I just recently rooted and put a ROM on my phone. Like a few days ago.
Just the other day, it looks at though Verizon has rolled out an update. How can I get rid of the notification on my phone without installing it?
Also, will I have to put a new ROM on it now that there is an update?
I assume you're running Muniz's OA8 rom, so you could either update to the OC4 rom that is rooted or delete or freeze, I suggest freeze, using Titanium Backup. I'm not sure what it's called but check for something started with either software update or Verizon with software update somewhere in the title.
mrjiggywiggy said:
I assume you're running Muniz's OA8 rom, so you could either update to the OC4 rom that is rooted or delete or freeze, I suggest freeze, using Titanium Backup. I'm not sure what it's called but check for something started with either software update or Verizon with software update somewhere in the title.
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If you're on a stock rooted rom, you can take the update and keep root. It won't update though if it's not mostly stock. From what I'm seeing, OC4 is more fluid, faster and has better battery, so it would be worth it if you're not looking toward a more customized ROM.
I'm using G900V_OA8_100%_Stock_Rooted_ROM with G900V_OA8_TetherAddOn.zip Will this take the update without any problems?
freqflyer said:
I'm using G900V_OA8_100%_Stock_Rooted_ROM with G900V_OA8_TetherAddOn.zip Will this take the update without any problems?
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As long as you didn't make any larger changes it should work fine. You could try the OTA anyway and if it doesn't work you should still be fine.
freqflyer said:
I'm using G900V_OA8_100%_Stock_Rooted_ROM with G900V_OA8_TetherAddOn.zip Will this take the update without any problems?
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It won't work with tether, but there's a thread by muniz about installing the update, where you can find the tether removal. Or you could just flash his stock rooted OC4 from the same thread.
Can I add tether after taking the update?
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freqflyer said:
Can I add tether after taking the update?
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You'd have to flash back to a Kitkat kernel, install the tether ZIP via Safestrap then flash the Lollipop kernel back to the device. Should be good as gold.
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I have just received an OTA update to 2.3.6. I have been connecting my Note to my laptop using Kies for the last few days to see if it was available that way but there was no mention of an update. So I was pleased when I did an update check using Settings on my phone and discovered one was available OTA. It is good getting OTA updates just like on the Nexus One so there is no risk of installing the wrong firmware or making a mistake using Kies.
So what difference does the update make?
received my note yesterday and had OTA 2.3.6 XXKKA also 15 megs size.
also interested to know the differences
i bought from carphonewarehouse and got OTA 2.3.6 this morning too.
ps. its stock phone with no root.
So this removes root and CWM?
Edit: apparently root and apps are not touched on this update according to the other thread about this.
Just downloaded and install failed, it said to try using kies...
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just downloaded update via phones updater and installing now...ill report back with more info after
ok successful.. phone updated to
2.3.6
N70000XXKK5
kernel = KKA
ok i can confirm root is left alone and all apps and settings preserved
HTC Chris said:
So this removes root and CWM?
Edit: apparently root and apps are not touched on this update according to the other thread about this.
Just downloaded and install failed, it said to try using kies...
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Have the same. It failed to update, said to try by kies. I also have rooted stock ROM.
Maybe we should unroot ?
buk_grudziadz said:
Have the same. It failed to update, said to try by kies. I also have rooted stock ROM.
Maybe we should unroot ?
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That may be the case, so I'll probably do this later today since it's almost 3am. I don't want to set everything up tonight.
Or we can just wait for a custom ROM that will have the update.
Edit: I don't understand though why people who are rooted in the other thread got it to work.
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people rooting doesnt effect the updating. im rooted and ive just completed update fine.... download the update via wifi like i did and it works great.. see my post above
DAMIEN123_666 said:
people rooting doesnt effect the updating. im rooted and ive just completed update fine.... download the update via wifi like i did and it works great.. see my post above
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That's how I downloaded the update.
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Thanks for the thread! I've nicely updated my phone
Also got 2.3.6 OTA today. Phone is from the Polish Plus+ telco. Seems much snappier all around. Will be interesting to see if battery life improves too. Also the stylus seems more accurate but it's hard to say...
Bring on ICS!
mine fails the wifi update. tried 3 times. my phone is rooted.
fire up kies and says that kj4 is the latest
perhaps its to do with the method you used for rooting.
iirc, there are a couple of different root methods, some of them seem to affect the tamper counter (cant think of what its really called). maybe the update is only available for those who still have the counter at 0?
dont quote me on this though, im still a nubblet on the tweaking side of android.
i followed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
to root.
Gaugerer said:
I have just received an OTA update to 2.3.6. I have been connecting my Note to my laptop using Kies for the last few days to see if it was available that way but there was no mention of an update. So I was pleased when I did an update check using Settings on my phone and discovered one was available OTA. It is good getting OTA updates just like on the Nexus One so there is no risk of installing the wrong firmware or making a mistake using Kies.
So what difference does the update make?
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Can this UK version turn off focus sound and camera sounds??
ballfire said:
i followed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
to root.
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It seems rooting has nothing to do with it. I've rooted by the CF-Root method 2.
Maybe any other changes make the problem (theme mods ?)
buk_grudziadz said:
It seems rooting has nothing to do with it. I've rooted by the CF-Root method 2.
Maybe any other changes make the problem (theme mods ?)
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I don't have theme mods, I disabled go launcher ex, and unfroze my bloatware too
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HTC Chris said:
I don't have theme mods, I disabled go launcher ex, and unfroze my bloatware too
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What about AndroidIceCreamSandwichtheme by movmo ?
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What about AndroidIceCreamSandwichtheme by movmo ?
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No I had to revert back to the stock theme since the dialer had problems. Worst case scenerio I may have to wait for a custom ROM, maybe ill try updating through kies later.
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I rooted my note with Chainfire's tutorial using the zergrush method and installed the new KKA kernel.
My phone downloaded this new update but failed to flash it on reboot. I think I'll just wait and see if Chainfire releases his own version or there is a rom with it built in.
I got a message last night on my note that there is a firmware update available. I've got a GT-N7000 on AT&T and am running a rooted stock ROM with CWM. When I try to install the update it reboots the phone and then tells me "Failed to update firmware. Try again using PC software (Kies) or visit a Samsung service centre". The update is 101MB. I did a search and didn't see any other posts about this so thought I'd ask if anyone knows what the update is and how I can get it installed.
Thanks.
Its probably because your rooted. I was on a rooted rom and flashed the stock kka firmware my phone came with then updated without a problem. I did't try to update while being rooted though.
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You could just flash a stock rooted rom of the update. The update is the Lc1 firmware.
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Look for OTA rootkeeper on the market. Never tried it but some people that they could update OTA and keep their root
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I have the same problem. I'm on the international Note (in UK), have rooted the phone for titanium backup and autostarts (I've deleted some bloatware and frozen others), but haven't played around with custom roms or flashing because I don't really know about that sort of stuff. Also, the firmware update here is 73.5 mb.
Tried ota app, but that doesn't really make a difference and it's only intended to keep root if an already successful ota update has unrooted the phone. Our problem is the the update isn't completing successfully.
I'm worried that the upcoming ICS update won't work either.
Any solutions would be massively appreciated, especially if they don't involve flashing or doing a factory reset.
Thanks
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Painless001 said:
I have the same problem. I'm on the international Note (in UK), have rooted the phone for titanium backup and autostarts (I've deleted some bloatware and frozen others), but haven't played around with custom roms or flashing because I don't really know about that sort of stuff. Also, the firmware update here is 73.5 mb.
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If you've played around with /system, you won't be able to OTA for the most part, as these updates are patches and expect to find an untouched /system partition.
Regards,
Dave
I tried OTA Rootkeeper but no luck. Is there a way to back up my apps and settings such that I could easily restore them after flashing a stock ROM that includes the update?
white_devil said:
I tried OTA Rootkeeper but no luck. Is there a way to back up my apps and settings such that I could easily restore them after flashing a stock ROM that includes the update?
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install LC1 ger rom - latest no wipe . or open eu - but only biggest file - also no wipe
According to this IBT Blog, restoring to stock ROM is mandatory for receiving the upcoming OTA update to 4.2.
Does any one know if this is true, as the last OTA update to 4.1.2 automatically launched and completed just fine on my N7 in its rooted state?
digixmax said:
According to this IBT Blog, restoring to stock ROM is mandatory for receiving the upcoming OTA update to 4.2.
Does any one know if this is true, as the last OTA update to 4.1.2 automatically launched and completed just fine on my N7 in its rooted state?
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I think you're confusing running the stock rom and being rooted. One can be rooted while still running the stock rom. If this is the case, you should have no problem receiving the OTA update. On the other hand, if you loaded a custom rom (e.g., CyanogenMOD), you won't get the OTA update.
nyijedi said:
I think you're confusing running the stock rom and being rooted. One can be rooted while still running the stock rom. If this is the case, you should have no problem receiving the OTA update. On the other hand, if you loaded a custom rom (e.g., CyanogenMOD), you won't get the OTA update.
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Am I still able to get the OTA update, if I'm on Stock rooted, but modify the system to have tablet UI?
If not, what will be my option, to update the tablet? I guess manually pushing the Rom might work, but a reassuring would be good
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Bcroc said:
Am I still able to get the OTA update, if I'm on Stock rooted, but modify the system to have tablet UI?
If not, what will be my option, to update the tablet? I guess manually pushing the Rom might work, but a reassuring would be good
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I haven't messed around with modifying the UI, but I have replaced and disabled system apps in the past, and that stops the OTA from installing (it will download the OTA, but the install will fail). I suspect it's possible that the same thing will happen with a modified UI, but I'm not 100% sure. What is the process for modifying the UI? Did you replace certain files? If so, hopefully you saved the original versions and can revert back to the originals.
Bcroc said:
Am I still able to get the OTA update, if I'm on Stock rooted, but modify the system to have tablet UI?
If not, what will be my option, to update the tablet? I guess manually pushing the Rom might work, but a reassuring would be good
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Can you keep us updated here if you decide to try and install the OTA update while in tablet UI? i would be interested as well if it will update
Bcroc said:
Am I still able to get the OTA update, if I'm on Stock rooted, but modify the system to have tablet UI?
If not, what will be my option, to update the tablet? I guess manually pushing the Rom might work, but a reassuring would be good
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If all you did was change the dpi then yes it wont matter your build.prop is going to be overwritten anyways
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Can you keep us updated here if you decide to try and install the OTA update while in tablet UI? i would be interested as well if it will update
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Of course, but I think I will wait the update before doing anything, that's just more convenient
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nyijedi said:
I haven't messed around with modifying the UI, but I have replaced and disabled system apps in the past, and that stops the OTA from installing (it will download the OTA, but the install will fail). I suspect it's possible that the same thing will happen with a modified UI, but I'm not 100% sure. What is the process for modifying the UI? Did you replace certain files? If so, hopefully you saved the original versions and can revert back to the originals.
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No, I don't wan to replace anything, only modify the build.prop to have a different density setting.
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nyijedi said:
I think you're confusing running the stock rom and being rooted. One can be rooted while still running the stock rom. If this is the case, you should have no problem receiving the OTA update. On the other hand, if you loaded a custom rom (e.g., CyanogenMOD), you won't get the OTA update.
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I do know the difference between Stock ROM vs. Stock ROM + Rooted -- but I had just read the IBT blog too fast and plus I implicitly assume that folks who use custom ROM would just wait until their particular custom ROM rolls onto 4.2 base, to realize that folks with custom ROM is the target audience of the IBT blog.
So its safe to update via ota if your on stock rooted? Ive seen people saying its fine but on my old atrix I was warned it would brick my device.
jefferson9 said:
So its safe to update via ota if your on stock rooted? Ive seen people saying its fine but on my old atrix I was warned it would brick my device.
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My N7 went through the last update just fine (other than getting un-rooted).
I'm still on the stock ROM. I've heard rumors of VZW putting out updates to help with battery etc. I have the SDM file frozen so it won't auto OTA and lock the phone up. But I also don't want to miss out on solid improvements.
Suggestions?
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I'm still on the stock ROM. I've heard rumors of VZW putting out updates to help with battery etc. I have the SDM file frozen so it won't auto OTA and lock the phone up. But I also don't want to miss out on solid improvements.
Suggestions?
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Whole threads covering people who were rooted already downloading the most current firmware updates (two of them for Verizon landed via Kies in last couple of days) and then going back in after the updates and re-rooting their N3's. The current firmware updates keep SELinux at Permissive.
Runamuck0870 said:
Whole threads covering people who were rooted already downloading the most current firmware updates (two of them for Verizon landed via Kies in last couple of days) and then going back in after the updates and re-rooting their N3's. The current firmware updates keep SELinux at Permissive.
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So are they "unrooting" to do this? Sorry, I'm a bit of a newb. I'm used to running custom ROM's and not dealing with VZW whatsoever when it comes to updates.
Any idea on how to unroot the N3 and prompt for an update?
deputydog95 said:
Any idea on how to unroot the N3 and prompt for an update?
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You can use superuser to unroot
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neopolotin75 said:
You can use superuser to unroot
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I didn't know that. I'll check it out.
Any idea on how to prompt for a verizon firmware update once I have it unrooted?
Once it's unrooted, is there anything else I need to do?
I haven't installed a custom ROM or custom recovery software.
deputydog95 said:
Once it's unrooted, is there anything else I need to do?
I haven't installed a custom ROM or custom recovery software.
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You can use Kies to get the update
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Heya. I have a rooted verizon note 3. I see i can get the 4.4.4 ota update. So i uninstalled root via SuperSU. I get an error trying to do the ota update. Is there a way to install this update without having to use odin and flashing stock? I dont want to lose all my appz settings etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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Probably not a good idea to take the update. I'd wait until our trusty devs get ahold of the OTA and do their magic.
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
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lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
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Just install the nk1 modem. That is all you need if you are trying to get better reception.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722641747
Flash with Odin 3.09.
lackdog said:
Heya. I have a rooted verizon note 3. I see i can get the 4.4.4 ota update. So i uninstalled root via SuperSU. I get an error trying to do the ota update. Is there a way to install this update without having to use odin and flashing stock? I dont want to lose all my appz settings etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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That might just of been the best error ever, especially if you use root a lot. No way to go back and no known, released root at the moment for that version. Like above me has said, try flashing the NK1 modem using Odin and see if that improves your signal any.
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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lackdog said:
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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If you want the benefits "fixes" of the latest, would be be smart to Odin stock so you are clean when you take the OTA.
lackdog said:
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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You do realize...that if you take the OTA...you WILL lose root. At this point in time...there is no known way to root 4.4.4 and the latest OTA.
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how to track 4.4.4 rooting progress?
donc113 said:
You do realize...that if you take the OTA...you WILL lose root. At this point in time...there is no known way to root 4.4.4 and the latest OTA.
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I too have read ambiguous posts of people who have used the 4.4.4 OTA on a towelroot'ed Verizon Note 3s. I've been skeptical that this would work and keep root so thanks for clarifying.
I have a question though. Where should I look to keep track of the latest news about a root technique for a Verizon Note 3? Also, is there a place to contribute to a bounty for someone who can figure this out?
I ask because If you google "samsung note 3 Verizon 4.4.4 towelroot" there are tons of hits, but most of them are from eons ago and while I root my phone, I am not a developer, and so don't know the lay of the land. In the past I've just searched for "root verizon samsung note 3" and crawled through the resulting mound of irrelevant material until eventually I found the answer. Or is the answer simply that every few days I search again to see if anything new pops up?
I realize this is a totally newbie question, but I'm a long-time newbie: I've been rooting my phones for years but I don't have a lot of phones and updates only come out every so often so I never really move up the learning curve of how to do this quickly and easily. I suspect others have the same problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
My phone messed up earlier this week and I had to use repair assistant and when I did it updated me to NK1 KitKat 4.4.4 and I lost root and can not get it back plus the reception issue is still terrible.
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Marlon1691 said:
I too have read ambiguous posts of people who have used the 4.4.4 OTA on a towelroot'ed Verizon Note 3s. I've been skeptical that this would work and keep root so thanks for clarifying.
I have a question though. Where should I look to keep track of the latest news about a root technique for a Verizon Note 3? Also, is there a place to contribute to a bounty for someone who can figure this out?
I ask because If you google "samsung note 3 Verizon 4.4.4 towelroot" there are tons of hits, but most of them are from eons ago and while I root my phone, I am not a developer, and so don't know the lay of the land. In the past I've just searched for "root verizon samsung note 3" and crawled through the resulting mound of irrelevant material until eventually I found the answer. Or is the answer simply that every few days I search again to see if anything new pops up?
I realize this is a totally newbie question, but I'm a long-time newbie: I've been rooting my phones for years but I don't have a lot of phones and updates only come out every so often so I never really move up the learning curve of how to do this quickly and easily. I suspect others have the same problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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It likely is possible to update and keep root. But if after updating you screw up a mod, etc. and need to get back to stock you will lose root permanently.
flashing modem
leroybrute said:
Just install the nk1 modem. That is all you need if you are trying to get better reception.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722641747
Flash with Odin 3.09.
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Hello I see flashing with odin 3.09, I think I have 3.29- does it matter and I am on biggins rom as well. You dont have to unroot or anything?
Thanls,
TJ
tjmethod said:
Hello I see flashing with odin 3.09, I think I have 3.29- does it matter and I am on biggins rom as well. You dont have to unroot or anything?
Thanls,
TJ
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There is no Odin 3.29 out. Just Google Odin 3.09 and download to your desktop if you don't
already have it. Then flash the modem to your phone. Don't unroot.
Odin 3.09
leroybrute said:
There is no Odin 3.29 out. Just Google Odin 3.09 and download to your desktop if you don't
already have it. Then flash the modem to your phone. Don't unroot.
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Hi I did have the 3.09, plugged in as media & media 3.0 but it didnt work- any ideas?... I think I have plenty of space. Attached is is the screen I get on Odin.
Thanks,
TJ
tjmethod said:
Hi I did have the 3.09, plugged in as media & media 3.0 but it didnt work- any ideas?... I think I have plenty of space. Attached is is the screen I get on Odin.
Thanks,
TJ
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You need to put your phone in download mode before plugging into pc. Make sure debugging is checked in developer settings.
Thanks…
I forgot the download mode and to check the debug- always in a rush…
Ill check it when I get in- thanks again
tjmethod said:
I forgot the download mode and to check the debug- always in a rush…
Ill check it when I get in- thanks again
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No, I thank you... Ha
GoNavyMike said:
lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
My phone messed up earlier this week and I had to use repair assistant and when I did it updated me to NK1 KitKat 4.4.4 and I lost root and can not get it back plus the reception issue is still terrible.
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Verizon forced me to upgrade before they would troubleshoot my phone.
I was not able to do it OTA, but using the Verizon upgrade tool works.
Now I lost root, & I gained a whole bunch of bloatware. Very frustrating
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Brainfire2 said:
GoNavyMike said:
Verizon forced me to upgrade before they would troubleshoot my phone.
I was not able to do it OTA, but using the Verizon upgrade tool works.
Now I lost root, & I gained a whole bunch of bloatware. Very frustrating
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That is why you should always tell them you are on the latest firmware
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I read about 4.4.4 and didn't like what they took away from 4.4.2. I won't go to it. If I were you I'd 'towelroot'- (get the simple steps on xda), and 'beanstown 106' has all the firmwares for these phones, put the nc4 on w/ 4.4.2, then install biggins rom v7, then upgrade via dirty flash with 8.0 then immediately w/ 8.3- fast touch response and after about 3-4 days, you'lI be getting twice the battery life… I jumped up to the new v9 but they dont have the theme for it yet. I miss the Kromex blue on black…