure on the volume button and allow me to change the volume. The third was a minor enlargement of the camera hole to allow the camera lens full access. All three cuts are about 1/4 inch deep and the width of the needed buttons/camera, very minor, and very effective.
I haven't had a LOT of time to play with it yet, but it works very well. I look forward to comparing it to my wife's S5 when she gets home.
Oh, I had some double sided velcro around and found that strip of that will hold it to my head quite well too. So far I haven't decided how to attach the velcro, but it works just wrapped around the cardboard and my head.
All things considered, I am very pleased with the way it works with my Note 3!
I decided I didn't want to use my Note 3 for this as it wasn't on the 'official' supported list. I picked up a Moto X used in nice shape and a very good price just to try this out. Got the cardboard kit today and tried it out. Very impressive but the phone does get quite warm in just a few minutes. Androsens was saying it was at 101 degrees F and battery was at 104 degrees F which is higher by far than it normally gets. The warmth was quite noticeable when I pulled the phone back out of the VR kit. I think battery use runs fairly high with this too. Overall I don't think I'd want to run it for long periods and definitely not with my Note 3 (although it might have enough more horsepower that it wouldn't warm up ? )
I saw one of the choices in the cardboard app is Youtube. Does anyone know if the youtubes showing in that are done special for the 3D or are they just normal Youtubes? I saw one that had been on CNN news this morning of a turtle chasing an RC car. It had some dimension to it but you couldn't pan around in that like you can with the other built in apps so I tend to think it's just a normal Youtube.
I just tried the carboard VR kit now with the Samsung Galaxy S3 and it sort of works except the magnet doesn't work to select items so you have to open the box and tap them to select. This phone also got very warm with just a few minutes use. My phones normally run in the low 80's F but running this they are hitting 99-104 degrees F. Be careful not to fry your phones ! It must max out the CPU speed and voltage to run the 3D stuff. Impressive to get a taste of VR but I'm not sure a most phones could take the heat for running long term. Also the Galaxy S3 doesn't play the Windy Day as this is specific for Motorola and the Moto X.
Can't we just somehow disable all hardware buttons on the Note 3? Disable volume keys, disable power button?
I bought a DodoCase, the phone fits JUST JUST right, but of course all the buttons are pressed, lol. I have a rooted phone running custom roms along with xposed... I'm sure there is a setting somewhere to disable them?
hello,
Someone could he give me a map unofficial model (largest to Note 3) Please?
I bought the normal model but it's too galley (I recovered the lenses above)
Unofficial Cardboard large *update*
So I got the Unofficial cardboard large for my Note 3.
The phone fits perfectly into the unit.
As someone mentioned before, the HW buttons do get pressed sometimes but its possible to make cutouts to prevent this/get access to the buttons.
Don't know if its due to the lack of lens adjustment in the cardboard design, but individual pixels are a lot more visible then I have expected, given the 1080p Note 3 display.
All in all I think it was money well spent. Got a nice preview of what this VR hype is all about
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So I got the Unofficial cardboard large for my Note 3.
The phone fits perfectly into the unit.
As someone mentioned before, the HW buttons do get pressed sometimes but its possible to make cutouts to prevent this/get access to the buttons.
Don't know if its due to the lack of lens adjustment in the cardboard design, but individual pixels are a lot more visible then I have expected, given the 1080p Note 3 display.
All in all I think it was money well spent. Got a nice preview of what this VR hype is all about
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Where did you get yours from?
How much did it set you back?
International postage?
....I'm also wanting to get this just to try it, see what VR is like.
Kangal said:
Where did you get yours from?
How much did it set you back?
International postage?
....I'm also wanting to get this just to try it, see what VR is like.
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https://www.unofficialcardboard.com/products/unassembled-kits/unassembled-uc-large-w-nfc/
$20 + $10(flat international rate for the unassembled version)
I bought the large Google cardboard from eBay for $16.99 with the nfc tag (I would get the one without the tag though). My 7 year old son loves it. I think it's pretty cool as well but most of the apps have drift issue (or its the phone). I also use a PS3 controller and it seems that the controller isn't set up for most of the apps... The joystick works but the buttons don't.
I have only had it for 4 days and I will continue playing with it. I can keep posting with my experiences and app opinions if you want. Ank any questions about it and I will answer them to the best of my knowledge.
Obviously for cardboard I can't expect some amazing VR but, most of the youtube videos show users pretty immersed in it. How is the immersion? ie: roller coaster effect?
Check this out... Really makes me want to consider the regular S6.
1. I NEVER lay my phone face down.
2. I don't care about the ability to pull my fav contacts in from the side to call or message.
http://www.wired.com/2015/03/galaxy-s6-edge-pointless/
EVOme said:
Check this out... Really makes me want to consider the regular S6.
1. I NEVER lay my phone face down.
2. I don't care about the ability to pull my fav contacts in from the side to call or message.
http://www.wired.com/2015/03/galaxy-s6-edge-pointless/
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I really don't think anyone considering the edge is considering it for those reasons. It's mainly aesthetic.
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I really don't think anyone considering the edge is considering it for those reasons. It's mainly aesthetic.
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You could very well be right.
The writer seems happy that Samsung is willing to create something just for aesthetics but at the same time disappointed that it has no real functionality.
Hanson68 said:
The writer seems happy that Samsung is willing to create something just for aesthetics but at the same time disappointed that it has no real functionality.
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It's the same way I feel about it.
" a notification light for when the phone is face down, but since people only put their phones face down to not be distracted by them, that light is unhelpful and thus doesn’t count."
That statement is bang on. Why would I put my phone face down at all, if I still want to see the notification light? If I wanted to know what's going on with my phone, I'd leave it face up on the table.
The night clock... personally, I rather have a normal sized desk alarm clock on my nightstand. If I'm checking the time in middle of the night, I really don't want to have to squint through the grogginess.
The contacts swipe, while interesting, could be applied to any phone, and it kind of already has with Pie controls.
The aesthetics, man, the Edge looks beautiful to me. However, I'm usually a case (or at least a bumper) user, so I'm sure the extra $100 could be spent better for myself for other things.
I'll have to stick with the regular S6, unless the edge was the same price or maybe.. $50 more only.
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I really don't think anyone considering the edge is considering it for those reasons. It's mainly aesthetic.
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I'm probably the only one, and even then, it's still at least half for aesthetic reasons.
Thing is, I already go out of my way to differentiate callers before I have to interact with my device. At certain hours, my phone literally only rings for certain people. The current edge features, for me, pretty much just expand on that sort of thing. I'm hoping to be able to disable the vibrate function in certain situations and just rely on the color coding of the Edge screen.
Not to mention I'm guessing 3rd party devs might come up with some relatively nifty apps for the Edge screens sooner or later.
My thing right now is trying to find a case that doesn't stifle the beauty of the device too much while also not hiding the screen edges, yet, still offering some measure of decent protection. Might be an impossible battle (or I'll have to fabricate my own... I have ideas as to how it'd need to be done but I need the device in hand), but I'm waiting to see what my usual case manufacturer (Noreve) comes up with first. I know they always take the time to make their cases highly customized to specific designs of various devices, so if anyone is going to get it right it's them.
The writer states that there is no point to the beauty. But that's wrong -- the point is to be unique. The point is to stand out. Had there been no Edge version, the S6 story would be, "iPhone clone, looks like the S5 up front". The Edge changes that narrative. Instead of being "nice looking" like the S6, the Edge creates desire. That's the point.
Poetique said:
I'm probably the only one, and even then, it's still at least half for aesthetic reasons.
Thing is, I already go out of my way to differentiate callers before I have to interact with my device. At certain hours, my phone literally only rings for certain people. The current edge features, for me, pretty much just expand on that sort of thing. I'm hoping to be able to disable the vibrate function in certain situations and just rely on the color coding of the Edge screen.
Not to mention I'm guessing 3rd party devs might come up with some relatively nifty apps for the Edge screens sooner or later.
My thing right now is trying to find a case that doesn't stifle the beauty of the device too much while also not hiding the screen edges, yet, still offering some measure of decent protection. Might be an impossible battle (or I'll have to fabricate my own... I have ideas as to how it'd need to be done but I need the device in hand), but I'm waiting to see what my usual case manufacturer (Noreve) comes up with first. I know they always take the time to make their cases highly customized to specific designs of various devices, so if anyone is going to get it right it's them.
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Hopefully so. Right now, I'm justifying paying more because of
1) aesthetics
2) slightly larger battery
3) slightly smaller form factor
It would be nice to add functionality to that list as well.
There have been a few reviews that have showed the Edge with higher benchmarks and significantly longer battery life over the regular S6. So while that isn't necessarily a function of the curves, there may be some functional difference between the two models with the Edge having the advantage.
I went to best buy and checked both, the S6 feel amazing in the hand,the S6 edge feel weird, because of the small metal border,maybe after you get use to it ,everything will feel normal
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I went to best buy and checked both, the S6 feel amazing in the hand,the S6 edge feel weird, because of the small metal border,maybe after you get use to it ,everything will feel normal
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Wait what...they are in Best Buy?
Yes they are at Best Buy, you can check them, but pre order only
Sweet! I'll drive over and check them out
so i went to best buy and tried it out. first impression: the s6 felt better in hand, but the edge is the best looking smartphone on the market. i decided to pre-order the s6 because of the in-hand feeling and so i could save $100 bucks.
a few hours later, i couldn't stand it, so i went back to best buy and played around with the both of them again. i switched my pre-order to the edge version. the infinity pool effect is just so cool, and i was getting used to the sharper frame of the edge. also, it feels really nice to swipe in from the edge, and the curved screen does a great job of not registering inadvertent touches. also, the edge definitely got the most attention. lots of people looking at the edge. brought a friend with me who buys only apple products and he was impressed by the edge right off the bat. i guess in the end i caved, but this is the most excited i've been for a smartphone in a long time.
YOYO41 said:
I went to best buy and checked both, the S6 feel amazing in the hand,the S6 edge feel weird, because of the small metal border,maybe after you get use to it ,everything will feel normal
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I felt the same way about the S6 edge, it was too sharp in the hands. The S6 is more natural feeling like a phone should feel. Granted, the edge is a beautiful device. Now I have to change my pre-order to the regular S6.
EVOme said:
Check this out... Really makes me want to consider the regular S6.
1. I NEVER lay my phone face down.
2. I don't care about the ability to pull my fav contacts in from the side to call or message.
http://www.wired.com/2015/03/galaxy-s6-edge-pointless/
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Agreed. I played with both versions at Best Buy today...the S6 Regular feels much better in the hand to me than the S6 Edge
Opposite for me. The regular felt nice, but the Edge felt perfect. It also felt smaller and lighter in the hand even though the specs show a hairsbreadth of difference.
Hanson68 said:
Opposite for me. The regular felt nice, but the Edge felt perfect. It also felt smaller and lighter in the hand even though the specs show a hairsbreadth of difference.
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I agree. Plus the S6 does not make me want to upgrade from S5, just another phone, while the Edge has something new about it.
The S6 is a restyled iteration of the Galaxy line. The Edge looks like it stepped off the set of ST:TNG.
It's unique, that's why. First smartphone to have a dual edge screen.
So, like many, i have jumped on the S6 bandwagon, and am rather enjoying it so far (so much so that i haven't even bothered with bootloader or root yet). And while over the few days so far the glass is great (i would hope so.. sheesh), i have noticed some scratches already on the home button. Now, being that no phone will ever stay perfect, i accept that wear and tear will happen, but i was surprised to see it this early.
Certainly, i am happy enough with the phone (non scratched glass, good battery life (with bloat disabled), etc), but am curious to see if i am alone in this, or others have the same issue.
And more to that - will the scratches become a problem for the fingerprint reader (something i do enjoy using, and would like to keep doing so)? Perhaps some voices of experience can bring some wizdom..
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So, like many, i have jumped on the S6 bandwagon, and am rather enjoying it so far (so much so that i haven't even bothered with bootloader or root yet). And while over the few days so far the glass is great (i would hope so.. sheesh), i have noticed some scratches already on the home button. Now, being that no phone will ever stay perfect, i accept that wear and tear will happen, but i was surprised to see it this early.
Certainly, i am happy enough with the phone (non scratched glass, good battery life (with bloat disabled), etc), but am curious to see if i am alone in this, or others have the same issue.
And more to that - will the scratches become a problem for the fingerprint reader (something i do enjoy using, and would like to keep doing so)? Perhaps some voices of experience can bring some wizdom..
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Mine had scratches right out of the box and I scratched it further thinking there is a protective film over it since it looked like it had one. Its definitely a concern in the long run though I was able to get rid of the scratches by using toothpaste. My home button also wobbles a bit vertically and if I tap it gently in the left corner, it creates a clicky noise. The biggest concern for me right now is the pink tint on my s6's screen on the bottom half and left side. I can exchange but may end up getting the same/worse unit since most of the people who faced this issue ended up getting worse/similar units.
Will the finger print scanner stop working after many scratches is something we can only guess at the moment.
What's it made of?
The home button had the same vulnerability on the Note 4 and Note Edge, but it never affected the fingerprint reader. Micro scratches galore, but nothing too glaring and didn't affect the functionality.
Well, i certainly will agree right now, what i see is micro, and has had no impact on the scanning (4 fingers registered, no issue at all). I am a little disappointed that with the excellent build otherwise exhibited, something people will use most may be the most prone to scratches; but i also accept that that sensor may not work with more durable materials.
Still, a little more reassuring that the Note 4 is similar and should be ok..
I've noticed some minor scratches too on my home button. I'm not sure whether they were there out of the box as I didn't think to look closely at the time.
I imagine you could take a cheap plastic/PET type screen protector and cut out an oval shape and put it on the button. I'm not sure whether that would change the fingerprint recognition or not since I don't know how those scanners work. It would be easy to test though even before trying to cut the shape out.
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So, like many, i have jumped on the S6 bandwagon, and am rather enjoying it so far (so much so that i haven't even bothered with bootloader or root yet). And while over the few days so far the glass is great (i would hope so.. sheesh), i have noticed some scratches already on the home button. Now, being that no phone will ever stay perfect, i accept that wear and tear will happen, but i was surprised to see it this early.
Certainly, i am happy enough with the phone (non scratched glass, good battery life (with bloat disabled), etc), but am curious to see if i am alone in this, or others have the same issue.
And more to that - will the scratches become a problem for the fingerprint reader (something i do enjoy using, and would like to keep doing so)? Perhaps some voices of experience can bring some wizdom..
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any chance the micro scratches were there out of the box? i've had mine since April 1st and don't see any scratches...yet.
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any chance the micro scratches were there out of the box? i've had mine since April 1st and don't see any scratches...yet.
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Actually, yes, it is quite possible, as i noted them just about the second day i had it, and was shocked to see them. I may not have the smoothest thumbs, but the scratches went all the way across, which is also odd.
So far, no real issues, but it was surprising to see (part of me wrongly assumed the button was also glass).
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Actually, yes, it is quite possible, as i noted them just about the second day i had it, and was shocked to see them. I may not have the smoothest thumbs, but the scratches went all the way across, which is also odd.
So far, no real issues, but it was surprising to see (part of me wrongly assumed the button was also glass).
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honestly it should be glass. guess they're still working on premium quality 100%
it may be more likely that they were there out of box. i've tried scratching mine with my nail and no dice.
they have some assembly line and packing kinks to work out clearly. my device thankfully came unscathed but the plastic wrap that covered the phone looked like someone had pulled it back on with their finger/nail - there were 3 little indentions on it.
So, i hope its not related, but i have had my phone now fail to read my fingerprint a few times, and pop up a notice saying there was a failure, and if it keeps happening, reboot the phone. A reboot (or even manual unlock) seems to work, but i am hoping its not a sign of things to come...
No micro-scratches here yet....
I've confessions to make: I'm obsessed with physical buttons wearing off! The first app I installed is "pie control", which is something I really got accustomed to and find more practical than using home button and recent button, incidentally this saves a lot of click on the home button. I've been using for a while even an accessibility feature that let you wake up the phone by waving in front of it, to be honest I don't use much this one. Then again I use Nova Launcher and I set up a shortcut to lock the phone double tapping the display. I know I'm way overcaring about this, on the other hand I just dismissed my old S3 that was still practically perfect even after almost 3 years of usage.
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So, i hope its not related, but i have had my phone now fail to read my fingerprint a few times, and pop up a notice saying there was a failure, and if it keeps happening, reboot the phone. A reboot (or even manual unlock) seems to work, but i am hoping its not a sign of things to come...
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Let me recommend you something what I personally did after finding micro scratches right out of the box. Use an ear bud (used to clean ear) and a very small amount of toothpaste. Apply a little paste on the bud and gently rub the home button for a min or so. Once done, wipe it from a damp cloth and also taking out bits an pieces of the paste that may have got around the gaps.
I was completely able to remove micro scratches doing the above and hope it helps you too. People have also used the above method to clean their camera lenses with great effect. Look out for a thread under the Xperia Z3 compact page where people complaint of having scratches on their camera lens after using the phone for a while.
Note - Dont rub too hard on the home button. It wont harm but will take away the gloss from the button leaving it looking matte.
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What's it made of?
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The button is actually metal, but the substrate for the sensor (on top) is of a type of polymer film- like plastic? I'll post a source link when I get a chance. Thx
See link:
It's definitely not durable
https://techpolarity.wordpress.com
I'll give it a try tonight the toothpaste and the q-tips .... hope it works... i'll try to be as gentle as possible and go up from there ... thanks for the info man. Same problem here. Came, I believe scratched from the box, had a scratch on it from the first day and it went up from there. Dunno what is wrong with samsung they always have to screw up somehow.
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I'll give it a try tonight the toothpaste and the q-tips .... hope it works... i'll try to be as gentle as possible and go up from there ... thanks for the info man. Same problem here. Came, I believe scratched from the box, had a scratch on it from the first day and it went up from there. Dunno what is wrong with samsung they always have to screw up somehow.
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Yeah... I do believe they messed up this time.
https://techpolarity.wordpress.com
They decided to use a non-durable substrate. The above article explains why. Good luck!
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Yeah... I do believe they messed up this time.
https://techpolarity.wordpress.com
They decided to use a non-durable substrate. The above article explains why. Good luck!
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This is just conjecture. While it may very well be true, the author doesn't give any evidence or references to back this claim. For all we know, Samsung may have chosen plastic simply because it was cheaper.
when the iPhone 5S was launched, a few people expressed concerns that the sort of CMOS scanner they were using tends to deteriorate over time. This, thankfully, hasn't proven to be the case; however I think that this deterioration is mitigated by an exceptionally strong sapphire glass coating on the 5S's home button - and now on the 6 and 6 Plus.
I have concerns for the durability of the S6 home button too - not for the scratches (which mine also exhibited after only 6 days of careful use), but for the likelihood of the sensor itself wearing out over time, as they are supposedly prone to doing. If Samsung have indeed skimped on the protection this home button requires for long-term durability then people will be in for a nasty shock further down the line when they can no longer use the fingerprint recognition, or when it deteriorates to the point of being useless. For those who recommend using toothpaste to clean the scratches out, I would suggest that this is a terrible idea - clearly scratches are going to reappear anyway, and taking some of the already weedy protection away from the fingerprint scanner with a micro abrasive surely can't be a good idea.
I'm really happy with the S6 but the home button is a big concern for me. I simply don't think it's as high quality as the ones Apple use. My 6 day old S6 has been exchanged by the store for a new device as the home button not only rattled but didn't work at all on the left side unless it was pressed with a degree of weight. My replacement still jiggles a tiny but but is at least better.
To me this is a bigger issue than 'Sensorgate', which is just a load of rubbish as far as I'm concerned.
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when the iPhone 5S was launched, a few people expressed concerns that the sort of CMOS scanner they were using tends to deteriorate over time. This, thankfully, hasn't proven to be the case; however I think that this deterioration is mitigated by an exceptionally strong sapphire glass coating on the 5S's home button - and now on the 6 and 6 Plus.
I have concerns for the durability of the S6 home button too - not for the scratches (which mine also exhibited after only 6 days of careful use), but for the likelihood of the sensor itself wearing out over time, as they are supposedly prone to doing. If Samsung have indeed skimped on the protection this home button requires for long-term durability then people will be in for a nasty shock further down the line when they can no longer use the fingerprint recognition, or when it deteriorates to the point of being useless. For those who recommend using toothpaste to clean the scratches out, I would suggest that this is a terrible idea - clearly scratches are going to reappear anyway, and taking some of the already weedy protection away from the fingerprint scanner with a micro abrasive surely can't be a good idea.
I'm really happy with the S6 but the home button is a big concern for me. I simply don't think it's as high quality as the ones Apple use. My 6 day old S6 has been exchanged by the store for a new device as the home button not only rattled but didn't work at all on the left side unless it was pressed with a degree of weight. My replacement still jiggles a tiny but but is at least better.
To me this is a bigger issue than 'Sensorgate', which is just a load of rubbish as far as I'm concerned.
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You do make some really good points… When you returned your phone for exchange, was it a big pain in the ass? Did they hint that they do an exception for you?
I've just become very wary about returns, exchanges because I've been screwed before on exchanges and being stuck with a mediocre device.
Anyways, I am very surprised that not too many complaints about the sensor has come up on the web searches so far.
I could demonstrate that the home button wouldn't work on the left side unless I pressed it hard. They were able to replicate it themselves so it wasn't too much of an issue. I struggle to deal with high street stores in matters of poor quality control though as they tend to take the stance of 'I can't see anything...it's not really an issue to me'. One thing I miss when I move away from Apple products - not to sound like a fanboy - is that I feel I can trust that they will rectify any little annoyances I have.
One thing I feel confident in saying with absolute certainty is that the home button on the Galaxy S6 is not even close to the quality of Touch ID. It works, and it works well; but the feel it gives when you click it, the overall travel and the cheap plastic feel is a giveaway. Samsung are nearly up to iPhone standards with this device in terms of quality control but this button is its Achilles heel - they kind of cheaped out.
Got a preorder S7 Edge to upgrade an aging S3. Had an original S1 before that.
I turned it on and started using it (no pre factory reset wipe)...For some reason, my free Gear VR is still in the box unopened. I must try it.
Mostly, the S7 Edge is a great phone:
Camera is excellent in low light
General speed (using a Exynos version if that makes any difference)
Generally accurate fingerprint sensor
Exceptional battery life and good quick charge.
What's not so good (and the reason for this post to see if I can reach out to you guys for some help):
Perhaps it's my screen protector, but I have tried about 4 (some cheap, some expensive), but why is it that edge touch is not very accurate and does not always register?
I used my phone as a motorcycle sat nav when touring around Germany recently and I got the dreaded, your device is overheating....I thought these were water cooled?
It may have been my case as it was a hot day, leather case, and no vents. Not seen that message since.
The fingerprint sensor software is not very clever. Why does it not change the detection orientation when the phone orientation changes?
Surely this is trivial to achieve in software. Yes I know you can record multiple fingerprints, but still.
If you follow John Carmack on Twitter, you will have seen a tweet on this
Now some software issues.
Smart Stay basically doesn't work. Doesn't work how it used to on the S3, which to be honest wasn't great, but it plainly doesn't work on my S7 Edge. Anyone had this?
Google Maps navigation has some issues in that the voice cuts off in the middle of instructing what roundabout exit to take or which turn to make.
"In 50 metres, take the ...."
"In 100 metres, turn ....."
It doesn't do it all the time, but as you can imagine, when it does, it's f*cking annoying, especially as I use the Nav on the bike sometimes where I have the phone just in my jacket pocket and I wear earphones to listen.
Oh yeah...I do wish I had just gone with the standard S7 due to edge issues (see above), but I love reading PDFs on the larger screen and longer lasting battery.
Finally, this is the last expensive (over priced) premium phone I will buy...I bought the other half a Meizu m2 Note for Christmas to replace an OG Galaxy Note.
It was difficult at first as I had to install an English ROM and remove some crap, but the phone is pretty flawless and it makes me question spending the price of a small used car, more than the price of 4 sets of sticky track day motorcycle tyres, or more than the price of my American style large fridge freezer....on a phone.
If anyone has solutions to my issues listed, your help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Perhaps it's my screen protector, but I have tried about 4 (some cheap, some expensive), but why is it that edge touch is not very accurate and does not always register?
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I do not use the edge touch all that much, but it seems like you need to swipe from the bezel, onto the edge of the screen for it to work every time, that works for me at least.
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I used my phone as a motorcycle sat nav when touring around Germany recently and I got the dreaded, your device is overheating....I thought these were water cooled?
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Was the phone in direct sunlight, on a mount etc.? If so it makes sense why it would overheat while using GPS, if it was in a case and in a pocket etc. that might be the reason as well, since it wouldn’t be able to be cooled as well. They call it water-cooling, but it's actually a vapor chamber afaik, that condenses the cooling fluid in the heat sink part, as the heat is removed from the cooling fluid, and then lets it evaporate once again when it goes into contact with the parts that need cooling, at the other end of the heat pipe.
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The fingerprint sensor software is not very clever. Why does it not change the detection orientation when the phone orientation changes?
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You need to register your fingerprints where you do not just use the finger in one orientation, but multiple, I usually do the different angles that my fingers might be in when unlocking the phone. Having them at a 45-degree angle etc. since you can do a ton of different angles before it has "saved" your print.
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Smart Stay basically doesn't work. Doesn't work how it used to on the S3, which to be honest wasn't great, but it plainly doesn't work on my S7 Edge. Anyone had this?
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Couldn't agree more.. I felt I was the only one...
Edge screen is problematic... not many apps in play store for edge screen.
Another problem I found was automatically starting multi screen mode.. very annoying.. had to install an app just to disable it. No out of box way to disable it.
With my S3, I could specify call blocking using just a pattern.. (e.g. block all incoming calls starting with 0845) can't do that S4 onwards
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How is the overheating issue? Does it quick overheating?
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How is the overheating issue? Does it quick overheating?
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It takes some time before it overheats, and that is when its in direct sunlight.
Has anyone had the issues with Google Maps navigation?
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Perhaps it's my screen protector, but I have tried about 4 (some cheap, some expensive), but why is it that edge touch is not very accurate and does not always register?
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Probably the protector. I have no problems with the edges on mine. None of the TGSP protectors are worth a penny.
I used my phone as a motorcycle sat nav when touring around Germany recently and I got the dreaded, your device is overheating....I thought these were water cooled? It may have been my case as it was a hot day, leather case, and no vents. Not seen that message since.
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There's a fraction of a millilitre of liquid in there. It helps, but it works by transferring heat to a larger area of the phone's back. If that heat is trapped by a case..... I haven't used it on my motorcycle, but have had no overheating problems using Nav in my convertible.
The fingerprint sensor software is not very clever. Why does it not change the detection orientation when the phone orientation changes?
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You can store multiple orientations of your fingerprint when you set it up. Instead of holding your thumb or finger in one position and just moving it up and down, program the sensor with your thumb horizontal and vertical, and at angels in between. I can rotate my thumb 90 degrees and the phone still unlocks. All in one of the four storage locations. I have one programmed for my right thumb, one for my left, and the other two for each index finger.
Smart Stay basically doesn't work. Doesn't work how it used to on the S3, which to be honest wasn't great, but it plainly doesn't work on my S7 Edge. Anyone had this?
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Yep, this seems to be a bug. Quite a few people have encountered this, including me.
Google Maps navigation has some issues in that the voice cuts off in the middle of instructing what roundabout exit to take or which turn to make.
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I've not encountered this at all.
Oh yeah...I do wish I had just gone with the standard S7 due to edge issues (see above), but I love reading PDFs on the larger screen and longer lasting battery.
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I'd have chosen a flat S7 if they made one with a 5.5" screen and large battery, but as I said above I have no issues with edge touch.
Quick update...
The recent MMB29K.G935FXXU1APF2 update seems to have cured my Google Maps navigation voice issue.
Also, the touch screen sensitivity issues are resolved by using the SGS Touchscreen Booster app.
It says that it only works on the original Galaxy S, but this is not true.
usage a month I've scratched screen , if anyone has experienced the same thing ?
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usage a month I've scratched screen , if anyone has experienced the same thing ?
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Lol.. you can very easily scratch a screen in a day or not at all for years.. my S3 hasn't got a single scratch (touch wood) it's exactly being 4yrs today since I received it first....
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usage a month I've scratched screen , if anyone has experienced the same thing ?
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The glass scratches easily.
I use a cheap Chinese screen protector (I have tried the expensive ones too and don't see the benefit).
I tried a tempered glass protector made by Olixar, but the company doesn't seem to test it's products together because it was incompatible with their leather case.
I sent the glass back for a refund and put another cheap screen protector back on, and so far no scratches. The back is a different story, yes even with the leather case.
I recommend at least to use a screen protector but also a leather case for some drop protection.
If the scratches are not too deep you may be able to remove them using cerium oxide powder.
I'm planning to buy S8 next week, so i wanted to hear some opinions, impressions, experiences from the people who already own this phone.
I tryied the phone at the store, it looks nice, it feels nice and it works great, but i would still like to hear what it's like on the daily basis, how's the battery life, does it lag after some time....etc
And one more thing. I've noticed some red tint at the top border, was it just me, or other people noticed the same thing?
Thanks.
I would honestly describe this phone as being the closest phone to perfect that i have ever owned! The only flaw is the finger print scanner! Battery life is very good! Display is excellent, Ergonomically its probably one of the best phones on the market! Likewise the camera is great! There is nothing bad about the device! If someone was to suggest they prefer another handset over the s8 however then iam sure it would purely be personal preference as oppose to choosing it because its better then the S8! Even the software on the S8 is massively improved over previous versions!! But....... just my opinion!!
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I would honestly describe this phone as being the closest phone to perfect that i have ever owned! The only flaw is the finger print scanner! Battery life is very good! Display is excellent, Ergonomically its probably one of the best phones on the market! Likewise the camera is great! There is nothing bad about the device! If someone was to suggest they prefer another handset over the s8 however then iam sure it would purely be personal preference as oppose to choosing it because its better then the S8! Even the software on the S8 is massively improved over previous versions!! But....... just my opinion!!
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Thank you.
As for the fingerprint reader, what exactly you don't like about it? It's location, accuracy, speed, or something else?
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Thank you.
As for the fingerprint reader, what exactly you don't like about it? It's location, accuracy, speed, or something else?
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Location mostly! Haven't even really bothered using it as a result! Tried it out initially and seemed accurate etc but the location just makes using it awkward and its just not as convenient for unlocking the device quickly as it was when we had it on the front! All samsung had to do was place it under the camera as oppose to right beside it and it would be alot better! The haptic feedback home button is pretty cool and actually kinda reminds me of using the finger print sensor on the s7 as you can essentially just press where the home button would of been and it unlocks the device! The downside being of course that anyone can do so as its not an actual security feature!!
I got my S8 approximately 3 weeks ago. I've just come from the iPhone 7 I find the S8 Amazing and it is very sleek. The software is pretty good and very customisable, the battery life is brilliant. The only problem is Samsung have this annoying thing called Bixby which is a siri want to be. It is not possible to deactivate or disable it. The only way to work around this you have to freeze it. Had some random bugs with the Bluetooth. Otherwise amazing phone.
I've had mine around 3 weeks. I have the Samsung clear case so I have no problem with the fingerprint sensor. I'll be putting a DecalGirl skin on so when I'm using the Rhino Bumper I'll still have a tactile nudge. Came from an International S6 (actually the same one you seem to have). Bit better battery life, no lag, amazing screen. I was surprised at how comfortable it is to hold and I'm happy to have an SD card again. I was hesitant to give up my S6 after it got Nougat as it was like a new phone. Can't imagine going back now.
One of the best devices this year... It's a Star on XDA!
It's an amazing phone. Best one I've ever had. I've had it since 4/18. Finger print location doesn't bother me at all. You'll love it!
Perfect. I did configured the fingerprint sensor but I dont use it much. I prefer the iris scanner, its fast. The rest you read it already. Screen, features, hardware, design, battery, you wont regret it
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I'm planning to buy S8 next week, so i wanted to hear some opinions, impressions, experiences from the people who already own this phone.
I tryied the phone at the store, it looks nice, it feels nice and it works great, but i would still like to hear what it's like on the daily basis, how's the battery life, does it lag after some time....etc
And one more thing. I've noticed some red tint at the top border, was it just me, or other people noticed the same thing?
Thanks.
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I have the international variant so experience may vary. I love it. Not the biggest fan of the fingerprint scanner position but after a couple days, it became natural. It's very smooth. Smoother than the S7 I'd have to say.
Battery life is amazing. Can easily get over a day of life, even 2 days sometimes. I haven't experienced any lag over time.
The red tint you noticed was probably burn in. That's the only problem I understand with the phone since it's an OLED display. I keep mine in immersive mode and use gestures for the navbar instead (I prefer it actually).
There was an issue with some displays at launch having a red tint which was resolved through software update.
Here my review. It has some profanity so if u don't like hearing cursing don't watch. But it's pretty popular on YouTube at 29k views
You will get used to fingerscanner location and it will not bother. Also useless bixby button can be remapped without root, so no prob here too.
Great phone!
Fps works fine and is ok to reach on my s8 but not for me on the + model.
Face recognition and iris scanner works fine.
The new Samsung Experience Ui is slick and fast.
I'm in the uk so have the exynos version.
The display just pops.
For me the dimensions of the s8 hit my sweet spot and it's really comfortable to hold.
The s8+ version for me was just too big and to me felt top heavy.
It's as slippery as any other glass form factor phone.
I'm using....
Samsung Screen Protector- the film type.
Black Dragon dbrand back skin.
RhinoShield Bumper.
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Here my review. It has some profanity so if u don't like hearing cursing don't watch. But it's pretty popular on YouTube at 29k views
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That's exactly what i wanted to know, a daily experience and overall impressions.
Great video man :good:
Only issue with my S8: Display light shines through right under the earpiece. Someone else noticed that?
Apart from that the phone is close to perfect for me.
Do not forget THE SCREEN SCRATCHES VERY EASY.
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I get a consistent 5 hours of screen on time every day. And as the other guy noted this screen does scratch easily. I had a buddy that scratched his pretty bad and had no idea how he did it. Haven't scratched mine yet after a couple weeks with no screen protector though. I came from a 6S+ and a note 5 before that and I'm pretty happy with this phone after flashing my unlocked Verizon version to an unbranded Canadian firmware.
uk neverlocked has problems "emergency call only"
I recommend to you that you buy the french version
http://www.expansys.fr/samsung-galaxy-s8-64gb-midnight-black-origin-eu-301130/
I had a s7 edge which is dead last week when trying to put it in water :'(. So I bought s8. So thats what I find:
1/ I really didn't like the unlock features.. the fingerprint sensor is in the back so it is just useless (ps you can save 4 fingers but I dont know how my 4 fingers can access to the fingerprint). The iris scanner cannot be used if the phone is a little bit far (in the car for exemple when you are driving I used to unlock my s7 directly with finger). To be able to unlock your s8 when its far you must use face recognition it is quick but it is useless at night because it uses camera. (Ps1: you cannot see your lockscreen before/without unlocking. Ps2: you cannot use iris and facerecognition at the same time so you must choose night compatible or far compatible).
2/ the screen ration is just so bad.. videos/apps/games are not adapted with display ratio so the phone will show two black bars at the top and at the buttom of the screen + the nav bar is, in the most cases, present in the screen and dont disappear automatically so there is no sense of "infinity screen" and I cant feel it.
3/ the battery takes more time with my s7 edge then my new s8.
So I really felt that s7 edge was better (for me) but samsung should not tell people that phones are water resistant because its not always true. (Sorry for bad english).
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I had a s7 edge which is dead last week when trying to put it in water :'(. So I bought s8. So thats what I find:
1/ I really didn't like the unlock features.. the fingerprint sensor is in the back so it is just useless (ps you can save 4 fingers but I dont know how my 4 fingers can access to the fingerprint). The iris scanner cannot be used if the phone is a little bit far (in the car for exemple when you are driving I used to unlock my s7 directly with finger). To be able to unlock your s8 when its far you must use face recognition it is quick but it is useless at night because it uses camera. (Ps1: you cannot see your lockscreen before/without unlocking. Ps2: you cannot use iris and facerecognition at the same time so you must choose night compatible or far compatible).
2/ the screen ration is just so bad.. videos/apps/games are not adapted with display ratio so the phone will show two black bars at the top and at the buttom of the screen + the nav bar is, in the most cases, present in the screen and dont disappear automatically so there is no sense of "infinity screen" and I cant feel it.
3/ the battery takes more time with my s7 edge then my new s8.
So I really felt that s7 edge was better (for me) but samsung should not tell people that phones are water resistant because its not always true. (Sorry for bad english).
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Great mini review
I'll keep in mind everything you said.
Thanks.
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Your English is fine.