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Without opening the box how can i tell if this Rogers HTC Magic can be rooted or not?
The reason i ask is because some of the newest ones already have the new updated firmware applied to them (or so my friend has told me).
Does anyone think this is the case or not?
I think the new ones have a Magic+! Not sure though
What makes you think it's some of the newest ones? I'm pretty sure ALL of them have the updated firmware by now
im pretty sure you can't tell by the box (almost positive).... best thing to do is ask how long the store has had it in stock..
if they had it from early january or from 2009 then it will not have the newest update and can be rooted... if its after mid january then it a good bet it will have the non rootable update..
thanks i will ask and find out.
KAwAtA said:
I think the new ones have a Magic+! Not sure though
What makes you think it's some of the newest ones? I'm pretty sure ALL of them have the updated firmware by now
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Do you mean Magic + on the box? This one says htc magic there is no +.
digitaljeff said:
im pretty sure you can't tell by the box (almost positive).... best thing to do is ask how long the store has had it in stock..
if they had it from early january or from 2009 then it will not have the newest update and can be rooted... if its after mid january then it a good bet it will have the non rootable update..
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If it already has the update then would it be a good bet that it can NEVER be rooted?
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If it already has the update then would it be a good bet that it can NEVER be rooted?
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... as of now it cannot be rooted, that isnt to say that i never will be rooted. once the 2.1 update comes out there may be a way to root again, but only time will tell... my recommendation is to buy a used one that is already rooted, or one that someone never did the update on if you really want root now..
thanks. ignorant though.
what me being ignorant? was just trying to help..
not you but Rogers, it looks like the one i have is rootable so not so ignorant at all!
awesome bud, glad to hear! welcome to the party that is custom roms. : D
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ya there is no Magic+ as kawata said.. dont worry about that
... as of now it cannot be rooted, that isnt to say that i never will be rooted. once the 2.1 update comes out there may be a way to root again, but only time will tell... my recommendation is to buy a used one that is already rooted, or one that someone never did the update on if you really want root now..
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What makes you think there _will_ be an update to 2.1?
And if there is one, what makes you think it might be rootable?
rogers have said there will be a 2.1 update. and i dont know if it can be rooted, no one does..we have to wait and see
Did Rogers explicitly promise to update the magic? I couldn't find any source for that. As for HTC, they only mention they will have an update for the Hero - nothing about the Magic.
Sent from my HTC Magic using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
just google rogers magic 2.1 .. yes its comming.. that is the reason why they offered the free upgrade to magic from dream as the dream was not getting the update..
it is comming, it is promised and it is known...
Yeah you're right. A statement from the source is here:
www.htc.com/us/support/magic-rogers/help/system-and-upgrade
OTOH my carrier has made it known that it will not be offering any update beyond 1.5 for the magic.
But back on topic, if HTC has been able to cook an unrootable update at least once, they will keep it this way with further updates too. I'm willing to bet the future update will do nothing to help those who would rather run custom roms, as opposed to those who will be content with the official 2.1 release.
YAY MY STORY WAS POSTED TO ANDROID GUYS!!!
UPDATED: So I had to rush home after class and give everyone that definate answer that they long. This was in my email as I finally got a STRAIGHT answer from Google to the question
"Will the people that did the manual update to Froyo still receive the OTA, and did it void the warrenty? Can I get a straight Answer?"
Hi,
The answer is yes and no, respectively. When 2.2 (Froyo) is sent via OTA, everybody will get it, including those who have already manually updated to Froyo. No, your warranty is not voided by manually updating to Froyo. But we do recommend waiting for the OTA if you're still on 2.1 / Eclair.
Cheers,
Ben
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Origonal Post:
I found some evidence that supports, all manual user will get the OTA, even if you updated manually.
Hi all,
Thanks for the responses!
Just wanted to give a heads up that the build floating around is not the official Froyo release. You will get an automatic notification when we OTA the build, no need to manually download it. You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat...but I'd highly recommend waiting for our official release
@Bhushan4181: You will get the OTA update as long as you are connected to the internet and can communicate with Google servers.
We are striving hard to OTA the build to you ASAP, thanks for your patience!
Gaurav.
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From what I am TOLD as long as your manual update came from GOOGLE than it is still a LEGIT and offical update, just not the final, therefor you HAVE NOT voided your warrenty, and will most likely get the OTA so don't panic
P.S Those who did the manual update(me included) I would not worry about trying to roll back to 2.1. They sent out a test build via ota to testers, and when the final build comes i'm sure EVERYONE will get the OTA as it will have a different signature and what-not. How else would they get the final build to the testers?
Beautiful. Only thing missing now is a release date :|
Good find, I think its a no brainer but confirmation is good for some folks that were worried.
yeah good to know....
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Good find, I think its a no brainer but confirmation is good for some folks that were worried.
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Ya even I was a little tweaked. Not saying we wouldn't be able to just flash it anyhow even if you are NON root. But there was alot of mixed answers not only here but all over the net, and some people were freaking out
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Beautiful. Only thing missing now is a release date :|
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It appears, according to the quote ' We are striving hard to OTA the build to you ASAP, thanks for your patience!' that the build is complete and it may only be the OTA to be sorted.
I hope so anyway
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Let's take a look at that again:
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Just wanted to point that out
There is no question that there must be a newer version of froyo thats coming out. I say that because every forum I visit on this site (and other sites) have people complaining that this and that doesn't work (anymore).
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"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Let's take a look at that again:
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Just wanted to point that out
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I knew there would be at least one person that would point something out to try to kill the post cause they didn't find it first. Obviously it will be newer. The file that was MANUALLY downloaded was available to the media and what not, so what, they are never gonna get the final OTA. Its common sense. And like I siad even if by what slim chance you don't get the OTA, you will be able to push it manually.
Way to try to kill a post
BTW...
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Paul22000 said:
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Let's take a look at that again:
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Just wanted to point that out
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lol nice one ...
I dont find any good reason to give/update the press or the "preview phones" some unfinished or still bugged version of 2.2
For what ? so that they review it (Froyo) and write down all the bad or not working things ... it makes no sense , at least for me ...
pvillasuso said:
lol nice one ...
I dont find any good reason to give/update the press or the "preview phones" some unfinished or still bugged version of 2.2
For what ? so that they review it (Froyo) and write down all the bad or not working things ... it makes no sense , at least for me ...
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BINGO..and what when they find the mistakes...NOT FIX IT...haha, that exactly what I was saying
what about those who installed the OTA manually and then installed the custom recovery image? will they still be able to get the new OTA?
pvillasuso said:
lol nice one ...
I dont find any good reason to give/update the press or the "preview phones" some unfinished or still bugged version of 2.2
For what ? so that they review it (Froyo) and write down all the bad or not working things ... it makes no sense , at least for me ...
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I don't claim to know what happened, but I'm damn sure there is more to all of this.
I cannot believe the degree to which Google has fumbled this Froyo release. They let us all think we might get it at I/O and look where we are now.....another week later...all anyone has gotten is a broken version.
I said it before and I'll say it again: Mickey Mouse time in Mountain View
nice find!
did anyone read this?
maybe we don't have the offical release... yet...
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=13a3e39bb5ce4e13&hl=en
Since I'm still semi new to Android, you miss out on OTA updates if you're rooted right? Does that also mean you miss out if your bootloader is unlocked?
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what about those who installed the OTA manually and then installed the custom recovery image? will they still be able to get the new OTA?
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I am not sure. I didn't think you could install custom recovery image without root
darkjedi said:
Since I'm still semi new to Android, you miss out on OTA updates if you're rooted right? Does that also mean you miss out if your bootloader is unlocked?
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That would prolly be answered if you do a search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5723511
Mod Edit: No need to flame the user.
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There is no question that there must be a newer version of froyo thats coming out. I say that because every forum I visit on this site (and other sites) have people complaining that this and that doesn't work (anymore).
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And how many of those things are 3rd party apps that still need to be updated for 2.2 compatibility?
Dude hes got a point. You posted something that had Nothing to do with the topic at hand. We all already knew the info you posted. Thats what the whole thread was about.
GPe owners rejoice!
Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-p...p-google-play-edition-devices-early-next-week
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GPe owners rejoice!
Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-p...p-google-play-edition-devices-early-next-week
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Thanks for the info
but:
There is already a sticky thread in "One General" for updates discussions.
The purpose of this thread is to provide a singular location to talk about all updates for all regions. There is no need to create a new thread for every update for every region. Just discuss it here in this thread
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and btw someone already posted it in that thread
Hi everyone my HTC one m7 was stock ROM sense 6 then I change it to cm11, Does google edition support on my phone or only HTC one m7 google edition? I want to have a taste of lollipop.
shadowx141 said:
Hi everyone my HTC one m7 was stock ROM sense 6 then I change it to cm11, Does google edition support on my phone or only HTC one m7 google edition? I want to have a taste of lollipop.
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Just changing your Rom from sense to CM will not enable you to get the lollipop ota.... NOT even flashing a gpe Rom will do that... U have to actually do the full GPE conversion to be able to do that.
You have full instruction on how to do that?
shadowx141 said:
You have full instruction on how to do that?
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There's a thread in Dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358781
I might get gpe updates for this without manually changing it? Because I'm waiting for android Lollipop.
You won't get the update unless you're running stock gpe. I'm sure someone around here will make a rom of it for us tho.
Im currently running 'GPE and waiting for the OTA. If i can get my hands on it, i´ll upload it, but i think
somebody will be faster due the way of getting chosen for the update in the first days.
There will most likely be a rom built from source before the OTA is out. That has been the way this update has gone. The source is uploaded first before the OTA is pushed. HEck the nexus 4 had the source and img files uploaded for almost 2 days before the OTA was pushed out.
zelendel said:
There will most likely be a rom built from source before the OTA is out. That has been the way this update has gone. The source is uploaded first before the OTA is pushed. HEck the nexus 4 had the source and img files uploaded for almost 2 days before the OTA was pushed out.
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Yup! I'm sitting back, quietly, patiently waiting. I know the masters around here will make it happen for us. No need to go to extremes.
LāvLab / HostileSlothRecords
See you guys next week.
Sent from my Nexus 7
It begins!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc...lollipop-unofficial-cm12-android-5-0-t2943826
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It begins!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc...lollipop-unofficial-cm12-android-5-0-t2943826
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haha, yep i already got that, battery consumption seems to be a bit high though. However, Lollipop is awesome, totally worth it.
Can't wait to see Sinless Rom bump to Lollipop.
Those who are using Indian soak test before and now using official release in India.... Do you notice any changes?
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Soak Testers didn't get the final OTA and will not get it. Reason is, the final OTA rolled out today is the same one soak testers got. They just got it a little early. You can see in the screenshots that everything under About Phone is same in soak test version and final version.
So does this in theory then mean that those of us who installed the captured soak test from the other thread will not need to use any other captures in the future and be able to use the ota update just fine without any chances of bricks etc
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So does this in theory then mean that those of us who installed the captured soak test from the other thread will not need to use any other captures in the future and be able to use the ota update just fine without any chances of bricks etc
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Correct. It is like we got the final OTA a little early.
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Correct. It is like we got the final OTA a little early.
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Cool so we won't have any worries about our phones bricking if we do an ota as is then I guess? Then that puts me at ease of mind.
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Cool so we won't have any worries about our phones bricking if we do an ota as is then I guess? Then that puts me at ease of mind.
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What do you mean by "we do an ota as is"?
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What do you mean by "we do an ota as is"?
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I mean we'll be able to download ota's without worries of getting our phones bricked because of it being from soak. I remember reading the other day someone was talking about how if we want to be able to use ota we'd have to use a stable capture first in order to be able to use ota. It seems that won't be an issue though since soak and stable are the same with just different release dates so we shouldn't have to worry about that right? Sorry for being silly here. I'm not exactly an ape man when it comes to tech but I'm not feeling the need to fiddle around with roms and bootloaders on this phone when I shouldn't really need to
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I mean we'll be able to download ota's without worries of getting our phones bricked because of it being from soak. I remember reading the other day someone was talking about how if we want to be able to use ota we'd have to use a stable capture first in order to be able to use ota. It seems that won't be an issue though since soak and stable are the same with just different release dates so we shouldn't have to worry about that right? Sorry for being silly here. I'm not exactly an ape man when it comes to tech but I'm not feeling the need to fiddle around with roms and bootloaders on this phone when I shouldn't really need to
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Well, it was me who said that the other day. That time the official update hadn't rolled out and we thought it would be a newer system version. But, now that it's released; we now know that it is the exact same OTA, so no problems for future updates either. It's like we never installed soak.
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Well, it was me who said that the other day. That time the official update hadn't rolled out and we thought it would be a newer system version. But, now that it's released; we now know that it is the exact same OTA, so no problems for future updates either. It's like we never installed soak.
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Yea i suspected something like that was going on when I saw that new thread about the stable and people were saying everything's exactly the same but just wanted some sort of confirmation. Now the only thing that I don't know if it'll affect anything in the future is that my build number on 4.4.4 was kxb now it's lxb (unless k stands for kitkat and l for lolipop lol. dunno) but i don't think it would be a problem since the system version has only the numbers changed and everything else is as it was on kitkat. Seems like the indian release works on european xt1068's as well contrary to what I read some people were saying but I guess it depends on some things...
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Yea i suspected something like that was going on when I saw that new thread about the stable and people were saying everything's exactly the same but just wanted some sort of confirmation. Now the only thing that I don't know if it'll affect anything in the future is that my build number on 4.4.4 was kxb now it's lxb (unless k stands for kitkat and l for lolipop lol. dunno) but i don't think it would be a problem since the system version has only the numbers changed and everything else is as it was on kitkat. Seems like the indian release works on european xt1068's as well contrary to what I read some people were saying but I guess it depends on some things...
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Funny, but you're right. The Build number on KitKat was "KXB21.85-23" on mine, but now it's "LXB22.46-28".
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Funny, but you're right. The Build number on KitKat was "KXB21.85-23" on mine, but now it's "LXB22.46-28".
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Well that pretty much solved all questions I had regarding lolipop on my moto g. Now the only mystery that remains is if the indian update works just fine when you install it on a eu moto g (well you need to manually install from recovery doe doesn't detect it in the ota screen) why is the eu xt1068's update nowhere to be talked about. All I've seen is india brazil and so on but eu is so silent that even babies can sleep
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Well that pretty much solved all questions I had regarding lolipop on my moto g. Now the only mystery that remains is if the indian update works just fine when you install it on a eu moto g (well you need to manually install from recovery doe doesn't detect it in the ota screen) why is the eu xt1068's update nowhere to be talked about. All I've seen is india brazil and so on but eu is so silent that even babies can sleep
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That´s a mystery for sure!
The only difference between the indian and the european XT1068 is the fact, that the indian version has 16 gb of memory,european model has 8gb.
But there must be something more that differs! In europe even a soaktest is rumored,surveys were sent,so everthing looks like we have to wait in europe for a few more days/weeks.
But why? In another thread I considered that Motorola is afraid of being taken to court or something by european users if something doesn´t work right. European laws are tough. Isn´t that a bit far out?
Or are there any technical differences between these models which are barely known?
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That´s a mystery for sure!
The only difference between the indian and the european XT1068 is the fact, that the indian version has 16 gb of memory,european model has 8gb.
But there must be something more that differs! In europe even a soaktest is rumored,surveys were sent,so everthing looks like we have to wait in europe for a few more days/weeks.
But why? In another thread I considered that Motorola is afraid of being taken to court or something by european users if something doesn´t work right. European laws are tough. Isn´t that a bit far out?
Or are there any technical differences between these models which are barely known?
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Aside from the ram I highly doubt there's any real difference since when I got mine in the first few days of fiddling around it had the hindi, korean and pinyin keyboards which i disabled so I don't think that would be the case....I mean why would most eu phones need these inputs from the get go. As far as laws go I can't really see much reasoning there either since it's a 130-50eu phone so they can't really have much to complain and unless it somehow magically bricks the device I doubt there would be many if any at all issues...Dunno doe. I'm not motorola so i have no idea what's going on through their heads but it's just kinda silly to me considering that everything's running fine on mine at least without any factory resets or anything....could be just me doe. On another note I think one of my little gripes about lollipop is that it doesn't hide the signal bar for my secondary sim when it's inactive and just shows it. Is this just for me or does everyone have that cuz I didn't pay attention to that on screenshots the last few days
Did some one backed up latest Indian Lollipop rolled on 23 Jan in TWRP in recovery mode and uploaded somewhere? Please share.
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Did some one backed up latest Indian Lollipop rolled on 23 Jan in TWRP in recovery mode and uploaded somewhere? Please share.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/twrp-twrp-backup-t3002426
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/twrp-twrp-backup-t3002426
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The link is old version uploaded on 14 January. I am asking about 23 January version with new Baseband ver 1032.3105
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The link is old version uploaded on 14 January. I am asking about 23 January version with new Baseband ver 1032.3105
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The 14th Jan one does have 1032.3105.
EDIT: Looking at a screenshot in that thread, it doesn't have the above mentioned version.
Weird though, I have installed the same version, but using a .zip captured by one soak tester. How could the version be different, when the update is same?
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The 14th Jan one does have 1032.3105.
EDIT: Looking at a screenshot in that thread, it doesn't have the above mentioned version.
Weird though, I have installed the same version, but using a .zip captured by one soak tester. How could the version be different, when the update is same?
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Yes, weird but there is reason. MD5 of old link and new capture matched perfect. Update in link by you and new both are same. Looks like Motorola fooled everyone and rolled same update again.
Anyways! Can anyone share TWRP backup of this version?
some apps bugs ..
Some apps like fifa 15 ut and some others are not supported for locked device and while installing from play store it showed error 505.
Stop making such threads...use the search option instead.
Does anyone have a reasonable explanation as to why one isnt getting certain updates?
The only available update I have is the December 2017 one, but afaik that one is riddled with bugs, and I don't rly feel like risking it. The January never popped up, yet alone february and march one. I've tried all those possible "tricks" with Google Services, from data clean up, signing up for the beta program, factory reset; nothing worked.
I've been told by the support to wait for the batches to arrive; 3 times now.. On the Mi Forums I've been told to sacrifice goats to Chthulu.
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
Download and flash the fastboot ROM by Mi Flash Tool.
Zoldannah said:
On the Mi Forums I've been told to sacrifice goats to Chthulu.
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
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LOL! Well, did you do it?
You can try the miflashtool method.
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LOL! Well, did you do it?
You can try the miflashtool method.
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An entire stock. Did not work ??*
I've never done flashing before, I'm nutorious for ****ing things up. Why can't I just get the OTA the way it's mean to be received ffs
Zoldannah said:
An entire stock. Did not work ??*
I've never done flashing before, I'm nutorious for ****ing things up. Why can't I just get the OTA the way it's mean to be received ffs
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You are probably on nougat. You need to update to the december Version (oreo preparation) and then you can update to march from there.
The OTA updates are incremental updates from a specific firmware version so you have to go through the sequence of all the updates. You can't just jump over several in one go.
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The OTA updates are incremental updates from a specific firmware version so you have to go through the sequence of all the updates. You can't just jump over several in one go.
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I've seen ppl saying they've got both dec + jan simultaneously.. But I guess this explains it; Thanks babes!
Well, can I ask why are you so special ??
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Well, can I ask why are you so special ??
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Special in a sense of being mentally challenged; self degradation. Don't worry, I'm not being condescending ?