S6 is vibrating itself off the wireless charging pad. - Galaxy S6 General

A bit of a random one that falls under the "I crap you not" category, but it seems the combination of slippery glass back + a wireless charger (non-Samsung brand) that has a high pitch whine seems to be just enough to cause the phone to slowly rotate until it completely falls off the charger after about 5 minutes.
Just throwing it out there in case I'm not the only one. I'm going to be putting a Ringke slim case on it in a couple days like I did with the S3, S4, and S5 which will solve the problem.

dr/owned said:
A bit of a random one that falls under the "I crap you not" category, but it seems the combination of slippery glass back + a wireless charger (non-Samsung brand) that has a high pitch whine seems to be just enough to cause the phone to slowly rotate until it completely falls off the charger after about 5 minutes.
Just throwing it out there in case I'm not the only one. I'm going to be putting a Ringke slim case on it in a couple days like I did with the S3, S4, and S5 which will solve the problem.
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Why not use IF to make a rule: If it's charging, turn vibrate off?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ifttt.ifttt&hl=en

entropism said:
Why not use IF to make a rule: If it's charging, turn vibrate off?
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The phone's vibrator isn't what's vibrating. My guess is it's inductor coil whine that's causing just enough vibration to rotate the phone off the pad (wiki has a page called Coil noise)

Oh wow, that's... kind of awesome, in the worst way possible. I'll say this: I have no issues whatsoever with my Nokia Qi chargers, the D900s I believe? The plates that AT&T sold for the Lumia 920, and they blew out for $5 each a while back. Awesome, awesome chargers.

buy some thin rubber film that has an adhesive on one side and put it on the pad.

*snarky comment removed sry*

tft said:
buy some thin rubber film that has an adhesive on one side and put it on the pad.
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This. Just a thin rubber film should suffice.
By the way, have anybody tried to use wireless charging with the S6 wrapped in a protective case? I read about materials and wireless charging and I read even 1 cm of plastic barrier should not be a problem, but just wanted to make sure if somebody has tried it already.

D15 said:
This. Just a thin rubber film should suffice.
By the way, have anybody tried to use wireless charging with the S6 wrapped in a protective case? I read about materials and wireless charging and I read even 1 cm of plastic barrier should not be a problem, but just wanted to make sure if somebody has tried it already.
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Plastic / rubber should be transparent to wireless charging, and my S6 connects to the pad with even a 1/4" air gap.

Get one of these things
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2-X-Gel-Anti...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item3ce9f56ac8
I wouldn't ever use it in a car, but for your purposes it'll do well.
...I use them underneath my cutting boards haha.

It seams that it really happens, very weird though.
Look at the review below, at 16:05 while is wireless charging.

Speed_Br said:
It seams that it really happens, very weird though.
Look at the review below, at 16:05 while is wireless charging.
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Wow you have a good eye, but yeah at 16:10 you can see the USB port on the phone starts rotating away from the USB cord.

At the cost of a scratch to the bottom left of my S6 I can confirm that it will vibrate off of the charger even if it is placed in the centre of it. Its disappointing that Samsung hasn't tested the phone's wireless charging and picked up on this. I've contacted Samsung to see if anything can be done about it and I'll let you know if/when I get a reply.

AlexanderMorris said:
At the cost of a scratch to the bottom left of my S6 I can confirm that it will vibrate off of the charger even if it is placed in the centre of it. Its disappointing that Samsung hasn't tested the phone's wireless charging and picked up on this. I've contacted Samsung to see if anything can be done about it and I'll let you know if/when I get a reply.
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It doesn't vibrate off the PMA charger I am using

Is it an LG by any change? Have the same issue with mine, you can watch it rotate in real time. Kinda cool, sort of. lol

D15 said:
This. Just a thin rubber film should suffice.
By the way, have anybody tried to use wireless charging with the S6 wrapped in a protective case? I read about materials and wireless charging and I read even 1 cm of plastic barrier should not be a problem, but just wanted to make sure if somebody has tried it already.
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my slim armor with plastic+TPU charges with the pad perfectly fine

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The back comes off?

So, I dropped my phone. Noticed that around the volume button and then on the other side that the back was separated from the front. Thinking, oh crap, the back doesn't come off, I was already having nightmares about going to verizon. I pushed the back, back onto the frame and it snapped into place on both sides. I was too much of a wuss to try to remove it again but, I think the back actually comes off this phone and is just held on like all removable back phones, it just snaps into place. I have the ballistic nylon back.
ANyone know for sure?
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So, I dropped my phone. Noticed that around the volume button and then on the other side that the back was separated from the front. Thinking, oh crap, the back doesn't come off, I was already having nightmares about going to verizon. I pushed the back, back onto the frame and it snapped into place on both sides. I was too much of a wuss to try to remove it again but, I think the back actually comes off this phone and is just held on like all removable back phones, it just snaps into place. I have the ballistic nylon back.
ANyone know for sure?
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I watched the teardown video. The back is held down by clips I think, so you can actually pry it off if you have a shim to get into there.
Well yeah, if it can be put together it can be taken apart. What it comes down to is how easily it can be done without damaging the phone. iDevices have always been made without a removable back, but as far as I know all of them can be taken apart for servicing. I replaced the HDD in my 2nd or 3rd gen iPod like 5 times and the battery once before wising up and ditching that Apple crap (that was my first and last Apple product).
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A guitar pick has always worked great for me, Razrmaxx, & RazrmaxxHD. I haven't needed to yet on my ballistic 64, but the video shows it working like the past Moto's
Second that. guitar pick worked great!
I see that there are ballistic nylon backs being sold on eBay now. I wonder how long before the metallized Kevlar backs show up. It will be awesome to be able to switch them out.
I put the red volume key in the black plastic so it now it has a red accent. Also the M comes out on the ballistic nylon. I actually plan on removing the M, I'm putting in some sort of metal dish. Then using that does to attach to a magnetic car dock for wireless charging. yeah, I might end up taking this too far lol
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I put the red volume key in the black plastic so it now it has a red accent. Also the M comes out on the ballistic nylon. I actually plan on removing the M, I'm putting in some sort of metal dish. Then using that does to attach to a magnetic car dock for wireless charging. yeah, I might end up taking this too far lol
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Could you keep us up to date on your progress? I'd really like to make my own magnetic car mount as well. I had one with my Galaxy SIII using a Palm Touchstone. It was amazing.
JTH182 said:
Could you keep us up to date on your progress? I'd really like to make my own magnetic car mount as well. I had one with my Galaxy SIII using a Palm Touchstone. It was amazing.
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The camera picked up every flaw the eye cant see lol I took one of the LG car charging pads, a cheap $10 RadioShack car dock. Took the charging pad apart and put four magnets. One in each corner. then I took the cheap Doc I bought and cut the legs off of it and plastic welded them to the LG pad . Then I took the sticky part of the cheap dark and super glued it to the pad. It holds just fine without the little legs. But I like the extra support. Doesn't look too great without a phone on it. But once I put my phone on it all you see is the phone. looks like it's floating.
Edit. the back of the Droid turbo has metal in it. So its magnetic. If you put a magnet on the center and triggers the flip case. But keeping them off the side seems to be just fine
But the real question is... Can you access, remove, and replace the battery?
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But the real question is... Can you access, remove, and replace the battery?
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Yep, it doesn't look too difficult. There is a teardown video here: Motorola Droid Turbo XT1254 Disassembly / Tear Do…: http://youtu.be/l_AOQ6U2Zb0
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The camera picked up every flaw the eye cant see lol I took one of the LG car charging pads, a cheap $10 RadioShack car dock. Took the charging pad apart and put four magnets. One in each corner. then I took the cheap Doc I bought and cut the legs off of it and plastic welded them to the LG pad . Then I took the sticky part of the cheap dark and super glued it to the pad. It holds just fine without the little legs. But I like the extra support. Doesn't look too great without a phone on it. But once I put my phone on it all you see is the phone. looks like it's floating.
Edit. the back of the Droid turbo has metal in it. So its magnetic. If you put a magnet on the center and triggers the flip case. But keeping them off the side seems to be just fine
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Interesting. That blob in the middle is the sticky part of the cheap dock? Do the magnets hold the phone without that sticky stuff? Is it hard to line up the phone with the charging coil? Does it get a steady current to charge?
Also, would you be able to point me to the exact charging pad you used so I know it would work?
I may have myself a project, lol... I'm wondering if something like this would work with the Turbo:
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Interesting. That blob in the middle is the sticky part of the cheap dock? Do the magnets hold the phone without that sticky stuff? Is it hard to line up the phone with the charging coil? Does it get a steady current to charge?
Also, would you be able to point me to the exact charging pad you used so I know it would work?
I may have myself a project, lol... I'm wondering if something like this would work with the Turbo:
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Without the bloob it will hold. But not really strong. I'm going to revisit this project, I just needed the dock backup so I could go to work lol because I tried 2 hours and I like having somewhere to put my phone. Any qi charging pad will work with the Droid turbo. The one I have is the LG puck. Just make sure whatever you get it's designed for a car. 12 volts, not 110.
Probably next weekend or whenever I have the time I'm going to take off the back of the Droid turbo and put some metal in there, like grind down some razor blades to fit. One just below the M & 1 just above the droid logo. That will give it a much stronger hold that I can get rid of the blob and the legs. I just have a very strong fear of the phone falling off while driving and face planting into my shift knob lol.
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Yep, it doesn't look too difficult. There is a teardown video here: Motorola Droid Turbo XT1254 Disassembly / Tear Do…: http://youtu.be/l_AOQ6U2Zb0
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Wow. That was painful to watch. That guy sucks at life.
So, I re did it. Turned out pretty good
jal3223 said:
Yep, it doesn't look too difficult. There is a teardown video here: Motorola Droid Turbo XT1254 Disassembly / Tear Do…: http://youtu.be/l_AOQ6U2Zb0
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Ha. Your version of "not too difficult" definitely differs from mine. I suppose if your battery was absolutely dead and you had no other choice, but when you start talking about adhesive and heat guns thats a little outside of realm of a simple replacement.
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Ha. Your version of "not too difficult" definitely differs from mine. I suppose if your battery was absolutely dead and you had no other choice, but when you start talking about adhesive and heat guns thats a little outside of realm of a simple replacement.
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Oh then you definitely gotta google how to replace just the glass on The Droid Ultra/Maxx or any other phone for that matter... U'll get a definition of what difficult actually is! I personally did... And after seeing that everything else seems damn easy.... Replacing glass is so difficult that even Manufacturers don't prefer to do it!
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So, I re did it. Turned out pretty good
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How did you make that one? Does it really stay on there while you're driving? What magnets did you use? Did you put the metal inside the phone?
I bought some neodymium magnets, but I still don't think it will hold while driving. I haven't finished yet though. I also have a bad feeling it won't actually charge because the magnets are interfering with the charging coil.
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How did you make that one? Does it really stay on there while you're driving? What magnets did you use? Did you put the metal inside the phone?
I bought some neodymium magnets, but I still don't think it will hold while driving. I haven't finished yet though. I also have a bad feeling it won't actually charge because the magnets are interfering with the charging coil.
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Tonight or tomorrow I'll make a little video explaining when I did. Easier than trying to type it lol and easier to understand.
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Tonight or tomorrow I'll make a little video explaining when I did. Easier than trying to type it lol and easier to understand.
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Thanks! That would be awesome:good:

custom turbo magnetic wireless charging car dock

so, Ive wanted a magnetic car dock for a while. Airdock makes a nice one. but the airdock 2 is not available. at least last time i checked. So i decided to make one. this has been an on going project for about a month. the first one i made was quite simple. very much like the one on youtube. just 4 magnets placed in a LG charging pad. problem was, the charging would start and stop randomly. I assumed it had to do with the magnet locations. some how it was effecting the charging (considering Qi charging is magnetic)
back to the drawing board! and then project after project lol. I think i must have made 8 docks. all had issues and I was not satisfied. I even made one out of carbon fiber, or an attempt to! didnt turn out well.. then I went a bit out side of the box. so heres what i did
First, i had an extra Turbo battery cover. i plastic dipped that. my theory was plastic dip would work as a release agent for my next step. then I took an old iphone bumper case my wife had and used that as my frame.. alined 4 magnets next to the moto symbol (i put 2 small peaces of metal in that area in side the phone) then i used tap to cover all the gaps the case would have on the phone, and poured in a full tube of plastic weld epoxy. I had no clue what would happen but i was willing to try!
after everything cured it worked really well.. I was able to take the epoxy off the phone cover fairly easly (you can see it pulled off some of the vz and droid writing.. as well as the moto symbol)
now, i have a form that matches the turbo exactly.
the next step was just a mater of sanding and cutting off any of the over pour and any imperfections in the epoxy.
then i put in the wireless charging pad
next, i plastic dipped the front (being rubber it works really well as a non slip surface)
then i warped the outside in some auto chrome trim
and that was that! new charging dock for my car that fits like a glove! because it matches the turbos curves, it auto centers it self. and holds super tight! phone wont move at all... very happy with the out come.. let me know what you guys think! thanks
thats really sweet ill buy one ?
That looks sweet!!!
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Would love to see some links to the supplies you used. I've been wanting to make my own magnetic car dock.
Bad ass! I already tried to make a dock, but it doesn't charge, and the magnets don't hold that well. I don't have the patience (or cajones to open up my phone) to try this.
Im Saint said:
Would love to see some links to the supplies you used. I've been wanting to make my own magnetic car dock.
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Not really links I could use as everything i got was locally bought. Magnets from ace hardware. Cheap iPhone 4 case. Plastic dip and plastic weld epoxy made by jb weld. Got that stuff at pep boys. Just gotta get creative lol. Oh, and the small metal I put in the phone was from my Wifes ear rings =). Super thin metal. Earrings work great!
Wait... why does it look like it's Qi charging??? Did I miss that step?
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Wait... why does it look like it's Qi charging??? Did I miss that step?
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Guess so lol. There's a pic and I said "then I put in the wireless charging pad".
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Not really links I could use as everything i got was locally bought. Magnets from ace hardware. Cheap iPhone 4 case. Plastic dip and plastic weld epoxy made by jb weld. Got that stuff at pep boys. Just gotta get creative lol. Oh, and the small metal I put in the phone was from my Wifes ear rings =). Super thin metal. Earrings work great!
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Fair enough!
I guess what I really wanted to know was which wireless charging pad you had in there. Just a generic Qi charger?
Im Saint said:
Fair enough!
I guess what I really wanted to know was which wireless charging pad you had in there. Just a generic Qi charger?
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Oh of course.
http://www.shopandroid.com/lg-wcp-300-qi-wireless-charging-pad/5A233A18004.htm
That was just the first link I found. I got mine for like 20 bucks.
I guess I should add, I cut the back off a cheap car dock and glued it to the back of the wireless charging pad.
Just checking in - any issues with this long term? All sensors working? Does the compass work properly while on the stand?
How much would you say this cost in total? $50?
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How much would you say this cost in total? $50?
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Yeah. About that I'd say
Necro-posting...
When the phone back cover was open, did it look like there was enough room to install a metal ring, for use with current magnetic phone holders (Qi chargers)? I have to open the case to replace the battery and figured I might try a magnetic Qi mount as well (easier to rotate from portrait to landscape without a large plastic exo-frame). It's that, or use a thin cover and put the ring between the phone and the accessory cover (I have the ballistic nylon back).

The border acts like a magnet

I might have accidentally magnetized my Nexus 9... Pic will be up soon.
That's normal
For the sides to be magnetic
USBhost said:
That's normal
For the sides to be magnetic
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That's cool... Anyways... *sticks every USB I own ever onto the Nexus 9* *sticks OTG cable and charging cable* *sticks a magnet* *sticks a keychain* *sticks a stick*
Its supposed to be like that, so the covers you get for it are held closed, I have a supcase folio that stays closed this way.
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I've ran a few neodymium magnets by the N9 and nothing bad happen
I was freaked out when I picked up my N9 off the table and my wife's hair clips was attached. To it.
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I was freaked out when I picked up my N9 off the table and my wife's hair clips was attached. To it.
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Lol
It can be a little annoying... I learned that they absolutely will not stack straight because of the magnets, they all offset from the one below by half an inch or so.
Learned this after we got 4 of them in to work for testing/development. I was a little perplexed at first, then I took a back off and saw all the magnets.
Mine could really do with stronger magnets, my official 'magic' cover isn't so 'magic' :s It slides off pretty easily. It's not the cover itself either, it attaches pretty strongly to other ferrous materials so sadly it seems to be the tablet itself that's lacking.
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Mine could really do with stronger magnets, my official 'magic' cover isn't so 'magic' :s It slides off pretty easily. It's not the cover itself either, it attaches pretty strongly to other ferrous materials so sadly it seems to be the tablet itself that's lacking.
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I don't have the official magic cover. I just got the hotcool cheapo one and felt the same way. I just placed two neodymium magnets on the cover thinking i could use it to hold business cards and other important docs while in a pinch. Call it a mind trick since I don't know the property of magnets too well, but it appears the case holds on tighter when I did that.
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My Nexus 9 has a magnetic border too.It sticks to parts of my laptop , OTG converter , USB Flash Drive, screws , paper clips and anything metal. I thought it was something with mine but it seems to be normal (but annoying). How can we fix this
Mine is magnetic too
Life is poker, risk being happy
It's magnetic by design. The boarder on the Nexus 9 is magnetic to support how both the Magic Cover and official folio keyboard work with it.

New way for magnetic charging port to break

Typically the issue on our phones is that the magnetic port pulls out after a lot of use. I had this and I superglued that sucker back in. Now, I have a whole new issue. One of the little nubs with the metal contact completely came off! I seriously have no idea how they could have happened. It's hard to describe but I'll take a picture when I can to show this. The annoying thing is that I superglued this one in very well. I would have to seriously risk breaking more things to pry this one off to replace it! Despite no update to marshmallow (D6616) and these crazy build issues I still don't see a compelling new phone to replace this one -_-.
Pics. Initially, the little metal circle was gone. I scraped away the rest of the little black circle to expose the little bit of metal that is still sticking out. I can still use the magnetic charging port as long as I carefully attach it in a way that the little metal piece makes contact with the charger.
Please make a photo of your magnetic cable connector too
When the microphone of my z3 broke, the service changed all the frame of my mobile.
i was so happy, my old magnetic charging port was very worn out (almost like your picture)
I blame users using cheap magnetic cables bought from ebay and amazon because of this. Magnets can be super strong, strong, medium, and weak. Mine has been fine since owning the phone Dec 2014. I use the Sony magnetic dock and always charge on it. The only problem I have is that it needs a backbone to charge because DUE TO MY FAULT, when the phone dropped, it bent the trim area of the magnetic port.
People always need to point fingers at everyone besides themselves.
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Pics. Initially, the little metal circle was gone. I scraped away the rest of the little black circle to expose the little bit of metal that is still sticking out. I can still use the magnetic charging port as long as I carefully attach it in a way that the little metal piece makes contact with the charger.
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By the condition of your phone from the pics you posted I'm not surprised. I have 2 magnetic chargers and non have this issue. The magnets are relatively weak - just strong enough to hold the cable to th phone while moving it around - and I've not experienced any issues although my charging port doesn't look near as haggard as the ops.
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I use the magnector connector which is what initially caused my magnetic port to pull out. My magnetic port looks all jacked up because I superglued the port back in but got messy with the glue and had to scrape some off. Anyways despite how messed up my magnetic port looks, the rest of my phone is actually pretty much in new condition. I have had it in a case all its life and a glass screen protector.

Looking for an embedded magnetic wireless charging case+mount

Never got into wireless charging on my S7. Always had a magnetic mount on the vent with a metal plate between the phone and the case. Now that I'm hooked on wireless charging, I'm on a similar setup but with a wide ring magnet between phone and case so it doesn't interfere with wireless charging. My one issue is that when the phone is flat on a desk, it rocks just a little (and I like a thin case). So what I'm looking for is a thin case, with an embedded magnet (so it's a flat bottom surface) and where the magnet is in a configuration where it doesn't interfere with wireless charging (whether it's a wide ring, or a few magnet points spaced out, etc.) I've thought about digging into my case as a DIY but not there yet Pitaka MagCase looks like it would so the trick but it hasn't been released yet. Any out there that I'm just not finding?
Thanks!
And, this is on an S9 plus.
Can you post pics of your setup? I'm looking for a magnetic wireless car charger that holds up via the vent.
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thx for the tip.... now i want one too
https://www.ipitaka.com/collections/magcase-for-samsung-galaxy-s9
Search on Amazon for "Magnetic Wireless Car Charger, ELEGIANT Fast Wireless Charging Car Mount Phone Holder". Looks like it's now out of stock but there's dozens just like them. I went with something inexpensive to make sure it worked. And it did- fast charged on the mount as well as the Samsung official desktop wireless charger. Although the swivel ball joint on the vent mount was a little flimsy. I placed the magnetic ring such that the top of it was about 1/4" below the bottom of the fingerprint sensor (I spent a lot of time trying to figure out exactly where the coils in the phone were; you can take a good guess by knowing that the desktop Sammy wireless charger woks with both the phone standing upright as well as on it's side and that it's got two coils).
Even though the ring is very thin, it still adds a slight bulge in the middle and makes it "wobble" a bit. I don't have the right shop equipment to shave a circular channel on the inside of the case to place the magnetic ring
Found one made by Nillkin. Have to use their own charging mount (which makes perfect sense as it uses four small magnets at four corners of the mount). Reviews aren't great, it's standard (not fast) charging, and the I like my side buttons uncovered.
Xvida makes one as well (a little bulkier than the Pitaka) but S8 is the most recent they support as of now.
hey guys,
you might wanna hold off getting the pitaka magmount, I received info from pitaka that the s9+ position of the wireless charging coil of S9 therefore the position of the built-in metal plate is different from other cases, they are still testing there new wireless charging mount, it will come out later.
I will be getting a review unit of the case later and I will let you know how I feel about the case. cheers guys.
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hey guys,
you might wanna hold off getting the pitaka magmount, I received info from pitaka that the s9+ position of the wireless charging coil of S9 therefore the position of the built-in metal plate is different from other cases, they are still testing there new wireless charging mount, it will come out later.
I will be getting a review unit of the case later and I will let you know how I feel about the case. cheers guys.
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I have the iOttie magnetic mount/quick charger in my car.
It worked really well with my S8 and note 8.
I put the small metal ring inside the case on my S9+ and it was very finicky.
Sometimes it would only charge (not fast charge) and other times it wouldn't charge at all.
I found that by placing the ring up higher near the camera, it maintained position to quick charge the phone and hold it securely.
The qi coil in the S9+ seems to be a bit closer to the camera than the other devices I've used.
I hope this helps.
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Great- thanks- similar to my current setup- I'm just looking for a case where the ring is actually embedded in the case, so the back of the case is perfectly flat.
Looks like from another thread the S9+ MagCase has launched- not on Amazon yet but on the Pitaka site- would love to see a review to make sure it quick charges wirelessly (as opposed to not quick). Sounds like they had issues with magnet placement originally and that might affect it.
Nillkin makes one. It's on Amazon as well.
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Nillkin makes one. It's on Amazon as well.
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Yes- thank you- the Nillkin looks great- and a lot less expensive than the Pitaka- but the case has full edges that cover the buttons which I'm not a fan of.
texasmax said:
Yes- thank you- the Nillkin looks great- and a lot less expensive than the Pitaka- but the case has full edges that cover the buttons which I'm not a fan of.
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Gotcha, it's not bad.

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