After the Update - My thoughts - Fire TV General

I received the update on my Amazon TV a couple of hours ago.
My thoughts:
Kodi and all other third party apps WORK PERFECTLY.
I paired my Parrot Zik Bluetooth headphones. What I noticed is that there was a lug between the controllers moves and the click sound you usually get. When I started KODI, and streamed a movie or an episode, I had to adjust the sound offset to +1.175 secs in order for the sound to match the lips of the actors. This was also mentioned by other users that had installed a third party .apk settings file that could connect to other Bluetooth devices.
Having said that, I noticed something else. The lug of a second USB might cause a few problems if people are using a USB mouse/keyboard. I guess we could try pairing a Bluetooth keyboard but I haven't seen a Bluetooth airmouse. It remains to be seen.
Overall, I can say go ahead and upgrade

athosk said:
I received the update on my Amazon TV a couple of hours ago.
My thoughts:
Kodi and all other third party apps WORK PERFECTLY.
I paired my Parrot Zik Bluetooth headphones. What I noticed is that there was a lug between the controllers moves and the click sound you usually get. When I started KODI, and streamed a movie or an episode, I had to adjust the sound offset to +1.175 secs in order for the sound to match the lips of the actors. This was also mentioned by other users that had installed a third party .apk settings file that could connect to other Bluetooth devices.
Having said that, I noticed something else. The lug of a second USB might cause a few problems if people are using a USB mouse/keyboard. I guess we could try pairing a Bluetooth keyboard but I haven't seen a Bluetooth airmouse. It remains to be seen.
Overall, I can say go ahead and upgrade
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Thanks for the feedback hopefully my fire tv will get the update today and I can test these new features.

athosk said:
The lug of a second USB might cause a few problems if people are using a USB mouse/keyboard. I guess we could try pairing a Bluetooth keyboard but I haven't seen a Bluetooth airmouse. It remains to be seen.
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Have you tried a USB hub?

tech3475 said:
Have you tried a USB hub?
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Thought about that but didn't get the chance to do that..it will be too many parts hanging around it

athosk said:
Thought about that but didn't get the chance to do that..it will be too many parts hanging around it
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You might be able to use a USB extension cable to hide it somewhere or have a hub somewhere more preferable.

did a factory restore,many reboots , flash drives formatted to fat32. Any tips on how to get it to work? cheers
UPDATE: the update somehow broke my USB port does not work at all no mouse no nothing.

I have the Blueooth delay also with Headset but with Plesk, I don't have an option to adjust the delay

guessing there's no changes to surround support. haven't been pushed the update yet

Updates
I think that the devices from the US are the first ones to get the updates. I own a device from the US and one from the UK. The US received its update the day I posted the post. The other devices, including my friends' deveices which were also bought in the UK, have not received anything yet..

Further Findings
USB drives connected to the Fire TV are, according to Amazon, to be used for storing apps and games. This feature was added to the Fire TV so that you can store more apps than the internal 8GB storage allows. There is, however, a huge disappointing shortfall with this new feature. You can only move an app’s main files to USB storage. An app’s “data” files must remain on the Fire TV’s internal storage. Many popular large games like GTA: San Andreas and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic store the vast majority of the game’s files as “data”. This means these games essentially cannot be moved to USB storage.
To get an idea of how much of an app can be moved to USB storage, look at the app’s “Size” value listed on the app’s detail/product page. The amount listed is usually how much can be moved to USB storage. For example, GTA: San Andreas lists a size of 77.2MB, which means the majority of the game will remain on the Fire TV’s internal storage. NBA 2K15, on the other hand, lists a file size of 1.8GB so you can be pretty sure that most of the app can be moved to USB storage.
As for other uses of USB storage, Amazon explicitly states that “you cannot access any media that you side-loaded onto the USB device.” The good news is that Amazon is not going out of their way to block apps from accessing USB external storage. Apps like Kodi and VLC can play media stored on an attached external drive without any issues. Files stored on a USB drive attached to the Fire TV can be found under the directory: /storage/extUsb/ source: www.aftvnews.com

Further Findings
USB hubs work with the Fire TV and external USB storage. Since the Fire TV only has one USB port, you can use a USB hub to connect both a USB drive and other USB devices like a FLIRC, mice, and keyboards simultaneously. You cannot use a USB hub to mount two USB drives. The Fire TV will only mount the first USB drive it detects.
Both powered and unpowered USB hubs work with the Fire TV. Some powered USB hubs will cause the Fire TV to freeze on the white Amazon logo during boot up. This is due to the Fire TV detecting power coming into its USB port which makes the Fire TV think it’s plugged into a computer which causes it to enter fastboot mode. If your powered USB hub does this, then you will need to unplug or power down the powered USB hub every time you reboot your Fire TV and then plug it back in once the Fire TV has booted.
source: www.aftvnews.com

athosk said:
USB drives connected to the Fire TV are, according to Amazon, to be used for storing apps and games. This feature was added to the Fire TV so that you can store more apps than the internal 8GB storage allows. There is, however, a huge disappointing shortfall with this new feature. You can only move an app’s main files to USB storage. An app’s “data” files must remain on the Fire TV’s internal storage. Many popular large games like GTA: San Andreas and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic store the vast majority of the game’s files as “data”. This means these games essentially cannot be moved to USB storage.
To get an idea of how much of an app can be moved to USB storage, look at the app’s “Size” value listed on the app’s detail/product page. The amount listed is usually how much can be moved to USB storage. For example, GTA: San Andreas lists a size of 77.2MB, which means the majority of the game will remain on the Fire TV’s internal storage. NBA 2K15, on the other hand, lists a file size of 1.8GB so you can be pretty sure that most of the app can be moved to USB storage.
As for other uses of USB storage, Amazon explicitly states that “you cannot access any media that you side-loaded onto the USB device.” The good news is that Amazon is not going out of their way to block apps from accessing USB external storage. Apps like Kodi and VLC can play media stored on an attached external drive without any issues. Files stored on a USB drive attached to the Fire TV can be found under the directory: /storage/extUsb/
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athosk said:
USB hubs work with the Fire TV and external USB storage. Since the Fire TV only has one USB port, you can use a USB hub to connect both a USB drive and other USB devices like a FLIRC, mice, and keyboards simultaneously. You cannot use a USB hub to mount two USB drives. The Fire TV will only mount the first USB drive it detects.
Both powered and unpowered USB hubs work with the Fire TV. Some powered USB hubs will cause the Fire TV to freeze on the white Amazon logo during boot up. This is due to the Fire TV detecting power coming into its USB port which makes the Fire TV think it’s plugged into a computer which causes it to enter fastboot mode. If your powered USB hub does this, then you will need to unplug or power down the powered USB hub every time you reboot your Fire TV and then plug it back in once the Fire TV has booted.
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Why not just providing a link to AFTNews ?

AFTV NEWS
I did provide the link www.aftvnews.com in a previous post so i guessed my readers would know about it
I want to add this though.....I did try a USB hub and connected the MINIX air mouse and keyboard on it. Unfortunately no connection. So i am not so sure if the HUB will work as mentioned by AFTV news or which kind of HUB would be best to connect both the drive and the mouse

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Playing video files on USB thumb drive

Is it possible to have videos played directly (in Divx or any other compatible format) from a USB thumb drive connected to the GT10.1 via the addon USB accessory?
Thanks
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thumbs up for this question! Would like to know this, too!
The answer to your question is no... not directly. The only way to do it is to connect your tab to a computer, copy the file over, disconnect the tab, and play it from the local hard drive on the tab.
When I copied movies over, it took an .mp4 file and converted it to wmv on the tab.
I also noticed that when your tab is plugged into the computer, you can't do anything on the tab. If you do, it disconnects the tab from the computer.
Hope this helps.
After doing a bit more research, here's an update:
It looks like Samsung makes a usb adapter. I can't post links, but google "Galaxy Tab Adapter (USB)"
Yes, once the USB adapter is available you will be able to use thumb drives, portable hard drives, etc, to play movies, music...
Will you be able to transfer files back to the Thumb Drive once the USB adapter is available? Or will it only be able to download?
I assume we have no idea when Samsung will make said adapter available.
im.thatoneguy said:
Will you be able to transfer files back to the Thumb Drive once the USB adapter is available? Or will it only be able to download?
I assume we have no idea when Samsung will make said adapter available.
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It is (said to be ) usb host. I have used usb host before. literally it is 100% a usb drive. you can upload, download, read, edit, play, delete, any file that is attached to it.
And you can connect a mouse or keyboard too. Just think of it as a usb slot. If the adaptor is legitimate usb host then it should perform every of the above.
I'm also waiting too.
a usb drive should function the same way it does on your computer. you will be able to play files that are on it, copy files from it and load files onto it. it will act just like sd cards do now in android.
the adapter is available for order now, but I believe it's listed as "back order"
Has anyone else noticed that due to the design of the tab, if you have a usb drive plugged in and are using headphones, you won't be able to prop it up? They're on opposite sides, so one plug would always be blocked!
I decided this wasn't the biggest deal for me, but it's definitely an annoying design decision.
Hey guys, I'm sorry to bring this back up again almost 4 months later, but has anyone tried to use an external cd/dvd drive with the usb adapter? I'm wondering I could play a movie from the external cd/dvd drive and have it play on the tabet. Thanks.
99scooter said:
Hey guys, I'm sorry to bring this back up again almost 4 months later, but has anyone tried to use an external cd/dvd drive with the usb adapter? I'm wondering I could play a movie from the external cd/dvd drive and have it play on the tabet. Thanks.
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I haven't done it, but I think you would need an external power source to power the dvd drive. The USB does not supply enough power for that. Also, I think the USB hub for the Tab can only read FAT32 formatted drives, so I don't think it has the software to read directly from DVD, but I don't know.
Just play the from the USB device. How can this be a portable device if it has everything dangling from it...For that get a thin notebook.
It depends... USB can only provide about 500mA of current tops but with that tablet it probably even less, so your HDD would need external power supply.
Also, out of box, Galaxy Tab support only FAT32 as file system. So, you would need drivers/modules to support anything else.
I am using pershoot kernel with NTFS module, so I tested 16Gbyte jump drive formatted with NTFS. I was being able to mount it and read from it no problem. So, I see no problem to mount and read from HDD (granted you have to have external power supply for it).
If you are talking about CD/DVD drive then you would need driver/module for that and I did not see it available.

one stop thread for problems that most people encountered. Please share your solution

Instead of new comers squandering around looking for solutions to set up the nexus player for gaming and media streaming. Lets simplify things a bit to see what accessories to get and what software to use to get our nexus player to its maximum capability.
Lollirock 1.5 rom (OTG micro usb cable and a usb mouse or keyboard are required during first bootup. It will not detect nexus remote during first bootup)
Stick mount pro(Play Store) Make sure it's the pro version or else it won't work!-
- A must have for external storage. This app enables storage drives to mount into a specific location using symbolic link option which isn't included in the free version. By default, it will mount storage devices under sdcard/usb folder instead of usb:// mount location (apps like emulators or xbmc that uses file explore do not search to this location usb://)
- I have tested it on xbmc, my boy, fpse, and ppsspp.
Known issue: external storage formatted under ntfs will not mount properly. Files will not show up under mount folder.
I'm currently using exFAT format and it seem to work fine so far.
For those who uses stock Nexus Player rom, you have to download stick mount pro from a third party site since the license won't transfer(I'm assuming that you paid for it)
Sixaxis controller(Play Store)
- Can pair up to 2 controllers for two players games. There's also a setting to set dual shock 3 or 4 to run as native android controller, so you don't have to deal with mapping everything manually.
My suggestion
Accessories : Rii 8 wireless touchpad keyboard(Amazon) mini keypad with track pad and qwerty keyboard.
Logitech keyboard k700
Ps4 controller
Inateck card reading+Hub(Amazon) -
- It very important to choose the right otg micro usb cable because it can effect read/write speed for external storage drives, including low power consumption drives such as usb flash drives and sd cards. This hub can run with or without a secondary power source.
I thought something like a flash drive with a low power consumption didn't require a decent otg cable, but it does. I was testing a psp rom off my usb storage with a much simpler micro usb otg cable and the frame rate wasn't that great also the loading time. Transfer files were also very slow. So keep that in mind, make sure to get a decent micro usb otg hub or card reader. At least get one that you can supply power to from an outlet.
For those who are looking to run Amazon prime video, download Kodi (xbmc) and Amazon prime video add-on zip.
-Amazon instant video app is crappy on android to begin with compare to IOS version which has a more user friendly UI similar to Netflix. Kodi improves that with cover arts and tv-friendly user interface.
I couldn't get sixaxis to pair my stupid ps3 controls I don't know what I did wrong...
Sent from my Nexus 6
trvbone said:
I couldn't get sixaxis to pair my stupid ps3 controls I don't know what I did wrong...
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Have you used sixaxis before? I'm just wondering., so I can help you figure out the issue.
I have but I think the problem is I didn't see a Bluetooth address when I set it up on the Nexus player maybe I have to fix the zoom setting in the overscan setting on my Nexus player to see it
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Connect Multiple external Hard Drives ?

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if we can connect multiple external HDD. I read that the shield tv can only recognize one connected at once?
I tried with xplore to connect 2 external HDD and it doesn't show my 2 HDD , only the last one connected. :/
Am i missing something?
Thank you.
As far as I know the Shield should be able to recognize multiple external drives (they are named and tagged uniquely). For curiosity sake; Are you using the 2017 version? Rooted? Are they both attached directly to the Shield or are you using a (powered) USB hub?
Radnu said:
As far as I know the Shield should be able to recognize multiple external drives (they are named and tagged uniquely). For curiosity sake; Are you using the 2017 version? Rooted? Are they both attached directly to the Shield or are you using a (powered) USB hub?
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Thanks for your answer !
Yes i'm using the 2017 pro version non rooted and both HDD are directly plugged into the shield (no hub) .
Do you use an other file manager to see two external drives connected at the same time? both HDDs work well with Xplore but only when one is connected.
Platinum1986 said:
Thanks for your answer !
Yes i'm using the 2017 pro version non rooted and both HDD are directly plugged into the shield (no hub) .
Do you use an other file manager to see two external drives connected at the same time? both HDDs work well with Xplore but only when one is connected.
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It looks like I have to get back at my previous statement. Turns out that what I thought was general Android-practice is actually a feature of the roms I use (on other devices). On top of that I guess my own current situation is slightly different than yours; while I do have both a thumbdrive and a HDD attached I have adopted the thumbdrive, so it's not counted as an external drive. If I open Xplore I can therefore see both loaded.
Since I feel a bit like an arse I did some digging to see if there is anything you could do to hook up both drives. Turns out there's more people that have run into this here including a very descriptive solution should you have 2 identical HDD's. Otherwise, below a list of possible solutions;
If you are rooted, or willing to do so.
There is an app called "StickMount" by Chainfire which basically allows you to hook up multiple external drives and even symlink them. The catch is; I am not able to test this since myself I'm not willing to root my Shield 2017 just yet.
If you aren't rooted.
There are a few things you could do.
1] The solution I went for myself; buy one big USB 3.0 drive (I went for a 5TB one) and transfer all your stuff.
2] You could choose to adopt one of the drives as internal storage. There are some glaring downsides to this though; you can no longer attach that drive to other devices, it will at first wipe the drive and if its not a fast HDD it is going to lag your Shield down. Also, since your Pro already *is* 500GB and you would basically swap that space for one of your HDDs you'd have to consider whether or not it is worth the effort.
3] A somewhat farfetched solution; should you happen to have a modem that supports hosting a HDD as as NAS, you could use that to hook it up remotely. It's not as fast, but technically it is a solution.

Why the All New HDR 4K Fire TV 3 might not be your best option.

Hi All,
I would be interested to find out how you feel about certain omissions in the latest rendition of the AF TV.
There is no doubt that the FTV3 packs a punch and will stack up well against the competition at an extremely competitive price.....however when looking at the finer details there are some concerns.
* The FTV essentially hangs off the HDMI port of your TV, this in my opinion could add unnecessary stress on your HDMI port therefore an extender will need to be purchased.
*There is no room for expandable memory - according to the spec sheet there is a surprisingly only 8 Gigs of internal memory - which will probably leave you with 5 Gigs available after 'bloatware' is taken into consideration.
*The only other port this unit has besides HDMI is a micro USB port used only for charging - no Optical Out, Micro SD for expandable memory, no USB for say a wireless keyboard/air mouse, no Ethernet Port - of course you can get this as an optional purchase :/
Simply put If you intend on using your Fire TV for Assigned applications and services only then this may not concern you too much, for myself this leaves me with a bitter taste, I understand they have taken cost saving into consideration but at what 'cost'
I'm certain the existing Fire TVs will be discontinued momentarily which is why i went out immediately after the announcement and picked up a new Second Gen.
What are your thoughts?
Agreed. But I can hardly tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, and I have no reason to pursue 4K or HDR with any device.
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I am not sure it does not have USB support. The Ethernet adapter uses the charging port so it obviously is not charging only. I will certainly plug in a USB hub when it arrives to see what happens.
I'll have two rooted Gen 1 FireTV boxes for sale if anyone needs them. If not they are going on eBay. The Gen 3's will be good enough for what I use them for. As long as they allow installation of apks.
Perhaps a micro USB OTG cable could be plugged into that USB port and expand storage using a flash drive?
No - I've tried to plug a Y cable into the Fire TV 3 micro USB port and attached a flash drive - the Fire TV doesn't detect it and none of the other programmes such as Archos Player can find files on the flash drive either, the only way to access files on the flash drive is with ES file explorer or something similar. Have also tried to install Google Play and Google Music on the Fire TV 3 but to no avail.

android app that works on android auto and also shows external (usb on the go) storag

Hi there. i got my new kia picanto. and am trying to run things smoothly. because there is only one usb port on the car, ill have to connect the phone via usb cable on it. so since i will also need an ssd for my flac music, ill put a usb hub on the usb port of my phone. on the hub ill run a cable connecting tha phone to my car and another cable to run the phone to my ssd.
(i am waiting to receive the hub i ordered, sjould be soon with me.)
i know that not all apps appear on android auto. (and i also need my phone to be rooted to show apps not installed through play store).
Problem is this
i have tested many apps that support android auto. like pulsar, neutron, black player, jetaudio shuttle etc etc. i have installed pro versions.
None of these, supports usb on the go for mobile. it shows only files in the internal storage of phone. The only player i have seen that shows files stored on external storage (ssd) is vlc.
But i am looking for a more elegant player.foobar would be awesome as it supports external storage files, but it is not android auto compatible.
Am i stuck with vlc? any other options?
ps. my phone is new, i need to wait 140 hours before xiaomi lets me root it. and i have to wait for tyhe hub to arrive to test how well hub will work with mobile being connected to car and to ssd at the same time. fortunately it will work. if it does it is a game changer for me. because ssd directly to usb of the car supports only flac files up to 48khz. if ssd is connected to phone, it supports 24bit 192 khz. (xiaomi mi note 10 pro).
thanks for any suggestions. cheers
porotikos said:
Hi there. i got my new kia picanto. and am trying to run things smoothly. because there is only one usb port on the car, ill have to connect the phone via usb cable on it. so since i will also need an ssd for my flac music, ill put a usb hub on the usb port of my phone. on the hub ill run a cable connecting tha phone to my car and another cable to run the phone to my ssd.
(i am waiting to receive the hub i ordered, sjould be soon with me.)
i know that not all apps appear on android auto. (and i also need my phone to be rooted to show apps not installed through play store).
Problem is this
i have tested many apps that support android auto. like pulsar, neutron, black player, jetaudio shuttle etc etc. i have installed pro versions.
None of these, supports usb on the go for mobile. it shows only files in the internal storage of phone. The only player i have seen that shows files stored on external storage (ssd) is vlc.
But i am looking for a more elegant player.foobar would be awesome as it supports external storage files, but it is not android auto compatible.
Am i stuck with vlc? any other options?
ps. my phone is new, i need to wait 140 hours before xiaomi lets me root it. and i have to wait for tyhe hub to arrive to test how well hub will work with mobile being connected to car and to ssd at the same time. fortunately it will work. if it does it is a game changer for me. because ssd directly to usb of the car supports only flac files up to 48khz. if ssd is connected to phone, it supports 24bit 192 khz. (xiaomi mi note 10 pro).
thanks for any suggestions. cheers
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Buy a Mini USB hub to give you additional USB ports as I did in my center arm rest console.
sandpita said:
Buy a Mini USB hub to give you additional USB ports as I did in my center arm rest console.
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The car USB won't work with a hub unfortunately. It's been tested. But if phone can recognise it, it will be a good enough solution

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